4th Place CAA team wins NC!!!

[andy7171]

...but but but they didn't even play New Hampshire, Northeastern or Rhode Island!!!!



WTG Richmond!

[93henfan]

...but but but they didn't even play New Hampshire, Northeastern or Rhode Island!!!!


xlolx xlolx xlolx xthumbsupx

[BDKJMU]

7171, UR was tied for 3rd in the CAA:
JMU 8-0
Nova 7-1
UR 6-2
UNH 6-2

[blukeys]

CAA rules:
Everyone else:

Drools

[93henfan]

BDKJMU started a 3rd place thread after you Andy, so he has a lot riding on this.xlolx

[BDKJMU]

http://www.caasports.com/standings/Standings.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=8500&SPID=4660

[UNIFanSince1983]

I know that is where they finished in the regular season, but aren't they currently the #1 team in the CAA? I mean considering they are #1 in the Nation I have to assume they would be #1 in their own conference at this point right?

[93henfan]

I know that is where they finished in the regular season, but aren't they currently the #1 team in the CAA? I mean considering they are #1 in the Nation I have to assume they would be #1 in their own conference at this point right?


Playoffs don't figure in to CAA final standings.

[UNHWildCats]

7171, UR was tied for 3rd in the CAA:
JMU 8-0
Nova 7-1
UR 6-2
UNH 6-2
Ya, but had they gone through the tiebreakers, I think (not sure, obviosuly the last time I looked at this was before the final week of the reg season) UNH would have won the tiebreaker, so Richmond was the 4th place CAA team.

[BDKJMU]

Ya, but had they gone through the tiebreakers, I think (not sure, obviosuly the last time I looked at this was before the final week of the reg season) UNH would have won the tiebreaker, so Richmond was the 4th place CAA team.

But had they, would have, doesn't matter. Tie breakers were not applied. UR OFFICIALLY tied for 3rd place in the CAA.

[93henfan]

JMU fans. Can't live with 'em... pass the beer nuts.xsmiley_wix

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

and people wonder why everyone outside the CAA doesn't like them. xrolleyesx

[GATA]

When you put 10 teams from one conference in the playoffs...one of them is bound to win it eventually...

I kid, I kid...but seriously...now that UR has won the title. are they the worst National Championship team ever? Kinda like the Giants last year winning the superbowl. They got hot when it counted...in the playoffs.

[blitz4]

I think the CAA is better than the Socon from top to bottom. However I think Appstate and Wofford could place in the top 1-3.

[13thwarrior]

The title belongs with Richmond not the CAA IMO.

[Old Cat Fan]

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o183/OLDCATFAN/jeez.jpg

xlolx xrotatehx xlolx xrotatehx xlolx xrotatehx

[URMite]

and people wonder why everyone outside the CAA doesn't like them. xrolleyesx

Outside the CAA??? xwhistlex JK xpeacex

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o183/OLDCATFAN/jeez.jpg

xlolx xrotatehx xlolx xrotatehx xlolx xrotatehx

Agreed. xdeadhorsex xdeadhorsex xdeadhorsex

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

Outside the CAA??? xwhistlex JK xpeacex

I was really just trying to say, it's funny how it wasn't Richmond that beat us, it was the CAA. Most of this is just xdeadhorsex

[Old Cat Fan]

Here you go UTAH griz fan this is how they do it in big sky country xnodx

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o183/OLDCATFAN/beating-a-dead-horse.gif

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

Here you go UTAH griz fan this is how they do it in big sky country xnodx

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o183/OLDCATFAN/beating-a-dead-horse.gif

haha, that had to be stolen from office space or something, poor fax machine. :D

[MacThor]

Ya, but had they gone through the tiebreakers, I think (not sure, obviosuly the last time I looked at this was before the final week of the reg season) UNH would have won the tiebreaker, so Richmond was the 4th place CAA team.

Moot point, I know.....but technically, no. UR had a better record vs. common opponents (5-1 vs 4-2) by way of their victory over W&M.

[uofmman1122]

Does it really matter which CAA team ended up ahead of any other CAA team?

Richmond won the NC, so wouldn't that make them not only the #1 team in the CAA, but the #1 team in FCS?

At the end of it all, Richmond is the one hoisting the trophy. xnodx

[4th and What?]

Does it really matter which CAA team ended up ahead of any other CAA team?

Richmond won the NC, so wouldn't that make them not only the #1 team in the CAA, but the #1 team in FCS?

