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BobcatTXST04
November 29th, 2008, 01:38 PM
Hey everyone,
Since I won't be able to watch the game myself, I thought I'd start a game thread so that I can keep up with the game while I'm at work.
Hope this is an exciting game for both teams!
Eaglegus2
November 29th, 2008, 02:07 PM
Hetre is a link to watch the game over the net.
http://www.bigskytv.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=1
MaximumBobcat
November 29th, 2008, 02:13 PM
Cats start with a false start...
then a 17 yd pass to Stan Zwinggi. GO CATS
MaximumBobcat
November 29th, 2008, 02:14 PM
16 yd rec DILLARD! First down CATS!
In griz territory...
MaximumBobcat
November 29th, 2008, 02:18 PM
Cats kick a 47 yd FG.
3-0 CATS!
slycat
November 29th, 2008, 02:19 PM
FG good.
3-0 Cats
MaximumBobcat
November 29th, 2008, 02:26 PM
BOBCAT DEFENSE MAKES THE GRIZ PUNT ON THEIR FIRST OFFENSIVE DRIVE. xnodx xnodx xnodx
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 02:33 PM
Great open field tackle by Colt Anderson. He's a stud.
MaximumBobcat
November 29th, 2008, 02:35 PM
Bobcat offense stalls....crappy punt. Gives griz great field posi.
MaximumBobcat
November 29th, 2008, 02:36 PM
TEXAS STATE GETS A PICK! WOO!!
sl61
November 29th, 2008, 02:38 PM
I'm confused at why the Griz are not even trying to run the ball.
TexasTerror
November 29th, 2008, 02:39 PM
First 10 minutes -- Bobcats are doing well. This is un-Bobcatlike and truly the key to the game, setting the tone and being comfortable in this great football environment.
MaximumBobcat
November 29th, 2008, 02:41 PM
TD CATS!!!!!!!!!
txphi592
November 29th, 2008, 02:41 PM
10-0 Cats
GOKATS
November 29th, 2008, 02:42 PM
bobcats are looking good so far- keep it up!!
TexasTerror
November 29th, 2008, 02:42 PM
How are the Griz going to respond? George to Luke. Have we seen that this year? Was that their first hookup? ;)
Is this Griz radio commentator from Canada? Feel like I'm listening to Barry Melrose!
MSU_77
November 29th, 2008, 02:47 PM
I've been trying for over an hour to get to the video stream. What's the secret? I've been to bigskytv.org but I can't figure out how to get to the game. I have registered.
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 02:47 PM
50 yards in penalties so far for Griz...not exactly helping them get in a rythm. So far Texas State is outplaying UM.
TexasTerror
November 29th, 2008, 02:47 PM
I am having no problems here at my hotel. I do not think there's any trick. Isn't there a link to make sure your computer has the right requirements...?
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 02:48 PM
C'mon Berquist...settle down damn it. This isn't your first playoff game. start leading.
TexasTerror
November 29th, 2008, 02:50 PM
That commentator's voice was obnoxious when the Griz fell on the loose ball on the ground...these guys are great for entertainment value!
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 02:50 PM
Fumble by Texas State, recovered by the Griz. That's a momentum shifter if the Griz can capitalize with some points.
sl61
November 29th, 2008, 02:51 PM
Texas State Fumble.
I hope the Griz try and run the ball.
GOKATS
November 29th, 2008, 02:53 PM
I've been trying for over an hour to get to the video stream. What's the secret? I've been to bigskytv.org but I can't figure out how to get to the game. I have registered.
I'm watching it on tv but the link works fine- I just checked. On the right hand side click football and then the link for the game
cats2506
November 29th, 2008, 02:53 PM
Best offense the griz have seen since WSU
and the MVC refs are way better than BSC refs
MSU_77
November 29th, 2008, 02:57 PM
I'm watching it on tv but the link works fine- I just checked. On the right hand side click football and then the link for the game
There are no links on the right hand side. Dunno what the problem is - maybe there are too many viewers.
El Gato
November 29th, 2008, 02:57 PM
Best offense the griz have seen since WSU
and the MVC refs are way better than BSC refs
to bad can't say the same thing about the D.
MaximumBobcat
November 29th, 2008, 03:00 PM
WOOOOOO!!!!
UM goes for it on 4th in the redzone and they FUMBLE!!!
CATS BALL up 10-0.
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 03:01 PM
Griz should have kicked a field goal. Get some points on the board. Now we need the defense to make some more magic happin. How does a three and out sound?!!?
93henfan
November 29th, 2008, 03:01 PM
Lot of favorites not playing like it today. I guess turkey really does make you tired.
GOKATS
November 29th, 2008, 03:02 PM
Nice run!!
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 03:02 PM
Big running play by Texas State.
MaximumBobcat
November 29th, 2008, 03:02 PM
Griz should have kicked a field goal. Get some points on the board. Now we need the defense to make some more magic happin. How does a three and out sound?!!?
Sounds wrong to me.
Zwinggi with 21 yd run.
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 03:05 PM
I'd like to see the slow motion replay of that last play. Texas State's QB's left knee was potentially down before he threw it.
crunifan
November 29th, 2008, 03:05 PM
Best offense the griz have seen since WSU
and the MVC refs are way better than BSC refs
Don't tell NDSU fans that.
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 03:06 PM
What's going on Griz? These Bobcats are showing some mettle...
cats2506
November 29th, 2008, 03:09 PM
good feild position cats,
and I wonder who got BSC refs today?
putter
November 29th, 2008, 03:11 PM
3rd week in a row the Griz have not shown up for a 1st half. This is rediculous!! xsmhx
bobcatfan06
November 29th, 2008, 03:14 PM
WHOOOOHOOOO let's go Bobcats!!!!
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 03:18 PM
Griz need some points before the half...
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 03:19 PM
What's going on Griz? These Bobcats are showing some mettle...
The Griz look like they're as sharp as they are expected to be in Spring Drills. Problem is, this is the playoffs. Texas State definitely came to play and aren't intimidated of the atmosphere.
If the Griz can score some points before half and come out and play stronger in the second half like they typically do under Coach Hauck the game should get more interesting.
bobcatfan06
November 29th, 2008, 03:20 PM
Dammit, c'mon D!!! at least hold them to a FG.
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 03:20 PM
Damn, Baylor is a beast.
bobcatfan06
November 29th, 2008, 03:21 PM
This is the best half of defensive football I've seen from a Bobcat team since '05 against Cal Poly.
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 03:21 PM
"And a celebration after a 3 yard play. Guess he hasn't celebrated much in his life..."
xlolx xlolx xlolx
GOKATS
November 29th, 2008, 03:22 PM
WHOOOOHOOOO let's go Bobcats!!!!
xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 03:23 PM
Question is, will they get 7, or will they have to settle for 3?
bobcatfan06
November 29th, 2008, 03:23 PM
F.
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 03:23 PM
TD pass to Mariani... big surprise!
TexasTerror
November 29th, 2008, 03:24 PM
Grizwalds TD! Mariani...Griz show some life.
This should get interesting...personal foul on TXST.
bobcatfan06
November 29th, 2008, 03:24 PM
I hate roughing the passer calls. It's football, they deserve to be hit. And I'd say the same thing if it was Bradley George getting nailed.
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 03:25 PM
I wonder if the Griz take control of this game - how quickly the Montana State fans will disappear back into the woodwork. xthumbsupx
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 03:25 PM
xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx
I don't want to say it because it's so cliché, but "typical Bobcat." The overwhelming majority of Griz fans I know would be cheering for Montana State if they were playing today. Cheer for your Conference to succeed as it only helps with national recognition and respect.xthumbsupx
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 03:26 PM
Nice to see Mariani getting a score and he's not at 100% today. Let's go Griz!
