CSN West: It Will Happen Again -- An All West Final

[CSN-info]

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By Kent Schmidt, CSN West Columnist
My dream of two teams west of the Mississippi River meeting in the Division I national championship game is a real possibility. Both Montana and Northern Iowa, with wins this weekend, will advance to Chattanooga. It would be only the second time in NCAA Division I football history that two West teams meet for the championship, the first being in 1984 when Montana State beat Louisiana Tech.Read more ... http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/index.php?blog=5&title=csn-west-it-will-happen-again-an-all-wes&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

West Coast Bias. Ugh.

[CatMom07]

Don't think UNI is exactly west coast (at least not the last time I checked a map)

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

Yeah, you need to get a new map and check it.

[grizband]

Don't think UNI is exactly west coast (at least not the last time I checked a map)
True, but in relation to FCS football, UNI is "out west."

[Screamin_Eagle174]

West Coast Bias. Ugh.

Give me a break. There's so much more East Coast bias on this site because a majority of FCS teams are in the East. Western teams are almost always the underdog.

[CatMom07]

Oh right, forgot about all those westerns set in Iowa. What was that famous one... "The Music Man?"

I am a native East Coaster but I am not that dense to think of Iowa as WEST. FCS or not.

I think the CAA and a few others need a geography lesson. The Mississippi River is not the center of the US, it's a bit WEST of that. Therefore, that would also be the divide for the FCS. In true geographic terms, UNI is in the East.

(I know, I'm over-working this)


The Geographical Center of the United States (contiguous 48) is located about two miles northwest of Lebanon, Kansas. Take US Highway 281 north 1 mile, and turn west one mile on K-191 to the maker that has been erected at the end of the paved road. The actual center is about a half mile away in the center of a former hog farm.

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

Please lighten up folks. xpeacex

[Ronbo]

Don't think UNI is exactly west coast (at least not the last time I checked a map)

He didn't say West Coast. I believe Iowa is termed Midwest. I think they aren't far from the famous Western towns of Deadwood, S.D. where Wild Bill Hickok was gunned down and Northfield, Mn. where Jesse James was ambushed.

[CatMom07]

Please lighten up folks. xpeacex

Hey, I'm just having some fun here.

[CatMom07]

He didn't say West Coast. I believe Iowa is termed Midwest. I think they aren't far from the famous Western towns of Deadwood, S.D. where Wild Bill Hickok was gunned down and Northfield, Mn. where Jesse James was ambushed.

And I'm from southern NJ, about 22 miles from the Cradle of Liberty (Liberty Bell and all that) but I don't hear much mention about NJ dairy farms when people think about the Revolutionary War. xlolx xthumbsupx

(what this has to do with anything is beyond me)

[CatMom07]

So back to the thread, An all west final is fine by me.... thank you very mcuh.

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

So back to the thread, An all west final is fine by me.... thank you very mcuh.

/me crosses his fingers xpeacex

[FerociousCat]

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[Big Al]

It never ceased to amaze me living in Utah for 8 years how everything east of the state line was referred to as "out east". There was no midwest in their vocabulary.

PS - John Wayne was a draft-dodging wuss who I don't like to claim as an Iowan. I much prefer Wyatt Earp or Fred Grandy ("Gopher" on The Love Boat). ;D

[Ronbo]

I think any place that was part of the Wild West like MN, ND, SD, IA, NE, and MO should be included with TX, OK, AZ, UT, NV, CA, CO, WY, and MT as part of that piece of American history.

[CatMom07]

Well, I live in TX now and they don't think they are part of American History - just their own

and I'll leave it there as I won't turn this into a history debate.


Go Grizz!!!

[FerociousCat]

PS - John Wayne was a draft-dodging wuss who I don't like to claim as an Iowan. I much prefer Wyatt Earp or Fred Grandy ("Gopher" on The Love Boat). ;D

Didn't John Wayne move west cause he couldn't handle the HARSH Iowa climate...WUSSY!

