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Caldwell County APP
November 14th, 2008, 12:30 PM
I was just bored at work and thought I would have some fun. I am by no means a proponent of the bowl system. But what if we had it in FCS instead of the playoffs. Here is how it might look. The conferences that do not take part in the post season were not in bowl consideration. I was going to use the minimum six wins to be bowl eligible, but there were not enough 6 win teams. So I dropped it to five, and still didnt have enough teams, so now you must only win four games to be bowl eligible, some of the teams are 3 win teams, but they are anticipated to become FCS bowl eligible. While doing this, I have come to the conclusion that there are way too many bowls................... Tell me what you think guys. Do not take this too seriously, this is merely for fun. What do you think of the matchups?

Eagle Bank Bowl- Stony Brook vs South Dakota

New Mexico Bowl- Bucknell vs Presbyterian

St. Petersburg Bowl- Citadel vs Stephen F Austin

Las Vegas Bowl- N. Dakota vs Delaware

New Orleans Bowl- Sacramento St vs S. Utah

Pionsettia Bowl- Gardner Webb vs E. Washington

Hawaii Bowl- E. Illinois vs Morehead St

Motor City- Murray St vs Robert Morris

Mieneke Car Care Bowl- Drake vs Sam Houston St

Champs Sports- Charleston Southern vs Bryant

Emerald Bowl- Butler vs Georgia Southern

International Bowl- Hampton vs Central Conn St

GMAC- Jacksonville St vs UC Davis

Independence- Northwestern St vs San Diego

Papa Johns- Florida A&M vs Jacksonville

Alamo- Scared Heart vs Eastern Kentucky

Humanitarian- Morgan St vs Monmouth

Texas- Dayton vs Samford

Armed Forces- ND State vs N. Arizona

Sun- Bethune Cookman vs Montana State

Music City- Lafayette vs Texas St

Insight- W. Illinois vs Holy Cross

Liberty- UMASS vs SD State

Gator- Maine vs Albany

Holiday- Colgate vs UT- Martin

Outback- Mcneese St vs Liberty

Chick Fil A- New Hampshire vs Furman

Capitol One- So. Illinois vs William & Mary

Cotton- Richmond vs Elon

Orange- Tenn State(OVC Winner) vs Villanova(at large)

Sugar- SC State(MEAC winner) vs Montana(at large)

Rose- Northern Iowa(MVC winner) vs Wofford( at large)

Fiesta- Weber St( Big Sky winner) vs Cal Poly( Great West Winner)

FCS National Championship- JMU ( FCS No. 1) vs ASU(FCS No. 2)



Thoughts?

smcwildcat
November 14th, 2008, 12:37 PM
this is awesome

bluehenbillk
November 14th, 2008, 12:49 PM
Delaware won't be bowl-eligible.

Biff
November 14th, 2008, 12:51 PM
The Citadel wouldn't be bowl eligible.

Khan4Cats
November 14th, 2008, 12:54 PM
So, who are the 6 BcS conferences with the auto-bids to the big money.

BTW, I'd love to play in the Rose Bowl, but shouldn't the MVFC champ be matched up with the Big Sky champ in that?

Caldwell County APP
November 14th, 2008, 12:55 PM
If you read all of it, I had to drop the number of wins down to 4 because there was not enough 5 and 6 win teams.

nmatsen
November 14th, 2008, 12:55 PM
That system sucks, we can't even play for the National Title, I demand a play-off NOW!

Caldwell County APP
November 14th, 2008, 12:57 PM
So, who are the 6 BcS conferences with the auto-bids to the big money.

BTW, I'd love to play in the Rose Bowl, but shouldn't the MVFC champ be matched up with the Big Sky champ in that?

Well I was going to match up the MVC and the CAA, but the CAA champs are going to the national championship game. There was not alot of thought put into this, just something kind of fun I did.

Caldwell County APP
November 14th, 2008, 12:58 PM
That system sucks, we can't even play for the National Title, I demand a play-off NOW!

Ask and you shall recieve my freind............

andy7171
November 14th, 2008, 12:59 PM
I'd travel to the Capital One Bowl.

wkuhillhound
November 14th, 2008, 01:01 PM
I give it a 10 for originality. Rep points coming. :D xthumbsupx

LacesOut
November 14th, 2008, 01:03 PM
If you read all of it, I had to drop the number of wins down to 4 because there was not enough 5 and 6 win teams.

Goodness! And what does that say about college football this year! A sad sad year for some teams, and quite a few very bad football teams.