MaximumBobcat
November 29th, 2008, 03:28 PM
UM should get the ball to start the 2nd half, with the chance to go up 14-10.
We screwed up majorly by not cashing in on one of our stalled offensive drives in the 1st half.
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 03:31 PM
UM should get the ball to start the 2nd half, with the chance to go up 14-10.
We screwed up majorly by not cashing in on one of our stalled offensive drives in the 1st half.
So did Montana from what I hear... fumbling in the redzone on 4th down? xnonono2x
cats2506
November 29th, 2008, 03:32 PM
I don't want to say it because it's so cliché, but "typical Bobcat." The overwhelming majority of Griz fans I know would be cheering for Montana State if they were playing today. Cheer for your Conference to succeed as it only helps with national recognition and respect.xthumbsupx
Do you think BH would ever root for us, with such a classless coach yuor nuts to expect us to ever root for the jizz
GO CATS and FTG
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 03:33 PM
Do you think BH would ever root for us, with such a classless coach yuor nuts to expect us to ever root for the jizz
GO CATS and FTG
Actually yeah he was outspoken about supporting MSU when you played Furman.
But no biggie - if I had nothing to watch this weekend I'd probably be the same way.
Anyway, GO GRIZ
cats2506
November 29th, 2008, 03:37 PM
Actually yeah he was outspoken about supporting MSU when you played Furman.
But no biggie - if I had nothing to watch this weekend I'd probably be the same way.
Anyway, GO GRIZ
yeah BH is so classy ..... NOT
FTG
El Gato
November 29th, 2008, 03:38 PM
Anyone having issues with the Big Sky feed? I got this access denied message and so I pulled it up on Internet Explorer and it's up but the feed keeps cutting in and out.
SeattleGriz
November 29th, 2008, 03:39 PM
Anyone having issues with the Big Sky feed? I got this access denied message and so I pulled it up on Internet Explorer and it's up but the feed keeps cutting in and out.
Same here. Lets hope they work the kinks out.
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 03:39 PM
Do you think BH would ever root for us, with such a classless coach yuor nuts to expect us to ever root for the jizz
GO CATS and FTG
My comment wasn't about Bobby Hauck, it was about the majority of Griz fans I know and associate with. I was yelling at the tv last year for EWU to beat ASU and the year before that the Bobcats to beat ASU.
Referring to my team as "the jizz" shows that you are a true class act yourself.xrolleyesx
I'll continue to root for the Bobcats and any other team in the Big Sky when they make the playoffs unless the Griz are ever matched up against them (which may happen next week if both the Griz and Weber State win today).xpeacex
bobcatfan06
November 29th, 2008, 03:40 PM
I can't believe I'm watching a Texas State game in my apartment in Dallas. Never thought that would ever happen.
TexasTerror
November 29th, 2008, 03:40 PM
No problems -- watching on IE. Cuts up a bit, but I am on a weaker connection (wireless) than I usually am...figure most of the problems are related to the amount of people watching.
They showed the highlights on ESPN by the way...
SeattleGriz
November 29th, 2008, 03:40 PM
I can't believe I'm watching a Texas State game in my apartment in Dallas. Never thought that would ever happen.
Its nice being able to watch your team from anywhere. Everywhere I have lived, I either could find a bar that would pick up the satellite feed, or watch it via the net.
GOKATS
November 29th, 2008, 03:41 PM
I don't want to say it because it's so cliché, but "typical Bobcat." The overwhelming majority of Griz fans I know would be cheering for Montana State if they were playing today. Cheer for your Conference to succeed as it only helps with national recognition and respect.xthumbsupx
FTG!!! I root for two teams- The Bobcats and whoever is playing against the griz.
bobcatfan06
November 29th, 2008, 03:42 PM
Its nice being able to watch your team from anywhere. Everywhere I have lived, I either could find a bar that would pick up the satellite feed, or watch it via the net.
See but that's Montana...this is Texas State. Nobody outside San Marcos cares, so therefore no TV. But this is awesome...
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 03:42 PM
FTG!!! I root for two teams- The Bobcats and whoever is playing against the griz.
You guys are just making yourself look even more sad.
That's it.
They showed the TSU-UM highlights on SportsCenter just now. FCS gettin some respect!
matfu
November 29th, 2008, 03:42 PM
score?
TexasTerror
November 29th, 2008, 03:43 PM
score?
TXST 10-7 Montana HALF
Momentum in Griz favor. Last minute TD and get ball to start second.
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 03:44 PM
FTG!!! I root for two teams- The Bobcats and whoever is playing against the griz.
Why so much hate? "FTG"??? Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? :D
cats2506
November 29th, 2008, 03:46 PM
My comment wasn't about Bobby Hauck, it was about the majority of Griz fans I know and associate with. I was yelling at the tv last year for EWU to beat ASU and the year before that the Bobcats to beat ASU.
Referring to my team as "the jizz" shows that you are a true class act yourself.xrolleyesx
I'll continue to root for the Bobcats and any other team in the Big Sky when they make the playoffs unless the Griz are ever matched up against them (which may happen next week if both the Griz and Weber State win today).xpeacex
I will be rooting for WSU, and did for EWU last year, but when BH does the things he has done, I wont ever roof for the jizz until he is gone, and maybe not then given your fanbase is such jerks.
GOKATS
November 29th, 2008, 03:47 PM
Why so much hate? "FTG"??? Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? :D
She passed away five years ago, so FO!!
bobcatfan06
November 29th, 2008, 03:49 PM
C'mon Bobcats...lets see some fire. I want someone to go down the field and absolutely headhunt on the Griz returner.
cats2506
November 29th, 2008, 03:50 PM
ESG GO CATS GO
FTG
Come on Texas, the jizz will try to take the ball and burn 10:00 on a drive to get the go ahead score, your D needs to stop them on this drive and set the tone for the second half.
johndnelson
November 29th, 2008, 03:50 PM
FTG!!! I root for two teams- The Bobcats and whoever is playing against the griz.
Holy cow, how did you come up with that gem? It's great to see that you support your team by quoting a T-Shirt you'd find at the finest truck stops across the state. I'm hoping for a "Guck the Friz" post next!
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 03:50 PM
Funny how MSU fans are interrupting a game thread and saying FTG to try to say how "classless" the fans are of the team who just destroyed them 35-3 the week before......xrolleyesx xlolx
El Gato
November 29th, 2008, 03:51 PM
Some more options:
Stretch internet Through the Texas State Athletics page
http://txstatebobcats.cstv.com/multimedia/txst-stretch-multimedia.html
or ktsw:
http://www.ktsw.net/
bobcatfan06
November 29th, 2008, 03:51 PM
C'mon Bobcats...lets see some fire. I want someone to go down the field and absolutely headhunt on the Griz returner.
Just like that....wedge busting is fun.
bobcatfan06
November 29th, 2008, 03:52 PM
Funny how MSU fans are interrupting a game thread and saying FTG to try to say how "classless" the fans are of the team who just destroyed them 35-3 the week before......xrolleyesx xlolx
My Zod you guys are relentless. In case you didn't notice, Texas State is playing the Griz.
bobcatfan06
November 29th, 2008, 03:53 PM
Sonofa....here we go. Return of the horrendous defense.
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 03:53 PM
My Zod you guys are relentless. In case you didn't notice, Texas State is playing the Griz.
And I couldn't agree more. xthumbsupx xthumbsupx
cats2506
November 29th, 2008, 03:55 PM
Funny how MSU fans are interrupting a game thread and saying FTG to try to say how "classless" the fans are of the team who just destroyed them 35-3 the week before......xrolleyesx xlolx
Dont get so butt hurt, just because we dont cheer for you
FTG
GO CATS
johndnelson
November 29th, 2008, 03:55 PM
Get your motor runnin' Cole! TD GRIZ!
bobcatfan06
November 29th, 2008, 03:56 PM
That was f'ing terrible defense, Bobcats....
