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UNHWildCats
April 14th, 2009, 01:42 PM
MLB has suspended Josh Beckett for 6 games because they say he intentionally threw a pitch at Bobby Abreau that resulted in benches clearing twice in Anaheim.
The incident occured because the umpire granted Abreau timeout when Beckett was already in his windup. I have seen many many wacky results of pitches being thrown when timeout is granted in the middle of a windup.
video of the pitch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcdh7lRWWcA
Its ridiculous that MLB decided this was intentional.
Grizzaholic
April 14th, 2009, 01:42 PM
Serves him right.
gmoney55
April 14th, 2009, 01:45 PM
Sounds about right.
whitey
April 14th, 2009, 01:50 PM
It's more ridiculous that you think this wasn't intentional. While I doubt he was head hunting, he definitely threw it at Abreu and then he acted like a moron after the fact. 6 games seems fair, he'll likely appeal and get it knocked down a few games so he'll only miss one start.
ISUMatt
April 14th, 2009, 01:58 PM
Jesus Christ its 1 start and he did throw at him Beckett started the benches to clear by walking towards Abreu and flailing his arms
UNHWildCats
April 14th, 2009, 01:58 PM
“He took too long delivering the ball,” said crew chief Joe West. “Abreu called time, which is normal. Then Beckett, in the middle of throwing the ball, threw the ball. They should throw the ball, rather than risk an injury.
“Did he throw it up and in? Yeah. Do we believe he threw it at Abreu? No. Would we have warned him had both benches not emptied? Probably not, but because both benches emptied, we did issue a warning,” explained West.
andy7171
April 14th, 2009, 02:02 PM
I hate the Red Sox more than the Angels, I support the MLB's decision.
ISUMatt
April 14th, 2009, 02:02 PM
Then like a spoiled brat, Beckett started towards Abreu yelling at him and motioning with his arms which caused the benches to clear...Maybe the little hot head needs to miss a start and think about things
UNHWildCats
April 14th, 2009, 02:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg4li-cPun4
The good ol days when real men played and weren't cry babies like Abreau who gets all pissy and causes the benches to clear and gets nothing....
UNHWildCats
April 14th, 2009, 02:03 PM
Then like a spoiled brat, Beckett started towards Abreu yelling at him and motioning with his arms which caused the benches to clear...Maybe the little hot head needs to miss a start and think about things
BULL ****!
ABREAU IS THE ONE WHO CAUSED ALL THE CRAP AFTER THE PITCH
ISUMatt
April 14th, 2009, 02:06 PM
BULL ****!
ABREAU IS THE ONE WHO CAUSED ALL THE CRAP AFTER THE PITCH
Abreu styayed where he was supposed to while Beckett came forward off the mound...Obviously YOU are the only one that thinks Beckett did nothing wrong
whitey
April 14th, 2009, 02:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg4li-cPun4
The good ol days when real men played and weren't cry babies like Abreau who gets all pissy and causes the benches to clear and gets nothing....
Are you really comparing an accidental (possibly joke) pitch in an All-Star game to Beckett purposefully throwing at Abreu in a real game?
UNHWildCats
April 14th, 2009, 02:10 PM
Are you really comparing an accidental (possibly joke) pitch in an All-Star game to Beckett purposefully throwing at Abreu in a real game?
Beckett was in the middle of his windup when time out was granted, its kinda foolish to assume he could actually intentionally redirect his aim to Abreau's head at that point...
Like pitchers are told he followed through and released the ball to prevent possibility of injury, as in almost all cases of a pitch being released after time out was granted the ball followed some crazy trajectory... to say it was intentional is ridiculous and unsubstantiated.
UNHWildCats
April 14th, 2009, 02:12 PM
Abreu styayed where he was supposed to while Beckett came forward off the mound...Obviously YOU are the only one that thinks Beckett did nothing wrong
this isnt even about the actions after the pitch on any side...
He was suspended for intentionally throwing at Abreau, there is no evidence to substantiate that, even the umpires on the field didnt believe he did it on purpose....
This is nothing more then Yankee Bob Watson taking the opportunity to suspend a member of the Red Sox...
whitey
April 14th, 2009, 02:14 PM
Beckett was in the middle of his windup when time out was granted, its kinda foolish to assume he could actually intentionally redirect his aim to Abreau's head at that point...
