View Full Version : Simon Fraser Among Institutions Applying Div II
TexasTerror
June 2nd, 2009, 02:47 PM
Here's the list of schools attempting to move into Division II, per the NCAA...
Academy of Art University (San Francisco, California)
California State University, San Marcos (San Marcos, California)
Cedarville University (Cedarville, Ohio)
Malone University (Canton, Ohio)
McKendree University (Lebanon, Illinois)
Minot State University (Minot, North Dakota)
Monroe College (New York, New York)
Mount Vernon Nazarene University (Mount Vernon, Ohio)
Notre Dame College (Cleveland, Ohio)
Simon Fraser University (Burnaby, British Columbia)
University of Sioux Falls (Sioux Falls, South Dakota)
Ursuline College (Pepper Pike, Ohio)
Walsh University (North Canton, Ohio)
William Jewel College (Liberty, Missouri)
Young Harris College (Young Harris, Georgia)
http://ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?key=/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2009/division+ii/canadian+institution+among+division+ii+membership+ applicants_06_02_09_ncaa_news
Appfan_in_CAAland
June 2nd, 2009, 04:27 PM
I read some where that Simon Fraser and U of British Columbia have eyes on joining D-I/FBS some day.
Gil Dobie
June 2nd, 2009, 06:40 PM
NDSU played Simon Fraser back in the 1981. A good NDSU team beat them 42-7, and went on to lose to Texas St (SW Texas St) in the DII championship game by a similar score, 42-13.
TexasTerror
June 2nd, 2009, 06:59 PM
Simon Fraser played several Div I opponents in hoops exhibitions over Labor Day weekend.
Women lost to Baylor 86-67 and LSU 71-47
Men lost to Cal St-Fullerton 81-78 and Colorado State 94-66
The more teams that join the NCAA the better, if you ask me! Makes for more discussion.
EPJr
June 4th, 2009, 12:39 PM
I had a feeling that they would be the the first Canadian school to test the waters of NCAA D2.
UBC cannot be far behind.
TexasTerror
July 10th, 2009, 12:59 PM
They are in...
Simon Fraser University became the first institution outside the United States to enter the NCAA membership process after the Division II Membership Committee accepted the institution’s application during a July 7-9 meeting in Indianapolis.
Simon Fraser, located in Burnaby, British Columbia, will begin a two-year candidacy period September 1. Prospective members also must complete at least one year of provisional status before being accepted as full-time Division II members, meaning the Canadian institution could become an active Division II member by fall 2012.
The NCAA Executive Committee approved a 10-year pilot program in 2007 to allow the Association to explore the idea, and Division II delegates overwhelmingly approved legislation at the 2008 Convention to open the door to its northern neighbors.
“We’re excited about having Simon Fraser working toward joining a unique group of institutions that have strong values and are continuously striving to enhance what it means to be a Division II member,” said Division II Vice President Mike Racy.
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2009/division+ii/simon+fraser+application+accepted_07_10_09_ncaa_ne ws
Dane96
July 10th, 2009, 05:26 PM
Sorry...I dont like it.
NATIONAL COLLEGIATE ASSOCIATION.
They are not NATIONAL...period...I dont give a rats what they bring to the table (and I played against VERY good...if not better Canadian schools).
This is a national association for our country.
New name: North American Collegiate Athletic Association.
griz8791
July 10th, 2009, 05:59 PM
Dane--
There's a Canadian team in the "National" Basketball Association.
There's a Canadian team in the "American" League.
There USED to be a Canadian team in the "National" League until as recently 2005.
And looking at it from the other side of the border, the Canadians have permitted a wide array of American franchises to play in THEIR "National" Hockey League (which, according to wikipedia, was formed in 1917 in Montreal).
I take your point, but it seems this horse is already out of the barn.
UNHWildCats
July 10th, 2009, 06:13 PM
I dont have a problem with it.... With any luck more teams will follow and come to FCS and maybe increase the number of teams in the northwest which will be good for the teams out there.
TheValleyRaider
July 10th, 2009, 08:04 PM
The countdown to Simon Fraser and UBC joining D-I hockey begins....
Dane96
July 10th, 2009, 09:38 PM
Dane--
There's a Canadian team in the "National" Basketball Association.
There's a Canadian team in the "American" League.
There USED to be a Canadian team in the "National" League until as recently 2005.
And looking at it from the other side of the border, the Canadians have permitted a wide array of American franchises to play in THEIR "National" Hockey League (which, according to wikipedia, was formed in 1917 in Montreal).