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 03:56 PM
BERGQUIST
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 03:57 PM
14-10 Montana over Texas State. Nice way to start the 2nd half Griz. Keep it rollin' baby.
cats2506
November 29th, 2008, 03:58 PM
do you guys ever advertise your school, or just the football team?
El Gato
November 29th, 2008, 03:59 PM
Someone let me know if your bigsky feed comes back.
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 03:59 PM
do you guys ever advertise your school, or just the football team?
Right as I read your post I was listening to an ad for the University of Montana xthumbsupx
Do you guys have a football team to advertise? xconfusedx
putter
November 29th, 2008, 03:59 PM
Dont get so butt hurt, just because we dont cheer for you
FTG
GO CATS
Who are you all kidding. If you ever get a Bobcat alum as a coach who hates the Griz as much as Hauck hates the Cats you would be loving it.
putter
November 29th, 2008, 03:59 PM
Someone let me know if your bigsky feed comes back.
Its back.....well was for a second
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 04:00 PM
Is Big Sky TV finally working?
cats2506
November 29th, 2008, 04:00 PM
Tx Try rebooting to get BigSkyTV back
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 04:02 PM
Griz D licking their chops
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 04:03 PM
Nice stop Griz Defense. Sack to force the punt!
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 04:05 PM
Montana at the TSU 28 now.
Rollin rollin rollin
stevdock
November 29th, 2008, 04:05 PM
what's the score??
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 04:05 PM
what's the score??
14-10 Montana.
dgreco
November 29th, 2008, 04:08 PM
14-10 Montana.
Are we gonna see a Wofford all over again :D
bobcatfan06
November 29th, 2008, 04:09 PM
Bout to be 21-10 and ballgame.
johndnelson
November 29th, 2008, 04:09 PM
TD GRIZ-21-10! Chase Reynolds is taking this game over
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 04:10 PM
Grizzly bears woke up
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 04:12 PM
Are we gonna see a Wofford all over again :D
I sure hope not. Chase Reynolds has rumbled for 150 yards on the ground today and just scored a TD.
21-10 Griz with approximately 5:00 minutes left in the 3rd Quarter.
cats2506
November 29th, 2008, 04:12 PM
Tx better come back and score now, or else its gonna be over.
bobcatfan06
November 29th, 2008, 04:14 PM
Well.....maybe I spoke too soon.
bobcatfan06
November 29th, 2008, 04:16 PM
And that was a piss poor effort from 1st and goal by the bobcats.
GOKATS
November 29th, 2008, 04:17 PM
Bobcats need some D now!!
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 04:18 PM
TSU 13
UM 21
3:22 3rd
mistersykes
November 29th, 2008, 04:18 PM
Just a FYI, on ESPN, they just gave huge props to Montana and Washington-Griz, saying it was a great place to watch a game, always packing in 21,000+, making the playoffs every year, etc. They showed about a minute of the game too, but high praise from the FBS lovers...
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 04:20 PM
Just a FYI, on ESPN, they just gave huge props to Montana and Washington-Griz, saying it was a great place to watch a game, always packing in 21,000+, making the playoffs every year, etc. They showed about a minute of the game too, but high praise from the FBS lovers...
Nice. I was watching earlier and they opened up after the break asking if App was going to 4 peat.
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 04:21 PM
Chase Reynolds just being Chase Reynolds
johndnelson
November 29th, 2008, 04:26 PM
The Bobcats are starting to lose it in Wa-Griz. The penalties will kill any hope they have if they keep it up. 21-13 going to the 4th.
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 04:26 PM
Bobcats killing themselves with personal fouls
GOKATS
November 29th, 2008, 04:26 PM
2 PF's in a row- stupid. Might as well just hand it to the griz.
txst_wtc
November 29th, 2008, 04:28 PM
You could tell txst was about to get penalty cuz montana has been talking mad crap and txst keeps retaliating.
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 04:30 PM
You could tell txst was about to get penalty cuz montana has been talking mad crap and txst keeps retaliating.
Not sure if that's accurate.
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 04:30 PM
That was a tough run by CB. Should've been 6
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 04:30 PM
THE GAME IS ON ESPN!
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 04:30 PM
WOW! Berquist showin' some major heart and determination carrying a few Bobcats with him to within an inch of the goal line.
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 04:30 PM
That should seal the deal.
theasushow
November 29th, 2008, 04:31 PM
espn doing live look-in
johndnelson
November 29th, 2008, 04:31 PM
TD Reynolds and a 28-13 lead for the Griz! Reynolds ties Lex Hilliard and Yo Humphrey for TDs in a season at 17. Nice company.
theasushow
November 29th, 2008, 04:31 PM
espn doing live look-in
and look-in over.
cats2506
November 29th, 2008, 04:32 PM
You could tell txst was about to get penalty cuz montana has been talking mad crap and txst keeps retaliating.
normal jiz football (talking crap, and shoving ect....)
PF cost you that drive
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 04:32 PM
THE GAME IS ON ESPN!
Sweet! That was a nice live look in.
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 04:32 PM
Sweet! That was a nice live look in.
Yeah sorry for the excitement. Just looked up at the TV and got really really confused.
txst_wtc
November 29th, 2008, 04:35 PM
Not sure if that's accurate.
Plenty accurate, our guys are just too stupid and i guess dont know that the 2nd guy always gets caught.
johndnelson
November 29th, 2008, 04:38 PM
BOTH sides of the ball for these Personal Fouls and now an ejection? Texas State is falling apart at the seems and playing some dirty football. No matter what anybody says to you, you're grown men and you've gotta play like that otherwise the trip back to Texas is gonna be long and quiet. PICKED OFF-GRIZ BALL!!!
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 04:39 PM
Cole forced that throw. He had been playing much better over the last 2 quarters. We should have come away from that turnover and field position with at least 3 points.
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 04:39 PM
Crazy 3 plays... ejection, pick, and pick. xlolx
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 04:43 PM
Nice 4th down play!
johndnelson
November 29th, 2008, 04:43 PM
HUGE 4th down conversion for the Bobcats. 1st and G
johndnelson
November 29th, 2008, 04:43 PM
GRIZ BALL ON A FUMBLE RECOVERY INSIDE THE 10!!!!!
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 04:43 PM
Ouch. Costly fumble. Montana ball.
SeattleGriz
November 29th, 2008, 04:44 PM
Montana's D is turning up the pressure.
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 04:45 PM
Run the ball Griz and eat up the clock.
cats2506
November 29th, 2008, 04:47 PM
Ahh FTG
Lets go Weber
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 04:49 PM
Ahh FTG
Lets go Weber
Thanks for spending part of your afternoon watching the GRIZ pull out a victory. xthumbsupx
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 04:50 PM
Ahh FTG
Lets go Weber
xlolx xlolx
Just another year
johndnelson
November 29th, 2008, 04:50 PM
37 for 232 for Reynolds...lookin' to break the school record!
cats2506
November 29th, 2008, 04:52 PM
xlolx xlolx
Just another year
No it's an unusual year, jizz are going to make it through the first round of the PO's
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 04:53 PM
No it's an unusual year, jizz are going to make it through the first round of the PO's
Yeah, so different from 2006, 2004, 2002, 2001 and 2000.
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 04:54 PM
Well, looks like the Griz are gonna throw the monkey off. Congrats!
patssle
November 29th, 2008, 04:55 PM
This game is going as expected. Montana has the best defense TXST has seen. TXST has poor defense. I would say TXST defense is doing better than expected. Offense is facing a true defense and being stopped, something SLC schools don't have.
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 04:55 PM
37 for 232 for Reynolds...lookin' to break the school record!
Dang, he may also break the record for most ice needed to keep the soreness down on his knees.
