Sagarin ratings 11/16/08

[wkuhillhound]

1) James Madison
2) Appalachian State
3) Richmond
4) Villanova
5) Wofford
6) Montana
7) Weber State
8) William & Mary
9) New Hampshire
10) Maine
11) Elon
12) Cal Poly
13) Massachusetts
14) Northern Iowa
15) Furman
16) Samford
17) Georgia Southern
18) Harvard
19) Southern Illinois
20) Delaware
21) Holy Cross
22) Lafayette
23) Central Arkansas
24) McNeese State
25) Liberty

Top 10 just missed cut:
Montana State, Eastern Washington, Western Illinois, North Dakota State, South Dakota State,
Yale, Albany, Brown, South Carolina State, Colgate

Source:http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm

[Appattk]

1) James Madison
2) Appalachian State
3) Richmond
4) Villanova
5) Wofford
6) Montana
7) Weber State
8) William & Mary
9) New Hampshire
10) Maine
11) Elon
12) Cal Poly
13) Massachusetts
14) Northern Iowa
15) Furman
16) Samford
17) Georgia Southern
18) Harvard
19) Southern Illinois
20) Delaware
21) Holy Cross
22) Lafayette
23) Central Arkansas
24) McNeese State
25) Liberty

Top 10 just missed cut:
Montana State, Eastern Washington, Western Illinois, North Dakota State, South Dakota State,
Yale, Albany, Brown, South Carolina State, Colgate

Source:http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm

All those that are projecting a seed for UNI need to look hard at this list.

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

Haven't we pointed out that Delaware's sagarin rating is high every week? They play in the CAA South. As such, they played 4 of the top 8 teams in this rating ... as well as Maryland.

You may also notice that Towson also plays in the CAA South and is rated 182 ... barely below the teams fighting it out for the OVC title ... and about 10 spots above DAYTON.

[Pantherpower]

All those that are projecting a seed for UNI need to look hard at this list.

All those who think UNI is #14 need to get their head examined. No matter. Seed or not, our defense is unbelievable and is getting better by the week.

The Panthers have outscored their competition 100-6 the past three weeks including back to back shutouts. Sagarin can take his "power ranking" and stick it where the sun don't shine.

[coover]

I believe his "predictor" ratings are more accurate. What does that look like?

[Tribe4SF]

UNI is 11th in the predictor rankings.

[coover]

I believe his "predictor" ratings are more accurate. What does that look like?

I decided to do the research myself. Here is the top 25 FCS under Sagarin's "Predictor" or "Pure Points" ratings (unless I have erred) ...

1. JMU
2. Appy
3. Richmond
4. Montana
5. Villanova
6. Wofford
7. Wm & Mary
8. New Hampshire
9. Cal Poly
10. Weber State
11. Northern Iowa
12. Massachusetts
13. Elon
14. Maine
15. Samford
16. Southern Illinois
17. Harvard
18. Lafayette
19. Liberty
20. Holy Cross
21. North Dakota State
22. Yale
23. Georgia Southern
24. South Dakota State
25. Furman

[AppAlum2003]

I decided to do the research myself. Here is the top 25 FCS under Sagarin's "Predictor" or "Pure Points" ratings (unless I have erred) ...

1. JMU
2. Appy
3. Richmond
4. Montana
5. Villanova
6. Wofford
7. Wm & Mary
8. New Hampshire
9. Cal Poly
10. Weber State
11. Northern Iowa
12. Massachusetts
13. Elon
14. Maine
15. Samford
16. Southern Illinois
17. Harvard
18. Lafayette
19. Liberty
20. Holy Cross
21. North Dakota State
22. Yale
23. Georgia Southern
24. South Dakota State
25. Furman

How would you like it if I ended Cal Poly's name in a "y" everytime, huh? xmadx

[uofmman1122]

How would you like it if I ended Cal Poly's name in a "y" everytime, huh? xmadxCal Poly just doesn't have that flow off the tongue like Appy does.

xlolxxlolx

[malibudude]

Wow. Win by 23 and drop 4 spots in Sagarin. San Diego State's season is just killing CP's rating.

[Chi Panther]

All those that are projecting a seed for UNI need to look hard at this list.

