Pre-season polls?

[blitz4]

Are there any pre-season polls out? I know it may be a little early.

[89Hen]

Peter's Weekly Pre-Season is out...

1. Central Arkansas
2. Appalachian St
3. New Hampshire
4. Holy Cross
5. Southern Illinois
6. Villanova
7. Liberty
8. Wofford
9. Weber St
10. Colgate
11. S. Carolina St
12. Eastern Kentucky
13. Northern Iowa
14. Jacksonville St
15. McNeese St
16. Massachusetts
17. Cal-Poly
18. Maine
19. William & Mary
20. UT-Martin
21. Richmond
22. Elon
23. Hofstra
24. S. Dakota St
25. Montana

[mainejeff]

Peter's Weekly Pre-Season is out...

1. Central Arkansas
2. Appalachian St
3. New Hampshire
4. Holy Cross
5. Southern Illinois
6. Villanova
7. Liberty
8. Wofford
9. Weber St
10. Colgate
11. S. Carolina St
12. Eastern Kentucky
13. Northern Iowa
14. Jacksonville St
15. McNeese St
16. Massachusetts
17. Cal-Poly
18. Maine
19. William & Mary
20. UT-Martin
21. Richmond
22. Elon
23. Hofstra
24. S. Dakota St
25. Montana

RED = xconfusedx

[ValleyChamp]

That is a rediculous poll.

[wideright82]

RED = xconfusedx


I don't get what your problem with it is to be honest. I think it is one of the most accurate polls out.

[DLS]

appstate should totally be #1!

this is an outrage. ; )

[danefan]

Peter's Weekly Pre-Season is out...

1. Central Arkansas
2. Appalachian St
3. New Hampshire
4. Holy Cross
5. Southern Illinois
6. Villanova
7. Liberty
8. Wofford
9. Weber St
10. Colgate
11. S. Carolina St
12. Eastern Kentucky
13. Northern Iowa
14. Jacksonville St
15. McNeese St
16. Massachusetts
17. Cal-Poly
18. Maine
19. William & Mary
20. UT-Martin
21. Richmond
22. Elon
23. Hofstra
24. S. Dakota St
25. Montana


WHAT??????WHAT??????



No Albany...??!?!?!?!??!?!?

Ludicrous.


OK - don't you guys miss my typical Monday rant? :D


Honestly, the teams bolded above have no business being in anyone's top 25.

[TexasTerror]

Good ole Pete! Has he really put out a preseason poll? Probably doesn't even know UCA is not eligible for the playoffs which is a violation of his alleged poll rules...

[GannonFan]

I still haven't seen any evidence proving that Pete's Poll is picked entirely at random out of a hat. Until then, I'm going with that theory. xnodx

[mcveyrl]

I still haven't seen any evidence proving that Pete's Poll is picked entirely at random out of a hat. Until then, I'm going with that theory. xnodx

Wait a minute. Are you saying I should cancel the mass screen printing of my "James Madison - Pete's Power Poll 2008 National Champions" t-shirts.

[EagleDawg]

It's easy to look foolish and be ridiculed when you're the first one out on the dance floor. Yet somebody's gotta be first. Maybe the poor guy deserves a little slack until there are a few other polls out to compare his against. Then again we're all Football Fans and in our world there is no such thing as cutting someone some slack. Yeah go ahead and knock the poor guy down and don't help him up either! xlolxxlolxxlolx

[UNHWildCats]

It's easy to look foolish and be ridiculed when you're the first one out on the dance floor. Yet somebody's gotta be first. Maybe the poor guy deserves a little slack until there are a few other polls out to compare his against. Then again we're all Football Fans and in our world there is no such thing as cutting someone some slack. Yeah go ahead and knock the poor guy down and don't help him up either! xlolxxlolxxlolx
well when you cant even wait until most schedules are released to release a poll, you deserve to be ridiculed :p

[EagleDawg]

UNHWildCats - You won't get any argument out of me on that one!

[Eight Legger]

I don't mind ridiculing the guy right now. Does he watch FCS games or did someone just hand him a hat with 120-something scraps of paper in it and he just pulled out 25 and wrote them on a list?

[th0m]

Wait a minute. Are you saying I should cancel the mass screen printing of my "James Madison - Pete's Power Poll 2008 National Champions" t-shirts.