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 04:56 PM
Will the real Bobcats please stand up? :D
DuckDuckGriz
November 29th, 2008, 04:57 PM
Will the real Bobcats please stand up? :D
They did. :D Much better than the girl scouts from Bozo.
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 04:59 PM
Texas State vs. Montana State... battle of the Bobkittens. That'd be a fun game to watch! xthumbsupx
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 05:01 PM
"It'll be back to back Bobcat stew." xlolx
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 05:01 PM
Gotta love those announcers.
sl61
November 29th, 2008, 05:06 PM
Lot of intensity for a goal line stand that doesnt mean anything.
Screamin_Eagle174
November 29th, 2008, 05:06 PM
Great game Griz. If only you learned how to play the 1st and 2nd quarter...
TxState_GO_CATS!
November 29th, 2008, 05:06 PM
Congrats Grizzlies. Give 'em HeLL.
MaximumBobcat
November 29th, 2008, 05:07 PM
'Grats on a good game Griz.
johndnelson
November 29th, 2008, 05:07 PM
For all of the early cobwebs, the Griz really looked great today. Holding a team that scores 38 points a game to 13? Reynolds for well over 200 yards on the ground. It'll be a tough test next week against either WSU or Cal Poly, but their D is looking great right now. GO GRIZ!
GrizDen
November 29th, 2008, 05:11 PM
Thanks to all the Texas State fans that posted today.
txst_wtc
November 29th, 2008, 05:15 PM
Two fumbles lost the game for us. Fumble on the 30 going it while up 10-0 and fumble on 4 to cut it to 8.
patssle
November 29th, 2008, 05:19 PM
3rd straight year of the SLC going one and done in the playoffs.
5 times this decade the SLC had to play Montana in the 1st round in Wa-Griz
1-8 SLC vs. Montana in playoffs this decade
Sucks for the SLC, our playoffs almost always going through Montana.
JohnStOnge
November 29th, 2008, 05:37 PM
3rd straight year of the SLC going one and done in the playoffs.
5 times this decade the SLC had to play Montana in the 1st round in Wa-Griz
1-8 SLC vs. Montana in playoffs this decade
Sucks for the SLC, our playoffs almost always going through Montana.
The Southland used to be a lot better relative to other conferences than it is now. Things have really gone down in recent years, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. I know one could say Texas State could've scored a little more without turnovers but one could also say Montana helped Texas State a lot early with unforced turnovers like the receiver slipping down to create an interception and the pulling lineman knocking the ball out of the QBs hand inside the five yard line. Also a key personal foul against Montana to help Texas State with respect to its only touchdown.
Bottom line is that what I saw was consistent with what I expected. The big offensive numbers we saw in the Southland this year were more a function of the Southland teams being bad on defense than being all that great on offense. Whether they could've scored a few more points or not Texas State's offense looked pretty average once it lined up against a decent defense. A little factoid: Against opponents that made the FCS playoffs, Southland teams scored 14, 18, and 13 points.
Anyway, to me, it's a shame that a league that has its footprint in Louisiana and Texas can't put better teams on the field than the Southland does.
Grizball
November 29th, 2008, 05:39 PM
No it's an unusual year, jizz are going to make it through the first round of the PO's
no, it is usual... the bozo's are home... watching the Griz
patssle
November 29th, 2008, 05:46 PM
The Southland used to be a lot better relative to other conferences than it is now. Things have really gone down in recent years, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. I know one could say Texas State could've scored a little more without turnovers but one could also say Montana helped Texas State a lot early with unforced turnovers like the receiver slipping down to create an interception and the pulling lineman knocking the ball out of the QBs hand inside the five yard line. Also a key personal foul against Montana to help Texas State with respect to its only touchdown.
Bottom line is that what I saw was consistent with what I expected. The big offensive numbers we saw in the Southland this year were more a function of the Southland teams being bad on defense than being all that great on offense. Whether they could've scored a few more points or not Texas State's offense looked pretty average once it lined up against a decent defense. A little factoid: Against opponents that made the FCS playoffs, Southland teams scored 14, 18, and 13 points.
Anyway, to me, it's a shame that a league that has its footprint in Louisiana and Texas can't put better teams on the field than the Southland does.
The SLC has started picking it back up though, recovering from the hurricanes. We had a winning OOC this year - something we lacked the previous 2 seasons. But we need to win playoff games, and more than 1 team in the playoffs.
griz37
November 29th, 2008, 06:04 PM
Lot of intensity for a goal line stand that doesnt mean anything.
I was one of those still cheering my ass off. It may not have affected the outcome but that is still OUR end zone & we don't want any other team scoring in it.
GrizFanStuckInUtah
November 29th, 2008, 06:10 PM
After watching the game, I think both sides were talking a bit too much, I don't like it much. I didn't see why the one guy got kicked, but they were letting a lot of stuff go by with no penalty, so it must have been warranted. TX State showed up to play today, the Griz showed up in the second half to play. The thing I found interesting, was the way Tx St lined up for D, they were daring us to throw the ball, single man, no help over the top most of the time. When the Griz decided to run the ball, they still didn't stop the run, even with 9 in the box. Good game TX St even with the loss, you showed up to play and didn't quit.
sl61
November 29th, 2008, 06:14 PM
I was one of those still cheering my ass off. It may not have affected the outcome but that is still OUR end zone & we don't want any other team scoring in it.
It was a very impressive way to end the game. I look forward to watching next weeks game. Should be fun.
gbhmt
November 29th, 2008, 06:16 PM
I was one of those still cheering my ass off. It may not have affected the outcome but that is still OUR end zone & we don't want any other team scoring in it.
I'm a north end zone crazy for life and I can tell you that it was the hardest I was cheering all game.
BestOfBreed
November 29th, 2008, 06:17 PM
Congrats Griz!
txstatebobcat
November 29th, 2008, 06:17 PM
The Southland used to be a lot better relative to other conferences than it is now. Things have really gone down in recent years, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. I know one could say Texas State could've scored a little more without turnovers but one could also say Montana helped Texas State a lot early with unforced turnovers like the receiver slipping down to create an interception and the pulling lineman knocking the ball out of the QBs hand inside the five yard line. Also a key personal foul against Montana to help Texas State with respect to its only touchdown.
Bottom line is that what I saw was consistent with what I expected. The big offensive numbers we saw in the Southland this year were more a function of the Southland teams being bad on defense than being all that great on offense. Whether they could've scored a few more points or not Texas State's offense looked pretty average once it lined up against a decent defense. A little factoid: Against opponents that made the FCS playoffs, Southland teams scored 14, 18, and 13 points.
Anyway, to me, it's a shame that a league that has its footprint in Louisiana and Texas can't put better teams on the field than the Southland does.
First of all, Congrats to the Griz you guys were the better team today. Defense wins championships and you guys definitely have it. Good luck and rest asured that bobcat fans here in Texas will be cheering for you guys to win it all.
As far as defenses in the SLC go, at least for TxSt, it all starts at the D-line. The times when I can say that TxSt had really good defenses (98,99,2000) or even slightly above average defenses (2001, 2005) was when we had good players at the D-line position.
Texas and Louisiana have tons of talent, but with every one and their mother recruiting those states it has become increasingly difficult to find better than average d-linemen. I think that SLC schools need to start looking at other states for d-linemen. I know that our last great defensive tackle (Fred Evans currently playing pro-football) was originally from Illinois.
gbhmt
November 29th, 2008, 06:19 PM
I got the pleasure of meeting Larry Teis, the AD at Texas State, and he's a really nice guy. Good program you guys have got goin there.
Cat79
November 29th, 2008, 06:22 PM
Congrats to the Griz!! Go the the NC!!
We are still feeling positive knowing that most of our team comes back next season.
TxState_GO_CATS!
November 29th, 2008, 06:24 PM
Congrats to the Griz!! Go the the NC!!
