TSN Poll (11/10)

[danefan]

1. James Madison Dukes (91) 8-12,7291
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers (17) 8-22,6422
3. Cal Poly Mustangs (2) 7-12,3903
4. Northern Iowa Panthers 8-22,3644
5. Montana Grizzlies 9-12,2475
6. Villanova Wildcats 7-22,1696
7. Richmond Spiders 7-32,0347
8. Weber State Wildcats 9-21,9679
9. Wofford Terriers 7-21,76710
10. Southern Illinois Salukis 7-21,75712
11. Elon Phoenix 8-21,68511
12. William & Mary Tribe 7-21,39414
13. New Hampshire Wildcats 7-21,3758
14. Furman Paladins 7-31,19115
15. Central Arkansas Bears 8-21,15316
16. McNeese State Cowboys 6-394918
17. South Carolina State Bulldogs 8-287119
18. Tennessee State Tigers 8-265322
19. Harvard Crimson 7-159821
20. Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 7-358320
21. Maine Black Bears 7-3561NR
22. Massachusetts Minutemen 6-446213
23. Colgate Raiders 8-238724
24. Liberty Flames 8-227925
25. Western Illinois Leathernecks 5-427417

Others receiving votes: South Dakota State 195, Lafayette 131, Prairie View 118, Jacksonville State 101, Holy Cross 79, North Dakota State 78, Eastern Kentucky 63, Grambling 57, Northern Arizona 53, Montana State 33, Texas State 19, Florida A&M 16, Dayton 14, Northwestern State 13, Albany 12, Monmouth 9, San Diego 6, Morgan State 5, Penn 4, Samford 3, Bethune-Cookman 2, Georgia Southern 2, Hampton 2, Jacksonville 2, Sacred Heart 2, UC Davis 2.

[IaaScribe]

McNeese is WAAAAAAAAAY too high.

[DetroitFlyer]

Maybe someone can explain to me how Harvard is #19, while Dayton is #38...?

[Green Cookie Monster]

How does davis receive two points when we have the same overall record, we beat them at their house and Sac State has a stronger schedule?
As useful as toilet paper.

[GeauxLions94]

Jacksonville??????

[crusader11]

Maybe someone can explain to me how Harvard is #19, while Dayton is #38...?

Because Dayton is bad and Harvard is good.

[nmatsen]

Maybe someone can explain to me how Harvard is #19, while Dayton is #38...?


Because Harvard plays teams that have players on their team that receive compensation for playing football. Why do you insist on answering questions you know the answer to. Be happy with your "mid major" number one ranking. You don't see me saying "why isn't UNI ranked in the BCS poll?" We do not belong, neither does Dayton.

[danefan]

Because Harvard plays teams that have players on their team that receive compensation for playing football. Why do you insist on answering questions you know the answer to. Be happy with your "mid major" number one ranking. You don't see me saying "why isn't UNI ranked in the BCS poll?" We do not belong, neither does Dayton.

Who do they play? PL teams? Because if you are referring to Ivy league schools has having "players on their team that receive compensation for playing football" then you are just blatantly wrong. Ivy kids and PFL kids get the same aid.

And there is no mid-major ranking.

[dbackjon]

McNeese is WAAAAAAAAAY too high.

Agreed.

[dbackjon]

Maybe someone can explain to me how Harvard is #19, while Dayton is #38...?

It is a secret conspiracy against Dayton. Everyone is in on it.

[nmatsen]

I was under the impression that Harvard played semi-scholarship competition? My bad, I guess that they don't belong anywhere near the top 25 either. If they got rid of the mid major poll I guess I must have missed. Apparently they didn't feel it was very important either.

If you do not give scholarships or play teams with scholarships I believe you are looking for the Division III message board.

[danefan]

I was under the impression that Harvard played semi-scholarship competition? My bad, I guess that they don't belong anywhere near the top 25 either. If they got rid of the mid major poll I guess I must have missed. Apparently they didn't feel it was very important either.

If you do not give scholarships or play teams with scholarships I believe you are looking for the Division III message board.


Harvard's schedule/results. Holy Cross, Lafayette and Lehigh offer equivalencies. Ivy league teams offer $0 in financial aid based on athletic ability. Same for PFL schools.

Sep 19 - W vs. Holy Cross, 25-24
Sep 27 - L at Brown, 22-24
Oct 4 - W at Lafayette, 27-13
Oct 11 - W vs. Cornell, 38-17
Oct 18 - W vs. Lehigh, 27-24
Oct 25 - W at Princeton, 24-20
Nov 1 - W at Dartmouth, 35-7
Nov 8 - W vs. Columbia, 42-28
Nov 15 - at Penn, 12:00 PM
Nov 22 - vs. Yale, 12:00 PM

And the mid-major poll was stopped because it was an endeavor to create a subdivision within a subdivions that made little sense once the NEC skipped town.

[AppGrad06]

It is a secret conspiracy against Dayton. Everyone is in on it.

I guess he didn't get that memo.

[Eight Legger]

Dayton fans, get your AD to call ours, or the AD at UMass or URI. He should know them since we're all in the A-10 together. I bet one of us would play you guys on the football field, and then we wouldn't have to wonder if you deserve more respect or not.

[FargoBison]

PFL fans like to build up gaudy records against nobodies and then complain about not getting respect. Funny thing is that their admin seems to be just fine with the status quo, if they wanted to be a playoff conference they could apply for an autobid or at least make it a conference goal to put together credible schedules but they don't.

[tribe_pride]

It is a secret conspiracy against Dayton. Everyone is in on it.

I don't vote but does anyone not vote for Dayton because it is fun to watch DetroitFlyer complain each week and he annoys them?