Nah you shouldn't. I'd buy one of those shirts :D Well maybe drop "mass" ;)

[bostonspider]

I do not think that is his actual poll. As I went to his site and there is no 2009 poll. He also always starts the next season with the defending champion as #1. So since UR is listed at 21, I am pretty sure this is fake...

[PantherRob82]

It's easy to look foolish and be ridiculed when you're the first one out on the dance floor. Yet somebody's gotta be first. Maybe the poor guy deserves a little slack until there are a few other polls out to compare his against. Then again we're all Football Fans and in our world there is no such thing as cutting someone some slack. Yeah go ahead and knock the poor guy down and don't help him up either! xlolxxlolxxlolx

His poll is terrible every week or every year. Not an issue of being the first on the dance floor.

[wideright82]

His poll is terrible every week or every year. Not an issue of being the first on the dance floor.


I don't see what is wrong with this poll to be honst. xconfusedx

[BEAR]

Peter's Weekly Pre-Season is out...

1. Central Arkansas
2. Appalachian St
3. New Hampshire
4. Holy Cross
5. Southern Illinois
6. Villanova
7. Liberty
8. Wofford
9. Weber St
10. Colgate
11. S. Carolina St
12. Eastern Kentucky
13. Northern Iowa
14. Jacksonville St
15. McNeese St
16. Massachusetts
17. Cal-Poly
18. Maine
19. William & Mary
20. UT-Martin
21. Richmond
22. Elon
23. Hofstra
24. S. Dakota St
25. Montana

I don't see anything wrong with this poll either..xbeerchugxxlmaox I do think that Montana should #24 not number 25...xrolleyesx Classic. xlolx

[Montanan]

now lets not get all that concerned, this is Peter's Weekly Pre-Season Poll. there's a lot of pre-season weeks left where we'll see some changes in his poll. xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

[already123]

I don't see anything wrong with this poll either..xbeerchugxxlmaox I do think that Montana should #24 not number 25...xrolleyesx Classic. xlolx

hahahaxthumbsupx

[Tribe4SF]

If any of you ever play golf with 89Hen, DO NOT bring your wallet with you!

[JMU Newbill]

Isn't Central Arkansas everyone's sleeper pick to win it all this year??

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

How could he neglect DAYTON?!?!?!

[elon77]

Everyone on here knows it will be Elon # 1 and all the rest scrambling for 2nd. Makes as much sense as anyone else's.xnodx

[PaladinFan]

Any poll should have Richmond at #1. They earned the right to be there until someone beats them.

Not sure what Colgate is doing up there. I like the Raiders, but Furman went up and beat the stuffing out of them at home last season.

[UNHWildCats]

Isn't Central Arkansas everyone's sleeper pick to win it all this year??
there not playoff eligible.

[UCAMonkey]

there not playoff eligible.

UCA cannot even be declared SLC champs even though their games count in the standings. xconfusedx

[UNHWildCats]

UCA cannot even be declared SLC champs even though their games count in the standings. xconfusedx
ya, I think that is completely retarded.

[JMU Newbill]

there not playoff eligible.

Since when does that matter? You think people care about "rules"?

[Kid Dakota]

you can be listed in polls even though your not playoff eligible.

[JMU DUUUKES LAW]

i dont care if thats the first or last preseason poll, its awful. To not put UR #1 is silly, but to leave out JMU of the Top 25 completely is just plain stupid.

[McNeese75]

Isn't Central Arkansas everyone's sleeper pick to win it all this year??

xlolx

[DuckDuckGriz]

Yes - a Montana team that went to the title game and returns the majority of its starters this year (and some that were injured during the playoffs) - at #25 is credible.
:)

[Tribe4SF]

Good grief...some of you still don't get it!xlolx

Pete has not issued a preseason poll. You've all been had by 89Hen!xthumbsupx

[LeopardFan04]

Good grief...some of you still don't get it!xlolx

Pete has not issued a preseason poll. You've all been had by 89Hen!xthumbsupx


xlolx You shouldn't have said anything! The thread would have kept going until the season! xlolx

[Montanan]

Peter's weekly preseason poll. xlolxxnodxxlolx

[ngineer]

While I agree that Randolph's return for a fifth year makes HC a tough favorite to win the PL, I cannot see them in the top 10 preseason, let along #4. Central Arkansas's ineligibility for the playoffs should not make them disqualified to be included in a poll. The question is a subjective listing of who the person thinks are the best teams.