We are still feeling positive knowing that most of our team comes back next season.
yeah next year could be something IF Bleil goes and recruits defense like CRAZY. new system this year...maybe next year's defense will be better?
cats2506
November 29th, 2008, 06:24 PM
After watching the game, I think both sides were talking a bit too much, I don't like it much. I didn't see why the one guy got kicked, but they were letting a lot of stuff go by with no penalty, so it must have been warranted. TX State showed up to play today, the Griz showed up in the second half to play. The thing I found interesting, was the way Tx St lined up for D, they were daring us to throw the ball, single man, no help over the top most of the time. When the Griz decided to run the ball, they still didn't stop the run, even with 9 in the box. Good game TX St even with the loss, you showed up to play and didn't quit.
I think he threw a punch (possible low blow) at the griz ball carrier while in the pile. Its not real clear but it looks like thats what happened.
gbhmt
November 29th, 2008, 06:25 PM
I think he threw a punch (possible low blow) at the griz ball carrier while in the pile. Its not real clear but it looks like thats what happened.
I didn't even know it happened until I read this thread, I couldn't hear the ref talking.
AZGrizFan
November 29th, 2008, 06:27 PM
No it's an unusual year, jizz are going to make it through the first round of the PO's
I'm going to assume, in the interest of fairness, that this bobcat poster was given a strike for smacking in a discussion thread?
Mods? Agsadmin? Wherefore art thou?
xrolleyesx xrolleyesx xrolleyesx
Proud Griz Man
November 29th, 2008, 06:37 PM
First of all, Congrats to the Griz you guys were the better team today. Defense wins championships and you guys definitely have it. Good luck and rest asured that bobcat fans here in Texas will be cheering for you guys to win it all.
.
Same back to you txstatebobcat. You have talented players and are a promising football program.
slycat
November 29th, 2008, 07:21 PM
Congrats Montana.
That was a great game and y'all never gave up. I never truly expected to win that game but when the Cats were up 10-0 for most of the first half I really got my hopes up. That was a tough loss. Only getting 3 points when having first and goal from 6 yard line or less, three times in the game, really hurt.
The finally score does not indicate how close of a game it really was. Best of luck to the Griz.
AZGrizFan
November 29th, 2008, 07:22 PM
Congrats Montana.
That was a great game and y'all never gave up. I never truly expected to win that game but when the Cats were up 10-0 for most of the first half I really got my hopes up. That was a tough loss. Only getting 3 points when having first and goal from 6 yard line or less, three times in the game, really hurt.
The finally score does not indicate how close of a game it really was. Best of luck to the Griz.
I think the final score IS indicative....the first half was competitive, and the second half was not. Once you took a 10-0 lead, we outscored you 31-3. You guys played a great 1st qtr, but it was all downhill after that.
veinup
November 29th, 2008, 07:35 PM
Good game 'Cats. Had us all scared for a while there, no doubt.
Peems
November 29th, 2008, 07:43 PM
Great game Tx.St! Luke really was all you cracked him up to be! Wish Tru Johnson could have gotten the chance to cover him. Though the game might have been chippy, afterwards your players were very respectful as they left through the tunnel. I got a few waves and thank yous as we cheered for them. Good luck in the SLC next year!!!
slycat
November 29th, 2008, 07:57 PM
I think the final score IS indicative....the first half was competitive, and the second half was not. Once you took a 10-0 lead, we outscored you 31-3. You guys played a great 1st qtr, but it was all downhill after that.
Well we got in close to score three times and only got three points. If all would have been TDs it would have been a tie game.
Of course there are a lot of wouldas so big deal.
Y'all have a heck of a running back.
WyomingGrizFan
November 29th, 2008, 07:59 PM
I think he threw a punch (possible low blow) at the griz ball carrier while in the pile. Its not real clear but it looks like thats what happened.
That's rather interesting. Meaning, that is, that it was # 77 an offensive lineman (right tackle if not mistaken) for Texas State, Michael Schneeweis, a 6' 3" 335 lb Jr. JC Transfer out of Fullerton College, that the Television broadcast spot-lited standing on the sidelines with no one else standing next to him that was supposedly the player ejected from the game.
It was when TXST had possession that the incident occurred.
But what would one expect from an MSU-Bobcat anyways? Just seemingly ranting and raving about this and that without any semblance of facts whatsoever. Their assessments of the Griz aren't exactly based on known evidence either. But it shouldn't surprise me any that they can't tell defense from offense anyways. We've had a long bout with them and it always seems to be that way, for the most part. It's one of their puberty rites evidently over in Bozo-ville: to burp and fart at the same time. After they attain their rite of passage, to paraphase:..."want to watch me drool?"
Carry on.
gbhmt
November 29th, 2008, 07:59 PM
Well we got in close to score three times and only got three points. If all would have been TDs it would have been a tie game.
Of course there are a lot of wouldas so big deal.
Y'all have a heck of a running back.
Hard to believe he was playing 8-man football two years ago.
AZGrizFan
November 29th, 2008, 08:01 PM
Well we got in close to score three times and only got three points. If all would have been TDs it would have been a tie game.
Of course there are a lot of wouldas so big deal.
Y'all have a heck of a running back.
Exactly...and we fumbled at the 5 yard line which would have given US another score...it was a good game all around, and I wasn't comfortable until we came out and punched in two quick ones to start the second half... xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx
Grizaholic17
November 29th, 2008, 08:03 PM
That's rather interesting. Meaning, that is, that it was # 77 an offensive lineman (right tackle if not mistaken) for Texas State, Michael Schneeweis, a 6' 3" 335 lb Jr. JC Transfer out of Fullerton College, that the Television broadcast spot-lited standing on the sidelines with no one else standing next to him that was supposedly the player ejected from the game.
It was when TXST had possession that the incident occurred.
I thought the number was #70. Then again I was pretty high up in the stands.
EDIT: Those refs were absolutely HORRID! They could have easily given that game away.
WyomingGrizFan
November 29th, 2008, 08:29 PM
I thought the number was #70. Then again I was pretty high up in the stands.
I think you're correct on that now that I remember. I do recall G. Bennett mentioning the right tackle being the individual assessed the ejection. That would have been #70 Calvin Gore, a 6' 3" 295 lb Jr. His bio has him mentioned as an eleven game starter for their 2007 season at that position. I saw him standing from his side and though his number was #77 but the name Gore sounds familiar according what the broadcasters were saying; watching the game in a bar/lounge etc. didn't quite help but the name sounds familiar now.
Grizaholic17
November 29th, 2008, 08:38 PM
I think you're correct on that now that I remember. I do recall G. Bennett mentioning the right tackle being the individual assessed the ejection. That would have been #70 Calvin Gore, a 6' 3" 295 lb Jr. His bio has him mentioned as an eleven game starter for their 2007 season at that position. I saw him standing from his side and though his number was #77 but the name Gore sounds familiar according what the broadcasters were saying; watching the game in a bar/lounge etc. didn't quite help but the name sounds familiar now.
It happens. Great show up today griz fans. We were a loud 19,440 today!
TheRevSWT
November 30th, 2008, 02:54 AM
First, let me say (belated though) a huge congrats on a great game to the Montana folks.
Y'all came in with a gameplan and even when the execution wasn't there, you stuck to it. Made the necessary halftime adjustments, and did what champions do: You didn't get rattled.
I wish nothing but the best in the future playoffs. However, if we ever meet up again in the playoffs, I wish you nothing but the worst.
xthumbsupx
Hard to believe he was playing 8-man football two years ago.
This I don't find hard to believe given the number of carries he had. 8-man football makes a man of you but quick, and his endurance really showed in how strong he carried in the 4th after y'all rode him through the early game.