813Jag
November 14th, 2008, 01:05 PM
wow! even in a hypothetical world the SWAC still doesn't make the postseason. xlolx

I think one of those bowls would love us (Southern), you know bowls love schools that travel.

wkuhillhound
November 14th, 2008, 01:06 PM
Lots of intriguing and interesting matchups.

jmufan999
November 14th, 2008, 01:07 PM
very creative thread! obviously, i'd love a JMU-ASU championship game.

Pitz
November 14th, 2008, 01:08 PM
Motor City- Murray St vs Robert Morris

Detroit can't handle this intensity!! BUCKLE UP.

wkuhillhound
November 14th, 2008, 01:08 PM
wow! even in a hypothetical world the SWAC still doesn't make the postseason. xlolx

I think one of those bowls would love us (Southern), you know bowls love schools that travel.

At least it was original.

Caldwell County APP
November 14th, 2008, 01:08 PM
wow! even in a hypothetical world the SWAC still doesn't make the postseason. xlolx

I think one of those bowls would love us (Southern), you know bowls love schools that travel.

I wish I would have added the SWAC teams, that would have taken some of the crappy teams out of bowl games.

joecooll6
November 14th, 2008, 01:10 PM
I was just bored at work and thought I would have some fun. I am by no means a proponent of the bowl system. But what if we had it in FCS instead of the playoffs. Here is how it might look. The conferences that do not take part in the post season were not in bowl consideration. I was going to use the minimum six wins to be bowl eligible, but there were not enough 6 win teams. So I dropped it to five, and still didnt have enough teams, so now you must only win four games to be bowl eligible, some of the teams are 3 win teams, but they are anticipated to become FCS bowl eligible. While doing this, I have come to the conclusion that there are way too many bowls................... Tell me what you think guys. Do not take this too seriously, this is merely for fun. What do you think of the matchups?

Eagle Bank Bowl- Stony Brook vs South Dakota

New Mexico Bowl- Bucknell vs Presbyterian

St. Petersburg Bowl- Citadel vs Stephen F Austin

Las Vegas Bowl- N. Dakota vs Delaware

New Orleans Bowl- Sacramento St vs S. Utah

Pionsettia Bowl- Gardner Webb vs E. Washington

Hawaii Bowl- E. Illinois vs Morehead St

Motor City- Murray St vs Robert Morris

Mieneke Car Care Bowl- Drake vs Sam Houston St

Champs Sports- Charleston Southern vs Bryant

Emerald Bowl- Butler vs Georgia Southern

International Bowl- Hampton vs Central Conn St

GMAC- Jacksonville St vs UC Davis

Independence- Northwestern St vs San Diego

Papa Johns- Florida A&M vs Jacksonville

Alamo- Scared Heart vs Eastern Kentucky

Humanitarian- Morgan St vs Monmouth

Texas- Dayton vs Samford

Armed Forces- ND State vs N. Arizona

Sun- Bethune Cookman vs Montana State

Music City- Lafayette vs Texas St

Insight- W. Illinois vs Holy Cross

Liberty- UMASS vs SD State

Gator- Maine vs Albany

Holiday- Colgate vs UT- Martin

Outback- Mcneese St vs Liberty

Chick Fil A- New Hampshire vs Furman

Capitol One- So. Illinois vs William & Mary

Cotton- Richmond vs Elon

Orange- Tenn State(OVC Winner) vs Villanova(at large)

Sugar- SC State(MEAC winner) vs Montana(at large)

Rose- Northern Iowa(MVC winner) vs Wofford( at large)

Fiesta- Weber St( Big Sky winner) vs Cal Poly( Great West Winner)

FCS National Championship- JMU ( FCS No. 1) vs ASU(FCS No. 2)



Thoughts?

I did something like this last year. Its a fun thing to do when youre bored. Its interesting to see. I love the idea of seeing my Panthers play in the Rose Bowl.

joecooll6
November 14th, 2008, 01:11 PM
That system sucks, we can't even play for the National Title, I demand a play-off NOW!

Very funny!

Caldwell County APP
November 14th, 2008, 01:12 PM
I did something like this last year. Its a fun thing to do when youre bored. Its interesting to see. I love the idea of seeing my Panthers play in the Rose Bowl.

That would probably be a very good football game, if Wofford and Northern Iowa matched up. I would tune in. Can you imagine Keith Jackson calling the game???

813Jag
November 14th, 2008, 01:12 PM
At least it was original.


