Validity of SWAC Sports?

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Not sure that outside of football, maybe basketball (since we see everyone else) and perhaps track, do I want to see other SWAC competitions. Baseball would be hideous and softball would be downright scary. Soccer is the worst of all, if it can be given such a title. I've seen these SWAC teams who are ranked high in these sports within their conference. U-G-L-Y!

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Not sure that outside of football, maybe basketball (since we see everyone else) and perhaps track, do I want to see other SWAC competitions. Baseball would be hideous and softball would be downright scary. Soccer is the worst of all, if it can be given such a title. I've seen these SWAC teams who are ranked high in these sports within their conference. U-G-L-Y!
PLEASE DON'T SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE INGNORANT ABOUT.First of all Southern(which is in the swac) over the last three seasons has had 24 players drafted in the baseball draft. That number is more than any other college over that period of time. In 2003 Southern had the number 2 pick overall RICKEY WEEKS. Rickey won the Dick Howser Award(baseball heisman) and every other national award. He was the first player to win all the awards. During that season Southern was ranked as high as #26. We beat N0. 12 Southern Miss. in the regionals.We also beat No.1 LSU in 2002. We had 10 players to get drafted that year. Last season Texas Southern(Swac) beat No.1 Rice(defending national champions) in the regionals. Here is a little history on Southern Baseball. Have you ever heard of Lou Brock.
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now softball. Last season Mississippi Valley State(Swac) won 2 games in the NCAA regionals before losing to UCLA.

Please in the future before you talk please do some research.

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PLEASE DON'T SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE INGNORANT ABOUT.First of all Southern(which is in the swac) over the last three seasons has had 24 players drafted in the baseball draft. That number is more than any other college over that period of time. In 2003 Southern had the number 2 pick overall RICKEY WEEKS. Rickey won the Dick Howser Award(baseball heisman) and every other national award. He was the first player to win all the awards. During that season Southern was ranked as high as #26. We beat N0. 12 Southern Miss. in the regionals.We also beat No.1 LSU in 2002. We had 10 players to get drafted that year. Last season Texas Southern(Swac) beat No.1 Rice(defending national champions) in the regionals. Here is a little history on Southern Baseball. Have you ever heard of Lou Brock.

now softball. Last season Mississippi Valley State(Swac) won 2 games in the NCAA regionals before losing to UCLA.

Please in the future before you talk please do some research.

There are a good team or two in the SWAC. However, I've seen Texas Southern and Prairie View A&M play college baseball and softball. It's not pretty. TSU did beat Rice last year at the Reck, but they have nowhere near the depth to go a regional. Against Sam, they were plunking folks left and right, dropping balls and misplaying grounders like mad. It was tough to determine errors and hits. Prarie View A&M's softball team was the TSU version of softball. Plunked batters. Dropped grounders and flyouts. I've seen softball, but I'd say most 5As in the state could knock them off.

So, yes. Southern has always pretty much dominated the SWAC in recent years, but the league outside of a team or two is pretty weak. It's definitely a collective UGH watching these teams. And Texas Southern even plays at a city park!

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Southern's Baseball RPI:
05: 189
04: 170
03: 65
02: 79
01: 88

Southern's Baseball Strength of Schedule:
04: 280
03: 266
02: 271
01: 253

Current SWAC Conference RPI:
31st out of 31 conference

Numbers don't lie Jaguar fan.

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Southern's Baseball RPI:
05: 189
04: 170
03: 65
02: 79
01: 88

Southern's Baseball Strength of Schedule:
04: 280
03: 266
02: 271
01: 253

Current SWAC Conference RPI:
31st out of 31 conference

Numbers don't lie Jaguar fan.
Southern's 24 player drafted over the last 3 season doesn't lie. Talent is talent plan and simple. The swac rpi is dragged down because of 1 or 2 teams. The fact that the swac has had victories in the last 2 regionals says a lot about the swac. Most teams mid-week pitchers are better than most of the swac's mid-week starters. But when you match up weekend starters it is a different story. In 2003 Southern by far had the most talented team(position players)and it was proven by the draft. Southern just didn't enough pitchers. Southern starter in the first game with #12 Southern Miss pitched a 3 hitter over 8 and 2/3.

Check out a couple of our signees for this upcoming season. :)
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Apr 14, 2005

Southern Baseball Inks Cameron Maybin, Calvin Anderson
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Baton Rouge, LA -- Head baseball coach, Roger Cador, has announced the signing of two nationally regarded high school baseball players. Southern has signed outfielder, Cameron Maybin of Arden, NC and Calvin Anderson of Kirkland, WA.

"Southern is very fortunate to win the signing sweepstakes for these young men. Maybin was chosen as Baseball America's High School Player of the Year at the MLB Winter Meetings over Justin Upton, so this is a tremendous opportunity for Southern and my program," said Roger Cador. "We outdid a "Who's who" in college baseball to get this young man to sign. It is huge for our program, coming off of having Rickie Weeks a couple of seasons ago (#2 overall selection in 2003 MLB Draft)."

"Obviously, if Maybin goes pro, we wont have his services, but he has promised that if things don't work out with the draft, then he could very well end up in a SU uniform," added Cador.

"This is a kid who never even visited our campus, so get have him sign is just tremendous. His father promised us that he would sign on the 1st day of spring signings and that is just what he did."

"Calvin Anderson is another solid prospect that will be a difference maker in our program. At 6-7 he can do a lot of things, shorter athletes do, and he is very polished," remarked Cador.

"Anderson has some ties to the SWAC, in that his father played at Prairie View. He wanted to experience the southern culture, and we were able to sell him Southern University and our baseball program."

"I have never had this type of commitment from two such highly regarded players before, in my 25 years of coaching," said Cador.

2005 BASEBALL SIGNEES:

Cameron Maybin 6-3 195 OF R/R Arden, NC (TC Roberson HS)
Projected as 1st or 2nd high school player to be chosen in upcoming MLB Draft. Potential to be the #1 overall selection. Currently batting .692, with 9 home runs and 16 stolen bases in 13 games.

Calvin Anderson 6-7 240 1B R/R Kirkland, WA (Seattle Prep HS)
Projected as a low 1st round or early 2nd round selection. Very polished player for his age.


http://www.swacpage.com/articles/article1280.shtml

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CCU Jacket and Texas Terror please list some accomplishment of your baseball program.

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The Chants play a much tougher schedule than the Jags and win more. I'll leave it at that.

Big South = #8
SWAC = #31

[TexasTerror]

Moving this over here because we don't want to get so fiesty under football, talking about how the SWAC doesn't have many sports outside of football, track and perhaps basketball that are quality to watch...

SUjagTILLiDIE...below is SHSU's baseball history and perhaps if we played in the SWAC, we would be pretty good. I recall in SHSU soccer that outside of a win and a tie in conference, our team has not defeated anyone, BUT teams in the SWAC. That's 22-3, 17-0 and 15-0 against Texas Southern. 3-0 over PV A&M and 5-0 over Grambling. I doubt we'll play SWAC schools more than once, twice a year unless we want to boost some statistics.

It's just not a good conference, not even in basketball, unless your talking about play-in game championships. Track and football are solid SWAC sports, but then again, it's just at the top with football. Here's hoping that atleast PV A&M and TxSo can turn the ships around, but they've been trying for decades...

National Championship Appearances...
BASEBALL
1960 - NAIA World Series (4th)
1961 - NAIA World Series (5th)
1962 - NAIA World Series (6th)
1963 - NAIA World Series (1st)
1964 - NAIA World Series (4th)
1965 - NAIA World Series (4th)
1972 - NAIA World Series (3rd)
1974 - NAIA World Series (2nd)
1975 - NAIA World Series (2nd)
1984 - NCAA Div. II Regionals (5th)
1985 - NCAA Div. II Regionals (3rd)
1986 - NCAA Div. II Regionals (3rd)
1987 - NCAA Div. I Regionals (3rd)
1989 - NCAA Div. I Regionals (4th)
1996 - NCAA Div. I Regionals (3rd)

Conference titles...
BASEBALL
1953 - Lone Star Conference
1954 - Lone Star Conference
1981 - Lone Star Conference
1982 - Lone Star Conference
1985 - Gulf Star Conference
1986 - Gulf Star Conference
1987 - Gulf Star Conference
1989 - Southland Conference
1996 - SLC Post Season Tournament

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2003 Southern University's Rickie Week (no.2 overall pick in the MLB draft) won the Dick Howser Trophy(baseball heisman trophy) and every other college award, making him the first player to win all the awards.
Southern's Rickie Weeks Wins 2003 Golden Spikes Award

July 15, 2003

Durham, North Carolina - USA Baseball has announced that Rickie Weeks - an infielder from Southern University - topped an incredibly talented field of five finalists to capture the 2003 Golden Spikes Award, amateur baseball's most prestigous honor. The 26th presentation of the award, which is sponsored annually by the Major League Baseball Players Association, will be held at a later date and time to be determined.



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Rickie Weeks
Weeks - a native of Altamonte Springs, Florida - won back-to-back NCAA batting titles (2002-03) with batting averages of .495 and .479, respectively. In 2003, Weeks went 78-for-163 with an NCAA-best 1.61 runs scored per game (82 in 51 contests). He added 16 home runs and 66 RBI and was named the Southwestern Athletic Conference Player of the Year for the second straight year. Weeks led Southern to the nation's best winning percentage (.863) in Division I baseball this season at 44-7. The standout capped his season by belting a two-run homer to push the Jaguars into the second round of the NCAA Hattiesburg Regional with a 5-3 triumph over Southern Mississippi.

"Growing up as a little kid, I always wanted to be considered one of the best players in the country. So, I'm very elated to win the USA Baseball Golden Spikes Award - it's the Heisman Trophy of baseball." Weeks, who has won every 2003 National Player-of-the-Year award to date, was the 2nd overall pick in this past June's Major League Baseball Draft by the Milwaukee Brewers.

"USA Baseball is extremely proud to honor Rickie Weeks of Southern University with the 2003 Golden Spikes Award," said Paul Seiler, USA Baseball Executive Director / CEO. "Rickie's magnificent collegiate career in which he helped put the Jaguars back on the college baseball map, certainly proves he was the most outstanding amateur player this year. We're also excited that Rickie is such an exemplary young man off the field, and we're very happy for the Southern baseball program and their head coach, Roger Cador."

For the past 25 years, USA Baseball has honored the top amateur baseball player in the country with the Golden Spikes Award. (See winners box below.) The award is presented each year to the player who exhibits exceptional athletic ability and exemplary sportsmanship. Past winners of this prestigious award include current Major League Baseball stars J. D. Drew, Pat Burrell, Mark Kotsay, Jason Jennings and Mark Prior, as well as 2002 winner Khalil Greene of the San Diego Padres.

The television special was aired across the nation this afternoon on Fox Sports Net South, Fox Sports Net Bay Area, Cox Sports TV New Orleans, Comcast/Charter Sports Southeast, Comcast Sports Net Mid Atlantic, and CSTV.

The Golden Spikes Award is sponsored by the Major League Baseball Players Association (MLBPA), underscoring the commitment of Major League Baseball players to the grassroots development of baseball programs, particularly for youth, around the world. The MLBPA supports USA Baseball's ongoing efforts to provide instruction for youth baseball players, coaches, and volunteers, and to prepare amateur athletes for professional competition.

