2008 Final Modified GPI

[CSN-info]

The following is the final modified GPI top 50 used by NCAA Selection Committee

Rank-Team-Rating
1. James Madison (1.00)
2. Villanova (2.60)
3. Appalachian St (3.20)
4. Richmond (4.00)
5. Montana (4.80)
6. New Hampshire (6.60)
7. Wofford (6.80)
8. Cal Poly (8.20)
9. Weber St (9.60)
10. William & Mary (10.60)
11. Northern Iowa (11.00)
12. Maine (12.00)
13. Massachusetts (14.20)
14. S Illinois (14.80)
15. Cent Arkansas (15.20)
16T. Harvard (16.00)
16T. Elon (16.00)
18. Furman (20.20)
19. E Washington (22.40)
20. Liberty (22.60)
21T. Colgate (23.40)
21T. S Carolina St (23.40)
23. McNeese St (23.80)
24. Montana St (24.40)
25. Ga Southern (24.80)
26. Northwestern St (29.60)
27. S Dakota St (30.20)
28. Samford (30.40)
29. Jacksonville St (31.40)
30. Texas St (31.60)
31T. Holy Cross (31.80)
31T. Brown (31.80)
31T. E Kentucky (31.80)
34. Delaware (32.60)
35. N Arizona (34.40)
36. Albany (35.60)
37. TN Martin (37.60)
38. Lafayette (38.80)
39. Grambling (39.80)
40. Penn (41.60)
41. Hofstra (41.80)
42. Sacramento St (43.80)
43. N Dakota St (44.00)
44T. Charleston So (46.80)
44T. W Illinois (46.80)
46. Yale (49.00)
47. Tennessee St (49.20)
48. Florida A&M (51.00)
49. SE Louisiana (51.80)
50. Stony Brook (52.20)

The regular GPI will be out at the normal time once all the polls and systems have reported.

[ToTheLeft]

How is that even possible? What a freaking joke.

[93henfan]

How is that even possible? What a freaking joke.

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[RationalGriz]

How is that even possible? What a freaking joke.

Not even sure what you mean.xeyebrowx

[Syntax Error]

Looks like Liberty fans are freaking out! xlmaox

[ToTheLeft]

9. Weber St (9.60)
10. William & Mary (10.60)
11. Northern Iowa (11.00)
12. Maine (12.00)
13. Massachusetts (14.20)
14. S Illinois (14.80)
15. Cent Arkansas (15.20)
16T. Harvard (16.00)
16T. Elon (16.00)
18. Furman (20.20)
19. E Washington (22.40)

Trying to understand how all of that is ahead of us...

[luflame15]

They dont even make any sense.

[ToTheLeft]

Seriously tho, what makes up this "Modified" GPI? Last week's coaches Poll? We're 14th in the Media, and 17th in the Sagarin... how the heck are we 20th in the "modified" GPI?

[ToTheLeft]

I see 3 top 50 wins for LU. One of our losses turns our to be top 50. Yet we still stay down in freaking 20th...

[putter]

Montana beats Montana St by 32 and falls 5 spots? No way was Montana State's overall strength that low to drop the Griz that much...and Villanova finished with Delaware.xsmhx

[mvemjsunpx]

Well, this means Liberty will have to hope for an at-large bid. No extra 9th. auto-bid for the Flames (they needed to be in the top 16).

[Cocky]

Its the GPI it doesn't have to make sense.

[RationalGriz]

9. Weber St (9.60)
10. William & Mary (10.60)
11. Northern Iowa (11.00)
12. Maine (12.00)
13. Massachusetts (14.20)
14. S Illinois (14.80)
15. Cent Arkansas (15.20)
16T. Harvard (16.00)
16T. Elon (16.00)
18. Furman (20.20)
19. E Washington (22.40)

Trying to understand how all of that is ahead of us...


Pretty easy since whom a team plays is a big part of how the gpi is determined. Liberty won ten games, but you must admit that outside of Elon, it was not exactly a difficult schedule

[ToTheLeft]

Well, this means Liberty will have to hope for an at-large bid. No extra 9th. auto-bid for the Flames (they needed to be in the top 16).

