UNC vs Duke

[PhoenixPhan06]

With the greatest rivalry in all of college basketball set to write another chapter in a long line of great games, what are your thoughts, predictions, all-time favorite memories of the UNC vs Duke game?

[bluehenbillk]

Teams headed in opposite directions right now, UNC wins by double digits.

[PhoenixPhan06]

Jerry Stackhouse going up for the reverse dunk while getting fouled in the process at Cameron is pretty high on my list

[Ivytalk]

My only regret is that both teams can't lose!:p

[PhoenixPhan06]

I like UNC in this one 83-74

[AshevilleApp2]

My only regret is that both teams can't lose!:p

Yeah, they both suck. xnodx

[PhoenixPhan06]

Haha, lots of people drinking from the Haterade cooler this morning!

[appmaj]

Marvin Williams Tip in 2005....heading out to Franklin St shortly thereafter

[appmaj]

I realy like that Tyler Hansborough is 3-0 in Cameron

[Hoyadestroya85]

With the greatest rivalry in all of college basketball set to write another chapter in a long line of great games, what are your thoughts, predictions, all-time favorite memories of the UNC vs Duke game?

i'd say it's the most publicised rivalry.. but you can't slap a "greatest" tag on it. There are several other rivalries that are just as heated.
anyways.. UNC by 12

[appmaj]

i'd say it's the most publicised rivalry.. but you can't slap a "greatest" tag on it. There are several other rivalries that are just as heated.
anyways.. UNC by 12

Such as?????


http://espn.go.com/endofcentury/s/other/bestrivalries.html

[Hoyadestroya85]

The Philadelphia Big 5, Syracuse-Georgetown, Penn-Princeton, Indiana-Purdue

[Thunderstruck84]

There are plenty of big time rivalries in major college basketball but I don't think any of them can compare game for game and team for team with Duke-UNC. That being said, I don't like either of them but I dislike Duke more so Carolina wins 83-78.

FWIW, it's the same as Yanks-Sawx in MLB. Fans from LA, Chicago, St. Louis, Philly, et al may claim it's not the preeminent rivalry in the sport but they know it is.

[PhoenixPhan06]

The Philadelphia Big 5, Syracuse-Georgetown, Penn-Princeton, Indiana-Purdue


Ok, just to be clear. I started this thread about the UNC vs Duke rivalry. UNC. DUKE. I can't believe that I need to defend this game's place on the greatest rivalry list.

I understand the grouping of showdowns that you listed above may be important to you and I'm sure have provided a certain entertainment value over the years. But there is no game, NO GAME bigger than this one when it comes to college basketball!

Imagine someone saying that there was a bigger game in baseball than the Red Sox vs Yankees, a bigger game in college football than Michigan vs Ohio State or a bigger game in pro basketball than the Celtics vs Lakers.

I know you said that the UNC vs Duke game may not be the biggest rivalry but the most publicized. Now, I'm not in the sports media industry, but if a game/rivalry is the most publicized, doesn't that make it the greatest game/rivalry? Afterall, why would a media outlet publicize one rivalry more than another?

[andy7171]

My only regret is that both teams can't lose!:p

I agree. I feel the same way about Yankees-Red Sox.

[bandl]

No matter how this one pans out, I just hope that both teams end their season on a loss losing to a lower seed in March. xthumbsupx

[biggie]

Hoping he^ is wrong on Carolina.

Also hoping the beat down by Clemson on Dook is repeated by Carolina Wed. Carolina will need to be agressive in the paint (including Thompson pulling his head out of his ass) and UNC will have to guard the 3 well (hope for added luck of Dook missing the majority).

[PhoenixPhan06]

Deon's been a bum for a few games now. If he can hit the short jumper, rebound well, collect a few blocks, thats about all you can ask.

It'll be interesting to see the two different styles of play go at each other and how the Duke "bigs" will be able to slow down the trio of Hansbrough, Thompson, and Davis.

Another big key to the game will be how each team shoots the 3. Duke has made a living out there all season and it will be tough for them to excel without success beyond the arc. The Heels have found the stroke as of late, much of it due to Ellington showing everyone what a great shooter he can be. If Ellington, Green, and Lawson are hitting the 3, its gonna be a long night in Durham for the dookies!