[JMU DUUUKES LAW]

Good grief...some of you still don't get it!xlolx

Pete has not issued a preseason poll. You've all been had by 89Hen!xthumbsupx

xoopsx

[NSUDemon98]

Peter's Weekly Pre-Season is out...

1. Central Arkansas
2. Appalachian St
3. New Hampshire
4. Holy Cross
5. Southern Illinois
6. Villanova
7. Liberty
8. Wofford
9. Weber St
10. Colgate
11. S. Carolina St
12. Eastern Kentucky
13. Northern Iowa
14. Jacksonville St
15. McNeese St
16. Massachusetts
17. Cal-Poly
18. Maine
19. William & Mary
20. UT-Martin
21. Richmond
22. Elon
23. Hofstra
24. S. Dakota St
25. Montana

This poll is more entertaining than when Northwestern St. had the #1 recruiting class a couple of weeks ago. xsmiley_wix

[crusader11]

Obviously this poll is ridiculous, and Holy Cross will probably not sniff the top 10. However, if you look at who HC is bringing back, coupled with a pretty favorable schedule, there is no reason HC could not run the table and go 11-0 before the playoffs come around. You have to play the games, of course, and injuries certainly do happen, but I don't think there is a game on the schedule that you would say HC is not favored in.

Harvard, Lafayette, Colgate, and Northeastern will all be difficult, and traveling to Lehigh scares me a bit, but there is no reason that if Dom is on top of his game for the entire year HC could not run the table.

[Tribe4SF]

xlolx You shouldn't have said anything! The thread would have kept going until the season! xlolx

As you can see, I haven't slowed it down much.xrotatehxxrotatehxxrotatehxxrotatehx

[jmufan999]

PETE IS A FREAKING MORON. he's a pimple-faced 14 year-old kid who goes to star trek conventions.

last year, he had JMU PRESEASON #13... there were NO POLLS ANYWHERE that had us any lower than #2. i forget some of the teams in his top 10, but it was ABSURD. i know Liberty was ranked ahead of us (granted, they had a good season, but they didn't make the playoffs and would have gotten killed if they had). maybe Pete is Dave Coulson? never considered that before. they're both comparable in douche-itude.

[mcveyrl]

Good grief...some of you still don't get it!xlolx

Pete has not issued a preseason poll. You've all been had by 89Hen!xthumbsupx

I was gonna see how far this would go...like you said, though, it hasn't really slowed it down.

What's telling is how many people actually THINK this is Pete's poll.

[Tailbone]

Good grief...some of you still don't get it!xlolx

Pete has not issued a preseason poll. You've all been had by 89Hen!xthumbsupx

Not only has 89 fabricated a "poll" for his own amusement, It appears to be deliberately aimed at baiting Griz fans.

I wager this thread will run at least 2-3 more pages and there will still be those who don't realize that they've been "Punked".

[Tribe4SF]

Not only has 89 fabricated a "poll" for his own amusement, It appears to be deliberately aimed at baiting Griz fans.

I wager this thread will run at least 2-3 more pages and there will still be those who don't realize that they've been "Punked".

xlolx It's not all about you...JMU doesn't even appear on the list.

89 knows where the short fuses are stored.xnodx

[appmaj]

you can be listed in polls even though your not playoff eligible.

SDSU knows that for sure.....

[Bill Hanson]

When do the real pre-season polls come out?

[89Hen]

Good grief...some of you still don't get it!xlolx

Pete has not issued a preseason poll. You've all been had by 89Hen!xthumbsupx
xwhistlex

[CrunchGriz]

The only reason so many were taken in by 89's shenanigans here is that Pete has published so many wacky polls in the past that this one almost looked like one of his.

[R.A.]

This is a year that many MEAC fans are expecting our second place team to gain that elusive at-large bid into the playoffs by one of our assumed top three teams... South Carolina State, Florida A&M, or Bethune- Cookman.

