Lehigh-Lafayette Game Thread

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Captains on the field for coin toss

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Lehigh won the toss and deferred

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Lehigh kicks off, Justin Musiek (http://www.lehighsports.com/sports/football/rosters/displayPlayer.asp?PLAYER_ID=2715)

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Kick-off goes out of bounds. Lafayette starts at own 35

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Lafayette first pass incomplete

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3 and out. Lafayette to punt after 3 downs resulted in a loss

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Lehigh returns punt to Lafayette 30 yard Line. 40 Yard return Greg Petrosky (http://www.lehighsports.com/sports/football/rosters/displayPlayer.asp?PLAYER_ID=2637)

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Sedale Threatt (http://www.lehighsports.com/sports/football/rosters/displayPlayer.asp?PLAYER_ID=2721) (QB) 21 yard run to Lafayette 10. 1st and Goal

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Eric Rath (http://www.lehighsports.com/sports/football/rosters/displayPlayer.asp?PLAYER_ID=2718), runs to Lafayette 6, 2nd and goal

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5 yard penalty on Lehigh, 2nd and goal. Gerran Walker (http://www.lehighsports.com/sports/football/rosters/displayPlayer.asp?PLAYER_ID=2624) catches ball and return to line and scrimage.
3rd and goal

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Rath makes 1 handed catch but, not enough. Lehigh force to kick a field goal

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Musiek, misses 26 yard field goal

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Lafayette, starts 2nd drive on own 20

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Another incomplete pass. 3rd and 10 for Lafayette

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Motion penalty again Lafayette. Lafayette player Maurer down and out of game.

Lafayette punts, Brawl breaks out.

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Lehigh refuses penalty starts on Lafayette's 46

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3rd and 8 for Lehigh on 1st posession of 2nd drive

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3 and out. Penalty on Lehigh, Lafayette declines. Lehigh forced to punt

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Lafayette to start at their own 20.
Brad Maurer, Lafayette QB separated shoulder on previous offensive drive he is done for the day. Backup QB Pat Davis to start

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Interception Lehigh, Brannan Thomas (http://www.lehighsports.com/sports/football/rosters/displayPlayer.asp?PLAYER_ID=2640)

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Incomplete pass. 3 and out, Lehigh to punt

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Jason Leo (http://www.lehighsports.com/sports/football/rosters/displayPlayer.asp?PLAYER_ID=2762), punts again, into the end zone, Lafayette to start at their own 20 again...

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3 and out Lafayette... after several incomplete passes

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3 and out, Lehigh. Leo punts to Lafayette 15

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Hertz made a 67 yard run for Lafayette. Lafayette on Lehigh 27

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Lehighs, Josh Cooney (http://www.lehighsports.com/sports/football/rosters/displayPlayer.asp?PLAYER_ID=2677) sacked Lafayette QB. Lafayette 4 and 14 to go for it

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Incomplete pass. Lehigh takes over on downs

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3 and out Lehigh

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Bad snap. Blocked punt. Lafayette takes over on Lehigh 5. 1st and goal Lafayette

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TD Lafayette, Archie Fisher
Lafayette 7, Lehigh 0

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End of first quarter

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Harvard 3, Yale 0 end of 1st
Colgate 14, Georgetown 0 End of 1st

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Lehigh slowly moves the ball down the field, into the red zone

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Lehigh to attempt 2nd Field Goal. Leo to kick

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Kick good.

Lafayette 7
Lehigh 3

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Lafayette fumbles on Kickoff. Lehigh recovers. Umpires changed there mind and says Lafayette recovers

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3 and out Lafayette

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3 and out Lehigh

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Lafayette kicks 45 yard field goal

Lafayette 10
Lehigh 3

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Interception Lafayette

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Sedale Threatt hurt, 3rd string QB in

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half time.
Lafayette 10
Lehigh 3

[colgate13]

Sounds like an interesting game! I wish I didn't have to pay or I would be watching online...

Both QB's are out. LC has got to like their chances with senior Pat Davis. Who's backing up Threatt?

[umassfan]

half time.
Lafayette 10
Lehigh 3
If Laf wins today... who wins the Auto bid?

