TSN Poll - 11/7

[TexasTerror]

Sports Network's I-AA College Football Poll
Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. New Hampshire Wildcats (57) 8-1 2,634 2
2. Hampton Pirates (44) 9-0 2,531 3
3. Montana Grizzlies (4) 7-2 2,458 4
4. Southern Illinois Salukis 7-2 2,327 5
5. Massachusetts Minutemen 7-2 2,074 8
6. Furman Paladins 7-2 2,058 1
7. Texas State Bobcats 7-2 1,882 10
8. Appalachian State Mountaineers (3) 6-3 1,845 7
9. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 8-1 1,800 9
10. Georgia Southern Eagles 7-3 1,694 14
11. Montana State Bobcats 6-3 1,559 12
12. Western Kentucky Hilltoppers 6-3 1,430 6
13. Lehigh Mountain Hawks 7-2 1,409 13
14. Northern Iowa Panthers 6-3 1,370 17
15. Cal Poly Mustangs 6-3 1,244 18
16. Grambling State Tigers 7-1 1,002 19
17. South Carolina State Bulldogs 7-2 866 20
18. Richmond Spiders 6-3 699 23
19. Youngstown State Penguins 7-3 697 15
20. Brown Bears 7-1 643 22
21. Eastern Washington Eagles 5-4 605 11
22. North Dakota State Bison 6-3 567 24
23. Eastern Illinois Panthers 7-2 513 25
24. William & Mary Tribe 5-4 217 16
25. James Madison Dukes 5-4 168 NR
Others receiving votes: Illinois State 158, Nicholls State 157, Weber State 68, Princeton 60, Alabama A&M 57, Colgate 40, UC Davis 34, Western Carolina 32, Jacksonville State 32, San Diego 29, McNeese State 24, Hofstra 23, Idaho State 19, Lafayette 17, Stephen F. Austin 16, Towson 12, Alabama State 12, South Dakota State 9, Chattanooga 8, Northwestern State 5.
As of November 7, 2005, at 12:50 PM ET

[AppGuy04]

Sports Network's I-AA College Football Poll
Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. New Hampshire Wildcats (57) 8-1 2,634 2
2. Hampton Pirates (44) 9-0 2,531 3
3. Montana Grizzlies (4) 7-2 2,458 4
4. Southern Illinois Salukis 7-2 2,327 5
5. Massachusetts Minutemen 7-2 2,074 8
6. Furman Paladins 7-2 2,058 1
7. Texas State Bobcats 7-2 1,882 10
8. Appalachian State Mountaineers (3) 6-3 1,845 7
9. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 8-1 1,800 9
10. Georgia Southern Eagles 7-3 1,694 14
11. Montana State Bobcats 6-3 1,559 12
12. Western Kentucky Hilltoppers 6-3 1,430 6
13. Lehigh Mountain Hawks 7-2 1,409 13
14. Northern Iowa Panthers 6-3 1,370 17
15. Cal Poly Mustangs 6-3 1,244 18
16. Grambling State Tigers 7-1 1,002 19
17. South Carolina State Bulldogs 7-2 866 20
18. Richmond Spiders 6-3 699 23
19. Youngstown State Penguins 7-3 697 15
20. Brown Bears 7-1 643 22
21. Eastern Washington Eagles 5-4 605 11
22. North Dakota State Bison 6-3 567 24
23. Eastern Illinois Panthers 7-2 513 25
24. William & Mary Tribe 5-4 217 16
25. James Madison Dukes 5-4 168 NR
Others receiving votes: Illinois State 158, Nicholls State 157, Weber State 68, Princeton 60, Alabama A&M 57, Colgate 40, UC Davis 34, Western Carolina 32, Jacksonville State 32, San Diego 29, McNeese State 24, Hofstra 23, Idaho State 19, Lafayette 17, Stephen F. Austin 16, Towson 12, Alabama State 12, South Dakota State 9, Chattanooga 8, Northwestern State 5.
As of November 7, 2005, at 12:50 PM ET

3 first place votes for App, hmmm

[TexasTerror]

3 first place votes for App, hmmm

Seems you fellas got loads of respect from that showing against top 10 LSU...

That or some media knows the stigma of being numero uno and are wishing harm!

I think the first one...

[OL FU]

3 first place votes for App, hmmm

Moe, Larry and Curly. :D

[AppGuy04]

Moe, Larry and Curly. :D

FU ;)

[LacesOut]

Moe, Larry and Curly. :D


Pardon my ignorance, but what is a Paladin?

[umassfan]

Got 3 first place votes but droped a spot...