That didn't apply to us, anyways. Our conference isn't eligible for that. Have to be an AQ ready conference that just doesn't have one yet... which is the NEC, that's it.

[ToTheLeft]

Pretty easy since whom a team plays is a big part of how the rpi is determined. Liberty won ten games, but you must admit that outside of Elon, it was not exactly a difficult schedule

Except that Lafayette, CSU, SBU, and Elon all show up in the top 50. I swear to God if W and M beating up on horrible CAA teams keeps us out of the playoffs, just because it brings up their "collective SOS", I will be so furious. That would truly be a "woofing".

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So the mod-GPI says:

Rank-Team-Rating
*1. James Madison (1.00)
*3. Appalachian St (3.20)
*9. Weber St (9.60)
*14. S Illinois (14.80)
*21T. Colgate (23.40)
*21T. S Carolina St (23.40)
*30. Texas St (31.60)
*31T. E Kentucky (31.80)

2. Villanova (2.60)
4. Richmond (4.00)
5. Montana (4.80)
6. New Hampshire (6.60)
7. Wofford (6.80)
8. Cal Poly (8.20)
10. William & Mary (10.60)
11. Northern Iowa (11.00)

*AQ

That would be 4 CAA at-larges, 1 BSC, 1 MVFC, 1 SOCON, and Cal Poly

Next in line if they don't go with 4 CAA:
16T. Elon (16.00)
20. Liberty (22.60)
(and the committee says they pay close attention to head-to head)

[TexasTerror]

9. Weber St (9.60)
10. William & Mary (10.60)
11. Northern Iowa (11.00)
12. Maine (12.00)
13. Massachusetts (14.20)
14. S Illinois (14.80)
15. Cent Arkansas (15.20)
16T. Harvard (16.00)
16T. Elon (16.00)
18. Furman (20.20)
19. E Washington (22.40)

Trying to understand how all of that is ahead of us...

UCA had a tougher SOS, did have a 6-1 mark in the SLC and only losses were to an FBS team and Nicholls State. Hard to disagree with their marks, especially when the SLC is the better conference compared to the Big South.

[luflame15]

These GPI indexs dont make sense. Sorry they just dont.

[RationalGriz]

Except that Lafayette, CSU, SBU, and Elon all show up in the top 50. I swear to God if W and M beating up on horrible CAA teams keeps us out of the playoffs, just because it brings up their "collective SOS", I will be so furious. That would truly be a "woofing".

Except that W&M played in a conference that included the 1,2,4,6,12,13,34,and 41 rated teams from the gpi.

[Syntax Error]

Montana beats Montana St by 32 and falls 5 spots? No way was Montana State's overall strength that low to drop the Griz that much...and Villanova finished with Delaware.xsmhxxconfusedx Not sure what you're looking at but this is not the normal GPI, it is the modified one that is listed in the Championship Handbook (see the sticky). Anyway, how can Montana fall five spots when you are #5 here? xconfusedx

[TexasTerror]

SThat would be 4 CAA at-larges, 1 BSC, 1 MVFC, 1 SOCON, and Cal Poly

Next in line if they don't go with 4 CAA:
16T. Elon (16.00)
20. Liberty (22.60)
(and the committee says they pay close attention to head-to head)

Liberty over Elon, no doubt. If those two get a chance in the discussion....

[ToTheLeft]

UCA had a tougher SOS, did have a 6-1 mark in the SLC and only losses were to an FBS team and Nicholls State. Hard to disagree with their marks, especially when the SLC is the better conference compared to the Big South.

UCA I can't argue with at all. I just copy and pasted everything with no edits. However, if they were eligible, they would be the SLC autobid and IN, and TXST would be out, and it wouldn't change a thing. UCA is a solid team, and they deserve to be where they are.

[Syntax Error]

These GPI indexs dont make sense. Sorry they just dont.especially when your team is not where you think they should be, right? xlolx Besides, this is not the normal GPI.

[ToTheLeft]

Except that W&M played in a conference that included the 1,2,4,6,12,13,34,and 41 rated teams from the gpi.

Because every time they play anyone who plays JMU or Richmond or UNH, it's like they get credit for playing those teams again in their SOS.