[*****]

If Laf wins today... who wins the Auto bid?Automatic Qualifier Conference Playoff Scenarios
http://i-aa.org/article.asp?articleid=74313

...PATRIOT LEAGUE
A Lehigh victory clinches the League's automatic berth into the Division I-AA playoffs for the Mountain Hawks. A Lafayette win, coupled with a Colgate loss at Georgetown, will send the Leopards to the playoffs. If Lafayette defeats Lehigh and Colgate beats Georgetown, the Raiders will earn the automatic bid. ...

[RichH]

Mike Probst jr the JV qb very little experience, big and strong ,strong arm but pretty immobile. Against LC s D ,if Threatt out ,LC has big edge in the 2nd half. Doesn't bode well for either team for playoffs with qbs out.

[umassfan]

Automatic Qualifier Conference Playoff Scenarios
http://i-aa.org/article.asp?articleid=74313

...PATRIOT LEAGUE
A Lehigh victory clinches the League's automatic berth into the Division I-AA playoffs for the Mountain Hawks. A Lafayette win, coupled with a Colgate loss at Georgetown, will send the Leopards to the playoffs. If Lafayette defeats Lehigh and Colgate beats Georgetown, the Raiders will earn the automatic bid. A Lehigh victory clinches the Patriot League's automatic berth into the Division I-AA playoffs for the Mountain Hawks. A Lafayette win, coupled with a Colgate loss at Georgetown, will send the Leopards to the playoffs. If Lafayette defeats Lehigh and Colgate beats Georgetown, the Raiders will earn the automatic bid. ...
Thanks ralph... Did you post it twice so incase i couldnt understand the first time i could reread it in the quote ;)

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2nd Half so far
Threatt back at Helm in second half.
Lehigh 3 and Out
Lehigh Intercepts lafayette
Lehigh scores a field goal

Lafayette 10
Lehigh 6

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Sounds like an interesting game! I wish I didn't have to pay or I would be watching online...

Both QB's are out. LC has got to like their chances with senior Pat Davis. Who's backing up Threatt?

1st month subscription if free, you still have to sign-up with a credit card but you can always cancel after the game.

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Geran Walker scores 79 yard Touch Down, on a short screen pass
EP good.
Lehigh 13
Lafayette 10

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Lafayette moving down the field with a combination of short passes and running

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Lafeyette fumbles, Lehigh recovers, but confusing call. 1 umpire says Lehigh ball, another says incomplete pass. TV replay?

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play ruled incomplete, Lafayette keeps the ball. Lafayette punts

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Momentum Swing, Lehigh rolling

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Interception Lafayette?

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Holding call, Lehigh keeps ball. 10 yard penalty on Lafayette, automatic 1st down Lehigh on Lafayette 34 yard line

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Lehigh 16
Lafayette 10

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Lehigh rolling again
4th Quarter

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Lehigh fumbles. Lehigh recovers. Lehigh at Lafayette 21

[colgate13]

Colgate gave up the shut out in the last minute with the back ups. Otherwise we roll 34-7 unless something happens...

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Field goal Lehigh.
Lehigh 19
Lafayette 10

Leo kicking all field goals after Musciek missed 1st one

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Colgate's chances for the autobid are fading away. I would put Colgate changes at about 20% right now

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Lafayette fumbles on kickoff return. Lehigh almost recovers

[colgate13]

How much time?

UMass is losing, that might help us...

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Tripple past Lafayette, complete
2 lateral and 1 down field for a 1st down

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Lafayette rolling

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8:43 left in 4th Quarter

[colgate13]

Lafayette rolling

Keep that coming! :p

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1st and Goal Lafayette on Lehigh 2

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TD lafayette

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EP good.
Lehigh 19
Lafayette 17

[colgate13]

HOLY TOLEDO!!!!!!!!

[colgate13]

time?