[umassfan]

Sports Network's I-AA College Football Poll
Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. New Hampshire Wildcats (57) 8-1 2,634 2
2. Hampton Pirates (44) 9-0 2,531 3
3. Montana Grizzlies (4) 7-2 2,458 4
4. Southern Illinois Salukis 7-2 2,327 5
5. Massachusetts Minutemen 7-2 2,074 8
6. Furman Paladins 7-2 2,058 1
7. Texas State Bobcats 7-2 1,882 10
8. Appalachian State Mountaineers (3) 6-3 1,845 7
9. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 8-1 1,800 9
10. Georgia Southern Eagles 7-3 1,694 14
11. Montana State Bobcats 6-3 1,559 12
12. Western Kentucky Hilltoppers 6-3 1,430 6
13. Lehigh Mountain Hawks 7-2 1,409 13
14. Northern Iowa Panthers 6-3 1,370 17
15. Cal Poly Mustangs 6-3 1,244 18
16. Grambling State Tigers 7-1 1,002 19
17. South Carolina State Bulldogs 7-2 866 20
18. Richmond Spiders 6-3 699 23
19. Youngstown State Penguins 7-3 697 15
20. Brown Bears 7-1 643 22
21. Eastern Washington Eagles 5-4 605 11
22. North Dakota State Bison 6-3 567 24
23. Eastern Illinois Panthers 7-2 513 25
24. William & Mary Tribe 5-4 217 16
25. James Madison Dukes 5-4 168 NR
Others receiving votes: Illinois State 158, Nicholls State 157, Weber State 68, Princeton 60, Alabama A&M 57, Colgate 40, UC Davis 34, Western Carolina 32, Jacksonville State 32, San Diego 29, McNeese State 24, Hofstra 23, Idaho State 19, Lafayette 17, Stephen F. Austin 16, Towson 12, Alabama State 12, South Dakota State 9, Chattanooga 8, Northwestern State 5.
As of November 7, 2005, at 12:50 PM ET

Who are the 44 insane people?

[AppGuy04]

Who are the 44 insane people?

hahahahhahaa

[footballsmarts1]

umass fan... over these last couple of weeks i have not agreed with you very much.... but on this one i with you... Umass moving to 5 after run though, over and around Del. that is crazy....

[89Hen]

Got 3 first place votes but droped a spot...
That's probably because Furman had 61 first place votes last week and surely there are 3 homer SoCon voters. :p

[LacesOut]

Also, what is the point of polls now at this point in the season for teams? Do the people who pick the 8 at large teams even look at where a team is ranked??

Twenty five teams are ranked, 8 auto bid teams are in, so that leaves 17 teams for the remaining 8 spots.

I'm not real sure what I'm even asking here.

[umassfan]

umass fan... over these last couple of weeks i have not agreed with you very much.... but on this one i with you... Umass moving down after run though, over and around Del. that is crazy....

Im not talkin bout UMass... APP St moved down 1 but got 3 first place votes.

[LacesOut]

Who are the 44 insane people?


LMAO

[colgate13]

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a Paladin?

It's a crusader type figure. Think knight in shining armour.

[bluehenbillk]

The top part of the poll is fine IMO.

The bottom 5 are a little screwed up, but they won't be in the playoffs anyway.

[HIUguy08]

Who are the 44 insane people?

How many votes did UMASS get?

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Coastal at #9?

3 3-loss teams ranked ahead of Lehigh? I won't quibble with App St., or even Georgia Southern. But Western Kentucky, with two straight losses, over Lehigh?

I'm no SC St. hater, but at #17?

The AGS poll is sooooooo much better. :D

[TexasTerror]

Funny thing is, if Hampton gets blown out of the playoffs (especially at home)...we'll have everyone and their mother saying "I TOLD YA SO".

That may be the worst week we'd ever have on AGS ever, that is unless UMass wins the I-AA title!

[GSUhooligan]

That's probably because Furman had 61 first place votes last week and surely there are 3 homer SoCon voters. :p


Or they're 3 Western Carolina fans hoping the jinx continues...

[Stang Fever]

Coastal at #9?

3 3-loss teams ranked ahead of Lehigh? I won't quibble with App St., or even Georgia Southern. But Western Kentucky, with two straight losses, over Lehigh?

I'm no SC St. hater, but at #17?

The AGS poll is sooooooo much better. :D


Its just pure crap...when Poly Lost two straight they dropped 15 spots...People on the east just love to see a west team drop a game...so they can drop them fast...I hate seeing Montana State above Poly after they got a good butt kicking here a few weeks back........Dont know how what i just said helps your case (lehigh) but just had to say that

[ASU Kep]

While we're on the subject, my neighbor told me a few days ago that Furman's initials were even funnier back in the day when it was the "Furman University of Christian Knights". GO ****! Is this true?

[TypicalTribe]

Its just pure crap...when Poly Lost two straight they dropped 15 spots...People on the east just love to see a west team drop a game...so they can drop them fast...I hate seeing Montana State above Poly after they got a good butt kicking here a few weeks back........Dont know how what i just said helps your case (lehigh) but just had to say that

It doesn't, it makes it sound weaker. Why has Montana State held up so well with 3 losses, or EWU staying in the Top 25 with 4 losses? WKU has gone from #1 to #14 with back-to-back defeats. It's not East v. West. When you lose consecutive games, you're going to get hit hard.

