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UNHWildCats
October 27th, 2008, 12:52 PM
PHILADELPHIA - There was still the thought in the back of his head that he ought to be in a Red Sox uniform playing the Phillies in the World Series, but the saving grace of Kevin Youkilis's trip here was his being named the American League recipient of the Hank Aaron Award as the circuit's most outstanding offensive performer.

"It's a little tough," said Youkilis before Game 4 last night. "When I heard the news it was, 'I get to go to the World Series,' which isn't great for me, but to win this award is a great honor."

The award is named for Aaron, the man many still recognize as the true home run champion because of Barry Bonds's alleged use of steroids. Fans cast more than 230,000 votes via online balloting.

It's a measure of just how far Youkilis, who was used predominantly in the No. 4 hole after Manny Ramírez was traded to the Dodgers at the deadline, has come as a hitter.

While one doesn't necessarily consider Youkilis a true cleanup hitter, his numbers in that spot (.299 with 10 homers and 45 RBIs in 174 at-bats) were impressive. His overall .312 batting average, 168 hits, 43 doubles, 29 home runs, and 115 RBIs all fit the model of a cleanup hitter. Not to mention his .569 slugging percentage, his .390 on base percentage, and the fact he hit .374 with runners in scoring position.

Youkilis accepted the award along with the Cubs' Aramis Ramirez, the National League recipient.

Youkilis wasn't going to stay for the game, which he said would be too difficult, but rather he was heading for dinner at his favorite Mexican restaurant in town and was to return to Boston. He said he plans to rest for the next four weeks before beginning his grueling offseason routine at Athletes Performance Institute in Arizona.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2008/10/27/serious_but_not_series_business_for_youkilis_in_ph iladelphia/

Rob Iola
October 27th, 2008, 12:57 PM
Red Sox are so last year...

TheValleyRaider
October 27th, 2008, 05:27 PM
Red Sox are so last year...

You know, the Phillies are 1 win away...

The Flyers have a good young team....

The Eagles are a solid, if unspectacular, side....

Could Philly be the new Boston? xconfusedx xeekx xconfusedx xeekx xsmiley_wix

UNHWildCats
October 27th, 2008, 05:58 PM
sixers are predicted to finish second in the Atlantic

dbackjon
October 27th, 2008, 06:13 PM
Any award based solely on fan balloting is suspect.

Note Cubs and RedSox - two huge bandwagon teams, won the award.

UNHWildCats
October 27th, 2008, 06:21 PM
Any award based solely on fan balloting is suspect.

Note Cubs and RedSox - two huge bandwagon teams, won the award.
While other AL players had arguments for the award, no one could possibly make a valid argument against Youk winning it...

Ramirez of the Cubs... All kinds of arguments can be made Pujols should have won the award easily.

UMass922
October 27th, 2008, 07:00 PM
Any award based solely on fan balloting is suspect.

Note Cubs and RedSox - two huge bandwagon teams, won the award.

No doubt this played a huge role, but Youkilis is a much more plausible winner than Ramirez.

Youkilis was fourth in the AL in OPS. The three players ahead of him were Milton Bradley, A-Rod, and Carlos Quentin. Bradley missed 36 games this year, Quentin missed 32, and no one who followed the AL this year could argue that A-Rod was the best offensive player in the league. Yankee fans will be the first to tell you how hollow his numbers were this year. So Youkilis is certainly a plausible pick for the award, even if he won it for the wrong reasons.

Ramirez, on the other hand, was only tenth in the NL in OPS. He had a nice year, but there's just no way one could argue he had a better year than Pujols or Berkman, among others.

Anyway, the point is that Youkilis might still have won this award even if it weren't voted on by the fans. Ramirez, not a chance.

I do agree, though, that it's not an award to be taken very seriously.

UNHWildCats
October 27th, 2008, 07:31 PM
Youk was 6th in AVG, 6th in OBP, 3rd in SLG, 4th in OPS, 4th in RBI, 12th in HR (8 behind league leader), 7th in doubles.

Sure some players were ahead of him, but no one reached across so many categories.

Josh Hamilton and Dustin Pedroia are the only two players I feel had any sort of argument here.

Hamilton was -.008 in AVG, -.017 in OBP, -.039 in SLG, -.057 in OPS, +15 in RBI ( if there was a first half awards he woulda won everything), +3 in HR, -8 in doubles.

Pedroia has a case, but less. His case is based on leading the league in hitting, hits, runs scored as well as stealing 20 bases and having only 52 strike outs all season.

I think the right choice was made here.

dbackjon
October 27th, 2008, 07:34 PM
No doubt this played a huge role, but Youkilis is a much more plausible winner than Ramirez.

Youkilis was fourth in the AL in OPS. The three players ahead of him were Milton Bradley, A-Rod, and Carlos Quentin. Bradley missed 36 games this year, Quentin missed 32, and no one who followed the AL this year could argue that A-Rod was the best offensive player in the league. Yankee fans will be the first to tell you how hollow his numbers were this year. So Youkilis is certainly a plausible pick for the award, even if he won it for the wrong reasons.

Ramirez, on the other hand, was only tenth in the NL in OPS. He had a nice year, but there's just no way one could argue he had a better year than Pujols or Berkman, among others.

Anyway, the point is that Youkilis might still have won this award even if it weren't voted on by the fans. Ramirez, not a chance.

I do agree, though, that it's not an award to be taken very seriously.

Yes, Youk was more deserving than A-Ram. I think CQ would have been the most deserving had a played a full season.

I like the way Youk plays, despite him being a RedSox (just like I don't hold the pinstripes against A-rod )

UNHWildCats
October 27th, 2008, 07:46 PM
Yes, Youk was more deserving than A-Ram. I think CQ would have been the most deserving had a played a full season.

I like the way Youk plays, despite him being a RedSox (just like I don't hold the pinstripes against A-rod )
he was batting in the 280s.... this is for best overall hitter, not the best power hitter... HRs arent everything.

YaleFootballFan
October 27th, 2008, 11:37 PM
Congratulations to Youk.

Oh yeah, happy 4 year anniversary.

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