Top 10 Programs for the Decade

[Saint3333]

Slow time around here. What are the top ten programs for the decade, 2000-2008:

1. ASU - 90 wins, 3 NCs, 3 Finals, 4 Semifinal apperances, 7 playoff appearances
2. Montana - 105 wins, 1 NC, 4 Finals, 5 Semifinal apperances, 9 playoff appearances
3. GSU - 76 wins, 1 NC, 1 Final, 3 Semifinal apperances, 5 playoff appearances
4. Delaware - 72 wins, 1 NC, 2 Finals, 3 Semifinal apperances, 4 playoff appearances
5. UNI - 82 wins, 1 Final, 3 Semifinal apperances, 5 playoff appearances
6. WKU (7 seasons) - 61 wins, 1 NC, 1 Final, 1 Semifinal apperance, 5 playoff appearances
7. JMU - 67 wins, 1 NC, 1 Final, 2 Semifinal apperances, 4 playoff appearances
8. Furman - 77 wins, 1 Final 1, 2 Semifinal apperances, 6 playoff appearances
9. McNeese - 73 wins, 1 Final, 1 Semifinal apperances, 6 playoff appearances
10. Richmond - 61 wins, 1 NC, 1 Final, 2 Semifinal apperances, 4 playoff appearances

Honorable Mention:

UMass - 71 wins, 1 Final, 1 Semifinal apperance, 3 playoff appearances &

Wofford - 71 wins, 1 Semifinal apperance, 3 playoff appearances

Surprises: How well GSU still stacks up for the decade and the low number of wins from Richmond, they've really turned that program around.

[Redwyn]

Slow time around here. What are the top ten programs for the decade, 2000-2008:

1. ASU - 90 wins, 3 NCs, 3 Finals, 4 Semifinal apperances, 7 playoff appearances
2. Montana - 105 wins, 1 NC, 4 Finals, 5 Semifinal apperances, 9 playoff appearances
3. GSU - 76 wins, 1 NC, 1 Final, 3 Semifinal apperances, 5 playoff appearances
4. Delaware - 72 wins, 1 NC, 2 Finals, 3 Semifinal apperances, 4 playoff appearances
5. UNI - 82 wins, 1 Final, 3 Semifinal apperances, 5 playoff appearances
6. WKU (7 seasons) - 61 wins, 1 NC, 1 Final, 1 Semifinal apperance, 5 playoff appearances
7. JMU - 67 wins, 1 NC, 1 Final, 2 Semifinal apperances, 4 playoff appearances
8. Furman - 77 wins, 1 Final 1, 2 Semifinal apperances, 6 playoff appearances
9. McNeese - 73 wins, 1 Final, 1 Semifinal apperances, 6 playoff appearances
10. Richmond - 61 wins, 1 NC, 1 Final, 2 Semifinal apperances, 4 playoff appearances

Honorable Mention:

UMass - 71 wins, 1 Final, 1 Semifinal apperance, 3 playoff appearances &

Wofford - 71 wins, 1 Semifinal apperance, 3 playoff appearances

Surprises: How well GSU still stacks up for the decade and the low number of wins from Richmond, they've really turned that program around.

Nice ranking table. Quick question, how did you weigh conferences? Or were absolutes (playoff appearances regardless of at large vs. conference) and wins the basic criteria?

[smallcollegefbfan]

Slow time around here. What are the top ten programs for the decade, 2000-2008:

1. ASU - 90 wins, 3 NCs, 3 Finals, 4 Semifinal apperances, 7 playoff appearances
2. Montana - 105 wins, 1 NC, 4 Finals, 5 Semifinal apperances, 9 playoff appearances
3. GSU - 76 wins, 1 NC, 1 Final, 3 Semifinal apperances, 5 playoff appearances
4. Delaware - 72 wins, 1 NC, 2 Finals, 3 Semifinal apperances, 4 playoff appearances
5. UNI - 82 wins, 1 Final, 3 Semifinal apperances, 5 playoff appearances
6. WKU (7 seasons) - 61 wins, 1 NC, 1 Final, 1 Semifinal apperance, 5 playoff appearances
7. JMU - 67 wins, 1 NC, 1 Final, 2 Semifinal apperances, 4 playoff appearances
8. Furman - 77 wins, 1 Final 1, 2 Semifinal apperances, 6 playoff appearances
9. McNeese - 73 wins, 1 Final, 1 Semifinal apperances, 6 playoff appearances
10. Richmond - 61 wins, 1 NC, 1 Final, 2 Semifinal apperances, 4 playoff appearances

Honorable Mention:

UMass - 71 wins, 1 Final, 1 Semifinal apperance, 3 playoff appearances &

Wofford - 71 wins, 1 Semifinal apperance, 3 playoff appearances

Surprises: How well GSU still stacks up for the decade and the low number of wins from Richmond, they've really turned that program around.

