View Full Version : I-A Bowl Projections
89Hen
November 23rd, 2005, 04:38 PM
OK, it's I-A Bowls, and there are lots of dog bowls but I still love watching CF and there are some very interesting bowl projections IMO....
BCS
Rose: USC vs. Texas - obviously the biggie
Orange: Penn State vs. Virginia Tech - IMO a fantastic match-up
Fiesta: Notre Dame vs. Ohio State - classic!
Sugar: LSU vs. West Virginia - zzzzzzz
Others of note....
Champs Sports: Nebraska vs. Florida State - it's not the Orange, but a classic
Outback: Michigan vs. Georgia - see above
Holiday: Oregon vs. Colorado - like to see the big state schools go at it
Sun: UCLA vs. Minnesota - could set NCAA scoring records, neither plays D (both let up 52 this year)
Worst IMO...
New Orleans: UL-Lafayette vs. Southern Miss - being played at ULL
Hawaii: Tulsa vs. Nevada - one way to make paradise look like a dump
Insight: Cal vs. Rutgers - its Rutgers in a baseball stadium
BTW, right now the ACC is projecting EIGHT bowl teams. :eek: The SEC, BigXII, Big 10 and Pac 10 are ALL short on bowl eligible teams.
griz37
November 23rd, 2005, 04:42 PM
I would love to see my Wolverines play Georgia!!! South Carolina would be a good opponent also.
TexasTerror
November 23rd, 2005, 04:53 PM
Bowls? Who cares. Until they get some form of playoff, even if it's a "plus one" that gives us a semifinal...I'm boycotting! It's the only way we can win. If we all boycott going to and watching the bowls...
Here's to USC and Texas suffering upsets at the hands of UCLA or A&M...
Let's have ourselves a mess instead of everything turning up roses...BAH!
89Hen
November 23rd, 2005, 04:56 PM
You know what thought TT, I used to be a HUGE proponent of playoffs for I-A. I had even come up with the entire scenario 4-5 years ago and used to parade it out every chance I got. But now, I kinda like the fact that we have the only Division I playoff in football in I-AA. Let the I-A fans suffer forever for all I care.
TexasTerror
November 23rd, 2005, 05:03 PM
You know what thought TT, I used to be a HUGE proponent of playoffs for I-A. I had even come up with the entire scenario 4-5 years ago and used to parade it out every chance I got. But now, I kinda like the fact that we have the only Division I playoff in football in I-AA. Let the I-A fans suffer forever for all I care.
Oh, I love us having I-AA playoffs. I tell Sam friends of mine how excited I was with Montana St/Montana, CCU vs Chuck South, SHSU/TxSt and all those possible games that could knock teams out of the playoffs or seeds.
However, I'm big into March Madness and seeing great matchups. Funny how we somehow always get first or secound round matchups featuring Bobby Knight and one of his old assistants/players. I'd love to see JoePa vs Bobby Bowden in a game that matters. Mack Brown vs Steve Spurrier in the battle of the visor? Notre Dame-Ohio State? Virginia Tech vs West Virginia?
Tribefan
November 23rd, 2005, 05:48 PM
If I-A instituted even a 16 team playoff then I think the excitement would just be too ridiculous to even predict.
The Bowl system is awful. Could you imagine if I-AA selected playoff schools based on whether or not fans "travel well"?
TexasTerror
November 23rd, 2005, 05:52 PM
The Bowl system is awful. Could you imagine if I-AA selected playoff schools based on whether or not fans "travel well"?
Montana, McNeese and a select few other teams would be IN each year regardless of outcome!
89Hen
November 25th, 2005, 06:18 PM
Could you imagine if I-AA selected playoff schools based on whether or not fans "travel well"?
And the problem with that would be?.... :p
ISUMatt
November 25th, 2005, 07:38 PM
OK, it's I-A Bowls, and there are lots of dog bowls but I still love watching CF and there are some very interesting bowl projections IMO....
