ACC Championship game

[813Jag]

As much as I hate the fact that the Noles didn't make the ACC title game, I hope the turn out is good. There's lots of activities this week, but tickets still remain. I just hoep it doesn't look like this:
http://images.sundaymorningqb.com/images/admin/acc_championship_game_crowd_view_2007_empty_stadiu m_jacksonville_altel_acc_sucks_sux.jpg
At least the weather will be good.

Tie this in with a huge high school playoff game in town, as well as a countywide allstar game after the Championship Game and it's a good weekend to be a football fan.

[89Hen]

xsmhx I'm sure it will. If you were a fan of either team, would you spend the money to go see a conference game, or the bowl game that will follow?

[813Jag]

xsmhx I'm sure it will. If you were a fan of either team, would you spend the money to go see a conference game, or the bowl game that will follow?
Depends on travel. Personally I would try to do both, but that's because I'd only have to drive 4 hours to Miami. (I stay near Ray J. xlolx ) But I can understand fans having to travel from Blacksburg and Boston. I'm hoping the city promotes this well, since Tampa's hosting the SEC Men's Tourney this season.

[dgreco]

Depends on travel. Personally I would try to do both, but that's because I'd only have to drive 4 hours to Miami. (I stay near Ray J. xlolx ) But I can understand fans having to travel from Blacksburg and Boston. I'm hoping the city promotes this well, since Tampa's hosting the SEC Men's Tourney this season.

I doubt VTech and Boston College will travel better to Tampa than they did to Jacksonville. It will look the same probably.

[813Jag]

The only thing working in Tampa's favor is Ray J isn't as big as the Gator Bowl. (that's what I always will call it)

[beauvighn]

This game should be moved to Charlotte. This is the heart of ACC country. I know the weather would be sketchy , but it is that way on most of the home fields they would play on. Maybe more people outside the fan bases of the two teams might attend.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Very few ACC teams have particularly large stadiums for a reason IMO. Most of the ACC schools don't live and die with their football program. The only cut and dry football schools are FSU, Clemson, Miami and V-Tech. Also Clemson, FSU and Miami are the only ones i believe that are 70k. How dumb can the ACC be to host the league title game 7+ hours away from the heart of the conference? The game should be at Panther Stadium in Charlotte.

[813Jag]

The game will move to Charlotte in 2010.

[Hoyadestroya85]

Mark Herzlich will have 15 tackles and 2 picks (my homer pick)

[introvertedGSUfan]

What's funny is that GT is ranked ahead of both BC and VT right now and probably will be at the end of the season if they win the Chik-fil-a bowl in a convincing manner. If VT wins the ACC Champion, would they be the first ever 4 loss team in a BCS bowl?

[Hoyadestroya85]

What's funny is that GT is ranked ahead of both BC and VT right now and probably will be at the end of the season if they win the Chik-fil-a bowl in a convincing manner. If VT wins the ACC Champion, would they be the first ever 4 loss team in a BCS bowl?

Maybe Pitt in 2003?
The ideal matchup would be BC GT.. I've become a big fan of Tech this year now that PJ is the coach

[Shellin]

Pitt only had 3 losses going into their BCS game against Utah, I think the only BCS team with 4 losses might have been Florida State in 2005 when they lost to PSU in the Orange Bowl.

[813Jag]

Pitt only had 3 losses going into their BCS game against Utah, I think the only BCS team with 4 losses might have been Florida State in 2005 when they lost to PSU in the Orange Bowl.
they should have that game. xmadx

[Hansel]

The Big East and ACC this year demonstrate why autobids should not be awarded in Football

[nwFL Griz]

Florida St (9-4) in 2002, and Florida St (8-4) in 2005, both had 4 losses going into their bowl games.

[Reign of Terrier]

The Big East and ACC this year demonstrate why autobids should not be awarded in Football

I don't know about the Big East, Cincinnati lost 1 conference game and to Oklahoma--not such a bad schedule, I think they deserve it.

[nwFL Griz]

The Big East and ACC this year demonstrate why autobids should not be awarded in Football

I love this quote....and everytime I see it just pisses me off more. Did you know that the ACC is 6-4 against the SEC this year, and is 4-0 against the Big 12?

Top to bottom, the ACC is the strongest FBS conference this year. No national title contender, but I'm confident they will win their BCS game.

[introvertedGSUfan]

I love this quote....and everytime I see it just pisses me off more. Did you know that the ACC is 6-4 against the SEC this year, and is 4-0 against the Big 12?

Top to bottom, the ACC is the strongest FBS conference this year. No national title contender, but I'm confident they will win their BCS game.