Golden Spikes Award Winners

Year GSA Recipient School
2003 Rickie Weeks - Southern
2002 Khalil Greene - Clemson
2001 Mark Prior - Southern California
2000 Kip Bouknight - South Carolina
1999 Jason Jennings - Baylor
1998 Pat Burrell - Miami
1997 J.D. Drew - Florida State
1996 Travis Lee - San Diego State
1995 Mark Kotsay - Cal State Fullerton
1994 Jason Varitek - Georgia Tech
1993 Darren Dreifort - Wichita State
1992 Phil Nevin - Cal State Fullerton
1991 Mike Kelly - Arizona State
1990 Alex Fernandez - Miami-Dade South
1989 Ben McDonald - Louisiana State
1988 Robin Ventura - Oklahoma State
1987 Jim Abbott - Michigan
1986 Mike Loynd - Florida State
1985 Will Clark - Mississippi State
1984 Oddibe McDowell - Arizona State
1983 Dave Magadan - Alabama
1982 Augie Schmidt - New Orleans
1981 Mike Fuentes - Florida State
1980 Terry Francona - Arizona
1979 Tim Wallace - Cal State Fullerton
1978 Bob Horner - Arizona State

2003 Golden Spikes Award Finalists
Michael Aubrey - Tulane
Carlos Quentin - Stanford
Kyle Sleeth - Wake Forest
Tim Stauffer - Richmond
Rickie Weeks - Southern



Weeks wins Rotary Smith Award

June 27, 2003

By Joseph Schiefelbein
Baton Rouge Advocate sportswriter

Rickie Weeks never has said much about himself. Not that he needs to.

The huge numbers he put up as Southern University's second baseman and the national awards he's been getting lately speak volumes.

Weeks received his second collegiate baseball player of the year trophy with the presentation of the Rotary Smith Award on Thursday night in Houston.

Weeks already won the Dick Howser Trophy and was selected as the national player of the year by two publications, Collegiate Baseball and Baseball America.

The awards continue to underscore the amazing story of Weeks, who went undrafted out of high school and offered scholarships by only two colleges yet was, as the No. 2 pick of the Milwaukee Brewers, the first collegiate player taken earlier this month in baseball's draft.

"If you play hard, people are going to find you," said Weeks, still in negotiations with the Brewers. "Coach told me, when I first met him, that anything is possible."

Weeks, twice a member of the Baseball USA team and a three-time All-American, let his play do his talking.

In three seasons he hit .467 and was caught stealing only once in 70 tries as Southern went 135-29 with three NCAA Tournament appearances. Southern didn't have a stadium at Lee-Hines Field until this season and the team doesn't have a locker room, often with players changing into practice gear in their cars.

"I'm just overwhelmed for him to win this great award," Southern coach Roger Cador said. "To see Rickie come out on top, with all the obstacles he faced at Southern, in terms of facilities and other things ... That didn't stop him from believing in himself."

One more major award is still left. Weeks is one of five finalists, along with former Tulane first baseman Michael Aubrey, for the Golden Spikes Award.

Thursday night, Weeks, 6-foot, bested two hulking players: 6-9 sophomore pitcher Jeff Niemann from national champion Rice and 6-4 junior first baseman Billy Becher of New Mexico State.

This season, Weeks hit .483, becoming only the second player to lead Division I in batting average for two straight seasons, as the Jaguars went 47-7 and won an NCAA Tournament game.

Last season, when Weeks hit .495 for Southern (45-10), he became the first player to lead the nation in batting average and slugging percentage since the NCAA began keeping statistics in 1957.

The last two seasons, Weeks hit .488, with 36 home runs and 162 RBIs.

"The way Rickie's handled himself made a tremendous impression," Cador said. "When you're a quality person, good news spreads fast.

"People knew about his reputation as a player and a person, so that really aided him. He thought more about others than himself. That's unique in the world. You see how athletes act today. But in the long run, he's been rewarded."

Former LSU star Ben McDonald won the Rotary Smith Award in 1989, then the award's second year.

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Southern U's Rickie Weeks Named 17th Recipient Of Dick Howser Trophy, College Baseball Player of Year

June 13, 2003

OMAHA, Neb.-Rickie Weeks, the first standout from the Southwestern Athletic Conference to receive the honor and NCAA Division I batting champion for two consecutive seasons, has been named as winner of the 17th annual Dick Howser Trophy as 2003 college baseball player of the year.

In voting by members of the National Collegiate Baseball Writers Association in conjunction with the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Area Chamber of Commerce, Weeks is the second straight Florida resident to capture the prestigious Howser Trophy. Last year Clemson shortstop Khalil Greene of Key West, Fla. (also the hometown of Dick Howser's Florida State fellow alumnus Burt Reynolds), earned top laurels.

The 2003 and 2002 numbers posted by the 2003 winner are among the finest in NCAA history.

Weeks has led the nation hitting in each of the last two seasons averages of .495 and .479, respectively, as the second baseman from Altamonte Springs, Fla., rolled to one of the most successful careers in college baseball history.

During the 2003 campaign the 2002 Howser Trophy finalist as a sophomore hit was 78-for-163 with a NCAA-best 1.61 runs scored per game (82 in 51 contests), hit 16 home runs and drove in 66 runs.

A year earlier, he posted equally-outstanding numbers with a .495 average, 98-for-198 platework, 63 runs scored, a Southern-season-record 20 home runs and school-most 96 RBI.

Over his last 107 games in college he batted .488 with 36 home runs and 162 RBI for an average of 1.55 runs-batted-in each outing. He also notched Southwestern Athletic Conference Player of the Year and consensus All-America honors in each of his last two campaigns. He played on a SU team which sported the nation's best winning percentage (.863) in DI baseball this season at 44-7 and belted a two-run homer to push the Jaguars into the second round of the NCAA Hattiesburg Regional with a 5-3 triumph.

The second straight Florida resident to win the Howser Trophy was the second player selected in the 2003 Major League Baseball Draft by the Milwaukee Brewers. He currently is awaiting possible signing or returning to Southern for his senior season.

Weeks also distinguished himself as COLLEGIATE BASEBALL 2003 Player of the Year, was a COLLEGIATE BASEBALL Freshman All-America in 2001 and played on the USA Baseball National Summer Team for two seasons.

"We could not be more pleased to present the Dick Howser Trophy to a deserving young man like Rickie Weeks," said Howser Trophy chair David P. Feaster of the Greater St. Petersburg Chamber of Commerce and Signature Bank-Florida. "He had an amazing season in 2003 and has put together two of the most successful back-to-back individual seasons in college baseball history."

The Dick Howser Trophy, given in memory of the former Florida State University All-America shortstop and major league player and manager who died of brain cancer in 1987, is regarded by many as college baseball's most prestigious award.

In addition to Friday's presentation by NCBWA Rob Carolla of the Big East Conference USA, there will be a special ceremony before or during a 2003 Southern football contest to be determined to award Weeks the trophy in front of a "home" audience.

Criteria for consideration for the trophy include performance on the field, leadership, moral character and courage, qualities that were exemplified by Dick Howser's life.

A Florida native, Howser was twice an All-America shortstop at Florida State University (1957-58), then coached the Seminoles in 1979 after a career as a major league player and coach. The personable college standout and successful Major League manager also served as an analyst for ESPN's coverage of the 1981 NCAA World Series with Jim Simpson. After one year in the college ranks, Howser returned to the majors to manage the New York Yankees and Kansas City Royals and won the World Series with the Royals in 1985. The baseball stadium on the Florida State campus is named for Howser.

The winner's name is inscribed on the permanent trophy, a bronze bust of Howser permanently displayed at Tropicana Field in St. Petersburg, home of the Tampa Bay D-Rays and the 1999 NCAA Men's Basketball Final Four, among other championship events. Both the winner and his school receive a special trophy to keep on public display at the university.

The St. Petersburg Area Chamber of Commerce celebrated its 100th birthday in 1999 and is in the midst of its third century of service to the community and nation in 2002. The organization has long been a vital force in the baseball affairs of the city, both in spring training and during the pursuit of a major league baseball franchise for the Tampa Bay area, and continues its solid role in the in both college and professional sports as well as serving as the home for the Association of Professional Baseball Leagues.

NCBWA membership includes writers, broadcasters and publicists. Designed to promote and publicize college baseball, it is the sport's only college media-related organization, founded in 1962, and just celebrated its 40th anniversary as an organization in 2002.

The Howser Trophy was created in 1987, shortly after Howser's death. 1987-98 winners were selected by the American Baseball Coaches Association before the NCBWA became the voting body in 1999.

Previous winners of the Howser Trophy are Mike Fiore, Miami (Fla.), 1987; Robin Ventura, Oklahoma State, 1988; Scott Bryant, Texas, 1989; Alex Fernandez, Miami-Dade Community College South, 1990; Frank Rodriguez, Howard College (Texas), 1991; Brooks Kieschnick, Texas, 1992 and 1993; Jason Varitek, Georgia Tech, 1994; Todd Helton, Tennessee, 1995; Kris Benson, Clemson, 1996; J. D. Drew, Florida State, 1997; Eddy Furniss, LSU, 1998; Jason Jennings, Baylor, 1999; Mark Teixeira, Georgia Tech, 2000; Mark Prior, Southern California, 2001; Khalil Greene, Clemson, 2002; Rickie Weeks, Southern, 2003.

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2004 Division I Baseball Championship:
Texas Southern 4, Rice 3

June 4, 2004

HOUSTON -- Herman Coachman's three-run homer in the top of the eighth inning has lifted Texas Southern to a 4-3 victory over number four ranked Rice 4-3 in the first round of the NCAA Regional Tournament Saturday evening at Reckling Park.
The Owls (43-13) will now face either Texas A&M or Lamar in an elimination game at 11 am Saturday while the Tigers of TSU (now 19-33) advance to the winners' bracket at 3 pm.

After Rice starter Philip Humber worked out of a bases-loaded jam in the top of the third inning with a strikeout and double play, the Owls opened the scoring in the bottom of the frame with a pair of runs on three hits. Senior Chris Kolkhorst singled and scored on a double by Austin Davis. Junior shortstop Paul Janish drove in Davis with a single to center.

TSU put men in scoring position in the third and sixth innings, but Humber was able to work out of trouble with with inning-ending strikeouts. In the seventh the Tigers rallied for a run on three hits to cut the margin to 2-1.

Rice answered with a run in its half of the inning when Kolkhorst singled and scored on Davis' second double of the game. In the eighth TSU scored three runs to take their first lead, 4-3. The Big blow was a three-run homer to left by freshman third baseman Coachmen.

Rice proceeded to put the tying run on third base in each of the next two innings, including a bases-loaded situation in the ninth, but the Owls could not bring home the tying run. Tiger reliever Brandon Stricklen earned a save by pitching the final two innings without allowing a run Starting in the eighth inning both teams endured two severe delays that lasted a total of three hours and thirty-seven minutes.

It was TSU's first-ever win over Rice in nine-career meetings and the Tigers' first win in their first-ever NCAA post-season appearance.

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2003 Division I Baseball: Southern U. 5, Southern Miss 3

May 30, 2003

HATTIESBURG, Miss. -- Ricky Weeks proved his all-star status as he led Southern University over NCAA Regional host Southern Miss, 5-3, today, in the first game of the NCAA Region 10 tournament. The junior hit 2-for-3 with a single, a two-run home run and three RBIs.

Southern starting pitcher Duwon Day (10-0) went 8 2/3 innings and tossed a three-hitter to remain undefeated on the year. Day gave up two earned runs, five walks and struck out one.

The Jaguars face the winner of the Murray State-Baylor game, which begins at 7 p.m., on Saturday, May 31, at 3 p.m. The Golden Eagles match up against the loser of the MSU-BU game, on Saturday, at 11 a.m.

Southern Miss (45-15) challenged the Jaguars' lead in the bottom of the ninth. With two runners on, the Golden Eagles brought Matt Shepherd to the plate, but facing a 3-2 count, the shortstop saw strike three to end the game.

Southern (46-5) was down 2-1, at the top of the fifth inning, when Brandon Mason doubled in Alfred Ard, and Weeks popped a Texas leaguer into right field to score Mason for the 3-2 lead.

In the seventh, Weeks produced his 17th home run of the season, scoring Antoin Gray on the two-run blast to left center field and giving the Jaguars the eventual 5-3 victory.

Jason Lowery started the scoring for the Eagles in the third. The sophomore reached home on Shepherd's ground out to second base. The Jags countered in the top of the fourth, when Gray came home as a result of a throwing error by USM catcher Brad Willcutt.

Jeff Cook scored in the fourth off Clint King's ground out to first, and Jarrett Hoffpauir reached the plate after two errors on the same play by shortstop Fernando Puebla and rightfielder Marcus Townsend.