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Geran Walker return Kick-off to 41 yard Line

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I cannot see the time on the screen

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under 7 minutes to play. Lehigh moving

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Lehigh on Lafayette 42, 2nd and 6

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Loss of 4, 3rd and 10 Lehigh

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Threatt fumbles, Lafayette recovers

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Lafayette gets ball on Lehigh 36

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2nd and 10 Lafayette... under 5 minutes to play

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3rd and 5 Lafayette, in field goal range

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4th and 5 at Lehigh 31

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Lafayette to attempt 49 yard fieldgoal

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Motion penalty on Lafayette, 5 yards

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Lafayette offence comes back in going for 10 yards on 4th

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Incomplete pass, Lehigh offence on field

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Time? 4:10 left

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Lehigh running. 2nd and 6

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3:26 incomplete pass 3 and 6

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1st down Lehigh on Lafayette 48

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3:00 left

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2nd and 12 Lehigh

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2:25
3rd and 8
time out Lafayette

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Lehigh 19
Lafayette 17
Lehigh has ball

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incomplete pass. 2:11 left

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Lehigh to punt

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2:04 left. Lfayette to start on own 10

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Leo doing all the kicking for Lehigh

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AGS has a 1 message per 15 seconds rule

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Complete pass, 18 yard game, 1st down Lafayette on 30 yard line

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1:58 left

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Ground ball Lafayette, loss of down

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3rd and 8, 1:40 left

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1st down Lafayette

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2nd and 10 on lafayette own 41, 1:15 left

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Incomplete pass: 3rd and 10

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Lafayette on Lehigh 38th damn..

[colgate13]

I officially have no nails left.

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55 seconds left

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3rd and 10

[colgate13]

next post: time and timeouts left. LC has two? and what, like a minute or 40 seconds left?

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Colgate chances of auto bid up to 70%

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incomplete, 4th and 10 from Lehigh 40

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Lafayette field goal unit on field

[umassfan]

Lafayette field goal unit on field
For a 57 yard fg?

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46 seconds left.

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Time out Lehigh, trying to wait out wind that is blowing in Lafayette's favor

[colgate13]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[*****]

TD pass Laf

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Lafayette change mind going for it on 4th and 10

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Lafayette wins

[colgate13]

HOLY COW ARE YOU SERIOUS!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!

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Colgate is in

[colgate13]

Time and timeouts for LU? WHAT IS GOING ON? MY KINGDOM FOR AN INTERNET VIDEO FEE (for free that is ;) )!!!!

[umassfan]

TD pass Laf
WOW :eek:

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TD Lafayette, 36 seconds to go

[*****]

still seconds left
23-19 Laf

[umassfan]

HOLY COW ARE YOU SERIOUS!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!
Good luck in the playoffs... It looks like both Colgate and Lehigh might make it from the Pat league as we blew it today.

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Lafayette 23
Lehigh 19

[colgate13]

moving past fingernails... onto actual fingers...

[*****]

Lehigh has one TO left

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Lehigh has 38 seconds to score. Lfayette went for 2 but could not make it

[*****]

61 yards to go, 26 seconds left

[slostang]

As long as Lehigh does not take Cal Poly's spot again this year after losing to Lafayette two years in a row with the Patriot tittle on the line.

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33 seconds left. Lehigh returns to 39 yard line

[*****]

61 yds to go 3rd down 20 seconds

[colgate13]

LC defense don't fail me now!

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26 seconds left, 2nd and 10

[*****]

Laf INT... now its really over

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20 seconds, 3 and 10

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Game over

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Time expired
Laf wins 23-19

[colgate13]

Laf INT... now its really over


:hurray: :hurray: :hyped: :hyped: :bow: :bow: :rotateh: :xmas: :beerchug: :beerchug: xsmoochx xsmoochx xbdayx xprost2x

[Maverick]

Looks as if that first round UMass/Lehigh matchup has gone up in flames on both sides.

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Lafayette should get an At-large over Richmond... Lafayette beat 2 teams ranked in the final polls. Richmond beat 0 currently ranked teams

[colgate13]

Lafayette should get an At-large over Richmond... Lafayette beat 2 teams ranked in the final polls. Richmond beat 0 currently ranked teams

They also own a head to head... UMass losing helps too.

[umassfan]

Lafayette should get an At-large over Richmond... Lafayette beat 2 teams ranked in the find polls. Richmond beat 0 currently ranked teams
Are you on crack? Has you noticed Richmonds play as of late... its all about what have you done lately and Richmond lately has been one of the top 3 teams in my eyes. Whoever gets Richmond in round one is in some real trouble.