Kid's got talent, and even though my first thought on him is "dang, he's lanky for a RB", he sure showed why he's starting for y'all. The kid hit the hole hard, didn't shy from contact, and was really a key piece in the win today.
Screamin_Eagle174
November 30th, 2008, 02:57 AM
It happens. Great show up today griz fans. We were a loud 19,440 today!
Only?
I know it was Thanksgiving weekend and all, but a Montana PLAYOFF game that didn't sell out? xeekx
Seriously, wtf? xconfusedx
putter
November 30th, 2008, 02:59 AM
Only?
I know it was Thanksgiving weekend and all, but a Montana PLAYOFF game that didn't sell out? xeekx
Seriously, wtf? xconfusedx
Thanksgiving game never sells out. Too many people home with family or out trying to fill that elk tag. However, the 19,000 that show up are the die hard fans....no wine an cheese crowd at this one.
Cleets
November 30th, 2008, 03:06 AM
Did any team get over 20K today..?? (I doubt it) xeyebrowx
!
Silenoz
November 30th, 2008, 03:07 AM
That commentator's voice was obnoxious when the Griz fell on the loose ball on the ground...these guys are great for entertainment value!
Thank god for home games, so I don't have to watch our broadcasts xlolx
Silenoz
November 30th, 2008, 03:26 AM
Only?
I know it was Thanksgiving weekend and all, but a Montana PLAYOFF game that didn't sell out? xeekx
Seriously, wtf? xconfusedx
Our Thanksgiving weekend games are always light in attendance. Annoys me big time, but not everyone in Missoula (or Montana) is as passionate about the Griz
putter
November 30th, 2008, 03:36 AM
Good game by both teams today. Boy, I go over to bobcatfans.com and they are just slamming the Griz. I can't remember other SLC fans chirping the way that they are doing after the game. The Griz only won because of TSU turnovers, superior athletes to ours except the OLine which is where they lost the game. xrolleyesx
Both teams made mistakes but Montana's running game took over (thank god!!) adn put the game away. Bobcats were a good team and have a good future ahead of them.
Bobcat94
November 30th, 2008, 09:57 AM
Good game Griz. I really do think the penalties kept this game from being close, not saying the Bobcats would have one, just that this game was closer the the score indicated.
The Bobcats will be back, very soon.
Ronbo
November 30th, 2008, 10:41 AM
First, let me say (belated though) a huge congrats on a great game to the Montana folks.
Y'all came in with a gameplan and even when the execution wasn't there, you stuck to it. Made the necessary halftime adjustments, and did what champions do: You didn't get rattled.
I wish nothing but the best in the future playoffs. However, if we ever meet up again in the playoffs, I wish you nothing but the worst.
xthumbsupx
This I don't find hard to believe given the number of carries he had. 8-man football makes a man of you but quick, and his endurance really showed in how strong he carried in the 4th after y'all rode him through the early game.
Kid's got talent, and even though my first thought on him is "dang, he's lanky for a RB", he sure showed why he's starting for y'all. The kid hit the hole hard, didn't shy from contact, and was really a key piece in the win today.
Thanks for the kudos for Chase. The kid does hit the hole hard and is very tenacious. Check this shot out.
http://filemanager.montanagrizzlies.com/mtgriz3/landing_pages/files/football/2008/Chase_Reynolds3.jpg
JohnStOnge
November 30th, 2008, 10:49 AM
<<Both teams made mistakes but Montana's running game took over (thank god!!) adn put the game away. .>>
I think most of us tend to notice the mistakes the team we're pulling for makes more than we notice those of the other team. Most Bobcat fans probably weren't paying attention to how much Montana was hurting itself early on when it got down 10 - 0. I looked up the play by play.
First the summary: Until Texas State fumbled with about a minute to go in the first quarter, Montana had 4 penalties for 50 yards while Texas State had two for 8. Montana also had the only turnover. But the details show how Montana couldn't get out of its own way.
On Montana's first drive they hit a pass for a first down at their 41. But on the next play they get called for holding to put themselves in 1st and 20. They get 15 of the 20 yards and had to punt.
The punt is downed at the Texas State 7, so they have a chance to make a stop and get great field position. Texas State gets called for false start and their chances get even better. But on the next play they commit an interference penalty to let the Bobcats out of the hole. Texas State makes one first down and punts from its 33.
Montana takes possession at its own 42. On the first play they throw a pass. The receiver is open but slips and falls so the ball continues to a Texas State defender who returns it to the Texas State 42. On the first play the Bobcats hit a 28 yard pass. On the second play Montana tackles Texas State for a loss but gets called for a dead ball personal foul. Texas State gets a 1st down at the 16 and scores on the next play. So the TD was set up by a Montana turnover and helped by a personal foul penalty.
Montana starts its next possession by getting a first down. But on the next play...another holding penalty. 1st and 20 again. On 1st down they get five yards but on second down they fumble and end up with no gain. They end up punting and the punter shanks the ball out of bounds. It only goes 13 yards so Texas State has the ball at the Montana 39.
Texas State finally makes its first big mistake and fumbles the ball away. But Montana's spate of errors isn't over. The Griz move to the Texas State 5 where they have 4th and 1. They go for it and they're going to run the ball to the left (where they had great success during the day). But a pulling offensive lineman knocks the ball out of the quarterback's hands before he can hand it off and the Griz have to fall on it for no gain.
To that point, there is no question that Montana had hurt itself a whole lot more with mistakes. Also, they were largely unforced. The interception wasn't a great play by Texas State. The receiver was open and he slipped down. The fumble on the 4th and 1 play wasn't caused by Texas State. There was no pentration by the defense on the play and no surge to force anybody into the quarterback. It just happened that the pulling offensive lineman hit the ball. And Texas State didn't force Montana to commit a personal foul during the Bobcats' TD drive.
Later in the game, the mistakes evened out some. Texas State ended up with 3 turnovers to Montana's 2. But I think that botched 4th down play was like a turnover because I think they were going to make the first down. Texas State did end up with more penalties (8 to 6) for more yards (86 to 70). But I think that Montana's early mistakes were a factor in Texas State being up 10 - 0 to begin with. I think Montana's offense stopped itself early on more than Texas State stopped it. And I think the final score was pretty indicative of the difference between the teams.
Having said that, the Bobcats did do better than I thought they were going to do.
Green26
November 30th, 2008, 11:13 AM
That's a very good and interesting summary, JSO. Thanks for doing that. Great basic point you made too. i.e. fans tend to focus on our own team's mistakes and calls that go agains them.
Some minor other comments. I believe the fumble on 4th and 1 was a fumble on the exchange for center. UM had 2 of those yesterday, which is rare for them.
The PI call on UM looked like a bad call to me. First, there wasn't much contact. Second, I believe the TS receiver was out of bounds. The play was in front of the TS bench, so I assume the ref had lots of help in making the call.
It would be interesting to see how the UM receiver's feet got tangled with the TS defender, on the interception. Replay didn't pick up the early part of the play.
JohnStOnge
November 30th, 2008, 12:12 PM
Some minor other comments. I believe the fumble on 4th and 1 was a fumble on the exchange for center. UM had 2 of those yesterday, which is rare for them..
Could be. I was watching the little web stream picture and looking at the replay. My recollection is that it looked like the QB was pulling out from the center and a pulling offensive lineman hit him to knock the ball loose. But either way it was an unforced error in a situation such that it was likely that Montana was going to make the yard they needed for the first down given how well they ran the ball yesterday...especially when going to the left. For sure they stopped themselves in that instance rather than making Texas State stop them and that was a huge play. To me it had to be very deflating. At that point, as I was watching the game, I couldn't believe how much Montana was stepping on itself with the offensive holding penalties, the receiver falling down to create the interception, the quarterback doing things like throwing the ball five feet over the receiver's head on a little wide receiver screen that appeared to be well set up, etc. I mean, to me, they really did look like the Keystone Cops through the first quarter and the first part of the second. I'd have been very frustrated if I'd been a Montana fan.