BCS
Rose: USC vs. Texas - obviously the biggie
Orange: Penn State vs. Virginia Tech - IMO a fantastic match-up
Fiesta: Notre Dame vs. Ohio State - classic!
Sugar: LSU vs. West Virginia - zzzzzzz
Others of note....
Champs Sports: Nebraska vs. Florida State - it's not the Orange, but a classic
Outback: Michigan vs. Georgia - see above
Holiday: Oregon vs. Colorado - like to see the big state schools go at it
Sun: UCLA vs. Minnesota - could set NCAA scoring records, neither plays D (both let up 52 this year)
Worst IMO...
New Orleans: UL-Lafayette vs. Southern Miss - being played at ULL
Hawaii: Tulsa vs. Nevada - one way to make paradise look like a dump
Insight: Cal vs. Rutgers - its Rutgers in a baseball stadium
BTW, right now the ACC is projecting EIGHT bowl teams. :eek: The SEC, BigXII, Big 10 and Pac 10 are ALL short on bowl eligible teams.
Where are they projecting Northwestern and Northern Illinois?
Marcus Garvey
November 26th, 2005, 12:38 AM
[QUOTE=89Hen]
Fiesta: Notre Dame vs. Ohio State - classic!
QUOTE]
Two schools I $%*#ing hate! I have tickets to the Fiesta Bowl with a friend of mine too. He's no fan of either team, but doesn't dislike them as much as me. Maybe we can make a tidy profit gouging a Buckeye or Irish fan.
Frankly, If some ND or OSU fan gave me their first-born for my ticket, I could TOTALY sleep at night and live with myself for exploiting their child!
:D :D :D :D :D :D
89Hen
November 26th, 2005, 09:03 AM
Where are they projecting Northwestern and Northern Illinois?
Don't know about NIU, but they had Northwestern at the Music City against Mrs89's alma mater UVA.
89Hen
November 26th, 2005, 09:04 AM
Fiesta: Notre Dame vs. Ohio State - classic!
Two schools I $%*#ing hate!
You had to know there was a pretty good chance of getting ND there. I guess you were hoping for a team that you could root for against them.
Marcus Garvey
November 26th, 2005, 10:32 AM
You had to know there was a pretty good chance of getting ND there. I guess you were hoping for a team that you could root for against them.
Amen brother!
FlyYtown
November 26th, 2005, 10:33 AM
Notre Dame and YSU are my teams.
GO NOTRE DAME BABY!!! Showing my hate toward O-H-I-O.. The state I love!
UNHWildCats
November 26th, 2005, 10:48 AM
OK, it's I-A Bowls, and there are lots of dog bowls but I still love watching CF and there are some very interesting bowl projections IMO....
BCS
Rose: USC vs. Texas - obviously the biggie
Orange: Penn State vs. Virginia Tech - IMO a fantastic match-up
Fiesta: Notre Dame vs. Ohio State - classic!
Sugar: LSU vs. West Virginia - zzzzzzz
Others of note....
Champs Sports: Nebraska vs. Florida State - it's not the Orange, but a classic
Outback: Michigan vs. Georgia - see above
Holiday: Oregon vs. Colorado - like to see the big state schools go at it
Sun: UCLA vs. Minnesota - could set NCAA scoring records, neither plays D (both let up 52 this year)
Worst IMO...
New Orleans: UL-Lafayette vs. Southern Miss - being played at ULL
Hawaii: Tulsa vs. Nevada - one way to make paradise look like a dump
Insight: Cal vs. Rutgers - its Rutgers in a baseball stadium
BTW, right now the ACC is projecting EIGHT bowl teams. :eek: The SEC, BigXII, Big 10 and Pac 10 are ALL short on bowl eligible teams.
South Florida, hmm whatever that florida team is in the big east they can still win the big east auto bid by winning there last 2 games, god BIG EAST needs to lose there auto bcs bid
AppGuy04
November 26th, 2005, 04:48 PM
and they say the ACC isn't the best football conference
it may not have the "storied" programs and 100,000 people stadiums like the Big Ten and SEC but it is the deepest conference in the land
Tribefan
November 27th, 2005, 02:24 AM
Yeah the ACC is so good that FSU can still get a BCS berth. Give me a break.