Eagle starting pitcher Bob McCrory (10-3) went six innings and took the loss. The junior surrendered four hits, one earned run and two walks and fanned 10 Jaguars.

Postgame Quotes

Southern Miss Coach Corky Palmer
" Duwon Day was the story of the day. He gave up three hits. When he walked a guy, we never got a big hit. Day gave up one home run all year, so stats do mean something. We played poor on defense; Bob McCrory was outstanding. We just couldn't get the big hit, and the guy just beat us with all fastballs. You learn something everyday in college baseball."

Southern U. Coach Roger Cador
" I thought it was an interesting game. We obviously did not play extremely well early. We looked bad. But one thing I told the players prior to the game was not to panic. If two or three innings happen where we don't look good, something goes bad, remember that games have a way of changing, and we've played games like that before where we've not done so well early and then come back and get our confidence and composure. Today we did that. We put some pressure on the defense, we got some key hits, and I thought the two-run homer Rickie (Weeks) hit in the sixth made the difference. It gave us a miracle and a little room for mistakes."

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SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY BASEBALL

22 SWAC Baseball Titles:
59, 60, 65, 69, 70, 72,74, 75, 76, 79, 81,87,88, 91, 92, 93, 96, 97,
98, 01, 02, 03
5 NCAA regional Appearances:
88,97,99,01,02,03

During the 1988 season Southern University beat No.1 Call State Ful. in the NCAA baseball regionals.

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1978 Southern University Danny Goodwin was the No.1 overall pick in the MLB draft.

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Brice breaks through in 100
TSU senior has world's best time so far this year
By SARAH HORNADAY
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle
AUSTIN - Tremedia Brice started her final year at Texas Southern focused on going out in style. The hard work is beginning to pay off for the senior speedster, who won the 100 meters at the Texas Relays on Saturday

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Division I Softball Championship:
MVSU eliminates Missouri to stay alive
May 21, 2004

Final Stats

Los Angeles, Calif. - Natasha McFadden's three-run homer in the bottom of the 6th inning lifted Mississippi Valley State to a 4-3 victory over Missouri in the NCAA Division I Softball Regional Championships.

The Delta Devilettes scored four runs on five hits to stay alive in the double-elimination tournament.

Elizabeth Imbert picked up her 10th win of the season in relief of starter Deanna Baker. Nicole Henderson got the save.

MVSU returns to action at 7:00pm Friday when they face the Big Red of Cornell in another elimination game.

Missouri falls to 29-26 on the season while MVSU improves to 32-16.

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2004 Division I Softball Championship:
MVSU advances to Regional Semifinals with win over Cornell
May 21, 2004
After making history in the morning with the first-ever SWAC victory in an NCAA Regional Softball Tournament, Mississippi Valley State eliminated its second opponent of the day and advanced to the Regional Semifinals with a 6-0 victory over Cornell.

MVSU jumped out to a 2-0 lead in the first inning and extended the lead to 6-0 before withstanding a three-run Big Red rally in the top of the seventh.

Tonya Johns and Nakelya Moragne both had two hits and two RBI for the Delta Devilettes.

Nicole Henderson pitched a complete game, scattering 8 hits over seven innings.

“It can be done! We are letting everyone know that we play great softball at MVSU and that we can play on a national level,” stated MVSU Head Coach Lee Smith. “We’re not just trying to win a conference championship, but we want to compete on a national level and win on a national level."

MVSU (33-16) will face Long Beach State (50-12) at 3:30pm Saturday in its third elimination game in two days

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Texas Southern’s Brice Wins NCAA 200 Meters Title

March 14, 2005

By: Jordan Wade- Texas Southern Media Relations

Texas Southern track star Tremedia Brice won the Indoor Championship in the 200 meters with a time 22.90 this past Saturday at the NCAA Indoor Championships in Fayetteville, Arkansas.

Brice was ranked tops in the nation throughout the indoor season in the 200 meters. She also was ranked in the top five in the 60 meters.

Brice won both the 60 meters and the 200 meters at the SWAC Indoor Championships Feb. 24-26.

Fans will be able to see the National Champion as she runs in the 54th annual TSU

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Southern's Brian Johnson Captures Long Jump National Title
March 15, 2003

BATON ROUGE, LA * Southern’s Brian Johnson, a senior from Iowa, LA, left basketball behind in January as he saw his playing time dwindling, to concentrate on track and field, and the move resulted in a national title in the long jump in the NCAA Indoor Championships held in Fayetteville, AR this weekend.

In his first NCAA indoor meet, Johnson sailed 27 feet, 2 inches on his first attempt to blow away the competition in the Randal Tyson Track Center. His second- and third-longest jumps measured 26-9 and would have been good enough to beat runner-up Frank Tolen of Nebraska, who had a 26-61/4.

A two-time All-American outdoors, Johnson came into the meet with the second-longest jump in the NCAA this winter. He left with the third-longest jump in the world, trailing only Yago Lamela of Spain (27-8) and Savante Stringfellow of the United States (27-21/2).

"I came here with a mission: I wanted to win a national title," said Johnson, who has finished third in the last two NCAA outdoor meets. "I didn't feel good in warmups, but I got a rubdown and felt kind of loose after that."

Johnson's winning mark Friday night was 111/4 inches longer than the 26-23/4 he posted at Houston on Feb. 15. LSU's John Moffitt, the national leader with a best of 26-61/4 coming into the meet, finished fifth with a 26-1.

It was actually over before it started for Moffitt, who was jumping in the second flight of the trials. Johnson popped his winning jump in the first flight, leaving the rest of the field behind early.

"The first jump didn't surprise me at all," said Southern coach Johnny Thomas, who gave an assist to Jaguars basketball coach Ben Jobe for letting Johnson, who is on scholarship for basketball, focus on track.

"I was hoping he would get in the first flight and get a good one in and get the other guys off his back. I wanted other people to think, and it seemed like it worked out like that."

With the victory, Johnson joined former Southern standouts Theron Lewis and Rodney Milburn as the only Jaguars to win titles in the 39-year history of the NCAA indoor meet.

Lewis claimed the 440-yard dash in 1965 and Milburn took the 55-meter hurdles crown in 1973.

Johnson, who was playing basketball during the last three NCAA indoor meets, said last week he wanted to win a title to make his career complete.

"That was my big thing," he said. "I won in high school and I've been third in the outdoor meet the last couple of years. I wasn't worried about how far I went, I just wanted to be on top and put my (index) finger up."

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Southern’s McKinney leads four SWAC qualifiers for Div I Track Nationals
May 30, 2004
Southern University’s Michael McKinney won the high jump at the Mideast Regional meet in Baton Rouge with a best leap of 7’ 3 ¼” and automatically qualified for this year’s NCAA Division I Track and Field Championships.

Athletes competed at four regional locations with the top five individual finishers and top three relay teams from each of four regional meets moving on to the National Championships to be held June 9-12 in Austin, Texas.

SWAC performers joining McKinney are Michael Tinsley (Jackson State-400m hurdles), Marcus Harris (Texas Southern-high jump) and Tremedia Brice(Texas Southern-100m).

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SU

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I have more if you want it. :deadhorse :lmao: :lmao:

[Cap'n Cat]

Southern's Baseball RPI:
05: 189
04: 170
03: 65
02: 79
01: 88

Southern's Baseball Strength of Schedule:
04: 280
03: 266
02: 271
01: 253

Current SWAC Conference RPI:
31st out of 31 conference

Numbers don't lie Jaguar fan.


Sorry, Jaggy. The SWAC is a conf of individual performers, more than anything, hence the many (but declining number of) draft picks. They're good for what it really is - an HBCU DII league. When one of your football teams beats a Top Ten PWC I-AA, then we can talk. Until then, small-time.

Next topic......


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Sorry, Jaggy. The SWAC is a conf of individual performers, more than anything, hence the many (but declining number of) draft picks. They're good for what it really is - an HBCU DII league. When one of your football teams beats a Top Ten PWC I-AA, then we can talk. Until then, small-time.

Next topic......


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We are talking about other sports not football. That is a totally different conversation. :deadhorse

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We are talking about other sports not football. That is a totally different conversation. :deadhorse


Well, not so fast, jagtill. The original post talked about all sports. You brought up baseball. One thing I notice you do isseparate out Southern from the SWAC in threads. This is a thread about conference sports, not Southern sports. You changed it.

Overall, SWAC sports, all of them, are lame performers compared to their peers. You get down to an individual institution here and there that competes in, um, something, you might have something.

And you know it.

And, while we're here, noticed that my UNI, only have a so-so season, belongs to a pretty tough league, the Missouri Valley. Conference RPI = 7. Shocked to see the SWAC at #30 in today's numbers.

:)

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Wow, we found ourselves an ex-officio SWAC SID...

I complimented the track programs, they're pretty good for the most part. It's other sports. When you going to tell us up about the great Southern tennis team? Or the amazing Alabama A&M soccer squad?

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SWAC Rankings

Football:
13th out of 16 (Warren Nolan)

Basketball (M):
31st out of 32 (Warren Nolan)

Basketball (W):
25th out of 32 (Warren Nolan)

Baseball:
31st out of 32 (Warren Nolan)

Softball:
31st out of 31 (Warren Nolan)

Golf (M):
Can't find conference rankings, but the champ Jackson State is 176th in the Nation. (GolfStat)

Golf (W):
Can't find conference rankings, but the champ Jackson State is 162nd in the Nation. (GolfStat)

Soccer (M):
No team in the top 198. (Jones Soccer Ratings)

Soccer (W):
Champion Grambling ranked 281. (Jones Soccer Ratings)

Tennis (M):
No teams in Top 75. (College Tennis Online)

Tennis (W):
No teams in Top 75. (College Tennis Online)

I can't find anything for Track and Field and can only find a top-25 for Volleyball, which no SWAC team is in. But, as I said in the other thread, the numbers speak for themselves.

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I talked about Southern more because I know more about Southern me being an alumnist.

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Southern Tops Won-Loss Standings in Day One of NCAA Bowling Championship
April 8, 2004

HOUSTON, TX - Day one of the inaugural women’s bowling national championships at the Emerald Bowl in Houston featured two perfect games in a banner opening round of action for the inaugural NCAA championship for the sport. Eight teams faced each other in seven games of regular team bowling.

The Lady Jaguars of Southern University posted the best won-loss record of the opening day winning six of their seven matches with a total pinfall of 7264. Maryland-Eastern Shore's Lady Hawls were 1-6 in head-to-head matches with their only victory coming over the winless Lady Rams of Winston-Salem State.
The Lady Hawks knocked down 7061 pins while the Lady Rams finished with 5420 total pinfall.

Despite a 4-3 record, Nebraska led the first day's total pinfall with 7633. Southern ranked sixth, followed by UMES and WSSU.

In the opening game of the tournament, New Jersey City University junior Jennifer Viens (Old Bridge, NJ/Old Bridge) became the first bowler in NCAA history to roll a perfect 300 game in championship play, as the Division III Gothic Knights achieved a team score of 1177 against Winston- Salem State University—the second highest team score of the first day of the championships.

In the third game, Central Missouri State University freshman Christina Peak (Machesney Park, IL) notched the second 300 game of the championships, and it ironically occurred when the Jennies were facing NJCU. CMSU tallied an 1192 in their final game of the day, also against WSSU, for the highest team score of the first day.

Total pinfall from Thursday’s action will be combined with the pinfall from seven baker matches in session three of the championships on Friday morning to determine the seeding for the remainder of the tournament.

Session four, Friday afternoon, will open the double-elimination portion of the championships, when schools will square off in three rounds of baker games in a best 4-out-of-7 format. In baker games, the five bowlers on a team each will play two frames of a traditional 10-frame game.


