Pac-10 goes 5-0

[DuckDuckGriz]

In bowls and right now Penn State isn't even in the same league as USC.

Looks like we play some football out here. xcoffeex

[UNHWildCats]

In bowls and right now Penn State isn't even in the same league as USC.

Looks like we play some football out here. xcoffeex
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[I Bleed Purple]

Looks like we play some football out here. xcoffeex

Except when you play the Mountain West.

Remind of their record there this year. I'll even count your bowl win over BYU.

[DuckDuckGriz]

Except when you play the Mountain West.

Remind of their record there this year. I'll even count your bowl win over BYU.

I meant "out here" as in "out west"

It seems the MWC fans are always seeking praise but then don't show up when it counts at the end of the year.

[UNHWildCats]

I meant "out here" as in "out west"

It seems the MWC fans are always seeking praise but then don't show up when it counts at the end of the year.
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[uofmman1122]

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:DRemind me again, when was the last time New Hampshire made it past the quarters?...xconfusedxxlolx:D

[JohnStOnge]

In bowls and right now Penn State isn't even in the same league as USC.

Looks like we play some football out here. xcoffeex

I agree that people who think the Pac 10 is weak are wrong. However, the league did hurt itself with the head to head losses to the Mountain West during the regular season.

Another thing I'll repeat in another thread: I'll never get to because the Bowl system is biased towards teams in more favorable climes, but I'd like to see what would've happened if Penn State and USC had been playing on Penn State's home field today...where the high temperature was 26 F and the winds were gusting up to around 30 mph...instead of on USC's.

That's one big thing about the Rose Bowl. It's basically always a home game for a team like USC. They're playing on their home field under their "home" conditions every time when they play Big 10 schools. I wonder how it'd be if they alternated and held the Rose Bowl in, say, Ann Arbor every other year so that somebody like USC would be playing in upper midwestern weather during January.

[Franks Tanks]

I agree that people who think the Pac 10 is weak are wrong. However, the league did hurt itself with the head to head losses to the Mountain West during the regular season.

Another thing I'll repeat in another thread: I'll never get to because the Bowl system is biased towards teams in more favorable climes, but I'd like to see what would've happened if Penn State and USC had been playing on Penn State's home field today...where the high temperature was 26 F and the winds were gusting up to around 30 mph...instead of on USC's.

That's one big thing about the Rose Bowl. It's basically always a home game for a team like USC. They're playing on their home field under their "home" conditions every time when they play Big 10 schools. I wonder how it'd be if they alternated and held the Rose Bowl in, say, Ann Arbor every other year so that somebody like USC would be playing in upper midwestern weather during January.

That is a solid point. A few teams out there are really at the "next" level this year. I believe that is Florida, USC, Texas and Oklahoma. All of these teams are just fantastic and all of them had the ability to win the NC if luck worked their way. Penn State is right below these truly elite teams and that level seems to also include Alabama, Texas Tech and a few others. The Big 4 however are just really good and anyone outside of them would have suffered a similar fate to USC today.

[TheValleyRaider]

It seems the MWC fans are always seeking praise but then don't show up when it counts at the end of the year.

As opposed to the Pac-10, who only shows up at the end and tries to pretend the rest of it didn't matter ;)

[Gil Dobie]

In bowls and right now Penn State isn't even in the same league as USC.

Looks like we play some football out here. xcoffeex

The Big Ten shouldn't have had a team in the top 10 this year. Penn St was over-rated.

[Franks Tanks]

The Big Ten shouldn't have had a team in the top 10 this year. Penn St was over-rated.

Ya ok, but teams like Utah and Boise State belong in the top 10 much of the year??? Alabama will absolutely crush and run the ball all over the undersize Utah defense. Penn State surpisingly poor today but they still scored more points then anyone else all year againt USC. Alos they are still one of the 10 best teams in the country this year. I challenge you to name 9 teams clearly better then Penn State

[Gil Dobie]

Ya ok, but teams like Utah and Boise State belong in the top 10 much of the year??? Alabama will absolutely crush and run the ball all over the undersize Utah defense. Penn State surpisingly poor today but they still scored more points then anyone else all year againt USC. Alos they are still one of the 10 best teams in the country this year. I challenge you to name 9 teams clearly better then Penn State

The Big 10 doesn't have the over-all team speed that the top 10 teams have. And yes, Boise St and Utah would be pretty decent Big 10 teams this year, probably not top 10 either.

[Franks Tanks]

The Big 10 doesn't have the over-all team speed that the top 10 teams have. And yes, Boise St and Utah would be pretty decent Big 10 teams this year, probably not top 10 either.

That is bunk. You are just repeating what ESPN tells you. The fact is that the Big 10 has a winning record in Bowl games against the suspossed speed conference the SEC. Michigan beat Florida last year. Iowa killed South Carolina and a medicore Michigan State team hung with Georgia pretty good.

[Gil Dobie]

That is bunk. You are just repeating what ESPN tells you. The fact is that the Big 10 has a winning record in Bowl games against the suspossed speed conference the SEC. Michigan beat Florida last year. Iowa killed South Carolina and a medicore Michigan State team hung with Georgia pretty good.

I just watched 4 hours of Lawrence of Arabia, so I missed the ESPN pep rally. Not a big fan of ESPN anyway. Michigan St is the cream of the Big 10 this year with Ohio St and Penn St. South Carolina didn't look very good with all the turnovers to start off the game.

[Poly Pigskin]

I agree that people who think the Pac 10 is weak are wrong. However, the league did hurt itself with the head to head losses to the Mountain West during the regular season.

Another thing I'll repeat in another thread: I'll never get to because the Bowl system is biased towards teams in more favorable climes, but I'd like to see what would've happened if Penn State and USC had been playing on Penn State's home field today...where the high temperature was 26 F and the winds were gusting up to around 30 mph...instead of on USC's.