Just like UNH is 4 spots better than UMASS....xsmhx

I'm not sure what is wrong for UNI in the computer models this year....but UNI is NOT the 8th best team in the CAA.....xrotatehx xlolx

Please explain that?

[malibudude]

Cal Poly just doesn't have that flow off the tongue like Appy does.

xlolxxlolx


Unless we go for the PolYY

second Y being silent

[BigApp]

Wow. Win by 23 and drop 4 spots in Sagarin. San Diego State's season is just killing CP's rating.

no, I'd say its a result of playing a slew awful teams rated at (or near) the bottom of his index.


178 Southern Utah
218 Idaho State
225 NC Central

xcoffeex

[Hansel]

bad year for the 'puters in general IMHO :)

[Poly Pigskin]

no, I'd say its a result of playing a slew awful teams rated at (or near) the bottom of his index.


178 Southern Utah
218 Idaho State
225 NC Central

xcoffeex

Montana played 2 of the 3, they're doing just fine.

[joecooll6]

All those that are projecting a seed for UNI need to look hard at this list.

The fact that Delaware is #20 on this list takes a little away from its credibility IMO. The list is more based on what conference you play in than how good you really are on your own.

[GrizFanIRAQ]

Montana played 2 of the 3, they're doing just fine.

UM also beat EW that also played Texas Tech. When texas tech beat Texas, UM jumped way up in the sagarin ranks. Oh yeah the Griz also have a win over Cal Poly, who you of course know beat SD state

[ValleyChamp]

All those that are projecting a seed for UNI need to look hard at this list.

And you need to look hard at all the other polls that have UNI in the top 4. What makes this one right?

[ValleyChamp]

How would you like it if I ended Cal Poly's name in a "y" everytime, huh? xmadx

If you're appy and you know it clap your hands...xwhistlex

[TCisMYhero]

How would you like it if I ended Cal Poly's name in a "y" everytime, huh? xmadx

And that was the thesis for my PhD. @ Appy St.

[gbhmt]

Montana played 2 of the 3, they're doing just fine.

Yeah the win over #3 helps with that issue.xthumbsupx

[Skjellyfetti]

I decided to do the research myself. Here is the top 25 FCS under Sagarin's "Predictor" or "Pure Points" ratings (unless I have erred) ...

1. JMU
2. App
3. Richmond
4. Montana
5. Villanova
6. Wofford
7. Wm & Mary
8. New Hampshire
9. Polly
10. Weber State
11. Northern Iowa
12. Massachusetts
13. Elon
14. Maine
15. Samford
16. Southern Illinois
17. Harvard
18. Lafayette
19. Liberty
20. Holy Cross
21. North Dakota State
22. Yale
23. Georgia Southern
24. South Dakota State
25. Furman

fixed.

[gbhmt]

fixed.

YES

[skinny_uncle]

The problem with Sagarin is that it is a computer model based on the whole season. Teams who actually improve during the season end up underrated because of their early games.

[Poly Pigskin]

Yeah the win over #3 helps with that issue.xthumbsupx

Except we're not #3, but yeah.

[gbhmt]

Except we're not #3, but yeah.

In the polls I mean.

[Poly Pigskin]

In the polls I mean.

Right, but Sags doesn't care about polls.

[MaxASU'81]

And that was the thesis for my PhD. @ Appy St.

App ain't scared of you guys...call us whatever....just call us when the big trophy is presented! Like in '05!xpeacex

[MaxASU'81]

Cal Poly just doesn't have that flow off the tongue like Appy does.

xlolxxlolx

Seems like you guys have insider info....PIC....xlolx xlolx xlolx

[MaxASU'81]

Montana played 2 of the 3, they're doing just fine.

Montana does not play anyone outside their conf. year after year and because there has to be left coast representation....they get a pass!xrolleyesx xrolleyesx

[FCS Go!]