I just watched it for a 3rd and 4th time. It sounds to me like "time" was called before he even picked his foot up. As he picked his foot up the umps hands went in the air and it wasn't until he was in the middle of his windup did the umpire step to the side. To me it looks 100% intentional and his actions after the fact didn't help matters.
Obviously MLB saw something similar or they wouldn't have handed down this suspension. What the umpires saw in real-time could be different then what the league can see in slo-mo so I wouldn't put too much stock in what Joe West said.
ISUMatt
April 14th, 2009, 02:17 PM
this isnt even about the actions after the pitch on any side...
He was suspended for intentionally throwing at Abreau, there is no evidence to substantiate that, even the umpires on the field didnt believe he did it on purpose....
This is nothing more then Yankee Bob Watson taking the opportunity to suspend a member of the Red Sox...
YOU ARE WRONG!!!
MLB disciplinarian Bob Watson said Beckett was suspended and fined an undisclosed amount for the pitch, in Sunday's game at Anaheim, and for his "aggressive actions after the pitch that incited the bench-clearing incident."
UNHWildCats
April 14th, 2009, 02:19 PM
If Beckett had the kinds of history say Roger Clemens or Pedro Martinez had, I could see him being suspended for intentionally throwing at his head... But Beckett doesn't have the history and with the circumstances of time out being granted when Beckett was already going I dont see how they can say it was intentional.
UNHWildCats
April 14th, 2009, 02:19 PM
I just watched it for a 3rd and 4th time. It sounds to me like "time" was called before he even picked his foot up. As he picked his foot up the umps hands went in the air and it wasn't until he was in the middle of his windup did the umpire step to the side. To me it looks 100% intentional and his actions after the fact didn't help matters.
Obviously MLB saw something similar or they wouldn't have handed down this suspension. What the umpires saw in real-time could be different then what the league can see in slo-mo so I wouldn't put too much stock in what Joe West said.
Beckett is already going when the umpire begins to raise his arms to signify timeout.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2235/thepitch.png
danefan
April 14th, 2009, 02:20 PM
YOU ARE WRONG!!!
MLB disciplinarian Bob Watson said Beckett was suspended and fined an undisclosed amount for the pitch, in Sunday's game at Anaheim, and for his "aggressive actions after the pitch that incited the bench-clearing incident."
Pretty clear from the video that had Becket just kept his mouth shut after the pitch it would blown over.
Grizzaholic
April 14th, 2009, 02:21 PM
BULL ****!
ABREAU IS THE ONE WHO CAUSED ALL THE CRAP AFTER THE PITCH
Someone else sure seems to be crying over this deal......
danefan
April 14th, 2009, 02:22 PM
Beckett is already going when the umpire begins to raise his arms to signify timeout.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2235/thepitch.png
You don't know how long before that Abreu called Time out. I don't think Becket necessarily through at his head, but he certainly was trying to make a point. He could have easily took something off the pitch when he saw that time was called.
ISUMatt
April 14th, 2009, 02:22 PM
Scoscia remained on the field while his players returned to the dugout, then was approached by Beckett. The teams returned to the field, pushing and shoving ensued, and Hunter, Hatcher and Speier were ejected
Beckett was being a tool after the fact...Its not the pitch that landed him in hot water, its everything else
whitey
April 14th, 2009, 02:23 PM
Beckett is already going when the umpire begins to raise his arms to signify timeout.
That's exactly what I said, he picked his foot up as the ump signaled time out. However, you can hear the ump calling timeout prior to him going into motion. Nice screen shot, btw.
Grizzaholic
April 14th, 2009, 02:23 PM
Scoscia remained on the field while his players returned to the dugout, then was approached by Beckett. The teams returned to the field, pushing and shoving ensued, and Hunter, Hatcher and Speier were ejected
Beckett was being a tool after the fact...Its not the pitch that landed him in hot water, its everything else
And there it is.
whitey
April 14th, 2009, 02:24 PM
This is nothing more then Yankee Bob Watson taking the opportunity to suspend a member of the Red Sox...
Do you have a spare tin-foil hat?
UNHWildCats
April 14th, 2009, 02:24 PM
You don't know how long before that Abreu called Time out. I don't think Becket necessarily through at his head, but he certainly was trying to make a point. He could have easily took something off the pitch when he saw that time was called.