They have a good chance of winning all their bowls, or at least the vast majority of them as well.

[nwFL Griz]

They have a good chance of winning all their bowls, or at least the vast majority of them as well.

Agreed. xthumbsupx

[brownbear]

I love this quote....and everytime I see it just pisses me off more. Did you know that the ACC is 6-4 against the SEC this year, and is 4-0 against the Big 12?

Top to bottom, the ACC is the strongest FBS conference this year. No national title contender, but I'm confident they will win their BCS game.

The SEC has two great teams (who are 3-0 against ACC schools), but then there's nobody else who's any good. Ole Miss (lost to Wake Forest) and Georgia (lost to Georgia Tech) are the next two best teams.

[nwFL Griz]

The SEC has two great teams (who are 3-0 against ACC schools), but then there's nobody else who's any good. Ole Miss (lost to Wake Forest) and Georgia (lost to Georgia Tech) are the next two best teams.

You illustrate my point well. Outside of Florida and Bama, there's not much going on in the SEC.

[89Hen]

I love this quote....and everytime I see it just pisses me off more. Did you know that the ACC is 6-4 against the SEC this year, and is 4-0 against the Big 12?
And oddly enough, I think the ACC is having one of their worst years in a while. The SEC is living off of the last couple years and people aren't really paying attention to the teams other than Bama and UF. Folks, they aren't that great.

[Marcus Garvey]

Hey, the ACC invited Boston College, the *****tiest group of traveling fans in the Big East (circa 2000). Even Miami and Pitt can do better, and that's not saying a lot.

Next year, I proprose the game be moved to Wallace Wade Stadium, for 2 reasons:
1) It's hosted a Rose Bowl (yeah yeah, i know, extenuating circumstances)
2) It'd be nice to see that stadium sell out.

They're not likely to sell much more than the 33,000+ seats that Duke's stadium can hold anyway.
ACC Football Fever: Catch it!
http://map.duke.edu/images/7718_1.jpg

[Marcus Garvey]

You illustrate my point well. Outside of Florida and Bama, there's not much going on in the SEC.

This is very true. But the problem is this:
The SEC has 2 great (i.e. Top 10) teams this year. Plus, a collection of also-rans.
The ACC has been "good" to "mediocre" from top to bottom. Even Duke looked fairly respectable and posted a 4-8 record. Not too shabby considering the shape that program was in prior to Cutcliffe's arrival. However, the ACC lacks a clear-cut "great" team. Reminds me of the ACC back in the late 70's and early 80's when UNC and Maryland were winning conference titles, but getting lackluster bowl bids like the Peach. In that era, the only ACC teams to get good bowl bids were undefeated (Maryland in '76 to the Cotton Bowl and Clemson in '81 to the Orange Bowl).

While competitive, the ACC is not impressive.

[813Jag]

I think the issue that the ACC has is that most of the teams are young. Wake Forest was the most expierenced team with all those 5th year seniors. Next year teams like FSU, Miami, Georgia Tech, will be better because their young players were thrown in the fire this season.

[Touchdown Yosef]

The Big East and ACC this year demonstrate why autobids should not be awarded in Football

Don't forget the Pac 10

[Marcus Garvey]

The Big East and ACC this year demonstrate why autobids should not be awarded in Football

Here's the thinking behind that, and why it will continue.

Without the auto-bid, those conferences run the very real risk of falling behind and never getting another team into a BCS game for a significant length of time. By getting a bid to a major bowl game every year, they can stay relevant and make it through a "down period." Frankly, over the last 10 years, I can only think of the Big 12 and SEC as having never had a "down year."
The Pac-10 in '99 did, as did the Big East in '04 and '08. The ACC since '05 and Big 10 often seems to field the weakest 1 loss team.

All in all, but when people complain about the matchups and the "best" team not getting a shot at the title, then that means the BCS has succeeded in hoodwinking the majority of fans. They don't really care about the matchups unless it affects profit. So far it hasn't.

[BlueHen86]

Don't forget the Pac 10
Except that USC is a legitimate power that is worthy of a bid to a BCS bowl.

I don't think any Big East or ACC team is worthy of a BCS bowl bid this year. They should give their spots to Boise St and Ball St.

[nwFL Griz]

Except that USC is a legitimate power that is worthy of a bid to a BCS bowl.

I don't think any Big East or ACC team is worthy of a BCS bowl bid this year. They should give their spots to Boise St and Ball St.

Sorry but that's BS. USC might be a legitimate power (debatable), and I would agree that Boise St has an argument. But no way Ball St has anything to say. Their undefeated record is built upon nothing. Their best win is against a 3-9 Indiana team.

