Official 2008 Harvard-Penn Thread

[Ivytalk]

Will Harvard's offensive machine be able to dent Penn's stingy defense?

Will the Crimson shake off the Franklin Field jinx that has resulted in 12 Quaker victories in Harvard's last 13 trips to that old barn (2004 being the sole exception)?

Will Penn's stupid toast-throwing fans have to eat crow when Harvard triumphs and the Zamboni breaks down?

It's supposed to rain on Saturday. What's the "over" on the attendance?

GO HARVARD!!! STUFF THE QUACKERS!xthumbsupx

[bulldog10jw]

I hate those dirty, cheating, no good, let in anybody with ability no matter how dumb, lowlife, ironically named Quakers.

And their coach, too.

[Ivytalk]

I hate those dirty, cheating, no good, let in anybody with ability no matter how dumb, lowlife, ironically named Quakers.

And their coach, too.

xlolx xlolx xbowx xbowx xbowx

Definitely "second tier Ivy"....xcoolx :p

They comb the coal fields every year to get the best Neanderthals money can buy!

[bulldog10jw]

Yale-Penn 1984.

Yale is down 20-14 and getting hosed by the homer refs they manage to find at Franklin Field (I think they kidnap the real officials). Penn ball, 3rd down, passing situation. Yale has a very good D-Lineman named John Zaneski. He rushes the passer, forces an incomplete pass, and barely touches the girl playing QB for Penn. Whistle, roughing the passer. Zaneski picks up the flag, which had landed at his feet, and throws it at the Ref. Boom, another 15 yards. The only time I have ever seen a ref walk off 30 yards. Penn scores the TD and wins 27-14, but it's still one of the funniest things I ever saw. xnodx

Didn't mean to hijack your thread, IT.

[Ivytalk]

Yale-Penn 1984.

Yale is down 20-14 and getting hosed by the homer refs they manage to find at Franlin Field (I think they kidnap the real officials). Penn ball, 3rd down, passing situation. Yale has a very good D-Lineman named John Zaneski. He rushes the passer, forces an incomplete pass, and barely touches the girl playing QB for Penn. Whistle, roughing the passer. Zaneski picks up the flag, which had landed at his feet, and throws it at the Ref. Boom, another 15 yards. The only time I have ever seen a ref walk off 30 yards. Penn scores the TD and wins 27-14, but it's still one of the funniest things I ever saw. xnodx

Didn't mean to hijack your thread, IT.

Glad you chimed in!

Of course, that's an echo of the phantom "roughing the kicker" penalty at the '82 Harvard-Penn game where the girl Penn kicker missed "his" first kick, took a dive, and was rewarded with a flag and 15 extra yards to make a chip shot. That was the start of the 11 straight losses at Franklin Field. Damn, and we came back from a 20-0 hole in the third quarter to take a 21-20 lead.xmadx xsmhx

[Harvard Worship]

I'm worried about that new QB Penn has dug up from somewhere. Garton. Heard he looked good vs. Princeton last week in his first start, won Ivy offensive player of the week.

I hope we get this one... I think the deflating loss at Penn two years ago (that put us out of the Ivy title tie w/ Yale & Princeton) really killed the fire w/ the team and contributed (along with Yale's understandable intensity) to that embarrassing pasting by Yale at the Stadium. Losing this week could have a similar deflating effect.

[Hoyadestroya85]

This Penn team can play, simple as that.. one of the few teams this season to run for 100 yards on Villanova's defense

[Ivytalk]

As I'm now in my 50s and have less tolerance for lousy weather conditions, and as tomorrow's weather conditions at Franklin Field are supposed to be lousy, I've decided to exercise the CN8 option for this game! However, if the storm changes course, I'll head up I95.xpeacex :o :p

[bulldog10jw]

As I'm now in my 50s and have less tolerance for lousy weather conditions, and as tomorrow's weather conditions at Franklin Field are supposed to be lousy, I've decided to exercise the CN8 option for this game! However, if the storm changes course, I'll head up I95.xpeacex :o :p

You did better than me. I lost my tolerance for lousy weather in my late 30's. ;)

And not just for football games. xnodx

[Ivytalk]

You did better than me. I lost my tolerance for lousy weather in my late 30's. ;)

And not just for football games. xnodx

bulldog, that '81 version of The Game in New Haven was the worst sports event of my life. Ever!xsmhx

Although you probably enjoyed the result!;)

[bulldog10jw]

Getting back to the subject of the thread, I like Harvard by 10. (unforunately, right now I like xconfusedx them by 10 next week, also).

Harvard's offense is as good as Brown's and they put up 34. Let's say Penn plays better "D" than they did against Brown. Harvard still scores 24.

Penn's offense is anemic and the Harvard "D" should mostly dominate them. We'll give them 2 TD's, one late to make it close.

Harvard 24-14.

[Ivytalk]

Getting back to the subject of the thread, I like Harvard by 10. (unforunately, right now I like xconfusedx them by 10 next week, also).

Harvard's offense is as good as Brown's and they put up 34. Let's say Penn plays better "D" than they did against Brown. Harvard still scores 24.

Penn's offense is anemic and the Harvard "D" should mostly dominate them. We'll give them 2 TD's, one late to make it close.

Harvard 24-14.

Gosh, bulldog, I hope you're right. So the stars can re-align in their courses, and H-Y will have a bearing on the Ivy title as it almost always does. I picked Penn to win this on the strength of "the curse," but I'd be as happy as a quahog clam if The Game had a bearing on first place instead of second!xpeacex xthumbsupx

[bulldog10jw]

Gosh, bulldog, I hope you're right. So the stars can re-align in their courses, and H-Y will have a bearing on the Ivy title as it almost always does. I picked Penn to win this on the strength of "the curse," but I'd be as happy as a quahog clam if The Game had a bearing on first palce instead of second!xpeacex xthumbsupx

Now, if we can just get those Dartmouth "Indians" to scalp Brown, it will really be a fun last weekend. That is if Yale holds up their end.