Doesnt matter when Abreau asked for timeout... asking isnt guaranteed for getting it.... it WAS GRANTED after Beckett began his motion.... Pitchers are told to follow through to prevent possible injury from stopping mid pitch.
JayJ79
April 14th, 2009, 02:26 PM
Beckett was in the middle of his windup when time out was granted, its kinda foolish to assume he could actually intentionally redirect his aim to Abreau's head at that point...
Like pitchers are told he followed through and released the ball to prevent possibility of injury, as in almost all cases of a pitch being released after time out was granted the ball followed some crazy trajectory... to say it was intentional is ridiculous and unsubstantiated.
if that is the case, then he is just a really sucky pitcher, and you should be glad he won't be making that start.
Yes, he should have gone ahead and completed the pitch, even if time had been called. but just because time is called doesn't give any reason why that should adversely affect the pitchers control to that extent.
On the flip side, that's a pathetic excuse for both benches to clear anyway.
Grizzaholic
April 14th, 2009, 02:26 PM
Doesnt matter when Abreau asked for timeout... asking isnt guaranteed for getting it.... it WAS GRANTED after Beckett began his motion.... Pitchers are told to follow through to prevent possible injury from stopping mid pitch.
If you keep spinning that record it will get broken.
bodoyle
April 14th, 2009, 02:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg4li-cPun4
The good ol days when real men played and weren't cry babies like Abreau who gets all pissy and causes the benches to clear and gets nothing....
Have you no memory of Manny getting his panties in a bundle when he was on your team over a similar incident?
Beckett got what he deserved.
danefan
April 14th, 2009, 02:29 PM
Doesnt matter when Abreau asked for timeout... asking isnt guaranteed for getting it.... it WAS GRANTED after Beckett began his motion.... Pitchers are told to follow through to prevent possible injury from stopping mid pitch.
You can follow through very easily without throwing a 94 mph pitch. I don't think he should have had to stop his windup. He needed to just loft it in there like every other pitcher does.
Take a look at 8:10 of the video. That's why he got suspended.
UNHWildCats
April 14th, 2009, 02:30 PM
Have you no memory of Manny getting his panties in a bundle when he was on your team over a similar incident?
Beckett got what he deserved.
im not sure anyone has ever claimed manny was a real man xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx
UNHWildCats
April 14th, 2009, 02:31 PM
You can follow through very easily without throwing a 94 mph pitch. I don't think he should have had to stop his windup. He needed to just loft it in there like every other pitcher does.
Take a look at 8:10 of the video. That's why he got suspended.
oh please half the freaking video is that ^$%& ^#$ *$%&*#$ Scioscia whining cause Beckett didnt get ejected.
Grizzaholic
April 14th, 2009, 02:31 PM
im not sure anyone has ever claimed manny or coco crisp was a real man xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx
helped you out.
LeopardFan04
April 14th, 2009, 03:02 PM
In his defense, we've all wanted to throw a baseball at Bobby Abreu now and again...
wideright82
April 14th, 2009, 03:06 PM
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I told you UNH.
UNHWildCats
April 14th, 2009, 03:06 PM
In his defense, we've all wanted to throw a baseball at Bobby Abreu now and again...
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griz37
April 14th, 2009, 03:21 PM
Go Rays!
813Jag
April 14th, 2009, 03:23 PM
Go Rays!
xthumbsupx
OSBF
April 14th, 2009, 03:46 PM
YOU ARE WRONG!!!
Mel, is that you? I didn't know you posted here, hell, I'm pretty sure I've heard you say you don't really care for FCS football at all. What gives dood?:Dxwhistlex:Dxwhistlex
Gil Dobie
April 14th, 2009, 07:18 PM
MLB has suspended Josh Beckett for 6 games because they say he intentionally threw a pitch at Bobby Abreau that resulted in benches clearing twice in Anaheim.
The incident occured because the umpire granted Abreau timeout when Beckett was already in his windup. I have seen many many wacky results of pitches being thrown when timeout is granted in the middle of a windup.
video of the pitch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcdh7lRWWcA
Its ridiculous that MLB decided this was intentional.
I'll be 4 rows behind the Angels dugout on Friday, anything you would like me to say to Abreau? xlolx
Gil Dobie
April 16th, 2009, 11:12 AM
I'll be 4 rows behind the Angels dugout on Friday, anything you would like me to say to Abreau? xlolx
Guess I won't find out before Friday :(
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