DAY ONE HEAD-TO-HEAD GAME RESULTS
Thursday, April 8, 2004 Game 1: New Jersey City University def. Winston-Salem State University, 1177-781
Southern University def Maryland Eastern Shore, 1045-1002
Central Missouri State University def. Fairleigh Dickinson University, 1095-1086
Sacred Heart University def. University of Nebraska, 1124-1109
Game 2: Southern University (LA) def. New Jersey City University, 1036-943
Fairleigh Dickinson University def. University of Nebraska 1037-1014
Sacred Heart University def. Central Missouri State University, 1062-1023
Maryland Eastern Shore def. Winston-Salem State University, 1026-852
Game 3: Central Missouri State University def. New Jersey City University, 1160-1069
Southern University def. Fairleigh Dickinson University, 1064-1026
Sacred Heart University def. Winston-Salem State University, 1117-689
University of Nebraska def. Maryland Eastern Shore 1069-1054
Game 4: University of Nebraska def. New Jersey City University 1005-904
Central Missouri State University def. Maryland Eastern Shore, 1076-959
Fairleigh Dickinson University def. Winston-Salem State University, 1046-768
Southern University def. Sacred Heart University 1076-1067
Game 5: New Jersey City University def. Fairleigh Dickinson University, 1105-986
University of Nebraska def. Winston-Salem State University, 1165-840
Southern University def. Central Missouri State University, 1056-915
Sacred Heart University def. Maryland Eastern Shore, 1066-1027
Game 6: New Jersey City University vs. Maryland Eastern Shore, 1135-1024
Fairleigh Dickinson University def. Sacred Heart University, 1164-1056
Southern University def. Winston-Salem State University, 1019-763
Central Missouri State University def. University of Nebraska, 1131-1082
Game 7: New Jersey City University def. Sacred Heart University, 1106-1070
University of Nebraska def. Southern University, 1189-968
Central Missouri State University def. Winston-Salem State University, 1192-727
Fairleigh Dickinson University def. Maryland Eastern Shore, 1045-969

STANDINGS BY PINFALL RK SCHOOL Thursday
W-L Record Total Pinfall
1 University of Nebraska 4-3 7633
2 Central Missouri State University 5-2 7587
3 Sacred Heart University 4-3 7562
4 New Jersey City University 4-3 7439
5 Fairleigh Dickinson University 4-3 7390
6 Southern University 6-1 7264
7 Maryland Eastern Shore 1-6 7061
8 Winston-Salem State University 0-7 5420

STANDINGS BY WON/LOSS RECORD RK SCHOOL Thursday
W-L Record Total Pinfall
1 Southern University 6-1 7264
2 Central Missouri State University 5-2 7587
3 University of Nebraska 4-3 7633
4 Sacred Heart University 4-3 7562
5 New Jersey City University 4-3 7439
6 Fairleigh Dickinson University 4-3 7390
7 Maryland Eastern Shore 1-6 7061
8 Winston-Salem State University 0-7 5420

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NCAA BOWLING CHAMPIONSHIPS:
Southern Falls to Fairleigh Dickinson twice to miss Final Four
April 9, 2004

HOUSTON, TX -- Only four remain with the biggest prize in collegiate bowling on the line-the first-ever NCAA Women's Bowling National Championship. The one, two, four, and six seeds survived Friday's double-elimination round of the NCAA Tournament, as Central Missouri State University, the University of Nebraska, Fairleigh Dickinson University, and New Jersey City University, each made history by reaching the first-ever Final Four. In all, two Division I, one Division II, and one Division III school remain and will vie for the national championship on Saturday.

Central Missouri (77-25), the only remaining unbeaten team in the tournament, will have the easier remaining road to the national title. CMSU only needs to win once to become national champions, and will wait through two rounds of the loser's bracket to see who it will face in the national final. The survivor of the losers' bracket must defeat the Jennies twice for the crown.

NJCU, the No. 6 seed (63-36-1) will face Northern New Jersey archrival Fairleigh Dickinson University (79-22), the No. 4 seed, in Game 12 of the tournament tomorrow at 11:30 am in the Final Four. The winner of that best 4-out-of-7 series will face second-seeded the University of Nebraska (63-16) 25 minutes following the completion of the series in Game 13; the loser will be eliminated. The winner of Game 13 will face CMSU with a shot at the national championship on the line. Again, the loser of that series will be eliminated.

CMSU defeated No. 8 seeded Winston-Salem State University (59-17) in the first round, 4-1, and then beat FDU in the second round, 4-3. Nebraska upended #7 Maryland Eastern Shore (79-45) in the opening round, 4-1, before the Cornhuskers outlasted Sacred Heart University (70-42), the third seed, 4-2.

In a classic winner's bracket showdown, CMSU survived Nebraska, 4-3, and won the seventh and deciding game by a single pin. 193-192. CMSU led the series 2-0 before UNL rebounded to even the series at 2-2. The Jennies won the fifth game, 184-173, before the Huskers forced the seventh game with a dominating 246-150 victory.

Perhaps the most intriguing story of this NCAA Championship has been Division III's New Jersey City University, who will play in the Final Four, after becoming the first women's team in the University's history to ever qualify for an NCAA Tournament. The Gothic Knights had perhaps the hardest route to the final day. Facing elimination after losing to Sacred Heart University in a 4-0 sweep in the first round, the Gothic Knights avoided elimination in the second round by sweeping the UMES, 4-0 to stay alive, then exacted revenge by eliminating SHU in the third round, 4-1.

"I'm a little numb," said NJCU Head Coach Frank Parisi. "It's an emotionally draining experience. I'm obviously extremely excited about what this team has achieved today and very proud of them, especially after getting swept in some very close games to Sacred Heart [in the first round]. They could have packed it in after a real devastating loss, but they regrouped and took care of business against Maryland Eastern Shore."

"[Assistant Coach] Rusty Thomsen talked to them right before the [third round] match with Sacred Heart and said you don't get a second chance often in life, and that they needed to take advantage of it. They did. They took care of business again against Sacred Heart. It's great to be one of the final four teams remaining, and the only Division III school. And now we have a chance to move on and challenge for the national championship."

FDU gives the state of New Jersey two of the four in the national semifinals. The Knights, seeded fourth, survived No. 5 Southern University (88-33) in the first round, 4-3, lost to CMSU in the second round, and also stayed alive by defeated Southern for a second time, 4-1, thus eliminating the Jaguars.

No. 7 UMES lost to Nebraska in the first round before being eliminated by NJCU, 4-0. WSSU was eliminated in the second round by Southern, 4-0.

The day began at 9am with the second half of the qualifying round. The total pinfall from 21 baker games combined with the pinfall from Thursday's seven matches of regular team bowling determined the seeding for the double-elimination, best 4-out-of-7 series, which began at 2pm.

ESPN2 will televise the championship on a one-day tape delay on Easter Sunday, April 11 from 1-2:30 pm.

2004 NCAA WOMEN'S BOWLING NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT
DOUBLE-ELIMINATION

ROUND 1:
#1 Central Missouri State University def. #8 Winston-Salem State University, 4-1
#4 Fairleigh Dickinson University def. #5 Southern University, 4-3
#3 Sacred Heart University def. #6 New Jersey City University, 4-0
#2 University of Nebraska def. #7 Maryland Eastern Shore, 4-1

ROUND 2:
Winner's Bracket
#1 Central Missouri State University def. #4 Fairleigh Dickinson University, 4-3
#2 University of Nebraska def. #3 Sacred Heart University, 4-2

Loser's Bracket
#5 Southern University def. #8 Winston-Salem State University, 4-0
Winston-Salem State University ELIMINATED
##6 New Jersey City University def. #7 Maryland Eastern Shore, 4-0
Maryland Eastern Shore ELIMINATED

ROUND 2:
Winner's Bracket
#1 Central Missouri State University def. #2 University of Nebraska, 4-3

Loser's Bracket
#6 New Jersey City University def. #3 Sacred Heart University, 4-1
Sacred Heart University ELIMINATED
#4 Fairleigh Dickinson University def. #5 Southern University, 4-1
Southern University ELIMINATED

2004 NCAA Women's Bowling Team Standings (After Day 2) Baker Baker Baker Baker Baker Baker Baker
Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5 Game 6 Game 7 G 1-3 G 4-6 G 7-9 G 10-12 G 13-15 G 16-18 G 19-21 TOTAL
1 Central Missouri State University Jennies 1095 1023 1160 1076 915 1131 1192 573 647 621 690 560 716 566 11965
2 University of Nebraska Huskers 1109 1014 1069 1005 1165 1082 1189 628 565 607 632 649 618 597 11929
3 Sacred Heart University Pioneers 1124 1062 1117 1067 1066 1056 1070 534 524 531 531 606 597 521 11406
4 Fairleigh Dickinson University Knights 1086 1037 1026 1046 986 1164 1045 519 554 591 546 584 567 628 11379
5 Southern University Jaguars 1045 1036 1064 1076 1056 1019 968 507 618 531 570 666 549 620 11325
6 New Jersey City Gothic Knights 1177 943 1069 904 1105 1135 1106 608 627 516 491 559 554 512 11306
7 University of Maryland-Eastern Shore 1002 1026 1054 959 1027 1024 969 525 510 595 641 592 590 557 11071
8 Winston Salem State Lady Rams 781 852 689 768 840 763 727 434 443 595 470 493 492 520 8867

STANDINGS BY PINFALL

Rank Name School Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5 Game 6 Game 7 Total Ave. Gms
1 Eryn Cully NJCU 236 225 232 207 234 237 279 1650 235.71 7
2 Shannon Pluhowsky Nebraska 267 229 256 213 216 236 217 1634 233.43 7
3 Katie Atkins SHU 256 233 258 223 201 215 233 1619 231.29 7
4 Sarah Circle Southern 221 217 226 236 230 279 201 1610 230 7
5 Tina Peak CMSU 216 207 300 206 215 203 258 1605 229.29 7
6 Lisa Friscioni FDU 238 216 237 214 171 279 233 1588 226.86 7
7 Jen Viens NJCU 300 173 243 183 236 255 196 1586 226.57 7
8 Amber Gazverde CMSV 187 214 237 231 215 233 246 1563 223.29 7
9 Adrienne Miller Nebraska 202 185 212 245 216 221 264 1545 220.71 7
10 Maryetta Lewis UMES 223 207 221 191 254 212 224 1532 218.86 7
11 Carolyn Rich SHU 194 210 213 234 253 191 236 1531 218.71 7
12 Elysia Current FDU 235 225 211 237 182 258 182 1530 218.57 7
13 Kristina Szalay FDU 193 212 192 219 201 268 229 1514 216.29 7
14 Crystal Alexander Southern 236 203 219 221 204 214 211 1508 215.43 7
15 Erin Gore SHU 248 193 246 238 183 210 190 1508 215.43 7
Alecia Hefter CMSU 238 182 215 236 145 259 218 1493 213.29 7
17 Reynika Tillery Southern 203 189 217 226 205 224 223 1487 212.43 7
18 Christina Onderdonk SHU 236 233 200 178 205 207 224 1483 211.86 7
19 Christine Zsilavetz NJCU 258 203 138 160 236 215 245 1455 207.86 7
20 Amanda Burgoye Nebraska 215 218 211 161 211 203 226 1445 206.43 7
21 Angela Swift CMSU 219 216 224 192 182 184 203 1420 202.86 7
22 Erica Bixby FDU 235 174 187 193 209 220 195 1413 201.86 7
23 Megan Raymond UMES 211 202 194 253 177 215 152 1404 200.57 7
24 Kathleen Weissman NJCU 171 180 258 173 203 205 207 1397 199.57 7
25 Erin Fagan UMES 220 191 212 143 200 215 211 1392 198.86 7
26 Leigh Buickerood Southern 212 203 199 211 246 160 158 1389 198.43 7
27 Victoria Gay UMES 179 223 234 170 186 188 206 1386 198 7
28 Lisa Melchior NJCU 212 162 198 181 196 223 179 1351 193 7
29 Sandra Maresca UMES 169 203 193 202 210 194 176 1347 192.43 7
30 LaToya Deschamps WSSU 159 174 139 161 202 166 168 1169 167 7
31 Amy Bohleber FDU 185 210 199 183 223 139 0 1139 189.83 6
32 LeAndrea Suggs WSSU 124 188 146 166 181 156 175 1136 162.29 7
33 Shannon Davis WSSU 159 190 119 183 167 162 124 1104 157.71 7
34 Karla Engh Nebraska 0 0 189 215 265 198 220 1087 217.4 5
35 Jamie Martin Nebraska 168 170 0 0 257 224 262 1081 216.2 5
36 Amber Lester CMSU 235 204 184 211 158 0 0 992 198.4 5
37 Janell Lewis WSSU 143 160 116 149 141 143 128 980 140 7
38 Lyndsey Stewart Southern 173 224 203 182 0 0 175 957 191.4 5
39 LaShonda Horton WSSU 196 140 169 109 149 136 0 899 149.83 6
40 Jen Schultz Nebraska 257 212 201 171 0 0 0 841 210.25 4
41 Nicole Peloquin SHU 190 193 200 238 0 0 0 821 205.25 4
42 Diane Raimann SHU 0 0 0 0 224 233 187 644 214.67 3
43 Sandra Dekos CMSU 0 0 0 0 0 247 267 514 257 2
44 Erin B Williams Southern 0 0 0 0 171 142 0 313 156.5 2
45 Jocelyn Davis FDU 0 0 0 0 0 0 206 206 206 1
46 Alex Soldano SHU 0 0 0 194 0 0 0 194 194 1
47 Ebony Douglas WSSU 0 0 0

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Southern Lady Jaguars Finish Fifth in IBC Sectionals; Three Lady Jags Nominated for All-American
March 27, 2003

BATON ROUGE, LA * Southern University’s Women’s Bowling Team finished fifth in the IBC Bowling Sectional held in Las Vegas, NV. The Lady Jags finished the competition with 11032 pins (172.38 avg) in 64 Baker games. SU finished 777 pins behind West Sectional winner, and the #2 ranked team in the nation, West Texas AM.