[Syntax Error]

Because every time they play anyone who plays JMU or Richmond or UNH, it's like they get credit for playing those teams again in their SOS.Just like Liberty did with Elon, and inversly with Presby.

[Go...gate]

Harvard's finish at #16 only shows again that the Ivy Presidents need to give their champion (or one of their co-champions - Brown was in the 30's) an opportunity to participate in the tournament. I hope it happens in my lifetime.

[RationalGriz]

Because every time they play anyone who plays JMU or Richmond or UNH, it's like they get credit for playing those teams again in their SOS.

Then maybe Liberty should do a better job of there OOC scheduling.

[tingly]

Seriously tho, what makes up this "Modified" GPI? Last week's coaches Poll? We're 14th in the Media, and 17th in the Sagarin... how the heck are we 20th in the "modified" GPI?

CSN's GPI uses Massey, Laz Index, Self, Ashburn, Sauceda, Sagarin, Keeper, Sports Network poll, FCS Coaches poll, Any Given Saturday poll.
NCAA's GPI uses Massey, Laz Index, Self, Ashburn, Wolfe.

I'd been including polls in my NCAA GPI's cuz I wasn't paying attention.

[putter]

xconfusedx Not sure what you're looking at but this is not the normal GPI, it is the modified one that is listed in the Championship Handbook (see the sticky). Anyway, how can Montana fall five spots when you are #5 here? xconfusedx

Wasn't Montana #3 in the GPI going into this week? That is where I was coming from

Rank Team Conf W/L Total ARC MAS LAZ SAU SAG SEL KEE ASH AGS SNW FCP
1 James Madison CAA 9-1 1.00 5 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
2 Appalachian St SOCON 9-2 2.00 10 6 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
3 Montana BSC 10-1 4.63 22 2 3 5 6 6 4 4 5 5 5
4 Richmond CAA 8-3 4.88 19 5 4 3 3 4 5 3 7 7 6
5 Villanova CAA 8-2 5.25 23 7 5 6 4 3 3 5 6 6 7
6 Cal Poly GWFC 8-1 5.88 38 4 8 7 12 9 6 8 3 3 3
7 Weber St BSC 9-2 6.50 28 3 6 4 7 5 7 6 8 8 8
8 Wofford SOCON 8-2 8.38 38 9 7 8 5 7 9 7 10 9 10
9 Northern Iowa MVFC 9-2 8.63 57 11 9 12 14 12 8 13 4 4 4
10 New Hampshire CAA 8-2 10.00 47 8 10 9 9 10 12 9 11 11 11

[ToTheLeft]

Then maybe Liberty should do a better job of there OOC scheduling.

Before this season, if you had looked at a schedule with...

Elon
JMU
Youngstown
Coastal
and Western

It would not have been all that laughable.

But JMU backed out (Typical CAA, not letting LU in to the CAA, then not playing us, but looking down on us anyways).

and then NC Central backed out.

And we had to scramble and wound up with a less strong Schedule.

Then Coastal wound up sucking.
Youngstown wound up sucking.
Western didn't improve like they could have.

And we are stuck with a crap schedule.

[Tribe4SF]

Just like Liberty did with Elon, and inversly with Presby.

And as they did with Youngstown, and Western Carolina, and inversely with Lafayette.

[JmuSkinsfan]

Looks like the seeds will be

1) JMU
2) ASU
3) Villanova
4) Montana

If the committee really uses this as much as they say they do...then I'd say W&M easily in over Liberty.

[Tribe4SF]

But JMU backed out (Typical CAA, not letting LU in to the CAA, then not playing us, but looking down on us anyways).


You played W&M for four years.xeyebrowx

[ASU_MBA]

Stop crying liberty. If the gpi does not make sense stop playing a cupcake schedule with 2 community college teams and western carolina.
Please don't blame the gays and teletubies for the gpi problems liberty.

[Dukie95]

You played W&M for four years.xeyebrowx

And will play JMU for four more.

[gbhmt]

Montana beats Montana St by 32 and falls 5 spots? No way was Montana State's overall strength that low to drop the Griz that much...and Villanova finished with Delaware.xsmhx

Getting the share of the conference title cost us in a way, WSU's loss hurt all of our computer ratings.