That's one big thing about the Rose Bowl. It's basically always a home game for a team like USC. They're playing on their home field under their "home" conditions every time when they play Big 10 schools. I wonder how it'd be if they alternated and held the Rose Bowl in, say, Ann Arbor every other year so that somebody like USC would be playing in upper midwestern weather during January.

Oh boo hoo, the Big 10 team has to come out and play in 70 deg weather! What a terrible disadvantage! xconfusedx

[TheValleyRaider]

The Big 10 doesn't have the over-all team speed that the top 10 teams have.

I don't believe that's true at all

No one cares more about speed than the NFL, and the Big 10 still gets its fair share of NFL players. Was Michigan so much slower than Florida last year when they rolled up 500 yards of offense on the Gators in their bowl? Was Ohio State so much slower than Texas in 2006 when the rolled up the Horns in Austin? xtwocentsx

[TheValleyRaider]

Oh boo hoo, the Big 10 team has to come out and play in 70 deg weather! What a terrible disadvantage! xconfusedx

More than you'd think when your team and style is built for more adverse conditions xtwocentsx

[Reign of Terrier]

That is bunk. You are just repeating what ESPN tells you. The fact is that the Big 10 has a winning record in Bowl games against the suspossed speed conference the SEC. Michigan beat Florida last year. Iowa killed South Carolina and a medicore Michigan State team hung with Georgia pretty good.

Medicore? they were 3rd best in the Big 10 and they got zilch against Georgia's defense.

[Franks Tanks]

Medicore? they were 3rd best in the Big 10 and they got zilch against Georgia's defense.

Yes Mediocre. They lost to Ohio State 45-7 and Penn State 49-18. They may have finished 3rd but Iowa was probably the 3rd best Big 10 team by year end.

[Reign of Terrier]

Yes Mediocre. They lost to Ohio State 45-7 and Penn State 49-18. They may have finished 3rd but Iowa was probably the 3rd best Big 10 team by year end.

Georgia still wasn't 100% healthy

[Reign of Terrier]

That is bunk. You are just repeating what ESPN tells you. The fact is that the Big 10 has a winning record in Bowl games against the suspossed speed conference the SEC. Michigan beat Florida last year. Iowa killed South Carolina and a medicore Michigan State team hung with Georgia pretty good.

Living in SC I could see this coming--the team is either really good or really bad and has constant mood swings.

[Franks Tanks]

Georgia still wasn't 100% healthy

I have no idea what your point is. I am saying that Michigan State had trouble moving the ball all year and got killed by the two good teams they played. What team is 100% healthy by the end of the year?? Michigan state wasnt either.

[Cleets]

I agree that people who think the Pac 10 is weak are wrong. However, the league did hurt itself with the head to head losses to the Mountain West during the regular season.

Another thing I'll repeat in another thread: I'll never get to because the Bowl system is biased towards teams in more favorable climes, but I'd like to see what would've happened if Penn State and USC had been playing on Penn State's home field today...where the high temperature was 26 F and the winds were gusting up to around 30 mph...instead of on USC's.

That's one big thing about the Rose Bowl. It's basically always a home game for a team like USC. They're playing on their home field under their "home" conditions every time when they play Big 10 schools. I wonder how it'd be if they alternated and held the Rose Bowl in, say, Ann Arbor every other year so that somebody like USC would be playing in upper midwestern weather during January.

Very much the same way Chattanooga is a home game for the SoCon... xnodx

[Reign of Terrier]

I have no idea what your point is. I am saying that Michigan State had trouble moving the ball all year and got killed by the two good teams they played. What team is 100% healthy by the end of the year?? Michigan state wasnt either.

Georgia had to change around the offensive lineman around constantly to compensate for the injuries (to positions they had not played no less). AJ Greene hurt his groin and was not 100% healthy. The defense was banged up all year and wasn't healthy until the Bowl game (see the 9 points Michigan state actually earned.

The analyists said Georgia would run away with I though were a little too cocky in Stafford and Moreno. When your OL is that bad your expectations can't be too high.

[seantaylor]

Georgia still wasn't 100% healthy

Nobody in the country is 100% healthy. thUGA is the most consistently overrated team in the nation. MSU has absolutely no QB, and hung in there. A bunch of very questionable calls by the zebras for thUGA.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Probably the best team the Pac-10 played in a bowl is the fourth best team in the Big XII.

[Reign of Terrier]

Probably the best team the Pac-10 played in a bowl is the fourth best team in the Big XII.

That's what I was thinking and BTW it was already a given that Ok state didn't have much of a defense. Cal beat a Miami team that was a middle of the pack ACC team. Oregon state beat a decent Pitt team from a weak big East. Arizona beat a BYU team that was destroyed by the only 2 decent teams they played in TCU and Utah.

[LehighFan11]

Big 10 is 0-5 in last 3 years of BCS bowl games. They have ruined the last 2 national championship games. I'm just glad we will have a real national championship game this year.

[UNH_Alum_In_CT]

Big 10 is 0-5 in last 3 years of BCS bowl games. They have ruined the last 2 national championship games. I'm just glad we will have a real national championship game this year.

How can you call this a "real" national championship when Oklahoma was chosen by the point system over a team they lost to on a neutral field? xconfusedx xconfusedx Without a playoff there just isn't a "real" national championship in FBS IMHO.

[TheValleyRaider]

Big 10 is 0-5 in last 3 years of BCS bowl games. They have ruined the last 2 national championship games. I'm just glad we will have a real national championship game this year.

I'll give you last year, but Ohio State was a completely legitimate #1 going into the Title Game the season before. Undefeated, wins over highly-ranked Michigan and defending champ Texas (in Austin), there was no doubt they belonged that year