I wish I would have added the SWAC teams, that would have taken some of the crappy teams out of bowl games.
Trust me, by no means am I complaining. It's a fun read. xpeacex

joecooll6
November 14th, 2008, 01:12 PM
Too bad we didnt have a bowl system last year.... A UNI/Montana 2007 national championship game looks pretty good right now.

UNIFanSince1983
November 14th, 2008, 01:16 PM
I originally posted this in a different thread, but I computed a BCS Top 25 for FCS as of Wednesday. I used the same formula the BCS uses I just the FCS polls instead of the FBS polls. So this is how it worked out. It should help out with the at-large BCS bowls.

1. James Madison 0.996
2. Appalachian St. 0.954
3. Montana 0.839
4. Cal Poly 0.830
5. Villanova 0.825
6. Richmond 0.790
7. Northern Iowa 0.756
8. Weber St. 0.752
9. Wofford 0.649
10. Elon 0.600
11. William & Mary 0.572
12. Southern Illinois 0.558
13. New Hampshire 0.530
14. Furman 0.457
15. Central Arkansas 0.385
16. Maine 0.332
17. S Carolina St. 0.315
18. Umass 0.315
19. McNeese St. 0.291
20. Harvard 0.237
21. Tenn St. 0.187
22. Tenn Martin 0.182
23. Colgate 0.141
24. Liberty 0.101
25. Samford 0.101

Go...gate
November 14th, 2008, 01:18 PM
I love the idea of the Holiday Bowl in San Diego, but it may be too warm for Colgate - an outdoor bowl game in Anchorage, Alaska might be more suitable. Governor Sarah Palin can wear a bathing suit and handle the coin toss. :)

Love the thread!!

Caldwell County APP
November 14th, 2008, 01:18 PM
I originally posted this in a different thread, but I computed a BCS Top 25 for FCS as of Wednesday. I used the same formula the BCS uses I just the FCS polls instead of the FBS polls. So this is how it worked out. It should help out with the at-large BCS bowls.

1. James Madison 0.996
2. Appalachian St. 0.954
3. Montana 0.839
4. Cal Poly 0.830
5. Villanova 0.825
6. Richmond 0.790
7. Northern Iowa 0.756
8. Weber St. 0.752
9. Wofford 0.649
10. Elon 0.600
11. William & Mary 0.572
12. Southern Illinois 0.558
13. New Hampshire 0.530
14. Furman 0.457
15. Central Arkansas 0.385
16. Maine 0.332
17. S Carolina St. 0.315
18. Umass 0.315
19. McNeese St. 0.291
20. Harvard 0.237
21. Tenn St. 0.187
22. Tenn Martin 0.182
23. Colgate 0.141
24. Liberty 0.101
25. Samford 0.101

I guess Richmond was really the only one I missed on using those standings.

PhoenixSupreme
November 14th, 2008, 01:35 PM
I liked your FCS Bowl stuff. I don't think theoretically they would let Elon and Richmond go at it a second time this season. That kind of stuff is usually avoided. Maybe Elon and W&M instead.

Go...gate
November 14th, 2008, 02:02 PM
No Pioneer? Where are you, DetroitFlyer?

Cranium716
November 14th, 2008, 02:11 PM
No Pioneer? Where are you, DetroitFlyer?

Unfortunately, Pioneer is represented:

Independence- Northwestern St vs San Diego

Texas- Dayton vs Samford

This is an awesome post though! Just shows you how worthless the BCS system is, especially in the bottom half of the bowls. xthumbsupx

ValleyChamp
November 14th, 2008, 02:13 PM
This is pretty cool. Rose Bowl baby!

FargoBison
November 14th, 2008, 02:16 PM
I was actually working on a post like this as well, but I did things a little bit differently, so here it is...

CAA=Big 12
SoCon=SEC
MVC=Big 10
Big Sky=Pac 10
SLC=ACC
MEAC=Big East
NEC= MAC
OVC=MWC
SWAC=Sun Belt
Big South=CUSA
PL=WAC
IVY=FBS Independents minus every team but Norte Dame
Pioneer=FBS Independents minus Norte Dame