UNHWildCats
November 27th, 2005, 04:19 AM
South Florida, hmm whatever that florida team is in the big east they can still win the big east auto bid by winning there last 2 games, god BIG EAST needs to lose there auto bcs bid
no sooner then i say this and South Florida blows its chance by losing to connecticut
UNHWildCats
November 27th, 2005, 04:21 AM
Yeah the ACC is so good that FSU can still get a BCS berth. Give me a break.
its like the a-10 on anygiven saturday, just about any team can win, (except Duke) i've told a friend in North Carolina that the Tarheels may be 1 stud player from being a top 10 team. I dont think the ACC is the best conference but its very damn good.
Best? Pac10 hands down
89Hen
November 27th, 2005, 08:23 PM
Yeah the ACC is so good that FSU can still get a BCS berth. Give me a break.
Uhhhh, so can Colorado and if Iowa State hadn't choked against Kansas yesterday, they would have had the shot. That's just the nature of a 12 team conference... you should know. :p
89Hen
November 27th, 2005, 08:24 PM
and they say the ACC isn't the best football conference
Yeah, but when they said that, it wasn't. Prior to VT, Miami and BC joining they were the fourth best conference IMO. Now they are as good any any.
Tribefan
November 27th, 2005, 11:18 PM
Yeah I do :rolleyes: But the ACC hads been highly overated all year by ACCSPN. I think Herbstreit and Corso want to have a child Ron Mexico (Vick). I think that the only time Syracuse could have won a game this season (other than Buffalo) was against overpaid Al Groh and UVA. Louisville abosolutely throttled UNC, I think they scored something like 70 points on them. The ACC is basically 2 good football schools that have a tendency to choke and a few slightly above average teams. But that's just my opinion.
Boston College is having a "peak" year. Very soon they will morph into Wake Forest North.
AppGuy04
November 28th, 2005, 11:08 AM
Yeah I do :rolleyes: But the ACC hads been highly overated all year by ACCSPN. I think Herbstreit and Corso want to have a child Ron Mexico (Vick). I think that the only time Syracuse could have won a game this season (other than Buffalo) was against overpaid Al Groh and UVA. Louisville abosolutely throttled UNC, I think they scored something like 70 points on them. The ACC is basically 2 good football schools that have a tendency to choke and a few slightly above average teams. But that's just my opinion.
Boston College is having a "peak" year. Very soon they will morph into Wake Forest North.
I don't know about you, but to me, a good conference means a deep conference
with the exception of Duke, anybody can beat anybody
89Hen
November 28th, 2005, 11:30 AM
I think that the only time Syracuse could have won a game this season (other than Buffalo) was against overpaid Al Groh and UVA. Louisville abosolutely throttled UNC
:confused: Last time I looked UVA was in 5th in their 6 team division and UNC isn't going to a bowl.
Georgia Tech 23 - Auburn 14
Clemson 13 - South Carolina 9
Clemson 25 - Texas A&M 24
Miami 23 - Colorado 3
Virginia Tech 34 - West Virginia 17
Tribefan
November 28th, 2005, 11:54 PM
Louisville 69 UNC 14
UNC 16 BC 14
...........
West Virginia 31 Maryland 19
Maryland 45 Virginia 33
.............
and uhhhhhh
Virginia 26 FSU 21
That's pretty damn sorry that FSU is in the ACC championship game. I guess they picked the right division to be in this season. Virginia is in what 5th place you say? And that strengthens your argument how? Maybe the ACC just isn't as good as Kirk Herbstreit says they are. What happens if FSU beats Va Tech and the ACC sends an unranked team to the BCS?
LacesOut
November 29th, 2005, 07:59 AM
Some good matchups 89. I like the Big Bowls, not the smaller ones. Always have, always will. Don't want to see a playoff tournament at this level. It's not necessary, IMO.
And trust me, D-I football will never suffer $$ wise or fan base wise because they don't have a playoff system.