[89Hen]

This is a year that many MEAC fans are expecting our second place team to gain that elusive at-large bid into the playoffs by one of our assumed top three teams... South Carolina State, Florida A&M, or Bethune- Cookman.
What are the OOC schedules of the MEAC? You would need to have some good wins there to warrant an at-large. xpeacex

[danefan]

What are the OOC schedules of the MEAC? You would need to have some good wins there to warrant an at-large. xpeacex
looking at schedules.travisliles.com it looks like a lot of SWAC games.

Noteable OOC:

FAMU @ Miami
Norfolk St. @ W&M
Morgan St. @ Towson
SC St. @ South Carolina
Winston Salem @ UC Davis

FAMU doesn't have the OOC to warrant an at-large. The Miami game is a loss.
Neither does SC State. They have a slightly better chance to beat SC than FAMU over Miami. But assuming a loss to SC, I'm not sure SC State has a strong enough OOC either.
BC has no strong OOC games.

I'm pretty sure, absent some big upsets, that it will only be the AQ from the MEAC again.

[89Hen]

Thanks danefan. BTW, we may be able to add DSU vs the Hens if the rumors are true. :)

[BDKJMU]

PETE IS A FREAKING MORON. he's a pimple-faced 14 year-old kid who goes to star trek conventions.

last year, he had JMU PRESEASON #13... there were NO POLLS ANYWHERE that had us any lower than #2. i forget some of the teams in his top 10, but it was ABSURD. i know Liberty was ranked ahead of us (granted, they had a good season, but they didn't make the playoffs and would have gotten killed if they had). maybe Pete is Dave Coulson? never considered that before. they're both comparable in douche-itude.

xconfusedxxconfusedxxconfusedxCome on 99', JMU was lower than #2 in 4 of the 7 pre season polls I saw besides Pete's.
Phil Steele: #1
AGS: #2
Sporting News: #2
Lindy's #3
Sports Network: #3
Coaches Poll: #3
USA Today #4

Now I agree, Pete is a moron.

[Silenoz]

Yes - a Montana team that went to the title game and returns the majority of its starters this year (and some that were injured during the playoffs) - at #25 is credible.
:)

Below Hofstra too xlolx

I figure this whole thing was a setup for Griz fans!

[Uncle Buck]

Below Hofstra too xlolx

I figure this whole thing was a setup for Griz fans!

Ha ha ha ha, you're awesome! xbowx

Then again, maybe the writer was just annoyed that you backed out of the return game in 2005. Oh wait, you've backed out of a lot of return games so he could be a fan of anyone.

[Bill Hanson]

Below Hofstra too xlolx

I figure this whole thing was a setup for Griz fans!

How long has the Griz been in the top 25. It seems like it has been forever.

[Uncle Buck]

How long has the Griz been in the top 25. It seems like it has been forever.

West Coast bias, and yes, it has been forever. xsmiley_wix

[bluehenbillk]

This is a year that many MEAC fans are expecting our second place team to gain that elusive at-large bid into the playoffs by one of our assumed top three teams... South Carolina State, Florida A&M, or Bethune- Cookman.


xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx Haha, I'm sorry, but I can't help but laugh at that. Until the MEAC could actually win one playoff game in recent memory why embarass themselves twice over.

[dgreco]

i do not hate all 25 teams in it, but it looks like he picked out a possible 25 best teams and hit randomize in a program.

[R.A.]

looking at schedules.travisliles.com it looks like a lot of SWAC games.

Noteable OOC:

FAMU @ Miami
Norfolk St. @ W&M
Morgan St. @ Towson
SC St. @ South Carolina
Winston Salem @ UC Davis


FAMU doesn't have the OOC to warrant an at-large. The Miami game is a loss.
Neither does SC State. They have a slightly better chance to beat SC than FAMU over Miami. But assuming a loss to SC, I'm not sure SC State has a strong enough OOC either.
BC has no strong OOC games.

I'm pretty sure, absent some big upsets, that it will only be the AQ from the MEAC again.

Grambling vs. SCSU

-A win over potential 2009 SWAC Champion Grambling, would be a huge victory for the MEAC.

[R.A.]

xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx Haha, I'm sorry, but I can't help but laugh at that. Until the MEAC could actually win one playoff game in recent memory why embarass themselves twice over.

