Mid-Major Top 25

[wkuhillhound]

1. Butler (20) 14-1 763 3
2. St. Mary's (8) 15-1 752 4
3. Gonzaga (3) 10-4 719 2
4. Illinois State 14-2 671 1
5. Davidson 11-3 643 5
6. George Mason 11-3 559 12
7. Siena 12-5 550 6
8. Creighton 13-4 528 7
9. Cleveland State 12-5 526 9
10. College of Charleston 11-3 451 7
11. VMI 13-2 448 13
12. VCU 11-5 402 14
13. Portland State 13-5 373 10
14. Drake 12-4 342 17
15. Middle Tennessee 11-5 324 23
16. Stephen F. Austin 9-4 296 21
17. Evansville 11-4 281 16
18. Wisconsin-Green Bay 11-5 261 18
19. Niagara 13-4 213 20
20. Western Kentucky 10-6 144 11
21. Liberty 11-6 137 15
22. Miami Ohio 8-5 101 19
23. Northeastern 10-5 78 NR
24. Arkansas Little Rock 11-5 74 NR
25. Navy 12-4 67 NR


OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Lamar 64, East Tennessee State 59, Wisconsin-Milwaukee 48, Bradley 43, Rider 25, Belmont 22, Arkansas State 20, San Diego 19, Old Dominion 11, Albany 9, North Dakota State 9, Robert Morris 8, Long Beach State 6, Fairfield 6, American 3, Harvard 3, Texas-San Antonio 3, Weber State 2, Austin Peay 1, Cornell 1, Nicholls State 1, Utah Valley 1, Western Carolina 1, Wright State 1.

Congrats to all FCS teams that made the poll. xthumbsupx

[FargoBison]

Nice to see NDSU picking up votes again!

[crunifan]

When half of your conference is listed during an off year, you know its time to lose the Mid Major label. But, apparently not...

[catamount man]

If we hadn't lost to GW and UNC-Asheville..........xmadx xmadx xmadx

Oh well, if we can knock off Samford and Chatty this week, I think we'll make top 25 next week. I would hope.

GO CATAMOUNTS!!!

[Thunderstruck84]

When half of your conference is listed during an off year, you know its time to lose the Mid Major label. But, apparently not...
xnodx I think the MVC and MWC are on par with C-USA and would be better if it weren't for the 10 ton gorilla that is Memphis. But I think mid-major is used to enconmpass conferences too generally. IMO, conferences like C-USA, the MVC, the MWC, and the A-10 are mid-majors. Whereas conferences like the Summit, Sun Belt, and the SWAC should be considered low majors.

[TexasTerror]

Sun Belt? They were a two-bid league last year.

Would never lump them with Summit and SWAC. The SWAC is the lowest RPI conference in just about every sport. Summit is actually having a strong year, ranked #20 in Sagarin. Not bad...

[WWII]

real Time RPI sunbelt 19, summit 26, swac 32 (last)

[crunifan]

MVC has been ranked 6-8 in RPI conference standings for the last 5 years or so. We've had as many as 4 bids into the tournament. SIU, Wichita State, and Bradley have all gone to the Sweet 16 in the last three years or so. Plus, we have been ranked ahead of the A-10 in conference standings (last year being an exception) for around 5 or 6 years.

The A-10 needs to be considered a mid major. Simple as that. Currently the MWC is 6th, SEC is 7th, MVC is 8th, and A10 is 9th.

[813Jag]

xnodx I think the MVC and MWC are on par with C-USA and would be better if it weren't for the 10 ton gorilla that is Memphis. But I think mid-major is used to enconmpass conferences too generally. IMO, conferences like C-USA, the MVC, the MWC, and the A-10 are mid-majors. Whereas conferences like the Summit, Sun Belt, and the SWAC should be considered low majors.
SWAC = below Major xnonono2x

[813Jag]

real Time RPI sunbelt 19, summit 26, swac 32 (last)
actually the SWAC rates below Florida 1A basketball.

[813Jag]

In case anyone can't tell I hate SWAC basketball right now and I have felt this way for the last 5 years.

[gmoney55]

MVC has been ranked 6-8 in RPI conference standings for the last 5 years or so. We've had as many as 4 bids into the tournament. SIU, Wichita State, and Bradley have all gone to the Sweet 16 in the last three years or so. Plus, we have been ranked ahead of the A-10 in conference standings (last year being an exception) for around 5 or 6 years.

The A-10 needs to be considered a mid major. Simple as that. Currently the MWC is 6th, SEC is 7th, MVC is 8th, and A10 is 9th.

I disagree...I think the Valley needs to get off their a$$ and realize how far they've come and stop being part of things like the Mid-Major poll and BracketBusters. Neither conference should be considered Mid-Major.

[crunifan]

I disagree...I think the Valley needs to get off their a$$ and realize how far they've come and stop being part of things like the Mid-Major poll and BracketBusters. Neither conference should be considered Mid-Major.

The MVC absolutely needs to stop BracketBusters. It actually hurts our conference now. The top three or four teams will play great competition (usually Butler, Nevada, etc.), but the bottom schools get let with schools that kill our conference RPI.

As far as Mid Major is concerned, I can see both sides. MVC, MWC, A10, and CUSA are all on their own level, which is still a notch below the Big Six, but above everyone else.