[ToTheLeft]

Stop crying liberty. If the gpi does not make sense stop playing a cupcake schedule with 2 community college teams and western carolina.
Please don't blame the gays and teletubies for the gpi problems liberty.

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[EKUSteve]

Looks like the seeds will be

1) JMU
2) ASU
3) Villanova
4) Montana

If the committee really uses this as much as they say they do...then I'd say W&M easily in over Liberty.

But they don't. EIU got in last year when there was other teams with a better GPI. So, it will be interesting to see. I think we will know who the 16th team is when they show who JMU is playing.

[blur2005]

Stop crying liberty. If the gpi does not make sense stop playing a cupcake schedule with 2 community college teams and western carolina.
Please don't blame the gays and teletubies for the gpi problems liberty.
I would rep this if it were on the smack board.

I still think there's a good chance Liberty will grab that last spot despite the its position in the modified GPI. The committee isn't wholly governed by this ranking; it's just one of the things they look at. I will say personally that there's little doubt in my mind that W&M is better than Liberty but since they never played each other, there's no absolute proof of this. But W&M played with some very good teams, and beat some. Liberty beat the shooting star that was Elon and managed to lose to Presbyterian. On the surface, I don't think there's much of a question.

[tandemlax]

But they don't. EIU got in last year when there was other teams with a better GPI. So, it will be interesting to see. I think we will know who the 16th team is when they show who JMU is playing.

Unless the 16th team in is Maine or W&M.

[ToTheLeft]

Unless the 16th team in is Maine or W&M.

I think his point is... if someone else is going to JMU, that means Liberty is probably left out... although there is a chance that LU gets sent to App, or goes to Richmond, or gets a home game, or goes to Wofford....

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Wasn't Montana #3 in the GPI going into this week? That is where I was coming fromyeah but they are 5th here so dropping 5 places? (obviously the influence no polls in the mod GPI)

[ViennaSpider]

Looks like the seeds will be

1) JMU
2) ASU
3) Villanova
4) Montana

If the committee really uses this as much as they say they do...then I'd say W&M easily in over Liberty.

Agreed.

[charliej]

I think a Liberty team with a 10-2 record and a GPI in the top 25 is safe. Might be different if you were down at 50 or less.

[ToTheLeft]

I think a Liberty team with a 10-2 record and a GPI in the top 25 is safe. Might be different if you were down at 50 or less.

I hope you're right...

[ChickenMan]

9. Weber St (9.60)
10. William & Mary (10.60)
11. Northern Iowa (11.00)
12. Maine (12.00)
13. Massachusetts (14.20)
14. S Illinois (14.80)
15. Cent Arkansas (15.20)
16T. Harvard (16.00)
16T. Elon (16.00)
18. Furman (20.20)
19. E Washington (22.40)

Trying to understand how all of that is ahead of us...

maybe because none of them lost to Presbyterian... ;)

[Tribe4SF]

I think his point is... if someone else is going to JMU, that means Liberty is probably left out... although there is a chance that LU gets sent to App, or goes to Richmond, or gets a home game, or goes to Wofford....

If Liberty is in (and I think they are), there's only one place they're going.

[Syntax Error]

So the mod-GPI says:

Rank-Team-Rating
*1. James Madison (1.00)
*3. Appalachian St (3.20)
*9. Weber St (9.60)
*14. S Illinois (14.80)
*21T. Colgate (23.40)
*21T. S Carolina St (23.40)
*30. Texas St (31.60)
*31T. E Kentucky (31.80)

2. Villanova (2.60)
4. Richmond (4.00)
5. Montana (4.80)
6. New Hampshire (6.60)
7. Wofford (6.80)
8. Cal Poly (8.20)
10. William & Mary (10.60)
11. Northern Iowa (11.00)

*AQ

That would be 4 CAA at-larges, 1 BSC, 1 MVFC, 1 SOCON, and Cal Poly

Next in line if they don't go with 4 CAA:
16T. Elon (16.00)
20. Liberty (22.60)
(and the committee says they pay close attention to head-to head)Well they went with four CAA at-large:
10. William & Mary (10.60) <------ Not Selected
12. Maine (12.00) <------ Selected