Tribefan
November 29th, 2005, 10:54 AM
I think a playoff with anything less than 16 teams is a waste. 32 teams would be perfect. An 8 team playoff just pushes the controversy to the #8 spot. Even with 32/16 team playoff there could still be some bowls that would be like an NIT for college football.
College football at the I-A level isn't even close to it's potential popularity wise. A playoff wuld just about max it out.
89Hen
November 29th, 2005, 12:51 PM
UNC 16 BC 14
Maryland 45 Virginia 33
Virginia 26 FSU 21
Picking conference games to compare anything is foolish. Again, you of all people should know that.
William & Mary 42 - New Hampshire 10
New Hampshire 53 - Rhode Island 9
Rhode Island 48 - William & Mary 29
and none of them were as close as the score indicated. :p
Tribefan
November 29th, 2005, 01:55 PM
Why is it foolish? I think it's foolish to suggest that the ACC is the best conference in football when FSU is in the title game. The ACC might be equal to an offensively challenged SEC this year, itis better than the Big 12 and the Big East, but it's not as good as the PAC-10 or the Big 10. No way in hell.
Besides what do you care? If the ACC isn't the best conference in football in two years they'll just put together another boatload of cash and steal some more schools.
89Hen
November 29th, 2005, 02:04 PM
Why is it foolish? I think it's foolish to suggest that the ACC is the best conference in football when FSU is in the title game. The ACC might be equal to an offensively challenged SEC this year, itis better than the Big 12 and the Big East, but it's not as good as the PAC-10 or the Big 10. No way in hell.
C'mon Tribe. If the Big 10 were split into two divisions, Northwestern or Iowa would be playing Penn State for their BCS bid. Pac10? You must be joking. One trick pony.
Tribefan
November 29th, 2005, 02:24 PM
You really think the Big 10 would be so stupid as to put PSU, Michigan and OSU in the same division?
89Hen
November 29th, 2005, 02:29 PM
You really think the Big 10 would be so stupid as to put PSU, Michigan and OSU in the same division?
Only if you think the SEC would be stupid enough to put Georgia, Florida and Tennessee in the same division. :rolleyes:
Tribefan
November 29th, 2005, 02:41 PM
Well they don't really have a choice. Take one of those teams out and substitute Auburn, LSU or Bama and you don't gain or lose anything. The SEC has true depth. FSU in the championship game just exposes the ACC's lack of true depth. Just like the Big 12 this season as well. The ACC just isn't as good Kirk Herbstreit says it is.
dbackjon
November 29th, 2005, 02:42 PM
Only if you think the SEC would be stupid enough to put Georgia, Florida and Tennessee in the same division. :rolleyes:
That's because the SEC has enough depth that they didn't need to "arrange" divisions to separate FSU and Miami.
89Hen
November 29th, 2005, 02:58 PM
Line em up...
Virginia Tech - Penn State - USC
Miami - Ohio State - Oregon
Georgia Tech - Wisconsin - UCLA
Florida State - Michigan - Cal
Boston College - Iowa - Arizona State
Clemson - Northwestern - Stanford
North Carolina - Minnesota - Oregon State
Virginia - Purdue - Arizona
NC State - Michigan State - Washington State
Maryland - Indiana - Washington
Wake Forest - Illinois
Duke
Not really sure where other than USC that any conference has a clear advantage.
blur2005
November 29th, 2005, 09:26 PM
Best? Pac10 hands down
"choke"
Pac-10. That's a good one.
ACC for life. I agree that it's a joke for Florida State to be in, but the Atlantic Division had lots of teams that beat each other up. As long as Virginia Tech wins (even bigger "choke"), the ACC will have the correct representative. I wish personally that we could have a VA Tech-Miami redux, but as a UVA student I think it's clear who I'd cheer for. My problem is the only team I might despise more than Tech is FSU, so the ACC championship game is rough for me...but at least we beat the Seminoles! Tech was a different story :rolleyes:
But I am tempted to agree with the SEC, though I think this year the SEC is down. I know that sounds odd, but the only teams that are for real in that conference this year are LSU and Auburn. Bama had Tyrone Prothro and a great defense, and when Prothro went down, there Bama went. Florida wasn't particularly great though they did beat FSU, South Carolina is alright, Tennessee went from boom to bust, and Georgia is good, but Auburn beat them and UGA is similar to Bama with just a slightly better offense. I will be cheering for the Dawgs in the SEC Championship game though, as my dad got his Ph.D. there.