I'm supposedly related to the coward Robert Ford who assassinated Jesse Jamesxrolleyesx
So watch out Richmond....I might sneak up on ya & pop a cap!:D

[igo4uni]

UNI is west of the mighty Mississippi by 90 miles, but I would consider us Midwest, not West. Definitely not east, though.

[Syntax Error]

... I am not that dense to think of Iowa as WEST. FCS or not...hmmmm "two teams west of the Mississippi River" seems more factual than saying UMontana is "West coast"

[SeattleGriz]

I think he said West because he covers the West for CSN, and UNI is his responsibility. Therefore, Kent would consider them West.

[achrist70]

Possibly the greatest article ever written!

[URMite]

http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/skins/andreas_01/img/82529_CSNWest.JPG
By Kent Schmidt, CSN West ColumnistRead more ... http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/index.php?blog=5&title=csn-west-it-will-happen-again-an-all-wes&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

Thank god, I was beginning to worry that the CAA might get cocky or something, lol.

As for the definition of west debate, where is half the US population east of you and half west? (since we have already determined land mass)

[Syntax Error]

At least the championship game will be in the FCS West!

[CrunchGriz]

Thank god, I was beginning to worry that the CAA might get cocky or something, lol.

As for the definition of west debate, where is half the US population east of you and half west? (since we have already determined land mass)

As of the 2000 Census (I believe the latest determination of the median of population), the following map shows the median point (the point which shows where half of the population exists both east-west and north-south of it):

Median of Population - East/West and North/South - 2000 (http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a000000/a003100/a003164/popmedian-pre.png)

[CatMom07]

Thank god, I was beginning to worry that the CAA might get cocky or something, lol.

As for the definition of west debate, where is half the US population east of you and half west? (since we have already determined land mass)

Good gravy,you guys are getting all too serious about this thing. East/West is a geographic term, not a population demographic: which are divided up into 4 regions. And the South region includes TX and OK, so it will take some research to figure it out (which I think, on preliminary research, would surprise you).
Sides, I'm in Central Texas so everything is either half east or half west of me. Not a fair question.:p




Mean Center of US Population in 2000 was Phelps County, MO, but it has continued to shift west in the past 7 years (last figures available have TX with a 12.7 pop increase since 2000)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_center_of_United_States_population


now, can we stop all this and just go with it? I was just being facitious to start with... geez.

[Syntax Error]

Population has nothing to do with FCS proximity, it is where the schools are and Texas is definitely WEST in the FCS. xnodx :)

[UNIFanSince1983]

Don't trust Texans as according to them there is only one state in the union anyways...

[Syntax Error]

halfway there

[Houndawg]

Don't trust Texans as according to them there is only one state in the union anyways...

I have an uncle in Texas City whose watch plays Dixie every hour on the hour. And not just a few bars - the whole freaking song.

[kalm]

The "west" begins when you are within sight of the Rocky Mountains. If you want to be more accurate than that regionalize it further (PNW, Mountain, Midwest, etc.)

Describing UNI and UM as "west" in the title to the thread is geographically meaningless and inaccurate.

[Blue42]

I think the point is that UNI is "not an east coast team".

Of course they are a MIDwestern team. From a personnel standpoint, UNI has historically had VERY few players from the eastern states...other than Florida. They are overwhelmingly from Iowa and the bordering states of Mn, Ill, Mo, Wisc, Neb.

I can remember a couple Jersey guys. Other than that, Ohio is about as far east as they've pulled from.

[semobison]

Iowa is in the Midwest! Ive been there!! Good luck today Panthers!

[80 Griz]

Didn't John Wayne move west cause he couldn't handle the HARSH Iowa climate...WUSSY!

I'm supposedly related to the coward Robert Ford who assassinated Jesse Jamesxrolleyesx
So watch out Richmond....I might sneak up on ya & pop a cap!:D


It's a funny thing you would say that since UNI plays in a DOME

[MacThor]

Northern Iowa 38, Richmond 28

Has he even watched a Spider game this season? Barring OT, if the total goes over 66, I'll eat a live spider.

[Syntax Error]

Well, that's that... UNI came up short, great season for them. Richmond finished it.

Should be a great champ game.

[MacThor]

Well he was just a little bit off......