Looks very good. Maybe we could expand this and count conference titles, conference wins, overall wins, playoff wins, playoff appearances, semi final appearances, and national titles with national titles weighing more than all the others. Would be interesting if you included all of those things who would be in the top 10.

[Saint3333]

I didn't have a scoring system (i.e. national titles are worth 15 points, semis 10, playoffs 5, wins 1). Looking back I may have GSU and Delaware and JMU and Furman backwards.

AQ or at larges bids didn't matter. For me it took a minimum of 3 playoff appearances and at least one trip to the semifinals.

[smallcollegefbfan]

I didn't have a scoring system (i.e. national titles are worth 15 points, semis 10, playoffs 5, wins 1). Looking back I may have GSU and Delaware and JMU and Furman backwards.

AQ or at larges bids didn't matter. For me it took a minimum of 3 playoff appearances and at least one trip to the semifinals.

Where did you get the playoff results from? I saw them on a website before but I can't find the link now.

[CrazyCat]

http://www.fcspreview.com/history.html

[DFW HOYA]

Honorable mention to Harvard: 69-20 (.775), no more than three losses in any one season since 2000, three Ivy titles since 2004. Somehow, they make the AI work, and Tim Murphy is a great coach.

Besides, they play in a stadium that is older than many I-AA schools...

http://www.aeroads.com/gifs/havfull.jpg

[UNHWildCats]

UNH deserves an honorable mention. They had a couple tough seasons to start the decade but still have 65 wins. They also have reached the playoffs for a CAA/A-10 record 5 consecutive seasons and they will add to both of those totals this season.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Okay I expanded what you did a bit further and did an equation to figure this out. I took out WKU because they are no longer in FCS and only included those who are still in FCS.

I gave the following points for each stat
Playoff Appear- 5
Playoff Wins- 10
Semis- 15
Finals- 20
National Titles- 25
Multiple Titles Bonus- 5 for each past 1 NC

If there was a tie, and there was only 1, I used the overall amount of finals, then semis, then wins, then appearances, etc. to break the tie. Since UMASS and McNeese were tied in everything except appearances and wins I gave the tie breaker to UMASS because they had more wins and I gave that more points than I gave appearances.

Based on those rules, here are the results:

Rank Team Playoff App. (5pts) Playoff Wins (10pts) Semis (15pts) Finals (20pts) NCs (25pts) Multiple (5pts) Total Points
1 Appalachian St 35 160 60 60 75 10 400
2 Montana 45 160 75 80 25 0 385
3 Delaware 100 100 45 40 25 0 310
4 Northern Iowa 25 100 45 20 0 0 190
5 Georgia Southern 25 70 45 20 25 0 185
6 Richmond 20 80 30 20 25 0 175
7 James Madison 20 60 30 20 25 0 155
8 Furman 25 20 30 20 0 0 95
9 UMASS 15 40 15 20 0 0 90
10 McNeese St 25 30 15 20 0 0 90

Now, I did not even calculate overall wins, conference titles, and streaks of playoff appearances. If anyone has a link to that information that I can get easily I will tally those as well and provide updated ratings.

Interesting to note that ASU and Montana are clearly 1 and 2 with a gap between them and Delaware. After Delaware there is a sizable gap with UNI, GSU, Richmond, and JMU all close in points. Interesting how we have 2 clear cut powerhouses and then 4 mid tier teams.

[Umass74]

CAA Football Record
Last 10 Seasons -- 1999-2008
(All Games)

Team Wins Losses Ties Pct. Titles

Massachusetts 80 42 0 .656 4
Delaware 79 46 0 .632 3
James Madison 76 46 0 .623 3
Villanova 71 45 0 .612 1
New Hampshire 70 50 0 .583 1
Maine 63 53 0 .543 2
Richmond 65 56 0 .537 3
William and Mary58 53 0 .523 2
**Hofstra 42 50 0 .457 1
Northeastern 46 67 0 .407 1
*Towson 22 34 0 .393 0
Rhode Island 37 75 0 .330 0

* - Began league membership in 2004
** - Began league membership in 2001

From the Spring 2009 CAA press guide

[WileECoyote06]

Grambling has 81 wins in the oughts.