BCS Title Game
JMU vs App State

Rose
UNI vs Weber State

Fiesta
Villanova vs Montana

Sugar
Elon vs Cal Poly

Orange
SCSU vs Centeral Arkansas

GMAC
CCU vs Sacred Heart

International
Hampton vs Monmouth

Liberty
Liberty vs Brown

Cotton
William & Mary vs Georgia Southern

Gator
McNeese St vs Harvard

Capital One
SIU vs Wofford

Outback
SDSU vs Furman

Chick-Fil-A
Texas St vs Samford

Insight bowl
Penn vs UMass

Music City
SHSU vs Jackson State

Sun
Maine vs Montana State

Armed Forces
EKU vs Charleston Southern

Texas
PVAMU vs UND

Holiday
Richmond vs NAU

Humanitarian
SUU vs Colgate

Alamo
NDSU vs UNH

Papa Johns
Morgan State vs Butler

Independence
Jacksonville vs Bryant

Emerald
South Dakota vs Sac State

Champs
Northwestern State vs WIU

Meineke
CCSU vs Beathune Cookman

Motor City
Dayton vs Albany

Hawaii
San Diego vs Lafayette

Poinestta
UT Martin vs Cornell

New Orleans
Gardner-Webb vs Grambling State

Las Vegas
Tennessee State vs EWU

St. Petersburg
FAMU vs Southern

New Mexico
Holy Cross vs Jacksonville State

Congressional
UCD vs Yale

wkuhillhound
November 14th, 2008, 02:32 PM
I was actually working on a post like this as well, but I did things a little bit differently, so here it is...

CAA=Big 12
SoCon=SEC
MVC=Big 10
Big Sky=Pac 10
SLC=ACC
MEAC=Big East
NEC= MAC
OVC=MWC
SWAC=Sun Belt
Big South=CUSA
PL=WAC
IVY=FBS Independents minus every team but Norte Dame
Pioneer=FBS Independents minus Norte Dame

BCS Title Game
JMU vs App State

Rose
UNI vs Weber State

Fiesta
Villanova vs Montana

Sugar
Elon vs Cal Poly

Orange
SCSU vs Centeral Arkansas

GMAC
CCU vs Sacred Heart

International
Hampton vs Monmouth

Liberty
Liberty vs Brown

Cotton
William & Mary vs Georgia Southern

Gator
McNeese St vs Harvard

Capital One
SIU vs Wofford

Outback
SDSU vs Furman

Chick-Fil-A
Texas St vs Samford

Insight bowl
Penn vs UMass

Music City
SHSU vs Jackson State

Sun
Maine vs Montana State

Armed Forces
EKU vs Charleston Southern

Texas
PVAMU vs UND

Holiday
Richmond vs NAU

Humanitarian
SUU vs Colgate

Alamo
NDSU vs UNH

Papa Johns
Morgan State vs Butler

Independence
Jacksonville vs Bryant

Emerald
South Dakota vs Sac State

Champs
Northwestern State vs WIU

Meineke
CCSU vs Beathune Cookman

Motor City
Dayton vs Albany

Hawaii
San Diego vs Lafayette

Poinestta
UT Martin vs Cornell

New Orleans
Gardner-Webb vs Grambling State

Las Vegas
Tennessee State vs EWU

St. Petersburg
FAMU vs Southern

New Mexico
Holy Cross vs Jacksonville State

Congressional
UCD vs Yale

How did you determine the FCS conference to FBS conference was it based on region or other criteria. Really didn't understand the OVC = MWC? It was kind of confusing.

FargoBison
November 14th, 2008, 02:36 PM
How did you determine the FCS conference to FBS conference was it based on region or other criteria. Really didn't understand the OVC = MWC? It was kind of confusing.

Pretty much opinion, mixed with a little history, and current strength. Really, not all FCS and FBS conferences are going to fit perfectly and its impossible to do regionally because of the lack of western teams.

As for OVC and MWC they are kind of similar, they are both kind of on the same tier as wanting to be among the power elite but they just haven't done enough to earn that respect.

wkuhillhound
November 14th, 2008, 02:54 PM
Pretty much opinion, mixed with a little history, and current strength. Really, not all FCS and FBS conferences are going to fit perfectly and its impossible to do regionally because of the lack of western teams.

As for OVC and MWC they are kind of similar, they are both kind of on the same tier as wanting to be among the power elite but they just haven't done enough to earn that respect.

Makes sense.

Silenoz
November 14th, 2008, 02:59 PM
Sugar- SC State(MEAC winner) vs Montana(at large)


If only..

I Bleed Purple
November 14th, 2008, 03:51 PM
Yeah, I think the Big Sky fits more with the Pac-10 than the Big-12. Rose Bowl or bust.

appfan2008
November 14th, 2008, 03:59 PM
I love the system... we dont have to play three games leading up to the title!... we are just automatically there!!! :)xlolxxrolleyesx

Caldwell County APP
November 14th, 2008, 05:08 PM
Sugar- SC State(MEAC winner) vs Montana(at large)


If only..

You guys just happened to pull that lay-up in these matchups. They get an autobid, so I threw them in there.