[SpiritCymbal]

Ok......

So this means that Colgate gets the auto-bid, correct? Is Lehigh an at-large team or are they out?

[umassfan]

They also own a head to head... UMass losing helps too.
Head to head that was played how long ago and what has changed since then? Oh yes Tutt is now the QB...

[umassfan]

Ok......

So this means that Colgate gets the auto-bid, correct? Is Lehigh an at-large team or are they out?
It would depend on how the days events unfolded but right now Id say they look on the edge.. could go either way.

[*****]

Lafayette should get an At-large over Richmond... Lafayette beat 2 teams ranked in the final polls. Richmond beat 0 currently ranked teamsFinal regular season polls and GPI come out Monday.

[FlyBoy8]

Lafayette and Richmond both get in.

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Are you on crack? Has you noticed Richmonds play as of late... its all about what have you done lately and Richmond lately has been one of the top 3 teams in my eyes. Whoever gets Richmond in round one is in some real trouble.
Lafayette and Richmond has identical records. Lafayette beat Richmond and Lehigh, who will both be ranked. Richmond has not beaten any opponents that will be ranked tommorow

[*****]

Is Lehigh an at-large team or are they out?Bubble, same as Lafayette.

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Selection is tommorow, what comes out Monday will have no effect

[ColgatePA]

Who and where does it look like Colgate will play?

[umassfan]

Who and where does it look like Colgate will play?
Colgate will be at UNH for round 1...

[*****]

Selection is tommorow, what comes out Monday will have no effectRegardless, the final ones come out Monday.

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Montana is losing, that means Lehigh is out

[Lehigh1995]

Folks- I have been a lurker for a long time here and never posted. I just have to say that after this terrible loss, I really am convinced that Lembo is the most overrated coach in football. I know he has a great record and that Lehigh wins 8+ games every year. Yet in the big, elimination-type games, it never ceases to amaze how terrible his gameplan is, and his clock management skills are atrocious.

Nods to Lafayette for hanging in there and winning on a broken play, but I put much blame on Lembo. They did an awful job of eating the clock when they had the ball with a 2-point lead late in the game.

Would it kill him to come out in a real running formation and pound the ball? What is it with this constant love for the Shotgun? Lehigh never established any running game and became one-dimensional. Threatt may turn out to be a decent QB, but he needs to learn to sit in the pocket and let his receivers run their routes. He is too quick to run, and he looked SLOW today.

Anyway, I know many of you will tell me I am nuts, but I needed to vent. When I'm in a more level state of mind, I'll come back and revisit this.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see if the PL gets 2 this year with Colgate & Lafeyette.

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Coastal game is in over time, looks like Coastal could be out too, that should help the PL get 3 in :)

[umassfan]

Richmond has one loss since Tutt has became QB and that was to I-A Vandy. The committee will look at that and make the easy choice... plus there is no way the A10 will not get 2 teams in... Richmond will travel to Hampton in round 1.

[umassfan]

Coastal game is in over time, looks like Coastal could be out too, that should help the PL get 3 in :)
I cant see the Pat league getting three... one of the three will be sitting home. Which one... Im not sure... could be Lehigh due to their loss vs Laf today.

[btuttler23]

LU is out. LC is out. Colgate off to the slaughter at UNH.

Sad day.

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Lets hope for a Texas State loss today.

[colgate13]

LC should go before LU. Same record, head to head is LC.

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An SIU loss will help too

[colgate13]

LU is out. LC is out. Colgate off to the slaughter at UNH.

Sad day.

OK. :rolleyes:

I think this Raider team has the potential to win a game or so in these playoffs, even if it is at UNH. If we play our type of game and not a shootout like we did against Lehigh, I like our chances. UNH doesn't have a stellar defense.

But first, we have to get the game. I can see Lafayette getting at-large and getting sent to UNH. Colgate off to... App. St.?

[ChickenMan]

OK. :rolleyes:

I think this Raider team has the potential to win a game or so in these playoffs, even if it is at UNH. If we play our type of game and not a shootout like we did against Lehigh, I like our chances. UNH doesn't have a stellar defense.