At the end of it all, Richmond is the one hoisting the trophy. xnodx

Does JMU have to give up the CAA champion status this year then? Damn.... xbawlingx

Was a great playoffs all around though, Richmond beat some amazing teams on the way to the NC. Congrats to them.

[Drblankstare]

haha, that had to be stolen from office space or something, poor fax machine. :D

Thats riduculous they really needed those chairs
xlolx

[JohnStOnge]

As a historical note: I have a painful memory of the third place team from the Gateway winning the national title in 1997. That's when Youngstown State topped McNeese by one point in the national title game. A very frustrating loss for many reasons, including the fact that McNeese beat the 2nd place team from the Gateway, Northern Iowa, in the regular season and the 1st place team, Western Illinois, in the quarterfinals.

[JohnStOnge]

and people wonder why everyone outside the CAA doesn't like them. xrolleyesx

I don't know if I don't "like" them but I was hoping Northern Iowa was going to win in the semis. Too bad UNI's QB missed that wide open tall guy in the end zone so that the Panthers had to settle for a field goal on their last score. Failing to make that play probably made the difference between the not having any CAA teams in the championship game and the current situation. That guy was pretty tough to overthrow like that too. I wouldn't be surprised to find that he was the tallest wideout in the subdivision.

[ChickenMan]

and people wonder why everyone outside the CAA doesn't like them. xrolleyesx

In sports.. it's always good to be hated... ;)

[WVAPPmountaineer]

When they hoist the 2008 National Championship banner no Richmond fan will give a rat's --- where they finished in the CAA ---

[YoUDeeMan]

I think the CAA is better than the Socon from top to bottom. However I think Appstate and Wofford could place in the top 1-3.

Huh? Both Appy and Richmond beat ASU. JM beat Woffy.

That means one of them could only finish 4th. And nova could beat both Appy and Woffy. Certainly, UHN would also have a shot at both of them.

[MacThor]

There's no "CAA" in "NCAA"........oh, wait xdohx

How about NCAA > CAA ?

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

A certain team with a 5-2 SoCon record (smaller win % than UR's CAA record this year) won it all last year, and completely ran over the two best CAA teams from last year. One of those two SoCon losses was played without Edwards,but I'm pretty sure they were still much closer to 100% than they were against Richmond this year.xpeacex

[MR. CHICKEN]

RICHMOND.......STUNG FOUR CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS......ON DUH WAY...TA BLINGVILLE...........xnodx.......BRAWK/OBAMA!!

EASTERN KENTUCKY
APPALACHIAN STATE
NORTHERN IOWA
MONTANA

[UNHFan99]

Richmond is gonna have a bigger ring than the other fourth place team. They win.

[JohnStOnge]

A positive is that 7 of the past 10 national champs have been from Southern States. Of course it's all from east coast Southern States (Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia) so that's not optimum.

Kind of sad from my standpoint that the Southern Gulf Coast states, which produce more football talent, only have two I-AA/FCS championships in the history of the tournament and none for over 20 years now (1987). Ridiculous that even a talent-thin state like Kentucky has more I-AA/FCS national championships than Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida combined.

[JohnStOnge]

RICHMOND.......STUNG FOUR CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS......ON DUH WAY...TA BLINGVILLE...........xnodx.......BRAWK/OBAMA!!

EASTERN KENTUCKY
APPALACHIAN STATE
NORTHERN IOWA
MONTANA

I think Western Kentucky did that in 2002. Additionally, I think the Hilltoppers knocked off the 1 (McNeese), 2 (Western Illinois), and 3 (Georgia Southern) seeds. The other conference champ they beat was Murray State. Maybe WIU was 3 and GSU was 2 but if I remember correctly they were the 2 and 3 seeds in some order.

[93henfan]

A positive is that 9 of the past 11 national champs have been from Colonial States.

Fixed it for ya. xthumbsupx

[Gil Dobie]

Like when Kareen Abdul-Jabbar was a Freshmen, Freshmen were not eliglible to play varisty in the NCAA back then. UCLA varsity was rated #1, and lost to the Freshmen team, no National Title for Kareen (Lew Alcindor then). Gotta win the playoffs to be the #1 team.

[LehighFan11]

When you put 10 teams from one conference in the playoffs...one of them is bound to win it eventually...

I kid, I kid...but seriously...now that UR has won the title. are they the worst National Championship team ever? Kinda like the Giants last year winning the superbowl. They got hot when it counted...in the playoffs.
You nailed it.