The IBC Sectionals were held March 22-23, 2003 in Downingtown (PA), Louisville (KY), St. Louis (MO) and Las Vegas (NV). The top four men's and women's teams in each section have advanced to the 2003 Intercollegiate Bowling Championships to be held in Tulsa, Oklahoma on April 23-26.

“We did very well, the team gave it there best, but we didn't quiet do the job. The lane conditions were tough, but I am proud of the way our ladies competed”, says Karen Couvillion, SU Bowling coach.

The Lady Jaguars came into the nationals ranked #24 in the nation in Division I Women’s Bowling.

Also three Southern Bowlers have been nominated for All - American honors. They are: Junior - Leigh Buickerood; Junior - Reynika Tillery; Freshman - Erin Williams.

WEST SECTIONAL SCORES
1. West Texas AM University 2891 3121 2905 2892 11809 64 184.52 ---
2. Central Missouri St. Univ. 2933 2949 2941 2864 11687 64 182.61 -122
3. Cal. State Univ. - Fresno 2791 3068 2759 3053 11671 64 182.36 -138
4. Arizona State University 2872 2847 2955 2912 11586 64 181.03 -223
5. Southern University 2605 2747 2901 2779 11032 64 172.38 -777
6. Utah /University of 2680 2494 2723 2653 10550 64 164.84 -1259
7. Washington State University 2604 2737 2580 2518 10439 64 163.11 -1370
8. Grambling State University 2389 2767 2843 2428 10427 64 162.92 -1382
9. Cal./Univ. of - Davis 2353 2365 2461 2470 9649 64 150.77 -2160
10. Mesa Community College 2329 2165 2464 2177 9135 64 142.73 -2674

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[SUjagTILLiDIE]

Please name me 1 sport where any of you guys conferences had 2 teams finish in the top 10 in the NCAA championships.
Southern Lady Jaguars Finish Fifth in IBC Sectionals; Three Lady Jags Nominated for All-American
March 27, 2003

BATON ROUGE, LA * Southern University’s Women’s Bowling Team finished fifth in the IBC Bowling Sectional held in Las Vegas, NV. The Lady Jags finished the competition with 11032 pins (172.38 avg) in 64 Baker games. SU finished 777 pins behind West Sectional winner, and the #2 ranked team in the nation, West Texas AM.

The IBC Sectionals were held March 22-23, 2003 in Downingtown (PA), Louisville (KY), St. Louis (MO) and Las Vegas (NV). The top four men's and women's teams in each section have advanced to the 2003 Intercollegiate Bowling Championships to be held in Tulsa, Oklahoma on April 23-26.

“We did very well, the team gave it there best, but we didn't quiet do the job. The lane conditions were tough, but I am proud of the way our ladies competed”, says Karen Couvillion, SU Bowling coach.

The Lady Jaguars came into the nationals ranked #24 in the nation in Division I Women’s Bowling.

Also three Southern Bowlers have been nominated for All - American honors. They are: Junior - Leigh Buickerood; Junior - Reynika Tillery; Freshman - Erin Williams.

WEST SECTIONAL SCORES
1. West Texas AM University 2891 3121 2905 2892 11809 64 184.52 ---
2. Central Missouri St. Univ. 2933 2949 2941 2864 11687 64 182.61 -122
3. Cal. State Univ. - Fresno 2791 3068 2759 3053 11671 64 182.36 -138
4. Arizona State University 2872 2847 2955 2912 11586 64 181.03 -223
5. Southern University 2605 2747 2901 2779 11032 64 172.38 -777
6. Utah /University of 2680 2494 2723 2653 10550 64 164.84 -1259
7. Washington State University 2604 2737 2580 2518 10439 64 163.11 -1370
8. Grambling State University 2389 2767 2843 2428 10427 64 162.92 -1382
9. Cal./Univ. of - Davis 2353 2365 2461 2470 9649 64 150.77 -2160
10. Mesa Community College 2329 2165 2464 2177 9135 64 142.73 -2674

[TexasTerror]

No, please no! Don't bust out NCAA bowling on us! How many teams have bowling in this country? Not too many at this point, though I know it's looking at being a growing sport in this country as far as NCAA goes.

Still waiting for something legit in terms of an argument for the dead-last SWAC...

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

No, please no! Don't bust out NCAA bowling on us! How many teams have bowling in this country? Not too many at this point, though I know it's looking at being a growing sport in this country as far as NCAA goes.

Still waiting for something legit in terms of an argument for the dead-last SWAC...
I have listed several sports where the swac has finished high in the NCAA's. Please do the same for your conference school. I have way more trust that. This is only a small portion.

[TexasTerror]

Some SWAC news for our favorite SID from Zem (McNeese)...if Southern overpays and still fails, why are they having such a high turnover?

Southern University is looking for their fourth basketball coach in six years with the firing of Michael Grant. Grant was fired after only two years on the job. His record was 26-31 in two years, but record had very little to do with the firing. Grant interviewed for the Youngstown State job last month and this seemed to really rattle some of the fans and board members. You do have to wonder what the intentions of a new coach is when he is making promises to Youngstown State right in the middle of recruiting season. Then again, I wonder what kind of search committee YSU would have if they hired a guy with a 26-31 record over the last two years, especially with the number of applicants they received. Grant is giving up a salary that is higher than the football coaches at SLU, McNeese, Northwestern State, and Nicholls State make. Not only does Grant make over $76,000 for his salary, he receives $1,000 a month towards housing expenses and a car. There should be tons of major college assistants lining up to apply for that job.

[ccujacket]

There are 28 D-I schools that sponsor Women's Bowling. Only the SWAC and MEAC have full participation. Half of those teams listed in that tournament aren't even DI. One's a freaking community college.

The fact of the matter is, as I posted, the SWAC is at or near the bottom in every sport.

Of course, this makes the fact that they're fans turn out in droves all that much more impressive.

[Cap'n Cat]

:deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse


I got more :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse

Beating the dead horse, indeed.

In reading this thread, you got nothing, jagtill. No offense, though. It's been proven over and over in jacket's posts that the SWAC occupies the cellar in virtually everything they do. Southern may be a moderately shiny star, but not in much.

Treated as a whole, the SWAC is, at all levels and in every conceivable way, a DII conference.

With love,

CC

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

Some SWAC news for our favorite SID from Zem (McNeese)...if Southern overpays and still fails, why are they having such a high turnover?

Southern University is looking for their fourth basketball coach in six years with the firing of Michael Grant. Grant was fired after only two years on the job. His record was 26-31 in two years, but record had very little to do with the firing. Grant interviewed for the Youngstown State job last month and this seemed to really rattle some of the fans and board members. You do have to wonder what the intentions of a new coach is when he is making promises to Youngstown State right in the middle of recruiting season. Then again, I wonder what kind of search committee YSU would have if they hired a guy with a 26-31 record over the last two years, especially with the number of applicants they received. Grant is giving up a salary that is higher than the football coaches at SLU, McNeese, Northwestern State, and Nicholls State make. Not only does Grant make over $76,000 for his salary, he receives $1,000 a month towards housing expenses and a car. There should be tons of major college assistants lining up to apply for that job.
First of all the fans did not like or support Micheal Grant. He blamed his players in the media for the teams late season collapse. We had no problem with him applying for a job but when you say that you have 2 recruits ready to come with you there is a problem. He was a employee of Southern and recruiting with Southern's money. He wanted to take the job because he is from Ohio.

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

There are 28 D-I schools that sponsor Women's Bowling. Only the SWAC and MEAC have full participation. Half of those teams listed in that tournament aren't even DI. One's a freaking community college.

The fact of the matter is, as I posted, the SWAC is at or near the bottom in every sport.

Of course, this makes the fact that they're fans turn out in droves all that much more impressive.
I listed more than bowling :) . Stop making excusses

[TexasTerror]

I listed more than bowling :) . Stop making excusses

Well, you had a post above that listed the SWAC placement in all the major sports and the Olympic sports.

So, is football being ranked 13th out of 16 a good thing, especially when there's non-scholarship leagues included in that 16? 31st out of 32 in mens' basketball is pretty bad while 25th is respectable. 31st out of 32 in baseball. There's someone worse than the SWAC?!? Dead last in softball. No surprise. Top golf teams are lower than than 160th. Can't be that great a conference and womens' soccer ranked 281st, that being the top team. Nothing special in tennis either, I suspect especially when a middle of the pack in the SLC team rolls all SWAC foes 7-0.

The SWAC needs work across the board. One good school and one good win from time to time across the board is not validability. You can sell out stadiums for Classics left and right, but your conference is still far from mediocre across the board.

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx
Well, you had a post above that listed the SWAC placement in all the major sports and the Olympic sports.

So, is football being ranked 13th out of 16 a good thing, especially when there's non-scholarship leagues included in that 16? 31st out of 32 in mens' basketball is pretty bad while 25th is respectable. 31st out of 32 in baseball. There's someone worse than the SWAC?!? Dead last in softball. No surprise. Top golf teams are lower than than 160th. Can't be that great a conference and womens' soccer ranked 281st, that being the top team. Nothing special in tennis either, I suspect especially when a middle of the pack in the SLC team rolls all SWAC foes 7-0.

The SWAC needs work across the board. One good school and one good win from time to time across the board is not validability. You can sell out stadiums for Classics left and right, but your conference is still far from mediocre across the board.
You must realize until recently we had a team in our conference that did not offer scholarships in sports. That team brought our conference ratings down. Now back to the issue. Name me 1 team from your conference that has won games in the baseball regionals, won 2 games in the softball regionals, track athlete(s) that has finished 1st in an event in the NCAA meet, finished in the top 5 in bowling , won a major college award equivalent to the heisman trophy, recruited player(s) considered the best coming out from highschool. Like I thought you can't. :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse

[TexasTerror]

Name me 1 team from your conference that has won games in the baseball regionals

In 2003, the SLC sent TWO teams to the NCAA regionals. Lamar beat Texas once and Arkansas twice that year. They lost to Texas twice to knock them out. In 2002, Lamar went 1-2 and and in 2001, UTA went 1-2. In 2000, the SLC sent THREE teams.