[Houndawg]

SIU got a late start in the decade but since 2003 is 59-17 overall including making the playoffs for six years in a row and being the only MVC school to beat a Big 10 opponent.

[OL FU]

Slow time around here. What are the top ten programs for the decade, 2000-2008:

1. ASU - 90 wins, 3 NCs, 3 Finals, 4 Semifinal apperances, 7 playoff appearances
2. Montana - 105 wins, 1 NC, 4 Finals, 5 Semifinal apperances, 9 playoff appearances
3. GSU - 76 wins, 1 NC, 1 Final, 3 Semifinal apperances, 5 playoff appearances
4. Delaware - 72 wins, 1 NC, 2 Finals, 3 Semifinal apperances, 4 playoff appearances
5. UNI - 82 wins, 1 Final, 3 Semifinal apperances, 5 playoff appearances
6. WKU (7 seasons) - 61 wins, 1 NC, 1 Final, 1 Semifinal apperance, 5 playoff appearances
7. JMU - 67 wins, 1 NC, 1 Final, 2 Semifinal apperances, 4 playoff appearances
8. Furman - 77 wins, 1 Final 1, 2 Semifinal apperances, 6 playoff appearances
9. McNeese - 73 wins, 1 Final, 1 Semifinal apperances, 6 playoff appearances
10. Richmond - 61 wins, 1 NC, 1 Final, 2 Semifinal apperances, 4 playoff appearances

.

the below is from Mountaineers ( and mine I guess) spreadsheet on playoff success. Saint's view is pretty close to our analysis. xnodx

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55151



Last 10 years:

1. Appalachian State 295
2. Montana 290
3. Georgia Southern 220
4. Delaware 170
5. Northern Iowa 140
6. Richmond 135
7. James Madison 120
T-8. Western Kentucky 115
T-8. Furman 115
T-10 Youngstown State 85
T-10 Massachusetts 85

[Brad82]

UNH has raised a lot of eyebrows!! At least honorable mention.
Going back at least 6 years?

[OL FU]

UNH has raised a lot of eyebrows!! At least honorable mention.
Going back at least 6 years?

Per the above mentioned spread sheet.


Last 5 years

1. Appalachian State 240
2. Montana 140
3. Richmond 120
4. James Madison 115
5. Northern Iowa 95
6. Southern Illinois 70
T-7. New Hampshire 65
T-7. Massachusetts 65
9. Delaware 65
10. Furman 50

[Mountaineer]

the below is from Mountaineers ( and mine I guess) spreadsheet on playoff success. Saint's view is pretty close to our analysis. xnodx

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55151

Good lookin' out Mr. FU. xthumbsupx

[Saint3333]

UNH has raised a lot of eyebrows!! At least honorable mention.
Going back at least 6 years?

Not in the playoffs they haven't.

[UNH_Alum_In_CT]

Not in the playoffs they haven't.

Guess you've forgotten about that win my Wildcats had in Statesboro against the team that I saw one GSU poster rate better than their 2000 national championship team in another thread. xwhistlex And two other road wins at Hampton and Southern Illinois. Four quarterfinal appearances in the last five years with three wins on the road really isn't that shabby IMHO. It's not like they have a one and done resume. xconfusedx xconfusedx

[Saint3333]

You mean the same UNH team that lost 47-17 to Montana the next game...

UNH went 4-6 in the playoffs during the decade and had a rough start to the decade. If we were looking at the last five years they'd make the top 10 (but not top 5). Sorry but IMO UNH doesn't crack top ten programs of the 2000's.

[twentythreeOh4]

Rank Team Playoff App. (5pts) Playoff Wins (10pts) Semis (15pts) Finals (20pts) NCs (25pts) Multiple (5pts) Total Points
1 Appalachian St 35 160 60 60 75 10 400
2 Montana 45 160 75 80 25 0 385
3 Delaware 100 100 45 40 25 0 310
4 Northern Iowa 25 100 45 20 0 0 190
5 Georgia Southern 25 70 45 20 25 0 185
6 Richmond 20 80 30 20 25 0 175
7 James Madison 20 60 30 20 25 0 155
8 Furman 25 20 30 20 0 0 95
9 UMASS 15 40 15 20 0 0 90
10 McNeese St 25 30 15 20 0 0 90

Interesting to note that ASU and Montana are clearly 1 and 2 with a gap between them and Delaware. After Delaware there is a sizable gap with UNI, GSU, Richmond, and JMU all close in points. Interesting how we have 2 clear cut powerhouses and then 4 mid tier teams.