[GATA]

The CAA is a great football conference, but CAA fans are really taking the strength of their league out of context. The fact that the CAA has 12 teams is the main reason they get so many in the playoffs to begin with.

What's perplexing is when you look at a team like New Hampshire who went 9-2 in the CAA, yet didn't play Richmond OR James Madison. The two best teams that they played were William and Mary and Villanova and they lost both games. This doesn't mean that UNH isn't good, because they are VERY good, but it really changes the playoff perspective and the potential overall record of alot of teams if UNH has to play James Madison and Richmond...

There really is strength in numbers. I feel like if the CAA wants to keep this 12 team format they should play a conference title game to crown a champion.

I wish GSU could get a conference schedule where we didn't have to play App State or Wofford. I would love for the SOCON to eventually expand to 12 teams to I think, but I can see how it screws up the conference scheduling something fierce.

[BDKJMU]

Richmond is gonna have a bigger ring than the other fourth place team. They win.

Who's the other 4th place team? UR & UNH tield for 3rd....

[ASUMountaineer]

Who's the other 4th place team? UR & UNH tield for 3rd....

We get it. xeekx

[ChickenMan]

The CAA is a great football conference, but CAA fans are really taking the strength of their league out of context. The fact that the CAA has 12 teams is the main reason they get so many in the playoffs to begin with.




Once again quantity is confused with quality.

You could have combined the OV, MEAC, Patriot and Southland into one giant 30+ team league and still not had any of those teams advance beyond the first round of the playoffs.

[UNH_Alum_In_CT]

The CAA is a great football conference, but CAA fans are really taking the strength of their league out of context. The fact that the CAA has 12 teams is the main reason they get so many in the playoffs to begin with.

What's perplexing is when you look at a team like New Hampshire who went 9-2 in the CAA, yet didn't play Richmond OR James Madison. The two best teams that they played were William and Mary and Villanova and they lost both games. This doesn't mean that UNH isn't good, because they are VERY good, but it really changes the playoff perspective and the potential overall record of alot of teams if UNH has to play James Madison and Richmond...

There really is strength in numbers. I feel like if the CAA wants to keep this 12 team format they should play a conference title game to crown a champion.

I wish GSU could get a conference schedule where we didn't have to play App State or Wofford. I would love for the SOCON to eventually expand to 12 teams to I think, but I can see how it screws up the conference scheduling something fierce.

I think the main reason the CAA gets so many teams in the playoffs is because they perform well in OOC games, in their FBS games, in the playoffs, etc. And because there are so many strong teams in the conference that SOS is usually near the top within FCS.

One huge flaw in this argument about not playing everybody is the assumption that if the CAA was boiled down to say nine teams that UMass, UNH, Maine, Delaware, Richmond, JMU, W&M, Villanova would all be in this league. No doubt there wouldn't be five teams coming out of that league. At the same time, it would be stronger than any other FCS league. A 7-4 team might make the playoffs every year. But it isn't realistic to think the league, with the number of teams everybody outside the CAA would prefer, would provide all the match-ups you folks seek.

And you know what, if the twelve team CAA played a true round robin, then everybody would still be complaining. That's because outside a 12 game year, there wouldn't be any OOC game; therefore, you'd all be complaining they we don't play anybody outside to ascertain how good the teams are. Obviously, with guarantee games nobody in the CAA is going to opt for a full round robin schedule anyway.

The CAA North along with the perceived "weak" rotation is still a league schedule that while not at the top of FCS would probably still rank above a few of AQ leagues. Villanova made the playoffs, beat Richmond, only lost to JMU because of a hail Mary. W&M was right there at the end for a playoff bid. There is nothing weak about that rotation of the CAA South.

Why is it so difficult for so many on this forum to acknowledge that even without playing a full round robin that the CAA teams play formidable schedules? Didn't UNH winning at SIU and only losing by two at UNI prove they deserved to be in the playoffs? xoopsx Why hasn't that substantiated the relative strength of the CAA North and the South rotation of Nova, W&M and Towson?

BTW, why is New Hampshire even in your discussion when we weren't the last CAA team into the playoffs this year? xconfusedx xrolleyesx xrolleyesx

[henfan]

...I feel like if the CAA wants to keep this 12 team format they should play a conference title game to crown a champion.

I wish GSU could get a conference schedule where we didn't have to play App State or Wofford. I would love for the SOCON to eventually expand to 12 teams to I think, but I can see how it screws up the conference scheduling something fierce.