I can tell you SHSU upset the number two ranked team in the nation, the Miami Hurricanes, 5-4, in Austin in their most recent appearance, 1996.


won 2 games in the softball regionals

In 2003, the SLC had two teams in the NCAA tournament. One of them, SWT, defeated Arizona State, Northwestern and Hawaii. They lost to the Longhorns of Texas twice, knocking them out. UTA that same year beat Florida St and Florida in Gainesville, before losing two straight. In 2001, SWT went 2-2 in the NCAAs. SLC has a history of wins in the NCAA softball tournament. SHSU won the 1993 National Softball Invitational (what used to be like an NIT for softball)



track athlete(s) that has finished 1st in an event in the NCAA meet

SLC had a male participant win the hammer throw in 1999 from ULM among 15 male winners/relays in the NCAAs since 1974. Also, Olympian Charles Austin is an SLC grad. Three women have won NCAA championships, including back-to-back 800m titles in the mid 1990s. These are all outdoor and should be sufficient for you.


finished in the top 5 in bowling

We have no bowling, but we do have TAMU-CC ranked top 25 in mens' tennis and we have had some successful golf teams over the years, something the SWAC has not.


won a major college award equivalent to the heisman trophy, recruited player(s) considered the best coming out from highschool. Like I thought you can't.

No Payton Awards (two for SWAC). One Buchanan Award (none for SWAC). Two Robinson Awards (none for SWAC). And how can you say someone is the best coming out of HS? There's no official deal that measures that, just people's opinion. Athletes are raw coming out of high school, you never know...

[ccujacket]

Tell me I'm wrong...

You're wrong. As someone who is in love with the GPI I'm suprised you don't look at the facts, the hard numbers. Except, then again, you are ralph and you try not to offend anyone.

SUjag, I've already listed how the SWAC is the doormat in nearly every sport and you have no rebuttal but to list a small handful of impressive things the SWAC has aka the Bowling team that beats up on East-Western Nowhere Community College. There is no legitimate argument that can possibly be made that would make the SWAC look like even a decent conference.

As far as our athletic accomplishments, lets consult the old Directors Cup, which measures which athletic programs are the best, and I'll point out that we were 103rd for all of DI with 156 points while y'all were 154th with 87 points.

[Cap'n Cat]

You're wrong.

The SWAC is a cute little conference, but they can't compete in much. As we deride the MAC and SunBelt in I-A football, for example, so we deride the SWAC.

JagTILL,
Jacket's pointed out the many errors of your ways. Gotta face reality. Being a fan is good, but blind allegiance is not.

We still love you, though. Nothing personal.

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

In 2003, the SLC sent TWO teams to the NCAA regionals. Lamar beat Texas once and Arkansas twice that year. They lost to Texas twice to knock them out. In 2002, Lamar went 1-2 and and in 2001, UTA went 1-2. In 2000, the SLC sent THREE teams.

I can tell you SHSU upset the number two ranked team in the nation, the Miami Hurricanes, 5-4, in Austin in their most recent appearance, 1996.



In 2003, the SLC had two teams in the NCAA tournament. One of them, SWT, defeated Arizona State, Northwestern and Hawaii. They lost to the Longhorns of Texas twice, knocking them out. UTA that same year beat Florida St and Florida in Gainesville, before losing two straight. In 2001, SWT went 2-2 in the NCAAs. SLC has a history of wins in the NCAA softball tournament. SHSU won the 1993 National Softball Invitational (what used to be like an NIT for softball)




SLC had a male participant win the hammer throw in 1999 from ULM among 15 male winners/relays in the NCAAs since 1974. Also, Olympian Charles Austin is an SLC grad. Three women have won NCAA championships, including back-to-back 800m titles in the mid 1990s. These are all outdoor and should be sufficient for you.



We have no bowling, but we do have TAMU-CC ranked top 25 in mens' tennis and we have had some successful golf teams over the years, something the SWAC has not.



No Payton Awards (two for SWAC). One Buchanan Award (none for SWAC). Two Robinson Awards (none for SWAC). And how can you say someone is the best coming out of HS? There's no official deal that measures that, just people's opinion. Athletes are raw coming out of high school, you never know...
Im no historian and I don't know all of the swac greats but those few accomplishment can't come close to the swac's. SU has had several olympians and world record holders. Willie Davenport and Rodney Milborn are the guys that I know. I also know there were several years where Southern's relay teams owned world records. Southern has players in the MLB baseball hall of fame(LOU BROCK),football of fame(Mel Blount) NBA hall of fame(Bob Love). Let me do some research and I will get back with you.

[Cap'n Cat]

Im no historian and I don't know all of the swac greats but those few accomplishment can't come close to the swac's. SU has had several olympians and world record holders. Willie Davenport and Rodney Milborn are the guys that I know. I also know there were several years where Southern's relay teams owned world records. Southern has players in the MLB baseball hall of fame(LOU BROCK),football of fame(Mel Blount) NBA hall of fame(Bob Love). Let me do some research and I will get back with you.

Again, no offense, JAGTILL, but you're highlighting what we already know about the SWAC - it's a great conference for individual performers. However, (most of) the teams (most often) can't seem to compete outside the league. Also, the names you mention are rather "old school".

Hey, I like the SWAC. Me and D1B are definitely going to hit a football game this year between two SWACrs.

:)

[Cap'n Cat]

How about this for validity?

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-06581sy0apr29,0,5489737.story?coll=dp-sports-local

Shelly,
That is a good article, no kidding. I am instantly a Hampton sailing fan!

:)

But, the hate thing. Come on. We have our battles on here, but a VAST majority of people who frequent AGS don't carry this "hate". Interesting, too, is how the SWACr's seem to be the only ones bringing up such a thing. It's a bad knee-jerk that a lot of SWAC supporters do and it's no good anymore.

I support the SWAC and I love college athletics and athletes - black, white yellow, red, etc. Some just don't see it as that competitive outside the conference's immediate sphere of influence. There exists a definite SWAC culture, though, that SWAC fans seem to be very proud of and that's a great thing.

It would be great to have SWAC teams in the I-AA playoffs, but, talk about beating a dead horse!

:) :) :) :) :) :) :)

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

How about this for validity?

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-06581sy0apr29,0,5489737.story?coll=dp-sports-local
Great story. I am instantly a Hampton Sailing fan. We HBCU's have so much to be proud of. I guess some of you guys will never understand the uphill battle we face.

[TexasTerror]

We HBCU's have so much to be proud of. I guess some of you guys will never understand the uphill battle we face.

What do you percieve as the biggest issues in the uphill battle you speak of?

[polsongrizz]

What do you percieve as the biggest issues in the uphill battle you speak of?
I can't speak for sugjag, but I would take it to mean respect. But like I said on another thread, until the SWAC and the Ivy's actually commit to be in the real IAA it doesn't matter what they do. Neither will get any respect.

[TexasTerror]

I can't speak for sugjag, but I would take it to mean respect. But like I said on another thread, until the SWAC and the Ivy's actually commit to be in the real IAA it doesn't matter what they do. Neither will get any respect.

I agree on that one. They can talk all the smack they want about good programs, but they need to win some OOC games against major teams and they also have got to take part in the playoffs like the other conferences.

[Cap'n Cat]

Howzabout we end this thread with a little bit o' the "livin' in perfect harmony" thing?

http://stargate.eik.bme.hu/foto/szakacst16/alex04.jpg

Take it away, Stevie and Sir Paul!!!

[Cap'n Cat]

Well then maybe you should have read the sentence and the quote above it. "They" was in reference to your saying "I wonder where mikebigg and [etc.] are." I then said "They (mikebigg, etc.) might not be here, but I am." Reading is fundamnetal, you know.

So is spelling.

http://www.painetworks.com/photos/ec/ec0931.JPG


Any chance, BTW, of checkin' the angry black man shat at the door?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[Cap'n Cat]

Any chance of checking the angry white man shat at the door?

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:


Better job on the spelling! You get a gold star!!!

Profound comeback, too! Really put some thought into it, I see.

:D :eek:



Just worryin' about your blood pressure - you've demonstrated a proclivity for getting a little paranoid when backed into a corner. Think happy thoughts!

http://www.scsucheerleading.com/2002_winning_quad.jpg




:)

[GAD]

May 3, 2005
Southern 9
#8 LSU 4

:) :D :nod:

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

May 3, 2005
Southern 9
#8 LSU 4

:) :D :nod:
enuff said. :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse


Whats the excuse now. :D :D :D :D :D

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

Did LSU have an excuse?
Im talking to Cap'n Cat BTW how many times do I have to :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse


:D :D :D

[ccujacket]

Hmm, I wonder if your RPI might be able to crack the top 180 now??? ;)

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

Hmm, I wonder if your RPI might be able to crack the top 180 now??? ;)
Who cares about ratings. I more concerned about results on the field. U of H-6 Texas Southern -5 tonight. Tsu gave up 6 in the bottom of the 6th in a 7 inning game. :mad:
last week Baylor-4 Prairie View-3 Watch out . Southern has brought the level of Swac baseball Up.

[ccujacket]

I just checked your baseball schedule.

This win over LSU is balanced out by the fact that Southern lost to Loyola (LA) a NAIA schoool. :eek:

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

I just checked your baseball schedule.

This win over LSU is balanced out by the fact that Southern lost to Loyola (LA) a NAIA schoool. :eek:
That game help us get better. :confused: The team was messing around until the late innings. You should always respect your opponent and for some reason they didn't.

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

I just checked your baseball schedule.

This win over LSU is balanced out by the fact that Southern lost to Loyola (LA) a NAIA schoool. :eek:BTW what school are you representing and could you post your schools record in football, Womens and mens basketball, baseball, and softball and also some of their accomplishments.

[BgJag]

BTW what school are you representing

Coastal Carlina U from the Big South Conference.

[The Gadfly]

SWAC Rankings

Football:
13th out of 16 (Warren Nolan)

Basketball (M):
31st out of 32 (Warren Nolan)

Basketball (W):
25th out of 32 (Warren Nolan)

Baseball:
31st out of 32 (Warren Nolan)

Softball:
31st out of 31 (Warren Nolan)

Golf (M):
Can't find conference rankings, but the champ Jackson State is 176th in the Nation. (GolfStat)

Golf (W):
Can't find conference rankings, but the champ Jackson State is 162nd in the Nation. (GolfStat)

Soccer (M):
No team in the top 198. (Jones Soccer Ratings)

Soccer (W):
Champion Grambling ranked 281. (Jones Soccer Ratings)

Tennis (M):
No teams in Top 75. (College Tennis Online)

Tennis (W):
No teams in Top 75. (College Tennis Online)

I can't find anything for Track and Field and can only find a top-25 for Volleyball, which no SWAC team is in. But, as I said in the other thread, the numbers speak for themselves.

I just wanted to post this before Jacket gives the run down on what we've done. I love facts.

[ccujacket]

This discussion was about the SWAC not comparing Coastal and Southern, but since you asked:

Football
We won the Big South in our second year of playing football. While the Big South is a very bad football conference it's still ranked one better than the SWAC according to Warren Nolan. Both the Sports Network and Coaches Poll put us at #24. Even the beloved GPI ranks us ahead of Southern.

Basketball
We were awful, both mens and womens. We have a tiny arena and had a terrible Men's coach last year. The Big South was a better conference in both sports than the SWAC last year considering a SWAC team was the 16th seed that played in the play-in game and lost to a Detroit team with a losing record and Liberty made the Sweet Sixteen in women's basketball.

Baseball
We're ranked #25 in the NBCWA top-35 and have been recieving votes or ranked in the other polls throughout the season. We're ranked #26 in Boyd's Pseudo-RPI and projected to get a #2 seed in the Regionals by SEBaseball.com. The Big South is the 13th best conference in RPI and the SWAC is second to last at 30th.

Southern on the other hand is unranked in the polls and #205 in the RPI.

Softball
The Lady Chant's Softball team is ranked #100 in the nation in RPI whereas the Lady Jags are ranked #200. The Big South is 14th in Softball and the SWAC is dead last at 31st.

Men's Golf
Our team is heading to the Regionals and is rated #37 in the nation. Southern isn't and is #275 in the nation.

Women's Golf
Our team is heading to the Regionals and is rated #54 in the nation.

Men's Soccer
Our team is lost to Duke in the opening round of the Tournament and finished the season rated #42. This was very dissapointing considering we finished in the top-10 the year before.