Texas State did some things to itself too...no doubt. Plenty. They fumbled inside the five. They kept a Montana scoring drive alive with a personal foul. But I agree with those who say that the mistakes pretty much evened out. Both teams had their moments. Another thing Montana did was get an interception in Texas State territory then immediately turn it back over with an interception on an attempt to quick strike on the first play when the receiver was double covered.
If you're a Texas State fan you lament the fact that Texas State's threw the interception to set them up. If you're a Montana fan you wonder 1) why they just didn't pound the ball at that point because Texas State couldn't stop them from doing that and 2) why the quarterback tried to force it in when the guy was well covered by two defenders.
Basically I think that, to have a chance to win, Texas State would've had to play a nearly perfect game in terms of avoiding the kinds of mistakes we're talking about and have Montana make mistakes like it did. That didn't happen. Both teams hurt themselves to about the same degree, I think, with those types of mistakes.
JohnStOnge
November 30th, 2008, 12:44 PM
By the way, it's not that I blame people for lamenting their own teams' mistakes. A team can't control what the other team does. If the other team makes a lot of mistakes and the team I'm pulling for doesn't take advantage of that by exploiting them and minimizing it's own errors I'm disappointed. I also don't at all mind having the team I'm pulling for win thanks to the other team making more mistakes.
Like I can remember McNeese beating Western Illinois 14-12 in the 1997 quarterfinals with 0 offensive points and something like 150 total yards. They got a TD on a long interception return and another one on a punt return. They wouldn't have won without Western Illinois throwing that interception that was returned for a TD. But that didn't bother me in the least. I was happy McNeese won. They also benefitted from a key interference call against Montana in the first round and a thing against Delaware in the semis where they went for it on 4th and one, got stopped, but the play didn't count because they were called for moving prior to the snap. With another snap they kicked a field goal that turned out to be key to winning the game.
Nothing but happiness from me.
But the worm turned in the championship game. They dropped a wide open TD pass and also, on a Youngstown State third and goal, they sacked the QB but got his facemask. Then after that YSU fumbled a snap and McNeese recovered but YSU was called for dead ball illegal motion so got to keep the ball then scored on 4th down from the 6.
With the TD YSU took a 1 point lead and it held up for a final score of 10-9. I disliked that as much as I liked the earlier things because, from a McNeese fan's standpoint, you wish your team wouldn't do stuff like drop TD passes in a championship game or get called for face mask when they were about to force a field goal.
It's supposed to be the OTHER team that kind of stuff happens to.
TheRevSWT
November 30th, 2008, 02:04 PM
Thanks for the kudos for Chase. The kid does hit the hole hard and is very tenacious. Check this shot out.
http://filemanager.montanagrizzlies.com/mtgriz3/landing_pages/files/football/2008/Chase_Reynolds3.jpg
No offense, but I HATE that picture.
Got one of him getting "de-cleated" by the bobcats? I think that might make me feel a bit better.
TheRevSWT
November 30th, 2008, 02:10 PM
Basically I think that, to have a chance to win, Texas State would've had to play a nearly perfect game in terms of avoiding the kinds of mistakes we're talking about and have Montana make mistakes like it did. That didn't happen. Both teams hurt themselves to about the same degree, I think, with those types of mistakes.
One thing that I saw about the Bobcats in the game is that they tried to get "cute" with their playcalling. Don't get me wrong, Zwinggi is a heckuva back for us, but he's not our number 1 guy. That's Karrington Bush. And he didn't get the lion's share of the carries.
Had we really rode our RB's to try and control the clock, and kept the Montana offense off the field, I think we might have had more success. Would we have won? Who knows. It's the whole "woulda, shoulda, coulda" game. I have no doubt that Montana fans are saying "if we had done X instead of Y, it would have been a rout before halftime" too.
In the end though, we just didn't get it done. No other excuse besides that we had the chance to go up 17-0 at half, and couldn't get it done, which I think was the turning point in the game, because Montana rattled off how many points after that?
Coming into this game, I thought our RB's were better than Montana's. Now? I dunno. But I woulda REALLY enjoyed watching our RB's battle it out with your RB's. The kid is a hoss, no doubt, and the fact that he's just a sophomore is really a bonus for y'all.
gbhmt
November 30th, 2008, 02:49 PM
Could be. I was watching the little web stream picture and looking at the replay. My recollection is that it looked like the QB was pulling out from the center and a pulling offensive lineman hit him to knock the ball loose. But either way it was an unforced error in a situation such that it was likely that Montana was going to make the yard they needed for the first down given how well they ran the ball yesterday...especially when going to the left. For sure they stopped themselves in that instance rather than making Texas State stop them and that was a huge play. To me it had to be very deflating. At that point, as I was watching the game, I couldn't believe how much Montana was stepping on itself with the offensive holding penalties, the receiver falling down to create the interception, the quarterback doing things like throwing the ball five feet over the receiver's head on a little wide receiver screen that appeared to be well set up, etc. I mean, to me, they really did look like the Keystone Cops through the first quarter and the first part of the second. I'd have been very frustrated if I'd been a Montana fan.
Texas State did some things to itself too...no doubt. Plenty. They fumbled inside the five. They kept a Montana scoring drive alive with a personal foul. But I agree with those who say that the mistakes pretty much evened out. Both teams had their moments. Another thing Montana did was get an interception in Texas State territory then immediately turn it back over with an interception on an attempt to quick strike on the first play when the receiver was double covered.
If you're a Texas State fan you lament the fact that Texas State's threw the interception to set them up. If you're a Montana fan you wonder 1) why they just didn't pound the ball at that point because Texas State couldn't stop them from doing that and 2) why the quarterback tried to force it in when the guy was well covered by two defenders.
Basically I think that, to have a chance to win, Texas State would've had to play a nearly perfect game in terms of avoiding the kinds of mistakes we're talking about and have Montana make mistakes like it did. That didn't happen. Both teams hurt themselves to about the same degree, I think, with those types of mistakes.
Yeah I was right in front of it in the student section, it was a fumbled snap.
slycat
November 30th, 2008, 04:11 PM
One thing that I saw about the Bobcats in the game is that they tried to get "cute" with their playcalling. Don't get me wrong, Zwinggi is a heckuva back for us, but he's not our number 1 guy. That's Karrington Bush. And he didn't get the lion's share of the carries.
Had we really rode our RB's to try and control the clock, and kept the Montana offense off the field, I think we might have had more success. Would we have won? Who knows. It's the whole "woulda, shoulda, coulda" game. I have no doubt that Montana fans are saying "if we had done X instead of Y, it would have been a rout before halftime" too.
In the end though, we just didn't get it done. No other excuse besides that we had the chance to go up 17-0 at half, and couldn't get it done, which I think was the turning point in the game, because Montana rattled off how many points after that?
Coming into this game, I thought our RB's were better than Montana's. Now? I dunno. But I woulda REALLY enjoyed watching our RB's battle it out with your RB's. The kid is a hoss, no doubt, and the fact that he's just a sophomore is really a bonus for y'all.
Thats what I was thinking.
All in all I'm proud of the Bobcats. They went from early struggles at the start of the season to a playoff game where for all but 16 sec of the first half, held the Griz scoreless. I'm excited about next year. Majority of our offense returns and our defense loses a lot but could use retooling anyway.
BobcatTXST04
November 30th, 2008, 04:50 PM
My 2 cents on this:
Now I only know what I heard called over the radio, but it seemed to me that Texas State had the mentality that they could win the game until they got the late turnover before halftime. They didn't seem able to stop the Griz scoring drives both before and after halftime and after those scores it just seemed as though the team was having trouble concentrating and keeping their heads in the game. The back to back personal foul penalties on what would have been punts for the Griz really seemed to be indicative that our players were having problems.