But first, we have to get the game. I can see Lafayette getting at-large and getting sent to UNH. Colgate off to... App. St.?


I don't think you can score enough (35+) to beat UNH... but it looks like you'll probably get your chance.

[colgate13]

I don't think you can score enough (35+) to beat UNH... but it looks like you'll probably get your chance.

If the right Colgate offense shows up, we can beat them.

[ngineer]

Well, I'm back from our 1973 Lambert Cup Team Dinner. Needless to say the mood wasn't as festive as we had hoped. Neither LU or LC played their 'A' games today. Toooooo many mistakes by both teams. The LC td on 4th and 10 was almost like deja vu with the Holy Cross game-you didn't really believe what you were seeing. Blown assignment by soph. corner letting the tb out of the backfield and gettng behind him. Hopefully he won't be scarred from this, but...there are a lot of shaking heads. It was a pretty even match, physically and statistically. LU probably second guessing themselves on calling the time out to 'freeze' the kicker who was lining up for a 55 yarder. LC then changed their mind and threw the hail mary--DT Cooney was hitting Davis' shoulders as he let it fly--fractions of a second it''s a sack.
Congrats to LC--they didn't give up when the momentum had swung over to Lehigh when LU went up 19-10. Threatt had an 'okay' game--he'll be a good one, but missed some wide open receivers today. We couldn't run the ball effectively, which was critical in the last 4 minutes.
As I said on the other thread, it would come down to executing. Both teams were put by their coaches into positions to win the game. Both teams executed poorly at times and Lehigh's miscues resulted in direct points--the final hail mary, and the earlier blocked punt that lead to LC's first TD, which was due to a bad snap from center..
Unless some sort of miracle occurs due to other games, LU is done for the season. I said at the beginning of the year, I expected anywhere from a 8-3 to 10-1 season. LU was 3 stinking plays from 11-0 (Delaware missed kick, Holy Cross immaculate reception, and LC's hail mary). This was a season of lost opportunities. Hopefully the underclassmen learned something this year that you have to be focused for 60 minutes of every game, 'cause one play can break you...
I'll listen in tomorrow for the selection show, but without the same enthusiasm. I'm making reservations for Crapsville--"Hey, Hen, get me a nice table near the stage..."

[hawkineer]

Well, I'm back from our 1973 Lambert Cup Team Dinner. Needless to say the mood wasn't as festive as we had hoped.
As that great American, Jerry Seinfeld, once said, "That's a shame". But at least Lembo runs a class operation, which is probably better than winning Lambert Cups anyway :cool:

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Geez. I think I take a different take from all he other folks on here. I'm not mad at Lembo, mad at Sedale, or the soph who got burned for the TD. I'm just devastated in general. We should have won the game. We weren't outcoached. We weren't overwhelmed wih a team with superior talent. We lost on a busted play. No amount of coaching could have changed that. And two of our losses this year were on busted plays. Bounces. That's football.

Sedale's hail mary, from my vantagepoint on the field, looked like it hit the ground and was not intercepted - IMO that was a bad call.

Other than that, I don't know what to say. I'm still not sure what to say in my I-AA diary. Personally I'm just devastated.

[hawkineer]

Geez. I think I take a different take from all he other folks on here. I'm not mad at Lembo, mad at Sedale, or the soph who got burned for the TD. I'm just devastated in general. We should have won the game. We weren't outcoached. We weren't overwhelmed wih a team with superior talent. We lost on a busted play. No amount of coaching could have changed that. And two of our losses this year were on busted plays. Bounces. That's football.

Sedale's hail mary, from my vantagepoint on the field, looked like it hit the ground and was not intercepted - IMO that was a bad call.