Women's Soccer
Not very good compared to their male counterparts. They finished up the year ranked #249 and going 7-11. Of course, it was still better than Southern who finished #302 and went 4-12-1


We should win the Sasser Cup again, which is given to the best all around Athletic Program in the Big South.

So to summarize we are ranked higher than Southern in nearly every sport. Basketball (Men's and Women's) being the exception.

[The Gadfly]

So to summarize we are ranked higher than Southern in nearly every sport. Basketball (Men's and Women's) being the exception.

That should soon change with UTenn's old coach Buzz Peterson coming to take the helm of CCU's mens basketball head coaching spot next season.

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

This discussion was about the SWAC not comparing Coastal and Southern, but since you asked:

Football
We won the Big South in our second year of playing football. While the Big South is a very bad football conference it's still ranked one better than the SWAC according to Warren Nolan. Both the Sports Network and Coaches Poll put us at #24. Even the beloved GPI ranks us ahead of Southern.

Basketball
We were awful, both mens and womens. We have a tiny arena and had a terrible Men's coach last year. The Big South was a better conference in both sports than the SWAC last year considering a SWAC team was the 16th seed that played in the play-in game and lost to a Detroit team with a losing record and Liberty made the Sweet Sixteen in women's basketball.

Baseball
We're ranked #25 in the NBCWA top-35 and have been recieving votes or ranked in the other polls throughout the season. We're ranked #26 in Boyd's Pseudo-RPI and projected to get a #2 seed in the Regionals by SEBaseball.com. The Big South is the 13th best conference in RPI and the SWAC is second to last at 30th.

Southern on the other hand is unranked in the polls and #205 in the RPI.

Softball
The Lady Chant's Softball team is ranked #100 in the nation in RPI whereas the Lady Jags are ranked #200. The Big South is 14th in Softball and the SWAC is dead last at 31st.

Men's Golf
Our team is heading to the Regionals and is rated #37 in the nation. Southern isn't and is #275 in the nation.

Women's Golf
Our team is heading to the Regionals and is rated #54 in the nation.

Men's Soccer
Our team is lost to Duke in the opening round of the Tournament and finished the season rated #42. This was very dissapointing considering we finished in the top-10 the year before.

Women's Soccer
Not very good compared to their male counterparts. They finished up the year ranked #249 and going 7-11. Of course, it was still better than Southern who finished #302 and went 4-12-1


We should win the Sasser Cup again, which is given to the best all around Athletic Program in the Big South.

So to summarize we are ranked higher than Southern in nearly every sport. Basketball (Men's and Women's) being the exception.
Congrats on your accomplishments.But one thing you fail to realize no matter how good one of our teams are some people will never give us the proper rating. Our 2003 baseball team is an example. That team finished like 47-6 had the highest winning percentage in the country, highest team batting average in the country, led the nation in runs scored, had the nations top player, and every position player on that team was drafted but the highest ranking was like 26.
Either Last season or the year before Sports Ill. came out with a list of the top 200 athletic departments in the country. I know Southern was ranked like 129 where was your school on that list. If im not mistaken there were only a handfull of 1-aa schools ranked above SU.

[ccujacket]

Congrats on your accomplishments.But one thing you fail to realize no matter how good one of our teams are some people will never give us the proper rating. Our 2003 baseball team is an example. That team finished like 47-6 had the highest winning percentage in the country, highest team batting average in the country, led the nation in runs scored, had the nations top player, and every position player on that team was drafted but the highest ranking was like 26.

I looked over the schedule and it's easy to understand why that team wasn't highly ranked. That team was 31-1 in the SWAC but only 15-6 out of conference. Couple that with the fact that four of the wins were against a JUCO team from Chicago and an NAIA team from New Orleans. You simply cannot schedule like that and expect the rankings to be in your favor.

Southern had one quality win in baseball that year. That was their win over Southern Mississippi in the Regionals. Unfortunately for Southern they followed up that big win by getting spanked in the next two games by Baylor (10-3) and Southern Miss (18-1 :eek: ).



Either Last season or the year before Sports Ill. came out with a list of the top 200 athletic departments in the country. I know Southern was ranked like 129 where was your school on that list. If im not mistaken there were only a handfull of 1-aa schools ranked above SU.

I'm sure ESPN took your fan support into account and the fact that you have a much bigger name and way more tradition than most other I-AA's including us.

I'm not sure how Southern could be considered to have a better athletic program than ours when the Directors Cup standings clearly showed otherwise. Like I've said before I'll go with hard numbers and facts as opposed to anecdotes and opinion.

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

I looked over the schedule and it's easy to understand why that team wasn't highly ranked. That team was 31-1 in the SWAC but only 15-6 out of conference. Couple that with the fact that four of the wins were against a JUCO team from Chicago and an NAIA team from New Orleans. You simply cannot schedule like that and expect the rankings to be in your favor.

Southern had one quality win in baseball that year. That was their win over Southern Mississippi in the Regionals. Unfortunately for Southern they followed up that big win by getting spanked in the next two games by Baylor (10-3) and Southern Miss (18-1 :eek: ).




I'm sure ESPN took your fan support into account and the fact that you have a much bigger name and way more tradition than most other I-AA's including us.

I'm not sure how Southern could be considered to have a better athletic program than ours when the Directors Cup standings clearly showed otherwise. Like I've said before I'll go with hard numbers and facts as opposed to anecdotes and opinion.
That year we were going to spank LSU but the rain saved them in the 4th. The Baylor game was misleading because we had the lead in the bottom of the 7th until 1 of our pitchers had a meltdown. Now the last game Southern Miss. spanked us. We were out of pitchers. Like I said earlier we had a minor league team that year except for the pitching staff. We only had 3 or 4 quality pitchers that year. Check the Directors Cup standings for 2002/2003. This was a down year for Jaguar sports compared to past years.

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

:)
CCu jacket I was taking your word for what you were saying not bothering to look up any of the info. A fellow member of the Jaguar nation pointed out a couple of facts to me. The Big South has never been ranked above the Swac in football.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/dat...kings_index.php
Conference Rankings

70’s
SWAC 12
Big South 20
80’s
SWAC 22
Big South 27
90’s
SWAC 14
Big South 26
00’s decade pending

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/rankings/all_time_team_rankings.php

All Time Team Rankings



Rank
Team
Total

Points
Win. Pct.