Montana does not play anyone outside their conf. year after year and because there has to be left coast representation....they get a pass!xrolleyesx xrolleyesx

Same ole, same old. xrolleyesx

[DSUrocks07]

fixed.

xlolx xlolx xlolx

xoutofrepx

[Poly Pigskin]

Montana does not play anyone outside their conf. year after year and because there has to be left coast representation....they get a pass!xrolleyesx xrolleyesx

In other years that may have been a decent argument. This year, they actually won the Great West title (tiebreaker over Poly) xlolx . And did you really just call Montana "left coast"? Have you looked at a map recently? xeyebrowx

[UAalum72]

Sagarin Conference ratings

1 COLONIAL (AA)= 62.15 61.70 ( 12) 12
2 SOUTHERN (AA)= 59.26 58.66 ( 14) 9
3 BIG SKY (AA)= 53.67 53.58 ( 15) 9
4 GREAT WEST (AA)= 50.31 50.93 ( 16) 5
5 MISSOURI VALLEY (AA)= 50.31 49.13 ( 18) 9
6 SOUTHLAND (AA)= 49.47 49.86 ( 17) 8
7 IVY LEAGUE (AA)= 49.09 48.73 ( 19) 8
8 PATRIOT LEAGUE (AA)= 48.82 48.06 ( 20) 7
9 BIG SOUTH (AA)= 46.51 46.92 ( 21) 7
10 OHIO VALLEY (AA)= 42.99 43.14 ( 22) 9
11 NORTHEAST (AA)= 38.71 38.31 ( 23) 8
12 MID-EASTERN (AA)= 38.07 37.86 ( 24) 10
13 PIONEER (AA)= 35.00 34.43 ( 25) 9
14 SOUTHWESTERN (AA)= 30.43 31.25 ( 26) 10
15 I-AA INDEPENDENTS (AA)= 29.81 29.49 ( 27) 5

Note: NEC rated ahead of MEAC

[WileECoyote06]

Do they really think James Madison can beat Clemson and Wake Forest?

And why is Duke, a full twenty spots behind JMU when they beat them pretty convincingly.

Normally, I'm pro-Sagarin ratings, but something appears very wrong with this years edition.

[VT Wildcat Fan53]

1) James Madison
2) Appalachian State
3) Richmond
4) Villanova
5) Wofford
6) Montana
7) Weber State
8) William & Mary
9) New Hampshire
10) Maine
11) Elon
12) Cal Poly
13) Massachusetts
14) Northern Iowa
15) Furman
16) Samford
17) Georgia Southern
18) Harvard
19) Southern Illinois
20) Delaware
21) Holy Cross
22) Lafayette
23) Central Arkansas
24) McNeese State
25) Liberty

Top 10 just missed cut:
Montana State, Eastern Washington, Western Illinois, North Dakota State, South Dakota State,
Yale, Albany, Brown, South Carolina State, Colgate

Source:http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm

CAA has 3 of Top 4, 6 of Top 10, 7 of Top 13 in the nation. The league is in better shape than ever to get 5 Bids to the NCAA tournament! Wow, except for the omnipresent and great App State, the league has quite an impressive lock on greatness this year, .... xsmiley_wix

[Syntax Error]

CAA has 3 of Top 4, 6 of Top 10, 7 of Top 13 in the nation. The league is in better shape than ever to get 5 Bids to the NCAA tournament! Wow, except for the omnipresent and great App State, the league has quite an impressive lock on greatness this year, .... xsmiley_wixYou folks put too much into the FBS-slanted Sagarin rankings. Sags doesn't even rank all the teams FCS plays.

[Chi Panther]

CAA has 3 of Top 4, 6 of Top 10, 7 of Top 13 in the nation. The league is in better shape than ever to get 5 Bids to the NCAA tournament! Wow, except for the omnipresent and great App State, the league has quite an impressive lock on greatness this year, .... xsmiley_wix

See my post above. I don't understand it, but I just don't see UNI as the 8th best CAA team.

UNH clowned UMASS, but is only 4 spots better. The math can't be this hard.....

[Silenoz]

double post

[Silenoz]

Montana does not play anyone outside their conf. year after year and because there has to be left coast representation....they get a pass!xrolleyesx xrolleyesx


Same ole, same old. xrolleyesx

Some people fail to realize that 2007 does not equal "year after year". xlolx

[Grizzaholic]

Montana does not play anyone outside their conf. year after year and because there has to be left coast representation....they get a pass!xrolleyesx xrolleyesx

xcoffeex Time for some new material.

[APPride]

If you're appy and you know it clap your hands...xwhistlex

2 funny...xrotatehx