I take your point, but it seems this horse is already out of the barn.
Here is the difference-- to me college means more than the pros. Of course I know about that-- but that is the whole point; those leagues are about the almighty dollar...globalization helps that.
Now, i am not stupid and I know the NCAA is in it to make a buck...but to me the college game is more precious than the pros.
TexasTerror
July 13th, 2009, 02:59 PM
All sports at a school in Canada, even if not offered by the NCAA MUST followed NCAA guidelines...
In addition to determining the status of institutions progressing through the membership process, the Division II Membership Committee approved a policy requiring Canadian institutions applying for Division II membership to follow NCAA rules in all varsity sports, even those for which an NCAA championship is not offered.
The issue pertains primarily to ice hockey, for which Division II does not offer a championship but which many Canadian institutions sponsor. Current NCAA legislation (Constitution 3.2.4.4) applies NCAA bylaws and other legislation to any sport the institution sponsors as “varsity.”
At least one Canadian school considering NCAA membership has asked whether its men’s ice hockey program would be subject to NCAA requirements even though there isn’t a Division II championship and there currently is no opportunity for a Canadian institution to sponsor a sport at the NCAA Division I level.
The Membership Committee reviewed the matter but eventually agreed that any sport classified as varsity must meet the rules and regulations of that division regardless of whether that sport has access to an NCAA championship.
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2009/division+ii/membership+panel+confirms+policies+for+canadian+ap plicants_07_13_09_ncaa_news
TexasTerror
September 25th, 2009, 12:06 PM
The GNAC it is...
Simon Fraser University, the first Canadian institution to be invited into the NCAA membership process, has accepted an invitation to become the 10th active member of the Great Northwest Athletic Conference.
GNAC Commissioner Richard Hannan made the announcement during a recent news conference on the Simon Fraser campus in Burnaby, British Columbia. Simon Fraser’s membership is effective immediately, Hannan said, and its teams will begin competing in the conference in fall 2010.
“Simon Fraser provides us with another quality institution academically, athletically and geographically,” Hannan said. The GNAC currently includes member institutions in Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Alaska.
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2009/division+ii/canadian+institution+simon+fraser+joins+gnac_09_24 _09_ncaa_news
roberb7
September 26th, 2009, 02:46 PM
The countdown to Simon Fraser and UBC joining D-I hockey begins....
Ice hockey is a club sport at SFU (as is lacrosse). Don't know if they have any plans to make it a varsity sport.
roberb7
September 26th, 2009, 02:52 PM
At least one Canadian school considering NCAA membership has asked whether its men’s ice hockey program would be subject to NCAA requirements even though there isn’t a Division II championship and there currently is no opportunity for a Canadian institution to sponsor a sport at the NCAA Division I level.
This is some sort of bluff. If UBC goes to D-II, they'll probably be playing D-I ice hockey, same as Alaska-Anchorage and Alaska-Fairbanks, two D-II schools currently competing in D-I ice hockey.
TexasTerror
September 26th, 2009, 03:05 PM
This is some sort of bluff. If UBC goes to D-II, they'll probably be playing D-I ice hockey, same as Alaska-Anchorage and Alaska-Fairbanks, two D-II schools currently competing in D-I ice hockey.
FYI...
There is no Division II hockey. You either play Division I or Division III... xthumbsupx
Big Al
September 27th, 2009, 12:30 AM
Dane, the reality is that Simon Frasier & UBC entering into the NCAA as D-II teams really, really helps out the state of D-II football in the Pac NW. I think it's a good thing.
roberb7
September 28th, 2009, 06:48 PM
Latest news: Simon Fraser will be competing in the GNAC for the 2010-2011 school year, which is a year earlier than originally planned. What basically happened is, Canadian Interuniversity Sport (CIS) told SFU not to let the door hit them in the ass on their way out.
Next topic: there hasn't been any discussion yet about SFU changing their nickname. The CLAN? I don't think that's going to work in the NCAA.
TexasTerror
September 28th, 2009, 07:06 PM
Latest news: Simon Fraser will be competing in the GNAC for the 2010-2011 school year, which is a year earlier than originally planned. What basically happened is, Canadian Interuniversity Sport (CIS) told SFU not to let the door hit them in the ass on their way out.
I thought that was known when it was announced last week. See the post above, said fall 2010...
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2009/division+ii/canadian+institution+simon+fraser+joins+gnac_09_24 _09_ncaa_news
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