[dbackjon]

I don't vote but does anyone not vote for Dayton because it is fun to watch DetroitFlyer complain each week and he annoys them?

No, they only do that against NAU and me xlolx xlolx xlolx

[StrikeJMU]

JMU = Wayyyyy to low. ;)

[LehighFan11]

I don't vote but does anyone not vote for Dayton because it is fun to watch DetroitFlyer complain each week and he annoys them?
Haha, I'd vote for Dayton if they did anything.

[mango43]

Western Illinois is ranked but SDSU isn't? Did TSN forget that SDSU already owns a win against the Leathernecks and that WIU has lost 2 in a row?? The Jacks have a 6-4 record, with three loses against teams ranked in the top 5 at the time, compared to a 5-4 record for the Leathernecks.

makes sense to me xeyebrowx

[UNI Pike]

Maybe someone can explain to me how Harvard is #19, while Dayton is #38...?

Said before, your are welcome to visit the UNIDOME anytime...

Until then

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[mountain_man]

Maybe someone can explain to me how Harvard is #19, while Dayton is #38...?

I was just wondering the same thing...xrolleyesx

I was also wondering why App State hasn't been invited to one of the BCS games.xcoffeex


You know, I think Dayton should make the playoffs. Let em' play App or JMU or UM or Weber St. or UNI. Hell, let em' play anyone that deserves to make the playoffs. That should take care of Flyer's drivel.

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"What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach."

[McNeese75]

McNeese is WAAAAAAAAAY too high.

yeah, yeah and what do you know? xcoffeex

[achrist70]

Western Illinois is ranked but SDSU isn't? Did TSN forget that SDSU already owns a win against the Leathernecks and that WIU has lost 2 in a row?? The Jacks have a 6-4 record, with three loses against teams ranked in the top 5 at the time, compared to a 5-4 record for the Leathernecks.

makes sense to me xeyebrowx

Agreed

[IaaScribe]

yeah, yeah and what do you know? xcoffeex

6-3 with exactly one win against an FCS team with a winning record. No chance of earning an at-large bid. Yet McNeese is still 16th in one poll and 14th in another? Fail. Criminally overrated.

Oh, but I forgot, McNeese played UNC tough. xcoffeex

[HensRock]

Maybe someone can explain to me how Harvard is #19, while Dayton is #38...?

It's because there are only 18 teams better than Harvard in FCS and about 37 teams in FCS better than Dayton.

You're Welcome!

[Retro]

6-3 with exactly one win against an FCS team with a winning record. No chance of earning an at-large bid. Yet McNeese is still 16th in one poll and 14th in another? Fail. Criminally overrated.

Oh, but I forgot, McNeese played UNC tough. xcoffeex

So, who exactly below Mcneese do you think should be higher than them?? Mcneese losses are 8 pts to UNC (TOP 25 FBS), 3 pts to Texas st (conf leader) and 3 points to Nicholls and win over SDSU.

I don't see how you can say they are too high when there are no better teams shown below them, even if those teams have only 2 losses, yet weaker conferences or opponents..

[IaaScribe]

I'd put Tenn.-Martin, S.C. State, Maine and Colgate ahead of McNeese. Cowboys should be in the 20-21 range.

And Texas State led that game by 25 in the fourth quarter. Let's not start acting like that was a tight game throughout.

[ThreadStopper]

I love this site!

Dayton is the new San Diego.

Hang in there Flyer!

[McNeese75]

I'd put Tenn.-Martin, S.C. State, Maine and Colgate ahead of McNeese. Cowboys should be in the 20-21 range.

And Texas State led that game by 25 in the fourth quarter. Let's not start acting like that was a tight game throughout.

And just what have any of those teams (besides Maine, I will give them their due after last week's win against what everyone up north says is a good Umass team) done that makes them so outstanding?

Your opinoin is of course your own but not worth anymore than anyone else and to us, not as much xcoffeex

[McNeese75]

I'd put Tenn.-Martin, S.C. State, Maine and Colgate ahead of McNeese. Cowboys should be in the 20-21 range.

And Texas State led that game by 25 in the fourth quarter. Let's not start acting like that was a tight game throughout.

xlolx You act like Tx State put in their subs in the 4th quarter. That didn't happen and you know it.

[MaxASU'81]

Maybe someone can explain to me how Harvard is #19, while Dayton is #38...?

Because they play Davidson!xwhistlex

[Native]

...If they got rid of the mid major poll I guess I must have missed. Apparently they didn't feel it was very important either.

If you do not give scholarships or play teams with scholarships I believe you are looking for the Division III message board.

Bad call! xnonono2x xnonono2x xnonono2x

Dayton may not deserve to be rated higher than #38 in the FCS polls, but that's a pretty darn impressive accomplishment without scholarships. xsmiley_wix

Good on Dayton, and all the other non-schollie D1 football programs and non-schollie players. xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx

[R3TRO]

Soooo... is Villanova not moving anywhere in the rankings for playoff bracketing reasons or.........? Maybe someone can clear this up for me.

[Native]

How does davis receive two points when we have the same overall record, we beat them at their house and Sac State has a stronger schedule?
As useful as toilet paper.

Great game Hornets! Congrats! xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx

Polls suck. What's new?xeyebrowx

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

How does davis receive two points when we have the same overall record, we beat them at their house and Sac State has a stronger schedule?
As useful as toilet paper.


See now, I have found that very useful over the years.

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

Soooo... is Villanova not moving anywhere in the rankings for playoff bracketing reasons or.........? Maybe someone can clear this up for me.


I don't think anyone ranked above them lost.

[R3TRO]

I don't think anyone ranked above them lost.

I'm embarrassed. xsmiley_wix

I still think they're better than one or two of those teams above them. xthumbsupx