UNHWildCats
November 30th, 2005, 07:51 AM
Line em up...
Virginia Tech - Penn State - USC
Miami - Ohio State - Oregon
Georgia Tech - Wisconsin - UCLA
Florida State - Michigan - Cal
Boston College - Iowa - Arizona State
Clemson - Northwestern - Stanford
North Carolina - Minnesota - Oregon State
Virginia - Purdue - Arizona
NC State - Michigan State - Washington State
Maryland - Indiana - Washington
Wake Forest - Illinois
Duke
Not really sure where other than USC that any conference has a clear advantage.
Conference records between ACC, SEC, BIG X, PAC 10
ACC vs. other 3 ..... 2-3 wins:S Carolina, Auburn
SEC vs other 3 ..... 4-5 wins: GA Tech, FL St, Wake, Ariz St
BIG X vs other 3..... 3-2 wins: N.Carol, Arizona, Kentucky
PAC 10 vs other 3..... 3-2 wins: Illinois, Northwestern, Arkansas
Now that I have looked up these results I would rank the conferences this season as follows
1. ACC (there wins were more quality)
2. PAC 10 (sorry they edge the SEC because I think USC, UCLA and Oregon are a better trio then LSU, AUburn and Georgia
3. SEC (close behind the PAC 10 such quality depth in the conference)
4. BIG X (by far the weakest of the four conferences. Penn St and Ohiop St lead the way but mediocrity after that.)
After though: I would pick Notre Dame as a better team then any of these conferences, The Irish has gone 5-2 against thes conferences and both loses were games that were won in the final seconds. Notre Dame should easily be undefeated.
dbackjon
November 30th, 2005, 09:31 AM
Conference records between ACC, SEC, BIG X, PAC 10
ACC vs. other 3 ..... 2-3 wins:S Carolina, Auburn
SEC vs other 3 ..... 4-5 wins: GA Tech, FL St, Wake, Ariz St
BIG X vs other 3..... 3-2 wins: N.Carol, Arizona, Kentucky
PAC 10 vs other 3..... 3-2 wins: Illinois, Northwestern, Arkansas
Now that I have looked up these results I would rank the conferences this season as follows
1. ACC (there wins were more quality)
2. PAC 10 (sorry they edge the SEC because I think USC, UCLA and Oregon are a better trio then LSU, AUburn and Georgia
3. SEC (close behind the PAC 10 such quality depth in the conference)
4. BIG X (by far the weakest of the four conferences. Penn St and Ohiop St lead the way but mediocrity after that.)
After though: I would pick Notre Dame as a better team then any of these conferences, The Irish has gone 5-2 against thes conferences and both loses were games that were won in the final seconds. Notre Dame should easily be undefeated.
Well, Notre Dame lost to a Big 10 team that finished in the bottom of the league (9th), and played a pretty underwhelming schedule. Notre Dame would be lucky to go 5-3 in any of the Big 4 conferences.
OOC I would say the SEC had the best wins - GA Tech, FL St and AZ State.
89Hen
November 30th, 2005, 09:36 AM
OOC I would say the SEC had the best wins - GA Tech, FL St and AZ State.
They also had 5 losses to go with them though.
AZGrizFan
November 30th, 2005, 12:15 PM
OK, it's I-A Bowls, and there are lots of dog bowls but I still love watching CF and there are some very interesting bowl projections IMO....
BCS
Rose: USC vs. Texas - obviously the biggie
Orange: Penn State vs. Virginia Tech - IMO a fantastic match-up
Fiesta: Notre Dame vs. Ohio State - classic!