The CAA can and will keep the 12 team format and, just to stick a finger in your eye, will even expand it to 14 in coming years.:p

Regarding a conference championship game & round robin competition, the NCAA has this to say:


from D-I Manual
"31.3.4.1 (d) In championship subdivision football, football-playing conferences that subdivide into five or more teams are required to conduct a single round-robin competition within each division and develop a formula for determination of the conference champion, which must be approved by the Division I Football Championship Committee prior to the start of the season. A postseason championship game is not required."

There's strength in numbers when the competition is solid up and down the line.

[YoUDeeMan]

A certain team with a 5-2 SoCon record (smaller win % than UR's CAA record this year) won it all last year, and completely ran over the two best CAA teams from last year. One of those two SoCon losses was played without Edwards,but I'm pretty sure they were still much closer to 100% than they were against Richmond this year.xpeacex

xconfusedx

Destroyed the two best CAA teams? Wow, you don't know much about the CAA...or football in general. That statement is so off base it is sad. UD was not one of the best CAA teams. We weren't close.

JMU was probably the best CAA team last year and they beat ASU up and down the field but lost the game on a foolish play. JMU was also w/o their best RB. Sometimes the better team loses the game.

RIchmond was probably the next best team. But, they were w/o their two DEs (anyone question their value now?), their RB wasn't healthy, and they lost a starting O-lineman for the game against ASU.

UNH had a good team but lost by a hair aginst a very good UNI team at UNI. Stuff happens.

UD wasn't close to being the best team in the CAA...not in the regular season and certainly not by the time they got to the NC game. xnodx

That would be similar to saying Elon was one of the best SoCon teams this year. xrolleyesx

Often, match ups and staying healthy determine the NC.

[YoUDeeMan]

I think Western Kentucky did that in 2002. Additionally, I think the Hilltoppers knocked off the 1 (McNeese), 2 (Western Illinois), and 3 (Georgia Southern) seeds. The other conference champ they beat was Murray State. Maybe WIU was 3 and GSU was 2 but if I remember correctly they were the 2 and 3 seeds in some order.

In 2003, UD beat 4 conference champs. Both co-champs of the old MVAC, the SoCon champ, and the undefeated Patriot champ. xnodx

[YoUDeeMan]

When you put 10 teams from one conference in the playoffs...one of them is bound to win it eventually...

I kid, I kid...but seriously...now that UR has won the title. are they the worst National Championship team ever? Kinda like the Giants last year winning the superbowl. They got hot when it counted...in the playoffs.

Odd that people think Richmond got "hot" for the playoffs. They were very good all year and many who saw them play recognized that they were the best team out there.

[RadMann]

The CAA is a great football conference, but CAA fans are really taking the strength of their league out of context. The fact that the CAA has 12 teams is the main reason they get so many in the playoffs to begin with.


I think you take the size of the conference out of conference. The fact that the CAA has a few more teams is not the important point. The important point is that the CAA has extremely good football and strong teams year in and year out, and a lot of them.

[igo4uni]

I think you take the size of the conference out of conference. The fact that the CAA has a few more teams is not the important point. The important point is that the CAA has extremely good football and strong teams year in and year out, and a lot of them.

yes.

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

When you put 10 teams from one conference in the playoffs...one of them is bound to win it eventually...

I kid, I kid...but seriously...now that UR has won the title. are they the worst National Championship team ever? Kinda like the Giants last year winning the superbowl. They got hot when it counted...in the playoffs.

You are a fool.

[luflame15]

Congrats to Richmond!!!!!

[ASU]

The CAA is not a conference.....they are a gaggle of teams. Just well to be a bunch of independents.
A conference is not a conference if they do not even play all the teams in the conference.
Therefore, the SoCon is the best conference.

[apaladin]

...but but but they didn't even play New Hampshire, Northeastern or Rhode Island!!!!



WTG Richmond!

....but does anyone in Richmond care?

[BDKJMU]

The CAA is not a conference.....they are a gaggle of teams. Just well to be a bunch of independents.
A conference is not a conference if they do not even play all the teams in the conference.
Therefore, the SoCon is the best conference.