Get your Pre Season laughs in.

And holla at me during the Post- Season.

[Tribe4SF]

Grambling vs. SCSU

-A win over potential 2009 SWAC Champion Grambling, would be a huge victory for the MEAC.

You're kidding, right? When's the last time the SWAC won a challenge game?

[Syntax Error]

You guys know this is not a real preseason poll right?

[Tribe4SF]

You guys know this is not a real preseason poll right?

Been pointing that out since day one, largely to no avail. Had to rep 89 for this one.xthumbsupx

[R.A.]

You're kidding, right? When's the last time the SWAC won a challenge game?


Their only victory was Southern's defeat of FAMU in 2007.

A win over a potentially Top 25, SWAC Champion, helps the MEAC. The Tigers are the defending SBN HBCU Football Champion.

Defeating Grambling would be a positive victory that any FCS school would be pleased to have on their resume come playoff time.

Debate it all you want, but SCSU's and the MEAC's Strength of Schedule have improved a tad bit more because of Grambling.

[Tribe4SF]

Their only victory was Southern's defeat of FAMU in 2007.

A win over a potentially Top 25, SWAC Champion, helps the MEAC. The Tigers are the defending SBN HBCU Football Champion.

Defeating Grambling would be a positive victory that any FCS school would be pleased to have on their resume come playoff time.

Debate it all you want, but SCSU's and the MEAC's Strength of Schedule have improved a tad bit more because of Grambling.

I would argue that a loss to Grambling will hurt SCSU more than a win will help them. Grambling had a fine season within the SWAC last year, but their most meaningful OOC against Northwestern State resulted in a loss.

[danefan]

Grambling vs. SCSU

-A win over potential 2009 SWAC Champion Grambling, would be a huge victory for the MEAC.

A win over the champion of one of the worst leagues in FCS helps how?

A win over anyone in the SWAC will carry as much weight as a win over the champion of the NEC. If you are relying on that to get in the playoffs, good luck.

[Syntax Error]

A win over the champion of one of the worst leagues in FCS helps how? A win over anyone in the SWAC will carry as much weight as a win over the champion of the NEC...Getting a little thick on trumping the NEC by putting other leagues down, don't ya think?

Final 2008 GPI conference rank:
12. Northeast Conference (65.19)
13. Southwestern Athletic Conference (69.17)
14. Pioneer Football League (73.27)

36. Albany (31.63)
40T. Grambling (33.13)

http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/index.php/2009/01/26/final-2008-gridiron-power-index-gpi-nati?blog=5

xeyebrowx

[danefan]

Getting a little thick on trumping the NEC by putting other leagues down, don't ya think?

Final 2008 GPI conference rank:
12. Northeast Conference (65.19)
13. Southwestern Athletic Conference (69.17)
14. Pioneer Football League (73.27)

36. Albany (31.63)
40T. Grambling (33.13)

http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/index.php/2009/01/26/final-2008-gridiron-power-index-gpi-nati?blog=5

xeyebrowx

No what you posted supports my point.

A win over the SWAC champion is actually not as strong in the GPI's eye as a win over the NEC champ would be.

If you read my post again, I said that wasn't a very strong resume to put your at-large hopes on. That's not exactly trumping the NEC.

[Syntax Error]

No what you posted supports my point.
A win over the SWAC champion is actually not as strong in the GPI's eye as a win over the NEC champ would be.
If you read my post again, I said that wasn't a very strong resume to put your at-large hopes on. That's not exactly trumping the NEC.Actually I was saying (badly I admit) that you put down the SWAC and inserted the NEC in the topic. Same as putting the PFL down in respect to the NEC. Same as slighting the MEAC in respect to the NEC. No need to do that. xpeacex

[PantherRob82]

Get your Pre Season laughs in.

And holla at me during the Post- Season.

Wow...MEAC preseason smack. Unbelievable.

[Montanan]

everyone enjoyed Hen's first "Peter's Weekly Pre-Season Poll", why not come out with a second week? just a thought, Hen. xnodxxlolx

[mikebigg]

You're kidding, right? When's the last time the SWAC won a challenge game?

When the last time your school has even been invited to one?

[Tribe4SF]

When the last time your school has even been invited to one?