Points
Schedule

Points
Nat. Champs

Points
Big 4 Bowl

Points

1
Notre Dame (IN)
2299.61
743.00
741.61
600.00
215.00

2
Alabama
2278.90
710.22
728.69
550.00
290.00

3
Southern California
2191.07
697.48
678.59
500.00
315.00

4
Michigan
2125.90
744.17
786.74
350.00
245.00

5
Oklahoma
2010.32
713.43
661.89
350.00
285.00

6
Ohio St.
1906.72
709.23
692.49
250.00
255.00

7
Nebraska
1903.85
706.85
676.99
250.00
270.00

8
Texas
1868.26
709.18
744.08
150.00
265.00

9
Tennessee
1796.75
699.37
667.38
200.00
230.00

10
Louisiana St.
1705.52
633.12
727.40
100.00
245.00

11
Georgia Tech
1690.45
593.55
731.90
200.00
165.00

12
Princeton (NJ)
1677.03
678.51
648.52
350.00
0.00

13
Georgia
1668.87
640.22
748.65
100.00
180.00

14
Miami (FL)
1645.17
638.52
526.66
250.00
230.00

15
Penn St.
1628.00
685.36
647.64
100.00
195.00

16
Minnesota
1617.97
585.79
707.17
300.00
25.00

17
Pittsburgh (PA)
1602.25
578.43
618.82
300.00
105.00

18
Yale (CT)
1595.94
711.49
634.45
250.00
0.00

19
Harvard (MA)
1565.05
670.33
579.72
300.00
15.00

20
Illinois
1511.93
526.98
719.95
200.00
65.00

21
Texas A&M
1511.50
603.12
683.38
100.00
125.00

22
Auburn (AL)
1503.42
625.23
733.19
50.00
95.00

23
Washington
1492.17
633.08
619.09
50.00
190.00

24
Florida
1469.64
616.38
668.25
50.00
135.00

25
Arkansas
1447.71
592.80
634.92
50.00
170.00

26
Florida St.
1437.80
676.74
471.06
100.00
190.00

27
Michigan St.
1429.71
593.35
621.35
150.00
65.00

28
UCLA
1420.05
591.06
618.98
50.00
160.00

29
Pennsylvania
1414.01
631.58
672.43
100.00
10.00

30
California
1400.13
562.56
597.57
150.00
90.00

31
Mississippi
1383.62
571.90
621.72
50.00
140.00

32
Stanford (CA)
1375.70
573.25
607.45
50.00
145.00

33
Army (NY)
1365.72
595.87
569.85
200.00
0.00

34
Wisconsin
1325.36
554.88
695.48
0.00
75.00

35
Iowa
1316.92
524.86
722.06
0.00
70.00

36
Syracuse (NY)
1302.03
598.35
553.68
50.00
100.00

37
Texas Christian
1291.86
506.98
624.88
50.00
110.00

38
Cornell (NY)
1286.21
574.51
611.70
100.00
0.00

39
Purdue (IN)
1268.68
539.34
704.34
0.00
25.00

40
Clemson (SC)
1267.48
589.32
563.16
50.00
65.00

41
Colorado
1263.05
615.24
492.81
50.00
105.00

42
Missouri
1252.25
531.87
640.38
0.00
80.00

43
Navy (MD)
1248.60
544.16
644.44
0.00
60.00

44
Dartmouth (NH)
1230.70
616.46
564.24
50.00
0.00

45
Southern Methodist (TX)
1225.42
491.32
624.10
50.00
60.00

46
North Carolina
1218.23
572.70
615.54
0.00
30.00

47
Baylor (TX)
1213.24
506.74
661.50
0.00
45.00

48
Northwestern (IL)
1196.03
424.88
746.15
0.00
25.00

49
Vanderbilt (TN)
1193.30
505.89
687.41
0.00
0.00

50
Maryland
1189.72
532.29
502.43
100.00
55.00

51
Rice (TX)
1181.01
444.56
656.44
0.00
80.00

52
Oregon
1176.96
533.92
573.03
0.00
70.00

53
Tulane (LA)
1173.28
472.12
666.17
0.00
35.00

54
Duke (NC)
1165.87
512.92
577.95
0.00
75.00

55
Mississippi St.
1162.82
485.04
652.78
0.00
25.00

56
Indiana
1155.17
426.23
718.94
0.00
10.00

57
Kentucky
1147.11
502.71
604.40
0.00
40.00

58
Kansas
1143.21
500.00
623.21
0.00
20.00

59
Washington St.
1120.11
511.28
563.83
0.00
45.00

60
Oregon St.
1104.22
475.30
578.93
0.00
50.00

61
Brown (RI)
1069.14
510.46
548.67
0.00
10.00

62
Virginia
1063.37
532.75
520.62
0.00
10.00

63
West Virginia
1061.10
587.15
443.95
0.00
30.00

64
Texas Tech
1055.97
551.61
494.36
0.00
10.00

65
Boston College (MA)
1052.89
578.33
424.57
0.00
50.00

66
Virginia Tech
1047.48
593.49
408.99
0.00
45.00

67
Oklahoma St.
1045.43
489.13
526.30
0.00
30.00

68
North Carolina St.
1031.26
508.53
522.73
0.00
0.00

69
South Carolina
1028.87
491.91
536.96
0.00
0.00

70
Colgate (NY)
1026.04
565.89
460.15
0.00
0.00

71
Houston (TX)
1022.40
516.41
456.00
0.00
50.00

72
Iowa St.
1019.66
461.61
558.05
0.00
0.00

73
Columbia (NY)
1009.23
385.41
608.83
0.00
15.00

74
Kansas St.
1007.72
432.41
550.31
0.00
25.00

75
Arizona
965.33
578.07
372.25
0.00
15.00

76
Arizona St.
958.89
612.87
321.03
0.00
25.00

77
Rutgers (NJ)
952.53
495.33
457.20
0.00
0.00

78
Holy Cross (MA)
946.47
550.94
385.53
0.00
10.00

79
Air Force (CO)
935.73
545.21
370.52
0.00
20.00

80
Lafayette (PA)
924.31
538.36
385.95
0.00
0.00

81
Lehigh (PA)
913.64
526.16
372.48
15.00
0.00

82
Wake Forest (NC)
900.85
401.95
498.90
0.00
0.00

83
Tulsa (OK)
890.64
552.06
303.58
0.00
35.00

84
Utah
889.95
578.23
296.71
0.00
15.00

85
Southern Mississippi
888.83
596.64
262.19
30.00
0.00

86
Grambling St. (LA) :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
888.32
694.77
28.55
165.00
0.00

87
Brigham Young (UT)
856.56
557.67
248.89
50.00
0.00

88
Bucknell (PA)
848.60
519.65
313.95
0.00
15.00

89
Delaware
798.16
606.66
116.50
75.00
0.00

90
Villanova (PA)
784.36
550.97
233.39
0.00
0.00

91
Southern (LA) :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
780.35
634.59
25.76
120.00
0.00

92
San Diego St. (CA)
778.64
568.51
165.13
45.00
0.00

93
Temple (PA)
777.40
449.09
318.32
0.00
10.00

94
Georgetown (DC)
764.47
586.46
168.02
0.00
10.00

95
Fordham (NY)
762.98
522.43
215.55
0.00
25.00

96
Miami (OH)
762.76
638.40
124.36
0.00
0.00

97
Memphis (TN)
759.86
494.22
265.64
0.00
0.00

98
William & Mary (VA)
750.08
506.76
243.31
0.00
0.00

99
Louisiana Tech
745.88
577.91
137.97
30.00
0.00

100
Colorado St.
744.47
483.35
261.12
0.00
0.00

101
Wyoming
743.44
490.13
243.30
0.00
10.00

102
Cincinnati (OH)
738.12
489.31
248.81
0.00
0.00

103
San Jose St. (CA)
735.73
510.45
225.28
0.00
0.00

104
Hawaii
730.09
564.81
165.28
0.00
0.00

105
Utah St.
722.50
513.19
209.31
0.00
0.00

106
Fresno St. (CA)
720.17
594.89
125.28
0.00
0.00

107
Dayton (OH)
716.79
629.87
56.92
30.00
0.00

108
Louisville (KY)
713.56
501.82
211.74
0.00
0.00

109
Georgia Southern
711.01
587.00
34.01
90.00
0.00

110
North Texas
708.09
535.11
172.98
0.00
0.00

111
Virginia Military Institute
701.52
436.09
265.43
0.00
0.00

112
Idaho
697.31
456.91
240.40
0.00
0.00

113
East Carolina (NC)
695.43
512.27
183.16
0.00
0.00

114
Bowling Green (OH)
691.63
599.51
77.12
15.00
0.00

115
Drake (IA)
683.11
529.87
153.23
0.00
0.00

116
New Mexico
680.53
465.57
214.96
0.00
0.00

117
Youngstown St. (OH)
677.05
599.54
17.50
60.00
0.00

118
Tennessee-Chattanooga
668.22
504.76
163.46
0.00
0.00

119
Montana
666.08
510.55
125.53
30.00
0.00

120
Central Michigan
663.08
608.26
39.82
15.00
0.00

121
Boise St. (ID)
661.76
592.00
54.76
15.00
0.00

122
Eastern Kentucky
660.30
610.85
19.45
30.00
0.00

123
Appalachian St. (NC)
659.64
616.35
43.29
0.00
0.00

124
Duquesne (PA)
656.69
572.09
69.60
0.00
15.00

125
Hofstra (NY)
652.96
612.62
40.34
0.00
0.00

:deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

All Time Conference Rankings

Sorted by Total Points

Sorted by Winning Percentage Points

Sorted by Schedule Points

Sorted by National Championship Points

Sorted by Big 4 Bowl Points

Rank
Team
Total

Points
Win. Pct.

Points
Schedule

Points
Nat. Champs

Points
Big 4 Bowl

Points

1
Southeastern Conference
3957.21
589.57
667.65
1150.00
1550.00

2
Big Ten Conference
3684.76
574.10
705.67
1350.00
1055.00

3
Big 12 Conference
3337.87
568.43
609.44
900.00
1260.00

4
Pacific-10 Conference
3034.96
576.89
553.08
800.00
1105.00

5
Atlantic Coast Conference
2664.34
559.34
539.99
700.00
865.00

6
Ivy League
2405.91
597.34
608.57
1150.00
50.00

7
Division I-A Independent
2211.60
643.58
693.03
600.00
275.00

8
Big East Conference
1605.26
538.54
421.72
350.00
295.00

9
Conference USA
1264.10
450.88
338.23
280.00
195.00

10
Western Athletic Conference
1055.80
526.23
259.56
95.00
175.00

11
Patriot League
948.07
544.27
328.80
15.00
60.00

12
Mountain West Conference
892.68
512.33
240.35
95.00
45.00

13
Southwestern Athletic Conference :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
872.32
553.29
34.03
285.00
0.00

14
Southern Conference
727.53
527.36
80.17
120.00
0.00

15
Atlantic 10 Conference
712.47
494.60
112.87
105.00
0.00

16
Sun Belt Conference
703.35
500.77
127.58
75.00
0.00

17
Mid-American Athletic Conference
671.83
507.66
74.17
90.00
0.00

18
Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference
665.58
537.10
8.48
120.00
0.00

19
Gateway Football Conference
626.95
527.52
24.43
75.00
0.00

20
Big Sky Conference
572.80
491.31
36.50
45.00
0.00

21
Ohio Valley Conference
569.64
488.42
36.21
45.00
0.00

22
Southland Conference
558.09
477.66
35.43
45.00
0.00

23
Pioneer Football League
512.36
417.63
64.73
30.00
0.00

24
Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference
420.29
370.70
34.60
0.00
15.00

25
Northeast Conference
346.22
322.90
8.32
15.00
0.00

26
Big South Conference :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
288.62
216.52
72.09
0.00
0.00

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

:deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse

[ccujacket]

SUJag, in regards to the CFDW rankings I'm not even sure how they can consider us a conference in the 70's, 80's, and 90's since we didn't even sponsor football until 2002. The fact that you want to compare a team that's been competing for about 90 years to one that's had football for 2 years is laughable at best. Let's also add that for the 2002 season we only had 3 teams and now we only have 5.

Both Warren Nolan's NPI (link (http://www.warrennolan.com/football1aa/2004/conferencerank) ) and I-AA.org's GPI (link (http://i-aa.org/articles/artfiles/65076_detail.txt)) rank our conference ahead of the vaunted SWAC for the 2004 season.

So this year we have passed you by in the rankings. Make no bones about it though the Big South is a bad football conference. Being behind us in football is like losing a footrace to someone with no legs.

But, yes you can take pride in dominating the Big South during the 70's, 80's, and 90's. Don't let our lack of having football get in your way.

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

jac, I was going to pm you about this since you posted the Nolan link a while back but I forgot. Did you notice his stats and "ranking" only include D-I? I was puzzled that he reprints the GPI (which counts everything) but all else on his site omits D-II etc. If one is measuring I-A then omitting that is fine but when measuring I-AA it really makes a difference. That's like throwing out 10+% of the schedule for many schools. I'll never understand how someone can make a ranking without measuring all the opponents. :confused:
Thanks Ralph. :D

[ccujacket]

jac, I was going to pm you about this since you posted the Nolan link a while back but I forgot. Did you notice his stats and "ranking" only include D-I? I was puzzled that he reprints the GPI (which counts everything) but all else on his site omits D-II etc. If one is measuring I-A then omitting that is fine but when measuring I-AA it really makes a difference. That's like throwing out 10+% of the schedule for many schools. I'll never understand how someone can make a ranking without measuring all the opponents. :confused:
Okay ralph, we'll go by the I-AA.org GPI which has us even farther ahead of the SWAC than Nolan's does.

So given the GPI's, ralph, wouldn't you conclude that of the two lousy conferences the Big South is less lousy?

[ccujacket]

Let me add this Southern is a fine school with boatloads of tradition and a great fanbase. This thread is about the SWAC. Southern is definitely the diamond in the rough in that conference.

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

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[TexasTerror]

Let me add this Southern is a fine school with boatloads of tradition and a great fanbase. This thread is about the SWAC. Southern is definitely the diamond in the rough in that conference.

Which I think is being completely missed in this thread by the Southern faithful. I know what their program is about and it's bar none, the best program in the SWAC. However, there's no depth across the board. In each sport, you have one or two teams that can compete. Even in football. Outside of that, it's the pits! P-U!

Talking about P(V)U...SHSU has scheduled them for a soccer match on September 23rd. Here's hoping I can be there. Final score predictions anyone? Atleast 10-0, eh?

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

[/QUOTE]Talking about P(V)U...SHSU has scheduled them for a soccer match on September 23rd. Here's hoping I can be there. Final score predictions anyone? Atleast 10-0, eh?[/QUOTE]
Soccer is a new sport so it will take a little time. But PVU just got their full allotment of scholarships and are starting to become competative again especially in baseball.

[polsongrizz]

I don't understand why this thread has gone on so long just to put down a conference that IMHO someone has issues with. :confused: :eek:

[TexasTerror]

Soccer is a new sport so it will take a little time. But PVU just got their full allotment of scholarships and are starting to become competative again especially in baseball.

Soccer was new for SHSU as they've won all of six games in two years, five against the SWAC and one against a conference foe. Still in the first season, the Kats rolled the SWAC schools setting school records left and right.

The Panthers just scheduled a game with the Kats for this Saturday. Should be interesting since SHSU rolled TxSo 22-1 and 12-3. This is a weekend game for two teams that have off instead of conference play this weekend. Kats will have their weekend starters, one would assume getting in some work.

[McNeese75]

I talked about Southern more because I know more about Southern me being an alumnist.

:bow:

SUjag, I am in awe at your research and attention to your school. BOWLING!!!! LOL, good job!

[Cap'n Cat]

Originally Posted by SUjagTILLiDIE
"I talked about Southern more because I know more about Southern me being an alumnist."

:D :D :D

Yep, you're one fine "alumnist".

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:


:D :p :D :p :D :p :D :p :D :p :D :p :D :p :D :p

[mikebigg]

I don't understand why this thread has gone on so long just to put down a conference that IMHO someone has issues with. :confused: :eek:

I agree...but it's something I've grown accustomed to seeing from some geographically in the same region as HBCU's. I understand that it's a recruiting ploy that is used by some coaches and their fans.

I mostly ignore it...cuz my decision to attend Grambling had nothing to do with what others felt but what I thought was best for me. I must admit that early on, I used to criticize La Tech and other schools in my area as being a "white" school that only wanted Black athletes. But fortunately for me, I matured and understood that they were simply institutions of higher learning that I supported with my tax dollars. Consequently, I want to see them do "reasonably" well.

Thanks PolsonGrizz...you are dead on in your comment!

[Cap'n Cat]

I agree...but it's something I've grown accustomed to seeing from some geographically in the same region as HBCU's. I understand that it's a recruiting ploy that is used by some coaches and their fans.

I mostly ignore it...cuz my decision to attend Grambling had nothing to do with what others felt but what I thought was best for me. I must admit that early on, I used to criticize La Tech and other schools in my area as being a "white" school that only wanted Black athletes. But fortunately for me, I matured and understood that they were simply institutions of higher learning that I supported with my tax dollars. Consequently, I want to see them do "reasonably" well.

Thanks PolsonGrizz...you are dead on in your comment!

Well, I don't think this thread was originally to put a conference down. Read the first few posts.

And, Mike, very introspective. I enjoy reading your posts.

:) :)

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

Originally Posted by SUjagTILLiDIE
"I talked about Southern more because I know more about Southern me being an alumnist."

:D :D :D

Yep, you're one fine "alumnist".

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:


:D :p :D :p :D :p :D :p :D :p :D :p :D :p :D :p
ok im misspelled a word. I meant to say alumnus. :(