Sugar: LSU vs. West Virginia - zzzzzzz
Others of note....
Champs Sports: Nebraska vs. Florida State - it's not the Orange, but a classic
Outback: Michigan vs. Georgia - see above
Holiday: Oregon vs. Colorado - like to see the big state schools go at it
Sun: UCLA vs. Minnesota - could set NCAA scoring records, neither plays D (both let up 52 this year)
Worst IMO...
New Orleans: UL-Lafayette vs. Southern Miss - being played at ULL
Hawaii: Tulsa vs. Nevada - one way to make paradise look like a dump
Insight: Cal vs. Rutgers - its Rutgers in a baseball stadium
BTW, right now the ACC is projecting EIGHT bowl teams. :eek: The SEC, BigXII, Big 10 and Pac 10 are ALL short on bowl eligible teams.
Hen, I think AzState is going to the Insight Bowl against Rutgers. Such a promising season pissed down their leg again....Cal may be going to the Las Vegas Bowl (a MUCH better venue, in my opinion!).
dbackjon
November 30th, 2005, 12:40 PM
They also had 5 losses to go with them though.
And was 3-2 vs ACC :)
Least embarrassing losses:
Big 10 - only lost OOC 5 games, all to bowl teams, 3 in top 10 (Texas, Notre Dame twice, Arizona St and Cal)
ACC - lost 9 OOC games, 2 to non-bowl teams (Vandy, East Carolina)
SEC - lost 9 OOC games, 3 to non-bowl teams (MTSU, Indiana, Wyoming)
Pac 10 - lost 8 OOC games, 3 to non-bowl/playoff teams (Air Force, Purdue, UC-Davis)
89Hen
November 30th, 2005, 03:27 PM
ACC - lost 9 OOC games, 2 to non-bowl teams (Vandy, East Carolina)
Well, 4 of the losses (both to non-bowl teams) were by Duke (the 12th team that the B10 and Pac10 don't have) and Wake (the 11th team that the Pac10 doesn't have).
89Hen
November 30th, 2005, 03:36 PM
Hen, I think AzState is going to the Insight Bowl against Rutgers. Such a promising season pissed down their leg again....Cal may be going to the Las Vegas Bowl (a MUCH better venue, in my opinion!).
Yeah, I saw that. The projection I posted was a week or more ago that. The four BCS bowls haven't changed on the projection, but a couple others have.
Champs Sports is now Florida State vs. Missouri (instead of Nebraska, not as compelling)
Holiday is now Oregon vs. Oklahoma (instead of Colorado, just as compelling)
Independence: Nebraska vs. Florida compelling just for names
blur2005
December 1st, 2005, 12:37 PM
Word is UVA will play Utah in the Emerald Bowl. Great. The excitement just BURNS within me.
blur2005
December 1st, 2005, 12:43 PM
Well, Notre Dame lost to a Big 10 team that finished in the bottom of the league (9th), and played a pretty underwhelming schedule. Notre Dame would be lucky to go 5-3 in any of the Big 4 conferences.
OOC I would say the SEC had the best wins - GA Tech, FL St and AZ State.
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You've got to be kidding me with that comment. Notre Dame is certainly one of the better teams in the country this year. The Michigan State team that beat them was not the same one that dropped like their last five in a row. They played the one that was on fire. Besides, it was in OT, which is a crapshoot. Kind of like the Irish barely beat a Stanford team that was not the same one that lost to UC Davis. How many teams have come so close to beating USC that they had the game won with 7 seconds left, only to lose? ND's defense leaves something to be desired, but I really feel they are very good. If the Irish play Ohio State in the Fiesta, that would certainly be a very interesting game.
bandl
December 1st, 2005, 12:50 PM
Word is UVA will play Utah in the Emerald Bowl. Great. The excitement just BURNS within me.
Where's that? In Oz? Will that hottie Dorothy be there?
Any bowls past that involve teams ranked past...say...the top 30....are a joke. At most the top 3 in a conference should go bowling....that's it. Is a bowl for the 4th or 5th place team in any conference really any consolation???