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1989, January
William and Mary became the first university to compete in the Epson Ivy Bowl in Yokohama, Japan, defeating a football team comprised of Japanese all-stars, 73-3.

1993, January
The Tribe accepted a second invitation to the Epson Ivy Bowl, defeating Nihon University 35-19.

[R.A.]

Wow...MEAC preseason smack. Unbelievable.

Yeah, and guess what? The Valley's overrated.

[R.A.]

A win over the champion of one of the worst leagues in FCS helps how?

A win over anyone in the SWAC will carry as much weight as a win over the champion of the NEC. If you are relying on that to get in the playoffs, good luck.

Grambling is legit out of conference competition.

Some of you really need to get over yourselves.

[darell1976]

Peter's Weekly Pre-Season is out...

1. Central Arkansas
2. Appalachian St
3. New Hampshire
4. Holy Cross
5. Southern Illinois
6. Villanova
7. Liberty
8. Wofford
9. Weber St
10. Colgate
11. S. Carolina St
12. Eastern Kentucky
13. Northern Iowa
14. Jacksonville St
15. McNeese St
16. Massachusetts
17. Cal-Poly
18. Maine
19. William & Mary
20. UT-Martin
21. Richmond
22. Elon
23. Hofstra
24. S. Dakota St
25. Montana

What no NDSU at #1 or even ranked at all. xeekx xlolx

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Yeah, and guess what? The Valley's overrated.


Try competing in the Valley week in and week out and then make that analysis.

MV schools beat the crap out of each other each week......one of the best FCS conferences.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

What no NDSU at #1 or even ranked at all. xeekx xlolx


UND not in there......after their impressive 1st FCS season.....WOW!xlolxxlolx

[darell1976]

UND not in there......after their impressive 1st FCS season.....WOW!xlolxxlolx

Who cares...we aren't playoff eligible polls don't mean anything to me. Now as for the team that bragged they should have been playoff eligible during their transisition period (they did have some good teams) then choked in their first playoff eligible season you should care a little when it comes to polls.xsmiley_wix

[Purple Pride]

UCA cannot even be declared SLC champs even though their games count in the standings. xconfusedx
Yes, they can be declared the SLC champs. The conference won't do it though because they'd lose their auto-bid for that year.

[89Hen]

Looks like only a couple of changes. UCA hangs on to #1.

Peter's Weekly Pre-Season - Weak Two

1. Central Arkansas
2. Montana St
3. New Hampshire
4. Holy Cross
5. Southern Illinois
6. Villanova
7. Liberty
8. Wofford
9. Weber St
10. Lehigh
11. Appalachian St
12. Eastern Kentucky
13. Northern Iowa
14. Tennessee St
15. Northwestern St
16. Massachusetts
17. Cal-Poly
18. Drake
19. San Diego
20. UT-Martin
21. Rhode Island
22. Elon
23. Brown
24. S. Dakota St
25. Montana

[Montanan]

just drove thru Bozeman, MT and they were celebrating in the streets while putting up street banners displaying Peter's latest poll results! they love ya man!

Go Cats!

sure relieved to see the Griz back in the top 25!

[dgreco]

reading this after another week, this guy is crazy. I mean he has zero creditbility.

[Montanan]

reading this after another week, this guy is crazy. I mean he has zero creditbility.

sure, Holy Cross @ #4 is a bit of a streach, but where else, why? please elaborate.

[Eight Legger]

Looks like only a couple of changes. UCA hangs on to #1.

Peter's Weekly Pre-Season - Weak Two

1. Central Arkansas
2. Montana St
3. New Hampshire
4. Holy Cross
5. Southern Illinois
6. Villanova
7. Liberty
8. Wofford
9. Weber St
10. Lehigh
11. Appalachian St
12. Eastern Kentucky
13. Northern Iowa
14. Tennessee St
15. Northwestern St
16. Massachusetts
17. Cal-Poly
18. Drake
19. San Diego
20. UT-Martin
21. Rhode Island
22. Elon
23. Brown
24. S. Dakota St
25. Montana

HAHAHAHAHA. The defending national champions return with a senior QB, the entire WR corps and a great defense, and don't make the top 25. Riiiiiiight.

[jaxstatealum]

reading this after another week, this guy is crazy. I mean he has zero creditbility.