OK, then according to your logic if the 12 team CAA isn't a conference the:
1. 12 team ACC isn't a conference
2. 12 team SEC isn't a conference
3. 11 team Big 10 isn't a conference
4. 12 team Big 12 isn't a conference
4. 12 team C-USA isn't a conference
5. 13 team MAC isn't a conference

Which would mean I-A only has 5 conferences, not 10. The Big East, Pac 10, Sun Belt, Mountain West, and WAC

[spiderman87]

After reading the first 6 pages of this thread, it pains me to think that everyone is still doubting Richmond. ARE YOU SERIOUS? They knocked off 4 Conference champions in a row, and there is still questioning as to their legitimacy? ARE YOU KIDDING? ***** the talk about Montana not showing up or Richmond just turning it on during the playoffs- Richmond came to play at EVERY game this postseason, a well as their regular season opponents, and beat all of their post season opponents the HANDILY.
I am sick of everyone not giving Richmond any credit. I DONT GIVE A ***** WEATHER YOU LIKE THE CAAA OR NOT. Richmond played their asses off and everyone thinks that they GOT LUCKY. Thats BS, and the fact that all you posters feel as though that you have reason to continue to cr*p on tjis team is rediculous. Honestly...this team played their hearts out on Friday, as well as the past 4 months, and deserved the NC. It is ridiculous that folks can find some reasoning in them just getting lucky. Why wasn't your team in Chattanooga this weekend? Thats right.... YOU WEREN'T GOOD ENOUGH. I think you should be concentrating on making ridiculous excuses for your own teams, rather than ****ting on the current National Champions.

[uofmman1122]

After reading the first 6 pages of this thread, it pains me to think that everyone is still doubting Richmond. ARE YOU SERIOUS? They knocked off 4 Conference champions in a row, and there is still questioning as to their legitimacy? ARE YOU KIDDING? ***** the talk about Montana not showing up or Richmond just turning it on during the playoffs- Richmond came to play at EVERY game this postseason, a well as their regular season opponents, and beat all of their post season opponents the HANDILY.
I am sick of everyone not giving Richmond any credit. I DONT GIVE A ***** WEATHER YOU LIKE THE CAAA OR NOT. Richmond played their asses off and everyone thinks that they GOT LUCKY. Thats BS, and the fact that all you posters feel as though that you have reason to continue to cr*p on tjis team is rediculous. Honestly...this team played their hearts out on Friday, as well as the past 4 months, and deserved the NC. It is ridiculous that folks can find some reasoning in them just getting lucky. Why wasn't your team in Chattanooga this weekend? Thats right.... YOU WEREN'T GOOD ENOUGH. I think you should be concentrating on making ridiculous excuses for your own teams, rather than ****ting on the current National Champions.Woah, buddy.

Settle down.

This is not a thread to rag on Richmond.

The only ragging, and rightfully so, is the ragging on other CAA teams' fans who act like the CAA won the national championship.

[ChickenMan]

The only ragging, and rightfully so, is the ragging on other CAA teams' fans who act like the CAA won the national championship.



that's exectly the way many SoCon fans acted after ASU won their titles... xrolleyesx

[Reign of Terrier]

Huh? Both Appy and Richmond beat ASU. JM beat Woffy.

That means one of them could only finish 4th. And nova could beat both Appy and Woffy. Certainly, UHN would also have a shot at both of them.

He said they COULD finish 1-3, not necessarily both of them in the top 3 at once. Say what you want about App, they screwed up any argument they had by being killed by Richmond but Wofford went down to the wire with JMU just like Nova. I just don't see Wofford or App finishing 5 or 6th. When App plays it's best it is the best (we'll see that next year) and when Wofford has a decent defense we're very hard to beat (we'll have one next year:p )

Another thing-Wofford and App lost to the CAA champ by 3, with Wofford playing 60 minutes. I believe that margin is smaller than the teams you mentioned above. Sure a>b>c doesn't work in football, but you can't count them out like you just did.

[YoUDeeMan]

Woah, buddy.

Settle down.

This is not a thread to rag on Richmond.

The only ragging, and rightfully so, is the ragging on other CAA teams' fans who act like the CAA won the national championship.