[Hoyadestroya85]

Ok, just to be clear. I started this thread about the UNC vs Duke rivalry. UNC. DUKE. I can't believe that I need to defend this game's place on the greatest rivalry list.

I understand the grouping of showdowns that you listed above may be important to you and I'm sure have provided a certain entertainment value over the years. But there is no game, NO GAME bigger than this one when it comes to college basketball!

Imagine someone saying that there was a bigger game in baseball than the Red Sox vs Yankees, a bigger game in college football than Michigan vs Ohio State or a bigger game in pro basketball than the Celtics vs Lakers.

I know you said that the UNC vs Duke game may not be the biggest rivalry but the most publicized. Now, I'm not in the sports media industry, but if a game/rivalry is the most publicized, doesn't that make it the greatest game/rivalry? Afterall, why would a media outlet publicize one rivalry more than another?
the fact that they always play twice a year takes away from it imho

[Hoyadestroya85]

what also takes away from it in my opinion is that demographically and structurally the schools are NOTHING alike..

[bandl]

what also takes away from it in my opinion is that demographically and structurally the schools are NOTHING alike..

IMO, that makes it more appealing...especially given the fact that they are only 8 miles away, close enough for drive-bys and hand grenades xpeacex

[813Jag]

what also takes away from it in my opinion is that demographically and structurally the schools are NOTHING alike..
That's what makes a rivalry, the fact that you don't have much in common with those other losers makes it easier to hate them. I hate Grambling because they're a bunch of country folk from the sticks in North Louisiana. Same thing for the Gators.xlolx

[813Jag]

too bad this guy won't be there:
http://outsports.com/jocktalkblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/speedoguy.jpg

[PhoenixPhan06]

too bad this guy won't be there:
http://outsports.com/jocktalkblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/speedoguy.jpg


Haha, I watched that this morning. I'm glad it was a one time thing because who knows what Cameron would look like today if they let that look slide.

[biggie]

Haha, I watched that this morning. I'm glad it was a one time thing because who knows what Cameron would look like today if they let that look slide.
Actually its been twice so far. I expect a whole lot of pink speedos on the dookies Wed.

[PhoenixPhan06]

Anyone expecting any blood this year? There have been some dandies in the past

[T-Dog]

My plan is to meet my friends Jack and Jim and make a decree than any neighbor of mine that acts like a moron gets a puncintheface. xrulesx

And I'm an equal opportunity puncher. Duke and Carolina fans get equal pain. xthumbsupx

[UNCBears2010]

what also takes away from it in my opinion is that demographically and structurally the schools are NOTHING alike..

That's exactly what makes it a great rivalry. It's the average Joe state school kids against the rich, stuck up, private school pricks.

[LehighFan11]

Go UNC!

Duck Fuke!

[appmaj]

what also takes away from it in my opinion is that demographically and structurally the schools are NOTHING alike..

I have to disagree that makes it better. Rich v Poor, In State v Out of State, etc.

[Ivytalk]

too bad this guy won't be there:
http://outsports.com/jocktalkblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/speedoguy.jpg

Is that the candy-ass Laettner, back for an alumni reach-around?

[chantster]

Anyone expecting any blood this year? There have been some dandies in the past


Duke, Yankees and the Dallas Cowboys.

Three teams I really hate with a passion.

Pycho goes 4-0 in Cameron, Heels in a blowout.

Henderson is a punk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C04fSlYTGzI)

[PhoenixPhan06]

Another classic moment from not too long ago, Danny Green putting his jewels all over Paulus's grill!

[CrackerRiley]

Another classic moment from not too long ago, Danny Green putting his jewels all over Paulus's grill!

The only thing that doesn't make that classic for me is that everyone gets to do that to Paulus...

[appmaj]

http://uncbasketballupdate.com/images/danny_green_dunking_on_greg_paulus.png

http://uncbasketballupdate.com

[gmoney55]

Rich punks go down hard in this one, on their way to another second-round exit!!

[PhoenixPhan06]

http://uncbasketballupdate.com/images/danny_green_dunking_on_greg_paulus.png

http://uncbasketballupdate.com

Haha, Yeah thats the one! That'll teach the dookies to stop trying to take the charge!

xlolxxlolxxlolx
xbowxxbowxxbowx

[chantster]

http://brahsome.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/duke-u-flopping-camp450.jpg

[proasu89]

what also takes away from it in my opinion is that demographically and structurally the schools are NOTHING alike..