Not only that, but they were too cowardly to accept the challenge of playing Boise St in the Humanitarian Bowl.

[Marcus Garvey]

Sorry but that's BS. USC might be a legitimate power (debatable), and I would agree that Boise St has an argument. But no way Ball St has anything to say. Their undefeated record is built upon nothing. Their best win is against a 3-9 Indiana team.

Not only that, but they were too cowardly to accept the challenge of playing Boise St in the Humanitarian Bowl.

?????
Or you could say Boise was too cowardly to play Ball St. at a nuetral site. Boise wasn't willing to meet BSU halfway, they wanted a game completely on their terms.

Sounds like my brother-in-law's ex-wife. :D

[brownbear]

Except that USC is a legitimate power that is worthy of a bid to a BCS bowl.

I don't think any Big East or ACC team is worthy of a BCS bowl bid this year. They should give their spots to Boise St and Ball St.

Cincy is 10-2, as has already been said. They have more of a claim for a BCS bid than Ohio State has. That's who you should take your argument to. Don't try and pin the flaws of the BCS on giving ACC and Big East teams one (and only one) spot in the BCS. The real problem is the fact that Ohio State will be getting a BCS bowl bid just because they are powerful (politically) and the BCS is not meant to share the $$ with schools like Boise.

[Hoyadestroya85]

The big east has also won 2 consecutive BCS bowls...

[BlueHen86]

Cincy is 10-2, as has already been said. They have more of a claim for a BCS bid than Ohio State has. That's who you should take your argument to. Don't try and pin the flaws of the BCS on giving ACC and Big East teams one (and only one) spot in the BCS. The real problem is the fact that Ohio State will be getting a BCS bowl bid just because they are powerful (politically) and the BCS is not meant to share the $$ with schools like Boise.

I have a problem if Ohio St gets in as well. Texas Tech is move deserving, but most likely won't go because a conference can't have three teams in the BCS bowls.

There are many flaws with the BCS system. Autobids to the 6 power conferences is one of them. This year I think the Big East and ACC are down. Next year it might be the Pac 10 and Big 10.

I agree that the big 6 conferences have the system rigged to guarantee that they get most of the money.

The whole system sucks as far as I am concerned.

[Ivytalk]

I agree with Marcus Garvey that BC football fans don't travel very well, unless it's to Notre Dame. Virginia Tech will vastly outnumber them IMHO. And the stadium probably won't be half full. That said, the game should be competitive.xpeacex

[813Jag]

lots of Hokies are in town. I've only seen a couple of Eagle fans. Hope fans from both schools represent at the rally tonight.

[Cobblestone]

I went to the VA Tech vs. BC game this season @ BC.

VA Tech fans travel extremely well. In fact the only other ACC team that comes close in this category is Clemson.

[813Jag]

I went to the VA Tech vs. BC game this season @ BC.

VA Tech fans travel extremely well. In fact the only other ACC team that comes close in this category is Clemson.
I would say FSU travels well but I'm biased. xlolx

[nwFL Griz]

I would say FSU travels well but I'm biased. xlolx

Yes you are! xthumbsupx

But you are partially right. The travel very well in the state, or in the close proximity. But hardly at all outside the southeast.

[813Jag]

Yes you are! xthumbsupx

But you are partially right. The travel very well in the state, or in the close proximity. But hardly at all outside the southeast.
They represented pretty well at the Maryland game this season. They taken decent crowds to Boston as well.

[813Jag]

Gotta show some love to the Hokie fans those people know how to have a good time. I had a blast last night hanging out with them.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

This years game stinks and the attendance is worse than last year. If V-Tech ends up playing Texas, Ohio State or whoever they're going to get smoked.

[furman94]

I could have told you that when we played them back on September 6th! Attendance in TB is aweful! They should move it to Charlotte.

[813Jag]

This years game stinks and the attendance is worse than last year. If V-Tech ends up playing Texas, Ohio State or whoever they're going to get smoked.
They'll may end up playing Cincy. Their defense will help them beat Ohio State.

[813Jag]

I could have told you that when we played them back on September 6th! Attendance in TB is aweful! They should move it to Charlotte.
Charlotte in 2010. Next year's attendance will be better FSU/Miami. xlolx

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

They'll may end up playing Cincy. Their defense will help them beat Ohio State.

V-Tech's defense is pretty good but BC's QB play has been horrible without Crane.

[813Jag]

V-Tech's defense is pretty good but BC's QB play has been horrible without Crane.
I was surprised they won their last game without him.