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R.A.
November 7th, 2005, 03:30 PM
http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/mainpage.jsp

Wow! It may be Cumulative, but the stats are still facts. It's science. They wouldn't cumulatively rank schedules if it wasn't of concern. The committee must also take this into account. This strengthens their argument very much folks!

henfan
November 7th, 2005, 03:49 PM
R.A., I wouldn't lend too much creedence to that in trying to lobby on behalf of SCSU's schedule. Their SOS ranks 61st in I-AA according to Sagarin. FWIW, SCSU doesn't even have the highest SOS in the MEAC (Delaware State does.)

Good luck to SCSU in Nov.

youwouldno
November 7th, 2005, 03:54 PM
uh NO

blueballs
November 7th, 2005, 03:57 PM
It's not quite science since it doesn't weight the quality of opposition. A 5-6 record by a 1-A BCS on the schedule is weighted less than a 9-2 Ivy for example.

What I'm trying to say is that you have such "powerhouses" as Yale, Princeton, Dartmouth as 2-4. They play predominately Ivy League and regionally biased schedules. There is no way you can convince me their schedules are tougher than Western Carolina for example, who has on their schedule GSU, Furman, App State, Wofford, Cincinnatti; or App State, who has GSU, FU, Kansas, LSU, WCU.

R.A.
November 7th, 2005, 03:58 PM
The committee has to take it into account though, or else they wouldn't have this ranking set up. It is directly from the NCAA. This builds their case even more folks, even if only slightly.

blur2005
November 7th, 2005, 04:02 PM
South Carolina State's chance to get in the playoffs ended when they lost to Hampton in my opinion.

LacesOut
November 7th, 2005, 04:02 PM
Ok, I'll bite.........who is SCSU? Haha!





Just playing.

A 9-2 SCSU team just may get in this year. Just because so many other teams do have 3 and/or 4 losses.

TypicalTribe
November 7th, 2005, 04:03 PM
The committee has to take it into account though, or else they wouldn't have this ranking set up. It is directly from the NCAA. This builds their case even more folks, even if only slightly.

Not in a credible fashion. Espcially when adding Marist to the schedule would help the number.

R.A.
November 7th, 2005, 04:07 PM
South Carolina State's chance to get in the playoffs ended when they lost to Hampton in my opinion.

-When they lost to the Number 2 team in the country? That doesn't sound right.

R.A.
November 7th, 2005, 04:09 PM
Not in a credible fashion. Espcially when adding Marist to the schedule would help the number.

-It's from the NCAA, aren't they a credible source?

blur2005
November 7th, 2005, 04:11 PM
-When they lost to the Number 2 team in the country? That doesn't sound right.
Not in my book. Maybe TSN says that, but I certainly disagree.

TypicalTribe
November 7th, 2005, 04:14 PM
-It's from the NCAA, aren't they a credible source?

Part of me thinks you're just trying to be difficult, but I'll answer anyway.

The NCAA is credible, the metric is not.

89Hen
November 7th, 2005, 04:25 PM
This builds their case even more folks, even if only slightly.
No, not even slightly.

colgate13
November 7th, 2005, 04:25 PM
It's just a stat. There are probably hundreds of different ways to cut up football stats. This isn't the one to hang your hat on.

89Hen
November 7th, 2005, 04:38 PM
Which is the tougher schedule?....

Teams that are combined 70-32
San Diego (9-1)
Dayton (9-1)
Morehead State (8-2)
Central Connecticut (7-3)
Marist (6-3)
Duquesne (6-3)
Alcorn (5-3)
Stony Brook (5-4)
Charleston Southern (5-4)
Monmouth (5-4)
Drake (5-4)

or

Teams that are combined 46-48
Eastern Washington (5-4)
UC-Davis (5-4)
Nicholls State (4-3)
McNeese (4-3)
Portland State (5-5)
Northwestern State (4-4)
Villanova (4-5)
Maine (4-5)
Delaware (4-5)
Missouri State (4-5)
Sam Houston (3-5)

AppGuy04
November 7th, 2005, 04:44 PM
Hell, add Dayton and a bunch of good D2's, that would bring you up

TypicalTribe
November 7th, 2005, 04:45 PM
Which is the tougher schedule?....

Teams that are combined 70-32
San Diego (9-1)
Dayton (9-1)
Morehead State (8-2)
Central Connecticut (7-3)
Marist (6-3)
Duquesne (6-3)
Alcorn (5-3)
Stony Brook (5-4)
Charleston Southern (5-4)
Monmouth (5-4)
Drake (5-4)

or

Teams that are combined 46-48
Eastern Washington (5-4)
UC-Davis (5-4)
Nicholls State (4-3)
McNeese (4-3)
Portland State (5-5)
Northwestern State (4-4)
Villanova (4-5)
Maine (4-5)
Delaware (4-5)
Missouri State (4-5)
Sam Houston (3-5)

Well, duh. Obviously, the first one.

Cocky
November 7th, 2005, 04:56 PM
This is what turns computer polls, index, or whatever you want to call them into nothing more than a TSN, ESPN, AP, or AGS poll. A human in the end decides the outcome.

OL FU
November 7th, 2005, 05:20 PM
This is what turns computer polls, index, or whatever you want to call them into nothing more than a TSN, ESPN, AP, or AGS poll. A human in the end decides the outcome.

Cocky, not to change the subject. but if JSU beats E. Ill., Where is the OVC going to find a three sided coin?

R.A.
November 7th, 2005, 05:27 PM
It's just a stat. There are probably hundreds of different ways to cut up football stats.

-True.

R.A.
November 7th, 2005, 05:28 PM
The playoff committee officially only takes their internal poll into account. Everything else is peripheral.

-Oh.