That being said, I think that this game was exciting until the Grizzlies started to pull away from us in the fourth.
I hope we get a "round two" soon!
Ronbo
November 30th, 2008, 05:07 PM
xnodx
No offense, but I HATE that picture.
Got one of him getting "de-cleated" by the bobcats? I think that might make me feel a bit better.
http://filemanager.montanagrizzlies.com/mtgriz3/landing_pages/files/football/2008/Chase_Reynolds3.jpg
Wait a minute this is a great pic. Look how our O-Lineman is pancaking #99.xlolx xlolx
griz8791
November 30th, 2008, 06:46 PM
No offense, but I HATE that picture.
Got one of him getting "de-cleated" by the bobcats? I think that might make me feel a bit better.
This looked like a pretty nice hit:
http://www.pbase.com/griz8791/image/106521673/large.jpg
TheRevSWT
November 30th, 2008, 10:09 PM
xnodx
http://filemanager.montanagrizzlies.com/mtgriz3/landing_pages/files/football/2008/Chase_Reynolds3.jpg
Wait a minute this is a great pic. Look how our O-Lineman is pancaking #99.xlolx xlolx
Now that's just mean!
WyomingGrizFan
November 30th, 2008, 11:38 PM
One thing that I saw about the Bobcats in the game is that they tried to get "cute" with their playcalling. Don't get me wrong, Zwinggi is a heckuva back for us, but he's not our number 1 guy. That's Karrington Bush. And he didn't get the lion's share of the carries.
Had we really rode our RB's to try and control the clock, and kept the Montana offense off the field, I think we might have had more success.
Maybe it's because of his fumble in the second quarter? I don't know why, maybe as a subtle type of coaching punishment for a player that does that to keep him in traction until his next carry since it was primarily Zwinggi/Canady after that. Some coaching staffs do that. Then some give it right back to the player that had the turnover to say..."we still have confidence in you so go out and get it done,"...afterwards sort of deal. It's debateable of course but The Griz had a similar situation against Cal Poly in a First Round Playoff Game back in Missoula in 2005. The Griz had the ball on their own five or thereabouts and we had a RB that fumbled it over to the Mustangs who subsequently scored on their series afterwards. That was the last carry he had for the game and for his entire career even though he had amassed some considerable yardage and had winning TD receptions that determined a couple games for us in preceeding years; against Portland State in particular. A rather sad ending I thought.
Bush shows he has the talent in two of his carries for First Downs in the first half and one where he had sixteen yards (about the 6:10 mark in the 2nd Qtr); that one run showed he was quite dangerous and I'm glad that the TXST Bobcats didn't go back to him much after that, really. A combined three carries for a Net three yards afterwards (Second Half). I think the Griz D was keying on him somewhat and was well aware of his potential. His fumble was just plain unfortunate in that it appeared that he ran up the backside of one of his own OL, though Mettler is credited for a forced fumble. perhaps the precipitation made the ball a little slippery in the first half for both teams.
An interesting stat is that Bush for the season has 1,086 yards on 136 attempts for a 7.8 avg. for 11 TDs while the combination of Zwinggi/Canady/Rivas has 1,100 yards rushing on 210 attempts for 10 TDs. On my own I think I would have gone back to Bush alot more than what happened. George doing a lot of passing; maybe more screen passes to Bush to get him into the open field a lot more, where he could do more damage. Of course, TXST has a lot of weapons in their offensive arsenal so, again, debateable.
gbhmt
November 30th, 2008, 11:42 PM
Maybe it's because of his fumble in the second quarter? I don't know why, maybe as a subtle type of coaching punishment for a player that does that to keep him in traction until his next carry since it was primarily Zwinggi/Canady after that. Some coaching staffs do that. Then some give it right back to the player that had the turnover to say..."we still have confidence in you so go out and get it done,"...afterwards sort of deal. It's debateable of course but The Griz had a similar situation against Cal Poly in a First Round Playoff Game back in Missoula in 2005. The Griz had the ball on their own five or thereabouts and we had a RB that fumbled it over to the Mustangs who subsequently scored on their series afterwards. That was the last carry he had for the game and for his entire career even though he had amassed some considerable yardage and had winning TD receptions that determined a couple games for us in preceeding years; against Portland State in particular. A rather sad ending I thought.
Bush shows he has the talent in two of his carries for First Downs in the first half and one where he had sixteen yards (about the 6:10 mark in the 2nd Qtr); that one run showed he was quite dangerous and I'm glad that the TXST Bobcats didn't go back to him much after that, really. A combined three carries for a Net three yards afterwards (Second Half). I think the Griz D was keying on him somewhat and was well aware of his potential. His fumble was just plain unfortunate in that it appeared that he ran up the backside of one of his own OL, though Mettler is credited for a fored fumble. perhaps the precipitation made the ball a little slippery in the first half for both teams.
An interesting stat is that Bush for the season has 1,086 yards on 136 attempts for a 7.8 avg. for 11 TDs while the combination of Zwinggi/Canady/Rivas has 1,100 yards rushing on 210 attempts for 10 TDs. On my own I think I would have gone back to Bush alot more than what happened. George doing a lot of passing; maybe more screen passes to Bush to get him into the open field a lot more, where he could do more damage. Of course, TXST has a lot of weapons in their offensive arsenal so, again, debateable.
Was that Justin Green?
WyomingGrizFan
November 30th, 2008, 11:52 PM
Nope, J. R. Waller. Double checking the stats it was on the Griz fourteen yd. line instead when the fumble occurred in the 2nd Qtr. Griz ahead 14 - 7 at the time. Cal Poly took two plays to score the tying TD with Noble carrying. After that it was all downhill.
Have to admit there seemed to be a different coaching philosophy between Glenn and Hauck on their ulitzation of Waller. J. R. had excellent open field speed and moves and time after time he demonstrated that with flair pass/screen receptions, carries around end for forty yds a clip (or so I recall from his freshman/sophomore years); once against the MSU Bobcats for instance. When Hauck came on board then Waller was used almost extensively for runs between the tackles. Hell, we had Hilliard for that!!! A very good combination of inside/outside potential running (Hilliard/Waller) overlooked in place of forcing a system instead of exploiting the individual talent of the players involved within an offensive strategy. Of course, Glenn did the same thing back in 2002 against the MSU Bobcats. Sticking with Edwards who went like 1 for 19 in passing (first half) instead of bringing in Brandon Neill, an excellent pocket passer (like in Lulay), considering the climate conditions at the time. Didn't Neill have four TD passes in one game (St. Mary's) once? Oh well. At least it appears our coaching staff is learning as they gather experience along the way, which is good to see.
gbhmt
December 1st, 2008, 12:02 AM
Nope, J. R. Waller. Double checking the stats it was on the Griz fourteen yd. line instead when the fumble occurred in the 2nd Qtr. Griz ahead 14 - 7 at the time. Cal Poly took two plays to score the tying TD with Noble carrying. After that it was all downhill.
Ahhh right Waller.
WyomingGrizFan
December 1st, 2008, 12:14 AM
But, of course, that isn't saying that the 'other' teams aren't watching game film and scouting as well. Knowing that whenever Waller was in the play is around end, Hilliard in it's up the gut type of deal. Always some sort of chess game going on wherein one play can really change the course of a game.
crossfire07
December 1st, 2008, 01:53 PM
3rd straight year of the SLC going one and done in the playoffs.
5 times this decade the SLC had to play Montana in the 1st round in Wa-Griz
1-8 SLC vs. Montana in playoffs this decade
Sucks for the SLC, our playoffs almost always going through Montana.
it sucks but it sure makes the memory sweeter when the state of Montana sent 2 teams in 2 weeks to Louisiana and they both lost.
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