89Hen
December 1st, 2005, 01:16 PM
Word is UVA will play Utah in the Emerald Bowl. Great. The excitement just BURNS within me.
Well at least if they do I won't have to think about going. Nashville maybe. SF, not in the cards (wallet to be more precise). Utah has already committed, but Fox Sports is showing NCSt playing them. They ought to be announcing soon.
89Hen
December 1st, 2005, 01:24 PM
Is a bowl for the 4th or 5th place team in any conference really any consolation???
I understand the disdain for lower bowls, but they can be great under the right circumstances. I went to the first Tire Bowl three years ago in Charlotte when UVA played WVU. It doesn't get any worse sounding than the Continental Tire Bowl, but the game set a stadium record at the time (over 72,000) and it was one of the coolest atmosphere's I've been in for a game. I've been to big stadiums that were packed, but never to a game that had so many fans from both sides. WVU fans did outnumber UVA fans but there were still 25,000 or more UVA fans. One third of the stadium was a sea of orange, the other two thirds were all yellow. It couldn't have been any more pronounced, I'll have to try to post a picture from that day.
bandl
December 1st, 2005, 01:36 PM
I understand the disdain for lower bowls, but they can be great under the right circumstances. I went to the first Tire Bowl three years ago in Charlotte when UVA played WVU. It doesn't get any worse sounding than the Continental Tire Bowl, but the game set a stadium record at the time (over 72,000) and it was one of the coolest atmosphere's I've been in for a game. I've been to big stadiums that were packed, but never to a game that had so many fans from both sides. WVU fans did outnumber UVA fans but there were still 25,000 or more UVA fans. One third of the stadium was a sea of orange, the other two thirds were all yellow. It couldn't have been any more pronounced, I'll have to try to post a picture from that day.
Interesting point...I've never thought about it that way. The closest I've been to that is VT @ UVA & FSU @ UF. The visiting team had a good share of the crowd, but by no means were they even close to half the crowd!
I'd be interested to see that pic if you ever find it.
89Hen
December 1st, 2005, 01:37 PM
I went to the first Tire Bowl three years ago in Charlotte when UVA played WVU. It doesn't get any worse sounding than the Continental Tire Bowl, but the game set a stadium record at the time (over 72,000) and it was one of the coolest atmosphere's I've been in for a game. I've been to big stadiums that were packed, but never to a game that had so many fans from both sides. WVU fans did outnumber UVA fans but there were still 25,000 or more UVA fans. One third of the stadium was a sea of orange, the other two thirds were all yellow. It couldn't have been any more pronounced, I'll have to try to post a picture from that day.
Here's a link to a video of UVA taking the field that gives you an idea of the crowd. Keep in mind that the stadium has Carolina blue seats and there's not a speck of powder blue anywhere in that stadium.
UVA takes the field at the Tire Bowl (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?SID=3613905)
AppGuy04
December 1st, 2005, 01:39 PM
Here's a link to a video of UVA taking the field that gives you an idea of the crowd. Keep in mind that the stadium has Carolina blue seats and there's not a speck of powder blue anywhere in that stadium.
UVA takes the field at the Tire Bowl (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?SID=3613905)
that is pretty cool
bandl
December 1st, 2005, 01:39 PM
Here's a link to a video of UVA taking the field that gives you an idea of the crowd. Keep in mind that the stadium has Carolina blue seats and there's not a speck of powder blue anywhere in that stadium.
UVA takes the field at the Tire Bowl (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?SID=3613905)
Good stuff man. Good stuff. I'm not a fan of UVA at all, but that is pretty cool seeing a sea of orange in the seats.
89Hen
December 1st, 2005, 01:47 PM
The only thing the video doesn't capture is how cool 'The Walk' (as it became known) was. WVU had taken the field with their band playing and the Mountaineer with his musket running onto the field with the team charging in after him. Pretty cool, normal entrance for a team. Then UVA came out as one team, holding hands, WALKING across the field. The UVA fans went absolutely bonkers. I had never seen a team take the field like that. It was one of those moments that you really had to be there to get.
