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JohnStOnge
January 1st, 2009, 11:25 AM
Holy smoke that was ugly!

Leading up to the game some Baton Rouge radio talk show hosts were saying Georgia Tech would have the advantage in motivation. Georgia Tech was excited to be there while it was a disppointing letdown for LSU coming off a BCS championship.

I called in and said 1) I did not expect LSU to be flat because they've been hearing for a month about how much they stink, 2) Georgia Tech fumbles a lot, 3) if Georgia Tech's starting QB gets hurt they're screwed, 4) LSU had a substantial size advantage on LSU offense/Tech defense line of scrimmage so that the Tigers might be able to run the ball right at the Jackets, and 5) LSU's defense stunk against the pass but we didn't know if it wouldn't match up well against the option.

The wild card I didn't figure on is how well LSU's freshman quarterback would play. I foresee a bunch of LSU fans asking, "Why wasn't this guy starting early in the season?"

Of all the things I thought might happen I didn't think LSU's offense being unstoppable thanks largely to that freshman QB making plays like he did would be one of them.

JMU DJ
January 1st, 2009, 11:53 AM
Though this game was overall good for the SEC... it now continues to make the initially over rated Georgia Bulldogs look like crap. UGA allowed GA tech to come back from 16 down at half and stomp all over us. I was at the game, it was pouring rain and sucked sitting in the stands... I left at half to go watch the JMU playoff game thinking UGA had it in the bag. GT getting stomped on by an LSU team having a sub par season only makes that loss look worse... let's hope we can put one together against Mich St today.

JohnStOnge
January 1st, 2009, 12:39 PM
I think a pattern is developing. I think it's looking like LSU under Miles is not who you want to see in a Bowl game. I think LSU played its best game of last season against Ohio State in the BCS championship game and played its best game of this season last night. Here are the Bowl results for LSU under Miles (with the records of the opponents going into the games in parenthesis):

2005-2006 LSU 40, Miami 3 (9-2)
2006-2007 LSU 41, Notre Dame 14 (10-2)
2007-2008 LSU 38, Ohio State 24 (10-1)
2008-2009 LSU 38, Georgia Tech 3 (9-3)

813Jag
January 1st, 2009, 01:27 PM
Les Miles does a great job of getting his teams ready in bowl games.

blueballs
January 1st, 2009, 02:55 PM
Well, at least the Georgia Tech players can enjoy the rings that were given to them to commemorate their victory over the very average-third place in the SEC-missing 19 players with season ending injury-Georgia Bulldogs.

813Jag
January 1st, 2009, 03:21 PM
Well, at least the Georgia Tech can enjoy the rings that were given to them to commorate their victory over the very average-third place in the SEC-missing 19 players with season ending injury-Georgia Bulldogs.
they got rings, seriously? xlolx That's about as bad as Alabama State getting watches for going 6-5 one year. xlolx

Reign of Terrier
January 1st, 2009, 03:26 PM
They said in pregame that GT treated this game like a reward. They didn't practice as hard. For those of us who don't know about the triple option--that kind of screws it up. Secondly GT was down 21-3 before they could blink and we all know the TO doesn't comeback well without big plays, so they were kind of screwed.

Lionsrking
January 1st, 2009, 03:46 PM
Holy smoke that was ugly!

Leading up to the game some Baton Rouge radio talk show hosts were saying Georgia Tech would have the advantage in motivation. Georgia Tech was excited to be there while it was a disppointing letdown for LSU coming off a BCS championship.

I called in and said 1) I did not expect LSU to be flat because they've been hearing for a month about how much they stink, 2) Georgia Tech fumbles a lot, 3) if Georgia Tech's starting QB gets hurt they're screwed, 4) LSU had a substantial size advantage on LSU offense/Tech defense line of scrimmage so that the Tigers might be able to run the ball right at the Jackets, and 5) LSU's defense stunk against the pass but we didn't know if it wouldn't match up well against the option.

The wild card I didn't figure on is how well LSU's freshman quarterback would play. I foresee a bunch of LSU fans asking, "Why wasn't this guy starting early in the season?"

Of all the things I thought might happen I didn't think LSU's offense being unstoppable thanks largely to that freshman QB making plays like he did would be one of them.

I won a handsome "friendly" wager with a couple of my work buddies...got the score wrong but predicted the margin of victory (I predicted 45-10)...I think what most people got caught up in is how LSU played with Jarrett Lee at QB, and what happened with the late-game meltdown at Arkansas...if the LSU team that showed up last night, had played that way during the season, they would be playing Oklahoma next week for the BCS title...the month off and the opportunity to groom Jordan Jefferson as the starter, made a world of difference, not to mention they had time to get healthy and scheme the triple option...I would never bet against a Les Miles coached LSU team with a month to prepare...the track record speaks for itself.

JohnStOnge
January 1st, 2009, 03:53 PM
They said in pregame that GT treated this game like a reward. They didn't practice as hard. For those of us who don't know about the triple option--that kind of screws it up. Secondly GT was down 21-3 before they could blink and we all know the TO doesn't comeback well without big plays, so they were kind of screwed.