Nail on the head!! xthumbsupx

[bostonspider]

Why are you all still talking about 89Hen's faux poll? He did Wk1 and Wk2 just to get our collective goats....

[89Hen]

HAHAHAHAHA. The defending national champions return with a senior QB, the entire WR corps and a great defense, and don't make the top 25. Riiiiiiight.
They'll be lucky to make the top 25 of CAA teams. :p

[Montanan]

might want to rethink Elon @ 22:
according to Enard Headman, ESPN's new FCS feature columnist, Elon is expected to be a top 5 team throughout 2009 based solely on the immediate impact of 2009 recruit ironman athlete Jarrod Beal, 6'9",340 lbs (40 - 4.38), recruited to play WR, RB, kick/punt returner and safety, probably the single most visibly valuable impact player to have ever been recruited by a SoCon School, or for that matter, all of FCS. xnodx

[saccat]

just drove thru Bozeman, MT and they were celebrating in the streets while putting up street banners displaying Peter's latest poll results! they love ya man!

Go Cats!

sure relieved to see the Griz back in the top 25!

I just drove through and didn't see any signs at all. You sir know nothing of our town.

[DLS]

might want to rethink Elon @ 22:
according to Enard Headman, ESPN's new FCS feature columnist, Elon is expected to be a top 5 team throughout 2009 based solely on the immediate impact of 2009 recruit ironman athlete Jarrod Beal, 6'9",340 lbs (40 - 4.38), recruited to play WR, RB, kick/punt returner and safety, probably the single most visibly valuable impact player to have ever been recruited by a SoCon School, or for that matter, all of FCS. xnodx

sounds more like someone you'd find in the nfl in 2109.

[Reign of Terrier]

might want to rethink Elon @ 22:
according to Enard Headman, ESPN's new FCS feature columnist, Elon is expected to be a top 5 team throughout 2009 based solely on the immediate impact of 2009 recruit ironman athlete Jarrod Beal, 6'9",340 lbs (40 - 4.38), recruited to play WR, RB, kick/punt returner and safety, probably the single most visibly valuable impact player to have ever been recruited by a SoCon School, or for that matter, all of FCS. xnodx

I'd agree with Elon being a top 5 team...BTW post a link to that "FCS columnist"

[Native]

Peter's Weekly Pre-Season is out...

1. Central Arkansas
2. Appalachian St
3. New Hampshire
4. Holy Cross
5. Southern Illinois
6. Villanova
7. Liberty
8. Wofford
9. Weber St
10. Colgate
11. S. Carolina St
12. Eastern Kentucky
13. Northern Iowa
14. Jacksonville St
15. McNeese St
16. Massachusetts
17. Cal-Poly
18. Maine
19. William & Mary
20. UT-Martin
21. Richmond
22. Elon
23. Hofstra
24. S. Dakota St
25. Montana

Montana #25?!?? xrolleyesx

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[Umass74]

I went to Pete's site and could not find that poll. Does anyone have a link?

[JazzyBulldog05]

It amazes me that people still think this poll is legitxsmiley_wix xlolx

89Hen, xbowx

[Montanan]

sorry to see Richmond fall out of the top 25, I guess the rumor that 3 of their key players will be leaving early for the NFL is true.

[Tribe4SF]

I went to Pete's site and could not find that poll. Does anyone have a link?

In a word......no.

[R3TRO]

Montanan.....xthumbsupx xlolx

[PantherRob82]

Yeah, and guess what? The Valley's overrated.

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[katstrapper]

Central Sooey does not have all everything Nathan Brown at QB anymore. They will be hard pressed to find a comparable QB for 2009.

[TexasTerror]

Central Sooey does not have all everything Nathan Brown at QB anymore. They will be hard pressed to find a comparable QB for 2009.

They do have Nathan Dick - an FBS transfer. No telling how this Nathan will do, but they do have some talent around still and I do not think they are going to fall as much as some think - especially with Conque still on the sidelines.

[Syntax Error]

They do have Nathan Dick...
They just have a few holes to fill. I realize they have stuck it out, but before we erect a pillar to Brown, we must look a head to what stands firmly and pointedly. Dick could be potent and just the column which UCA needs to close the gap.