AppGuy04
December 1st, 2005, 01:56 PM
The only thing the video doesn't capture is how cool 'The Walk' (as it became known) was. WVU had taken the field with their band playing and the Mountaineer with his musket running onto the field with the team charging in after him. Pretty cool, normal entrance for a team. Then UVA came out as one team, holding hands, WALKING across the field. The UVA fans went absolutely bonkers. I had never seen a team take the field like that. It was one of those moments that you really had to be there to get.
and they came out right in front of the WVU fans side of the field
dbackjon
December 1st, 2005, 02:05 PM
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Or even better:
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You've got to be kidding me with that comment. Notre Dame is certainly one of the better teams in the country this year. The Michigan State team that beat them was not the same one that dropped like their last five in a row. They played the one that was on fire. Besides, it was in OT, which is a crapshoot. Kind of like the Irish barely beat a Stanford team that was not the same one that lost to UC Davis. How many teams have come so close to beating USC that they had the game won with 7 seconds left, only to lose? ND's defense leaves something to be desired, but I really feel they are very good. If the Irish play Ohio State in the Fiesta, that would certainly be a very interesting game.
Have you really been seeing USC play? They have comeback in several of their games, and have had close games with FRESNO STATE.
Like the last time ND played in a BCS bowl, this next one will not be pretty, unless they draw the Big Least team.
89Hen
December 1st, 2005, 02:33 PM
Like the last time ND played in a BCS bowl, this next one will not be pretty, unless they draw the Big Least team.
:nono: Bookmarked.
dbackjon
December 1st, 2005, 02:50 PM
:nono: Bookmarked.
Feel free too - if ND proves me wrong, I am man enough to say you were right.
89Hen
December 1st, 2005, 03:08 PM
Feel free too - if ND proves me wrong, I am man enough to say you were right.
You know, you may be onto something though.
The year you refer to was 2000 when ND was 9-2 with one of the losses being to 5-6 Michigan State, the other a 3 point loss to then #1 ranked Nebraska and they headed to the Fiesta Bowl. This year ND is 9-2 with a loss to 5-6 Michigan State and a 3 point loss to #1 USC. Cue the twilight zone music.
Hey, they don't call me the king of inane stats for nothing! :p
LacesOut
December 1st, 2005, 03:09 PM
I understand the disdain for lower bowls, but they can be great under the right circumstances. I went to the first Tire Bowl three years ago in Charlotte when UVA played WVU. It doesn't get any worse sounding than the Continental Tire Bowl, but the game set a stadium record at the time (over 72,000) and it was one of the coolest atmosphere's I've been in for a game. I've been to big stadiums that were packed, but never to a game that had so many fans from both sides. WVU fans did outnumber UVA fans but there were still 25,000 or more UVA fans. One third of the stadium was a sea of orange, the other two thirds were all yellow. It couldn't have been any more pronounced, I'll have to try to post a picture from that day.
Agreed. For me, who is just a casual college football fan, a lower bowl means nothing, but like your post states, for a UVA/WVU matchup, well that is a HUGE game/bowl for those players, students, fans, alumni etc etc..all who are probably rabid college football fans.
And thanks for that link with "The Walk". Good stuff right there.
LacesOut
December 1st, 2005, 03:10 PM
Speaking of ND, haven't they lost like their last 10 bowl games??? If so, well, uhhhhh, ummmmmmm, that is friggin pathetic!!!
dbackjon
December 1st, 2005, 05:10 PM
You know, you may be onto something though.
The year you refer to was 2000 when ND was 9-2 with one of the losses being to 5-6 Michigan State, the other a 3 point loss to then #1 ranked Nebraska and they headed to the Fiesta Bowl. This year ND is 9-2 with a loss to 5-6 Michigan State and a 3 point loss to #1 USC. Cue the twilight zone music.
Hey, they don't call me the king of inane stats for nothing! :p
That is creepy...
dbackjon
January 11th, 2006, 02:34 PM
:nono: Bookmarked.
Bump.... :)
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