That's what makes it GREAT! The nations first public instituition of higher learning vs. the best private New Jersey school in the state of NCxsmiley_wix

[seantaylor]

Go Duke.

[appmaj]

It almost time....Go Heels!

[PhoenixPhan06]

http://brahsome.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/duke-u-flopping-camp450.jpg


Haha! I love it!

[PhoenixPhan06]

Anyone know how much tickets are going for online? I'm sure its a house payment or two

[ASUG8]

That's exactly what makes it a great rivalry. It's the average Joe state school kids against the rich, stuck up, private school pricks.

Don't underestimate UNC's ability to appear elitist. It's a great school, arguably one of the better bangs for the buck when it comes to state universities - but they know it xsmiley_wix

[ASUG8]

That's what makes it GREAT! The nations first public instituition of higher learning vs. the best private New Jersey school in the state of NCxsmiley_wix


I think they prefer the University of New Jersey at Durham. Check out their roster this year - not as NJ dominated as past years, but they only have one kid who played HS ball in NC, and he's from Pennsylvania. It's a Northeastern school with a better climate. ;)

[bluehenbillk]

http://brahsome.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/duke-u-flopping-camp450.jpg

OK, maybe best post ever.

[PhoenixPhan06]

OK, maybe best post ever.

Agreed! I'm sure the flops will be out in full force tonight. I'm gonna predict atleast 4 charge attempts by Duke defenders.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

North Carolina went through the motions for much of the game but still won by double digits. It's been my belief for a few years that Coach K will never win another national title. Tonight was another reason why. He's a great coach but Duke just doesn't have the athletes that the other top 10-15 programs have. If he had UNC's team i don't think they'd lose a game. UNC on the other hand will probably fail to win the title as they seem to lose interest during large sections of the game. This years UNC team reminds me a lot of Williams '97 Kansas squad that lost to Arizona in the Sweet 16.

[Baldy]

WOW!!!

When was the last time Duke gave up over 100 points at Cameron?

Carolina is the team to beat. Their only real weakness is a lackadaisical defense, but their offense is soooo damn good.

[seantaylor]

UCONN is the team to beat along with Pittsburgh and Oklahoma.

[introvertedGSUfan]

UCONN is the team to beat along with Pittsburgh and Oklahoma.

I really would like to see Pitt and UNC make deep runs in this year's tourney. As Go Lehigh TU owl said though, UNC often times has trouble when it comes to big games like Kansas in the Final Four last year.

[Baldy]

UCONN is the team to beat along with Pittsburgh and Oklahoma.

When Carolina plays a full game and doesn't go through the motions (as owl said) no team can stay within 20 points of them, sorry.

[gmoney55]

WOW!!!

When was the last time Duke gave up over 100 points at Cameron?

Carolina is the team to beat. Their only real weakness is a lackadaisical defense, but their offense is soooo damn good.

That's a pretty big weakness....could get exposed if they have to play Oklahoma, UConn, Pitt or Louisville.

And speaking of getting exposed, nice to see the yearly Duke slide in full motion.

[Thunderstruck84]

You could say "If <insert team here> would play a full game like they're capable of, nobody is going to beat them" for 4-6 different teams right now and every year. The bottom line is no one plays "like they're capable of" for all 40 minutes, especially in big games, because the competition is too good. There are a select few exceptions like Villanova against Georgetown in 1985. The team that has the will to win on any given night when the chips are down is the team that will win a tight game come tournament time and you just never know who that team might be in a one and done scenario.

[gmoney55]

You could say "If <insert team here> would play a full game like they're capable of, nobody is going to beat them" for 4-6 different teams right now and every year. The bottom line is no one plays "like they're capable of" for all 40 minutes, especially in big games, because the competition is too good. There are a select few exceptions like Villanova against Georgetown in 1985. The team that has the will to win on any given night when the chips are down is the team that will win a tight game come tournament time and you just never know who that team might be in a one and done scenario.

Very true...and back to the UNC point, maybe they do have more offensive talent than any one. But for the last two seasons, they were knocked out of the NCAAs in a game where they didn't play defense. So they still have to prove they're going to dig in and do it against good teams. As well as they looked at times tonight, they gave up nearly 90 points to a struggling Duke team.