I believe Delaware should not have 100 pts for number playoff appearances... should be 20 pts? That would drop Delaware to 230 pts total.

In any case, I find it to be an interesting calculation.

[Chi Panther]

Good info...but just reminds me of UNI's shortcoming....xbawlingx

[Houndawg]

Guess you've forgotten about that win my Wildcats had in Statesboro against the team that I saw one GSU poster rate better than their 2000 national championship team in another thread. xwhistlex And two other road wins at Hampton and Southern Illinois. Four quarterfinal appearances in the last five years with three wins on the road really isn't that shabby IMHO. It's not like they have a one and done resume. xconfusedx xconfusedx

It's hard to win at SIU and my congrats for doing so ast year, but neither team impressed anybody that day.

Hampton? Everybody wins there.:D

[BDKJMU]

Guess you've forgotten about that win my Wildcats had in Statesboro against the team that I saw one GSU poster rate better than their 2000 national championship team in another thread. xwhistlex And two other road wins at Hampton and Southern Illinois. Four quarterfinal appearances in the last five years with three wins on the road really isn't that shabby IMHO. It's not like they have a one and done resume. xconfusedx xconfusedx

If you're going by the last 5 seasons you would have to put UNH behind JMU for that period: (Copy and paste of an old post of mine off the CAAzone JMU page:

Since 04' in CAA play:
1.JMU 33- 7
2.Massachusetts 29-11
3.New Hampshire 28-12
4.Richmond 25-15
5.Villanova 22-18
6.Delaware 20-20
7. Maine 19-21
8. W&M 18-22
9. Hofstra 15-25
10. Northeastern 13-27
11. Towson 9-31
12. URI 9-31

As far as playoff record (%) though over that 5 yr period is:
1. UR 7-2, 3 appearances, NC
2. JMU 6-3, 4 appearances, NC
3. UMass & UD at 4-2, 2 appearances each, UD NC
4. UNH 4-5, 5 appearances

And as far as overall record over that 5 yr period, (ranked in terms of winning percentage) its:
1. JMU 49-15
2. UNH 47-17

[89Hen]

Four quarterfinal appearances in the last five years with three wins on the road really isn't that shabby IMHO. It's not like they have a one and done resume. xconfusedx xconfusedx
It's not shabby and it's not one and done, but no semi appearances really hurts your case IMO. xpeacex

[jmufan999]

Guess you've forgotten about that win my Wildcats had in Statesboro against the team that I saw one GSU poster rate better than their 2000 national championship team in another thread. xwhistlex And two other road wins at Hampton and Southern Illinois. Four quarterfinal appearances in the last five years with three wins on the road really isn't that shabby IMHO. It's not like they have a one and done resume. xconfusedx xconfusedx

i'm usually all about defending the CAA, but you can't bring the MEAC auto qualifier into the discussion... 4-20 playoff record since 1983. come on now. :) [edit: we should have been playing Hampton rather than at Youngstown State... wouldn't UNH to Ohio make more sense than western Virginia to eastern Virginia?]

[eaglewraith]

Guess you've forgotten about that win my Wildcats had in Statesboro against the team that I saw one GSU poster rate better than their 2000 national championship team in another thread.

Please don't bring that up again, that game still hurts me. If we'd played that game earlier in the day instead of moving it to later, the rain wouldn't have been a factor and we would have run all over UNH. I fully blame that loss on the weather cause it took away any attack we could make on the outside and we did nothing but dive plays. Before the rain it was a completely different game.

[OL FU]

I believe Delaware should not have 100 pts for number playoff appearances... should be 20 pts? That would drop Delaware to 230 pts total.

In any case, I find it to be an interesting calculation.

xconfusedx

[SIUallDay]

SIU got a late start in the decade but since 2003 is 59-17 overall including making the playoffs for six years in a row and being the only MVC school to beat a Big 10 opponent.

Quoted for emphasis

[Houndawg]

Quoted for emphasis

No longer true however. NDSU beat Minnesota.

[ngineer]

Despite three straight 'down' years, with Lehigh going 16-17, the Mountain Hawks from 2000-2008 won 72 games with three playoff appearances, where they went 2-3 (2000, 2001 and 2004, that included a 14-13 loss to NC James Madison). Worthy of an honorable mention.xnodx