Don't know if that's it but I do think Georgia Tech was very sloppy early, made a lot of mistakes, and got itself into a big hole early. Also that on side call kick by LSU was big.

LSU scored to go up 14-3 then kicked that onside kick. Georgia Tech held but then fumbled to punt to LSU at the Tech 19. LSU scored to make it 21-3. Then Georgia Tech got the ball back and tried a fake punt on 4th and 8 from its own 22. The resulted in LSU getting the ball at the Tech 24 and scoring again to make it 28-3.

That, basically, was it. I think the dam basically started breaking when that Georgia Tech guy fumbled the punt. Two quick short-field TDs later it was basically over unless LSU made a bunch of mistakes to let Tech back in and they didn't do that.

FCS_pwns_FBS
January 1st, 2009, 04:01 PM
November 4, 2000
Furman 45
GSU 10
xoopsx xoopsx

GSU had just clinched the Socon Championship by beating East Tennessee State. We were defending national champs and were looking at a top-2 seed and possibly 3 home games before Chatty until that debacle of a game.

PJ is making me eat my words I said of him on this board earlier this season. Sometimes I think that he thinks it's just better to let opponents knock sense into his team when they get overconfident rather than trying to knock them back into the team himself. that 45-10 is still the largest marigin of defeat by any GSU team (to an FCS/I-AA team), including the Stowers and VanGoob years.

brownbear
January 1st, 2009, 04:52 PM
PJ's teams haven't lost by 35 or more points since 2002, Johnson's first year at Navy, who went 2-10 that year (coming off an 0-11 year). That year, Navy lost to UConn 38-0, Air Force 48-7, and NC State 65-19.

The 45-10 GSU loss to Furman is PJ's only other loss by 35 or more points.

blueballs
January 1st, 2009, 05:05 PM
November 4, 2000
Furman 45
GSU 10
xoopsx xoopsx

GSU had just clinched the Socon Championship by beating East Tennessee State. We were defending national champs and were looking at a top-2 seed and possibly 3 home games before Chatty until that debacle of a game.

PJ is making me eat my words I said of him on this board earlier this season. Sometimes I think that he thinks it's just better to let opponents knock sense into his team when they get overconfident rather than trying to knock them back into the team himself. that 45-10 is still the largest marigin of defeat by any GSU team (to an FCS/I-AA team), including the Stowers and VanGoob years.

I wish that was true... Montana defeated GSU 45-0 in Missoula in the 1995 playoffs.

The 2000 GSU/FU contest was an interesting one... FU broke open a tight game with an incredible second half. I wonder if some of the FU folks would say that was their best half ever, outscoring the eventual national champ 35-3 in the second half. Louis Ivory's second half that day was one of the greatest performances ever by a !-AA running back.

McNeese75
January 1st, 2009, 08:49 PM
Miles does a great job with Bowl games but I think a big factor last night was the prep time LSU had for the game. Getting ready to stop the option offense over a month is a lot different than trying to regroup in a week.

JohnStOnge
January 1st, 2009, 10:46 PM
Miles does a great job with Bowl games but I think a big factor last night was the prep time LSU had for the game. Getting ready to stop the option offense over a month is a lot different than trying to regroup in a week.

True. But it sure didn't help Florida in 1996 (after the 1995 season). Didn't help too any other SEC teams when they had to play Bowl games against Nebraska during the Osborne era either.

Reign of Terrier
January 2nd, 2009, 12:23 AM
True. But it sure didn't help Florida in 1996 (after the 1995 season). Didn't help too any other SEC teams when they had to play Bowl games against Nebraska during the Osborne era either.

I don't think Nebraska treated the national championship game as a "reward" as Paul Johnson did.

813Jag
January 2nd, 2009, 08:21 AM
True. But it sure didn't help Florida in 1996 (after the 1995 season). Didn't help too any other SEC teams when they had to play Bowl games against Nebraska during the Osborne era either.
Not an excuse for the Gators but their coaches said they took the team to Tempe too early to have fun for the game. The next year they went to New Orleans alot later and were all business, hence the whipping of my Noles. Not saying different prep would have helped against Nebraska.

OL FU
January 2nd, 2009, 08:24 AM
I wish that was true... Montana defeated GSU 45-0 in Missoula in the 1995 playoffs.

The 2000 GSU/FU contest was an interesting one... FU broke open a tight game with an incredible second half. I wonder if some of the FU folks would say that was their best half ever, outscoring the eventual national champ 35-3 in the second half. Louis Ivory's second half that day was one of the greatest performances ever by a !-AA running back.

It would certainly rank near the top. xnodx

furpal87
January 2nd, 2009, 11:14 AM
I was at the 45-10 game, yes it was 10-7 at half. I also remember AP not playing that day, and Ivory felt he wanted to give him a show, and he did 302 yards that day!