[LehighFan11]

http://brahsome.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/duke-u-flopping-camp450.jpg

Where on earth did you find this? I think I've been waiting my whole life to see this. I'm dying laughing. xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

[813Jag]

You could say "If <insert team here> would play a full game like they're capable of, nobody is going to beat them" for 4-6 different teams right now and every year. The bottom line is no one plays "like they're capable of" for all 40 minutes, especially in big games, because the competition is too good. There are a select few exceptions like Villanova against Georgetown in 1985. The team that has the will to win on any given night when the chips are down is the team that will win a tight game come tournament time and you just never know who that team might be in a one and done scenario.
I agree, the "best" team doesn't always win in tournament games. But this could be the year for the Heels, they've been in some close games and they are winning games on the ROAD, where it really counts. Right now I think everybody else is playing for second.

[Ivytalk]

It was physically painful to listen to Patrick and Vitale last night. What a godawful broadcasting team. Holy cow.xsmhx

[PhoenixPhan06]

WOW!!!

When was the last time Duke gave up over 100 points at Cameron?

Carolina is the team to beat. Their only real weakness is a lackadaisical defense, but their offense is soooo damn good.

I read where UNC did it in '95 when Coach K was on medical leave and before that it was 1983. So lastnight was the first time a Coach K coached Duke team has given up 100 points in Cameron.

Had Duke continued their great shooting in the second half, the game would have been a lot closer. Its incredible that UNC stayed within 10 points at the half the way the Devils were shooting. 67% beyond the arc I beleive. But like Duke has been accustomed to for many years now, they live and die by the three and without the 3 ball falling in the second half, they couldn't score enough inside and their offensive weakness was capitalized by Carolina as they ran away with it late.

Duke's lack of athleticism also spelled their demise as they had NO answer for Ty Lawson down the stretch as he took over the game and shredded the Duke defenders left and right.

With that being said, I'm glad that game's over with and the Heels don't have to play in Cameron for the rest of the year because that is one of if not the hardest palce to play in for a visiting team. Growing up in Durham, I knew that they had no A/C in Cameron for many years and I don't think it was until 2002 that they even had a unit installed. All the area high schools held their graduation ceremonies in Cameron and it was hotter inside than it was outside, and I'm talking early June here! Whether it was intentional or not, the Cameron facilities staff definetly left the A/C off and by the end of the game, it was really taking a toll on both teams (and the floor).

The only thing better than the UNC win lastnight was the sight of the long sad faces of the Cameron crazies after they had camped out for 2 months in the cold just to get tickets.

Go Heels!

[PhoenixPhan06]

It was physically painful to listen to Patrick and Vitale last night. What a godawful broadcasting team. Holy cow.xsmhx

The Raycom (local NC coverage) team wasn't much better either. Anything Raycom touches always seems to turn to crap. Their graphics are outdated and always seem to get in the way of the in-game action. Throw in the 5 commercial rotation during breaks and it makes for a pretty miserable game experience.

Atleast the Heels pulled out a W!

[biggie]

Thompson actually did he job on offense early, him and Frasor were a big help early. Then the D finally started to play in the second half.

Another game, another horrible elbow thrown at Hansborough by a dookie.

[JMU DJ]

Clean version for work... pretty much the same, though there is a pretty funny intro in the dirty version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtJbnQ1Kz98

[JMU Newbill]

Is there any doubt that Ty Lawson is the best point guard in the country? He took over last night. Forget Hansbrough.... piece of crap. Give me Lawson anyday.

[bandl]

Is there any doubt that Ty Lawson is the best point guard in the country? He took over last night. Forget Hansbrough.... piece of crap. Give me Lawson anyday.

But Hansborough has such grit....OOOOOHHHHHHH...he's a warrior's warrior out there on the field....OOOOOHHHHHH....no kid in the history of the world practices as much as that kid......CAN YOU BELIEVE THE HEART OF THAT YOUNG MAN!?!?! OOOOOHHHHHH, HE NAILS THE TRIFECTA!!!!! OOOOHHHHH....I"M TELLING YOU, that kid has it all. He's got talent!! He's got heart! He's got tenacity! He's got grit! He's got such grit. I would make love to that kid I tell you! I would make LOVE to that kid!!! He's got such grit. OOOOOHHHH...He's a keeper.