[Go...gate]

Glad you chimed in!

Of course, that's an echo of the phantom "roughing the kicker" penalty at the '82 Harvard-Penn game where the girl Penn kicker missed "his" first kick, took a dive, and was rewarded with a flag and 15 extra yards to make a chip shot. That was the start of the 11 straight losses at Franklin Field. Damn, and we came back from a 20-0 hole in the third quarter to take a 21-20 lead.xmadx xsmhx

Ah, yes, David Shulman. Merrill Reese was doing the Penn games on radio that Fall while the NFL was on strike. It was a different world and Penn finally broke through after many years of futility.

[Ivytalk]

Now, if we can just get those Dartmouth "Indians" to scalp Brown, it will really be a fun last weekend. That is if Yale holds up their end.

Or those Columbia Lions out-carnivore the Bruins next week!;) xlolx

[Ivytalk]

The "under" for the "crowd" at this game is now 6,500.xcoolx

[Philliesfan980]

It's pouring here about 30 miles west of Philadelphia. Looks like I'll be watching this game on CN8 too.

[bulldog10jw]

The "under" for the "crowd" at this game is now 6,500.xcoolx

That might be the "under" for the total attendance at ALL Ivy games this weekend. xsmhx

[Philliesfan980]

It's been a pretty bad season as far as weather goes in the Philly area. It always seems like it's raining or really unseasonably cold on Saturdays. The only game I've been to that the weather has been good has been the Penn Columbia game.

[Philliesfan980]

I don't go, and of course it's sunny.

[Ivytalk]

I don't go, and of course it's sunny.

But it's supposed to get crappy again!xnodx :p

[Philliesfan980]

Nice time consuming drive by Penn stalled by a tough luck interception in the endzone. Let's see how Penn comes back from this.

[Philliesfan980]

Nice interception by Penn's Wynn, 0-0, 8:43 left in the second.

[Philliesfan980]

7-0 Harvard, Pizatti (sp) to Richards. Hopefully Penn comes out a little more agressive in the next series, or this could turn into an ugly game. Harvard looks to be the better team.

[Philliesfan980]

7-0 Harvard at the half. Penn needs to come out more aggressively offensively in the second half.

[Philliesfan980]

17-7 Harvard.. TD run by Penn's Dimaggio.

[Philliesfan980]

62 yard run by Penn's QB Garton.. 13:35 left in the 4th, and we have a game!

[Philliesfan980]

Pizotti marches Harvard right down the field 24-14, 11:30 left in the 4th.

[Harvard Worship]

Man that Garton should run every time. Yikes. Reminds me a bit of our Ryan Fitzpatrick. Elusive.

[Philliesfan980]

Man that Garton should run every time. Yikes. Reminds me a bit of our Ryan Fitzpatrick. Elusive.

Yeah, he looks like he might be a special player, and a Sophmore too. Next year is looking very promising even if they come up a little short today.

[Harvard Worship]

Wow... lucky there. Penn was looking unstoppable on that drive. Huge miss.

[Philliesfan980]

Yep, you're right, that was a huge miss. Looking for a stop here on 3rd and 11.

[Philliesfan980]

Penn's got great field position. They need to score within the next 2 minutes if they want to have a shot.

[Harvard Worship]

oooh interception---awww no, dropped. still in trouble

[Harvard Worship]

uh oh... this is getting tense.

[Philliesfan980]

Another rushing TD for Garton. 24-21 Harvard, 4:36 left in the 4th.

[Philliesfan980]

Huge 3rd and 15 coming up with 3:40 left.

[Philliesfan980]

Harvard completes the 3rd and 15 pass, but only for 5 yards or so! Penn gets the ball back!!

[Harvard Worship]

All momentum gone to quakers, scary.

[Philliesfan980]

Huge 4th and 6 with 1:35 remaining

[Philliesfan980]

Complete to Kyle Durham! 1:27 left on the Harvard 40.

[bulldog10jw]

Yale's D just dominated Princeton's offense today.

Final

Yale 14 Princeton 0

[Harvard Worship]

Could this get any more dramatic?

[Philliesfan980]

Nope HW! I'm loving it!

[Philliesfan980]

Wow.. rookie mistake, but you have to love his agressiveness.

[Harvard Worship]

MY GOD. we live a charmed life.

[Philliesfan980]

Congrats HW.. But I like where Penn is going, they should challenge for the Ivy League next year.

[Harvard Worship]

What a game PhilliesFan. That Garton is the real deal. Penn is going to be an incredible team next year. Looking forward to the rematch in the Stadium. What a spectacular, tense, unexpected ending. Penn really turned up the jets at the end.

[Ivytalk]

Just another day at the office for the Crimson.xcoolx


Nice to pull one out at that old House of Horrors.xnodx

[bulldog10jw]

Just another day at the office for the Crimson.xcoolx


Nice to pull one out at that old House of Horrors.xnodx


Wow. I was looking at the stats. When did Penn come up with an offense. Does that running QB make THAT much of a difference. They just about doubled H's time of possession.

[Philliesfan980]

Wow. I was looking at the stats. When did Penn come up with an offense. Does that running QB make THAT much of a difference. They just about doubled H's time of possession.

It made a huge difference. You could see glimpses of his potential last week against Princeton. They didn't open up the offense until the second half. If Bagnoli let him do his thing in the first, we might have had a different outcome, taking nothing away from Harvard.