Other than that, I don't know what to say. I'm still not sure what to say in my I-AA diary. Personally I'm just devastated.
Hopefully something with a little more thought than Sedale's hail mary hit the ground and was a bad call. Wow, that was obviously the turning point in the game. :mad:
Let me give you some thoughts to ponder for your diary.
Why only rush 4 and not blitz Lafayette during the last drive?
How do you allow anyone to get behind you on a deep ball on 4th and 10?
Why call a timeout when LC is lining up to try a 55 yard field goal? Maybe to let Tavani realize the error of his ways?
Why do you not continue to throw the 4-7 yard outs on your 2nd last drive that LC couldn't stop?
Why do you continue to run 5'-9" Rath and 5'8" Thompson up the middle rather than wide?
Why wait til game 11 to replace Musiek on FGs and PATs?
Why a team with a suspect pass defense tried to sit on leads against HC and LC rather than remain aggessive?
How about explaining why Lembo, who has lost 3 of 4 to LC, is doing a great job?
Nevermind - I'd rather read about how that bad call on the hail mary to the 35 yard line completely turned the season around. :rolleyes:

[ngineer]

Geez. I think I take a different take from all he other folks on here. I'm not mad at Lembo, mad at Sedale, or the soph who got burned for the TD. I'm just devastated in general. We should have won the game. We weren't outcoached. We weren't overwhelmed wih a team with superior talent. We lost on a busted play. No amount of coaching could have changed that. And two of our losses this year were on busted plays. Bounces. That's football.

Sedale's hail mary, from my vantagepoint on the field, looked like it hit the ground and was not intercepted - IMO that was a bad call.

Other than that, I don't know what to say. I'm still not sure what to say in my I-AA diary. Personally I'm just devastated.
I agree LFN. Football is a game of strange bounces at times, and as this year, we didn't get too many go our way. That's the way it goes sometimes. In every game the players were in position to win, and just came up short on three plays. Horribly disappointing. Time to focus on wrestling....

[BigPapi]

these things happen sometimes. Lehigh belongs in the playoffs. It likely wont happen, but they should be in the playoffs. Explosive team.

[hawkineer]

these things happen sometimes. Lehigh belongs in the playoffs. It likely wont happen, but they should be in the playoffs. Explosive team.
You have got to be trying to incite a riot or your oozing sarcasm or your Pete Lembo trying to save your job 'cause you can't be serious. In any case, LU will be home eating turkey.

[lugo02]

You have got to be trying to incite a riot or your oozing sarcasm or your Pete Lembo trying to save your job 'cause you can't be serious. In any case, LU will be home eating turkey.

hawkineer you seem to harbor a great dislike of Pete Limbo.
Any personal history with him?

I believe your dislike of Lembo is the reason why you don't want LU to get in.
Why do you have such a hatred for the man?

[BigPapi]

I posted before the game that I liked Lafayette to win outright.

I am posting now that I believe Lehigh is a good enough team to belong in the playoffs. No sarcasm in that.

[kardplayer]

You have got to be trying to incite a riot or your oozing sarcasm or your Pete Lembo trying to save your job 'cause you can't be serious. In any case, LU will be home eating turkey.

I vote "oozing sarcasm" - BP isn't a Lehigh fan

[hawkineer]

hawkineer you seem to harbor a great dislike of Pete Limbo.
Any personal history with him?

I believe your dislike of Lembo is the reason why you don't want LU to get in.
Why do you have such a hatred for the man?
Because I have a deep passion for this program and have for over almost 30 years. I have followed this team everywhere for the last 15 years.

Hatred is probably too strong. Contempt, despise, scorn, disdain, maybe. :mad: He was handed a up and coming national program on a silver platter from Higgins and in 4 short years has won 1 league title, has had 1 playoff appearance and is 1-3 against LC (I discount 2001 since that was still Higgins team).

I watched his team blow a 14 point lead in Delaware, a 10 point lead in a monsoon against HC, and a 9 point lead today. This year and in the past, he has not been able to win the "big game".

No one wanted to be sitting at a playoff game more than me. However, objectively no PL deserves an at-large bid this year. I said this earlier in the week whether it was going to be LU, LC, or CU.

[blackfordpu]

SportsCenter is all over this game. Great exposure for the teams and I-AA. :)

[RichH]

Bounces do go in many ways but increased expectations bring greater disappointment. no It is not all Lembo's fault or the DB for missing his coverage or the OC for shutting down the O in the 4th period. BUT I am so tired of ALMOST or but we only lost to "fill in the blank" by 1 point. Yesterday I was devastated by another almost. 3 times this year we came into the 4th period with leads and couldn't win.