We understand. As a Montana fan, it is hard to have pride in the other teams in Big Fluffy Sky conference...they never can make it to the big game. xbawlingx

In the CAA however, we like our brothers and wish them well when they are playing someone else. We also celebrate their success. xthumbsupx

Well, except some JMU guys who rooted for the Griz. But JMU is the black sheep of the CAA family anyway. :D

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

We understand. As a Montana fan, it is hard to have pride in the other teams in Big Fluffy Sky conference...they never can make it to the big game. xbawlingx

In the CAA however, we like our brothers and wish them well when they are playing someone else. We also celebrate their success. xthumbsupx

Well, except some JMU guys who rooted for the Griz. But JMU is the black sheep of the CAA family anyway. :D

xbowx xbowx xbowx xbowx xbowx xbowx

[uofmman1122]

We understand. As a Montana fan, it is hard to have pride in the other teams in Big Fluffy Sky conference...they never can make it to the big game. xbawlingx

In the CAA however, we like our brothers and wish them well when they are playing someone else. We also celebrate their success. xthumbsupx

Well, except some JMU guys who rooted for the Griz. But JMU is the black sheep of the CAA family anyway. :DWhatever makes you feel better. xlolx

[Spider]

The title belongs with Richmond not the CAA IMO.

you got that right......

[mtgrizfankb]

Final Standings. Richmond BEST TEAM in the COUNTRY.
2nd GRIZ
3rd JMU
4th UNI

2 of those four were from west of MISS. i believe...."the west SUCKS"????? stop your CAA bull ****. you have a big full good conf. quit jerking it over your eastern pride.

[BigApp]

yes, congrats to Richmond! They've now proved to the rest of the Colonial Athletic Aggregation that you don't have to schedule Iona to squeak into the playoffs!!

[ChickenMan]

yes, congrats to Richmond! They've now proved to the rest of the Colonial Athletic Aggregation that you don't have to schedule Iona to squeak into the playoffs!!


or even these SoCon OCC giants..

Faulkner
Mars Hill
West Georgia
Webber International
Shorter
Cumberland

xrolleyesx

[Reign of Terrier]

or even these SoCon OCC giants..

Faulkner
Mars Hill
West Georgia
Webber International
Shorter
Cummberland

xrolleyesx

Wofford didn't play any of those (but we did play the powerhouses of the Big South)

[JMU Newbill]

JMU played North Carolina Central... but we hardly squeaked into the playoffs

[State Line Liquors]

yes, congrats to Richmond! They've now proved to the rest of the Colonial Athletic Aggregation that you don't have to schedule Iona to squeak into the playoffs!!

This comment is a head scratcher.

[BigApp]

or even these SoCon OCC giants..

Faulkner
Mars Hill
West Georgia
Webber International
Shorter
Cumberland

xrolleyesx

remind me. Which SoCon playoff team played these teams??

[GannonFan]

You know it's a Monday after the season is over when people start debating the merits and strengths of playing games amongst teams like Iona, Charleston Southern, Presbyterian, and Jacksonville. xrolleyesx

[UMass922]

OK, then according to your logic if the 12 team CAA isn't a conference the:
1. 12 team ACC isn't a conference
2. 12 team SEC isn't a conference
3. 11 team Big 10 isn't a conference
4. 12 team Big 12 isn't a conference
4. 12 team C-USA isn't a conference
5. 13 team MAC isn't a conference

Which would mean I-A only has 5 conferences, not 10. The Big East, Pac 10, Sun Belt, Mountain West, and WAC

And don't forget about the NFL. According the same logic, the AFC and NFC aren't conferences, either.

[ViennaSpider]

I kid, I kid...but seriously...now that UR has won the title. are they the worst National Championship team ever? Kinda like the Giants last year winning the superbowl. They got hot when it counted...in the playoffs.

Imbecilic in the extreme.

[Mountain Panther]

As a historical note: I have a painful memory of the third place team from the Gateway winning the national title in 1997. That's when Youngstown State topped McNeese by one point in the national title game. A very frustrating loss for many reasons, including the fact that McNeese beat the 2nd place team from the Gateway, Northern Iowa, in the regular season and the 1st place team, Western Illinois, in the quarterfinals.

I was at that UNI/McNeese game....they were doing construction on the Dome so the game was played at a local high school stadium. Very odd. It was also very odd because UNI/Iowa/ISU all lost that weekend, which was rare back then.

In regard to YSU....hard to bet against Old Sweater Vest. Except recently.....

[Woody Hayes]

UNI beat the 4th place and 5th place team so we won the national championship?

[ChickenMan]

UNI beat the 4th place and 5th place team so we won the national championship?

Of course you did.. no one could possibly overcome your 'DOME' field advantage... :p

[Mountain Panther]

Of course you did.. no one could possibly overcome your 'DOME' field advantage... :p

The Dome giveth....the Dome taketh away. xnonono2x