[PhoenixMan]

might want to rethink Elon @ 22:
according to Enard Headman, ESPN's new FCS feature columnist, Elon is expected to be a top 5 team throughout 2009 based solely on the immediate impact of 2009 recruit ironman athlete Jarrod Beal, 6'9",340 lbs (40 - 4.38), recruited to play WR, RB, kick/punt returner and safety, probably the single most visibly valuable impact player to have ever been recruited by a SoCon School, or for that matter, all of FCS. xnodx

This is BS........Elon should be a top 5 team,but that's based on returners QB Riddle and WR Hudgins. I followed the recruiting closely, don't see any such a beast on the list. The only Beal is Kenton Beal, a punter/kicker. If this is true please send me more info on the mystery recruit.

[Montanan]

This is BS........Elon should be a top 5 team,but that's based on returners QB Riddle and WR Hudgins. I followed the recruiting closely, don't see any such a beast on the list. The only Beal is Kenton Beal, a punter/kicker. If this is true please send me more info on the mystery recruit.


my bad! substitute 11 for 22, S. Carolina St. for Elon and MLB for safety.

[CrunchGriz]

89Hen:

Methinks you'd better stock up on fishing tackle, as you've caused several instances of ingested hooks, lines, and sinkers--some seem to have not only ingested, but digested same.

Please desist, or we'll be up to our eyeballs here in mangled barbs, tangled filament, and pounds of lead shot *****.

[McNeese72]

Even if this is bogus, my question that I have always have had about Pete's Poll, if this is a "poll who does he poll to get it. If no one, it is misnamed because it is just his own personal "rankings" not a poll.


Doc

[BEAR]

Central Sooey, whom we can't beat because our coach can't figure out how to do it, does not have all everything Nathan Brown at QB anymore, and we don't have Red Boner either. They will be hard pressed to find a comparable QB for 2009, because one doesn't exist.


No one at UCA gives a crap, this year especially, if we don't have an awesome record..it's not like we're going to the playoffs anyway. xrulesx Just go to the game, take your blood pressure medicine a few hours before, and enjoy the thing for once. Next year is a new year, new faces, new schemes and most of all, everyone starts out 0-0. xthumbsupx Besides, if I'm making the trip to SHSU for the game, there had better be some grillin' goin' on! xthumbsupxxnodx

[tandemlax]

Single most entertaining thread I've encountered in some time. Can we keep it up until August?

[panther25]

Colgate moving up to the FBS level in 2011 is certainly gonna make them a favorite this year. Look for them to be right around 3 come the 2nd or 3rd week.

[Silenoz]

They just have a few holes to fill. I realize they have stuck it out, but before we erect a pillar to Brown, we must look a head to what stands firmly and pointedly. Dick could be potent and just the column which UCA needs to close the gap.

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So many poorly(?) chosen words

[Silenoz]

MSU at 2, haha. Someone link this thread to egriz so the idiots all start to rabble rabble rabble

[Seawolf97]

This poll isnt legit ?xlolxxlolxxlolx

[ngineer]

Even if this is bogus, my question that I have always have had about Pete's Poll, if this is a "poll who does he poll to get it. If no one, it is misnamed because it is just his own personal "rankings" not a poll.


Doc

Maybe he has multiple personality disorder....;):D

[Montanan]

This poll isnt legit ?xlolxxlolxxlolx

in all sincerity, this poll is as legit as any other weekly pre-season
poll! probably the most highly regarded pre-season weekly poll in all of college football! and ya can take that to the bank! xnodx

[Woody Hayes]

This poll isnt legit ?xlolxxlolxxlolx

There is no way it's legit. NDSU isn't in it!

[R.A.]

Try competing in the Valley week in and week out and then make that analysis.

MV schools beat the crap out of each other each week......one of the best FCS conferences.


We'd love to play the Valley more... especially after we've witnessed mediocre Hampton almost knock off Southen Illinois in Carbondale. A seven point win over a middle of the pack MEAC squad? Oh noxlolxxlolx

[WildCat In The Hat]

Maybe he has multiple personality disorder....;):D


possibly bi-poll-er............................................badu mbump.


xpeacex

[Tribe4SF]

possibly bi-poll-er............................................badu mbump.


xpeacex

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