[813Jag]

But Hansborough has such grit....OOOOOHHHHHHH...he's a warrior's warrior out there on the field....OOOOOHHHHHH....no kid in the history of the world practices as much as that kid......CAN YOU BELIEVE THE HEART OF THAT YOUNG MAN!?!?! OOOOOHHHHHH, HE NAILS THE TRIFECTA!!!!! OOOOHHHHH....I"M TELLING YOU, that kid has it all. He's got talent!! He's got heart! He's got tenacity! He's got grit! He's got such grit. I would make love to that kid I tell you! I would make LOVE to that kid!!! He's got such grit. OOOOOHHHH...He's a keeper.

xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

[ASUG8]

I'm sure Dickie V checked into rehab this morning.....what a homer for the Dookies.xnonono2x

[JMU Newbill]

But Hansborough has such grit....OOOOOHHHHHHH...he's a warrior's warrior out there on the field....OOOOOHHHHHH....no kid in the history of the world practices as much as that kid......CAN YOU BELIEVE THE HEART OF THAT YOUNG MAN!?!?! OOOOOHHHHHH, HE NAILS THE TRIFECTA!!!!! OOOOHHHHH....I"M TELLING YOU, that kid has it all. He's got talent!! He's got heart! He's got tenacity! He's got grit! He's got such grit. I would make love to that kid I tell you! I would make LOVE to that kid!!! He's got such grit. OOOOOHHHH...He's a keeper.

You are in the wrong profession sir.

[appmaj]

But Hansborough has such grit....OOOOOHHHHHHH...he's a warrior's warrior out there on the field....OOOOOHHHHHH....no kid in the history of the world practices as much as that kid......CAN YOU BELIEVE THE HEART OF THAT YOUNG MAN!?!?! OOOOOHHHHHH, HE NAILS THE TRIFECTA!!!!! OOOOHHHHH....I"M TELLING YOU, that kid has it all. He's got talent!! He's got heart! He's got tenacity! He's got grit! He's got such grit. I would make love to that kid I tell you! I would make LOVE to that kid!!! He's got such grit. OOOOOHHHH...He's a keeper.

You should play the Hansbrough drinking game....

Anytime they say the following take a drink:

Tough, works hard, heart, psycho.................

[UNCBears2010]

You should play the Hansbrough drinking game....

Anytime they say the following take a drink:

Tough, works hard, heart, psycho.................

Only one thing could result from that drinking game: Alcohol poisoning.

[bandl]

You should play the Hansbrough drinking game....

Anytime they say the following take a drink:

Tough, works hard, heart, psycho.................

You ever played the Dickie is Bald drinking game? Every time he refers to his baldness, you have to drink a 12 ounce beer. HAMMERED. HAMMERED, JUST HAMMERED. xnodx

[Ivytalk]

But Hansborough has such grit....OOOOOHHHHHHH...he's a warrior's warrior out there on the field....OOOOOHHHHHH....no kid in the history of the world practices as much as that kid......CAN YOU BELIEVE THE HEART OF THAT YOUNG MAN!?!?! OOOOOHHHHHH, HE NAILS THE TRIFECTA!!!!! OOOOHHHHH....I"M TELLING YOU, that kid has it all. He's got talent!! He's got heart! He's got tenacity! He's got grit! He's got such grit. I would make love to that kid I tell you! I would make LOVE to that kid!!! He's got such grit. OOOOOHHHH...He's a keeper.

A Diaper Dandy plus 3! OOOHHH! I'm getting that old feeling!! OOOOOOOHHHHH!!!AAAAUUUGGGHH!!!

[proasu89]

The Raycom (local NC coverage) team wasn't much better either. Anything Raycom touches always seems to turn to crap. Their graphics are outdated and always seem to get in the way of the in-game action. Throw in the 5 commercial rotation during breaks and it makes for a pretty miserable game experience.
Atleast the Heels pulled out a W!

I'm so frickin sick of Alltell and we still have half of Feb. and all of March.xsmhx

[PhoenixPhan06]

I'm so frickin sick of Alltell and we still have half of Feb. and all of March.xsmhx

I never had any issues with the service in central NC while I had it a few years ago, but the commercials HAVE TO GO!!

[biggie]

I never had any issues with the service in central NC while I had it a few years ago, but the commercials HAVE TO GO!!
He was reffering to the Alltel commericals I believe.

And soon it will be all Verizon, since they bought out Alltel.