[89Hen]

Its just pure crap...when Poly Lost two straight they dropped 15 spots...People on the east just love to see a west team drop a game...so they can drop them fast...
:boring: :deadhorse

JMU #4 lost ---> #11 lost ---> #17

Delaware #5 lost --> #13 lost ---> #22

NWSt #9 lost --> #15 lost --> #23

Harvard #15 lost --> #20 lost --> #39

That's after 2 minutes of looking. PLEASE, one day come on here and provide ANYTHING that supports your continued wild claims of an "East Coast Bias". :nono:

[Stang Fever]

Did those teams you mention drop back to back games or just lose two games in 3 or 4 weeks

[SpiritCymbal]

Georgia Southern dropped even more than 15 spots after two consecutive losses.

Someone with super skills (or just time to do so), but didn't GSU drop from like #5 to #24 with losses to McNeese St and Wofford?

EDIT: Took the time to do it myself. GSU went from #7 to #31. Still want to bitch and complain Mustang?

[OL FU]

While we're on the subject, my neighbor told me a few days ago that Furman's initials were even funnier back in the day when it was the "Furman University of Christian Knights". GO ****! Is this true?

The anacronym that captures my exact words at about 6:50 EST on Saturday.

Our sports teams have been called a few different things. I don't recall that they were ever Christian Knights, but maybe.

[ysubigred]

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a Paladin?

I've wondered that myself: Websters,

1. One of the 12 peers of Charlemagne's court. 2. A heroic paragon of chivalry.

:eek:

[AppGuy04]

I've wondered that myself: Websters,

1. One of the 12 peers of Charlemagne's court. 2. A heroic paragon of chivalry.

:eek:

still looks ghey in purple

[OL FU]

still looks ghey in purple

Purple is the royal color.
Pink is the queer one.

[LacesOut]

still looks ghey in purple


LOL

I must disagree.

FU's uni's rock.

[R.A.]

-Hampton's the only undefeated team in the country. Number 2 is where they should be right now, and if N.H. loses... then it should be no question that the Pirates are Number One. But RIGHT NOW, they deserve to be number 2
-SCSU might even crack the top ten before the season's over with. They just jumped 3 spots deservingly, and with the shake up that's bound to happen next weekend, if the Bulldogs lay the smack down on Morgan and A&T, the they will have EARNED their At-Large playoff birth, Plain and simple.

[blueballs]

-Hampton's the only undefeated team in the country. Number 2 is where they should be right now, and if N.H. loses... then it should be no question that the Pirates are Number One. But RIGHT NOW, they deserve to be number 2
-SCSU might even crack the top ten before the season's over with. They just jumped 3 spots deservingly, and with the shake up that's bound to happen next weekend, if the Bulldogs lay the smack down on Morgan and A&T, the they will have EARNED their At-Large playoff birth, Plain and simple.

...and hopefully a Thanksgiving weekend trip down the road to Statesboro.

BTW, no smack intended, truly a legitimate question... how many ranked teams has Hampton played?

[blur2005]

There is no way South Carolina St. should make the playoffs. The two chances they had for quality wins, Coastal and Hampton, ended in defeats. Call me back when you beat someone.

[blur2005]

Did those teams you mention drop back to back games or just lose two games in 3 or 4 weeks
Yes they were back to back defeats. JMU lost three in a row to fall out of the polls before upsetting W&M on Saturday.

[89Hen]

Did those teams you mention drop back to back games or just lose two games in 3 or 4 weeks
Back to back.

[89Hen]

-SCSU might even crack the top ten before the season's over with. They just jumped 3 spots deservingly, and with the shake up that's bound to happen next weekend, if the Bulldogs lay the smack down on Morgan and A&T, the they will have EARNED their At-Large playoff birth, Plain and simple.[/B]
Agreed on Hampton, but I'm not buying on SCSt. They had their chance twice (HU and Coastal) to show they are top 10 material and they lost both.

[TypicalTribe]

Agreed on Hampton, but I'm not buying on SCSt. They had their chance twice (HU and Coastal) to show they are top 10 material and they lost both.

Everyone else in the playoff hunt has a credible win or two. SCSU has nothing to hang their hat on but record. Unfortunately, CCU has them one-upped in that regard and it will further hamper their slim chances.

[89Hen]

Unfortunately, CCU has them one-upped in that regard and it will further hamper their slim chances.
:nod: CCU holding that card really dampens SCSt's chances.

[Stang Fever]

There is NO WAY IN THE WORLD SCSU has a chance....YOU HAVE NO QUALITY WINS

1. The committee shall select the best teams available on a national at-large basis to complete the bracket; 2. There is no limit to the number of teams the committee may select from one conference; 3. The won-lost record of a team will be scrutinized to determine a team’s strength of schedule; however, less than seven Division I wins will place a team in jeopardy of not being selected; 4. The committee may give more consideration to those teams that have played all Division I opponents; and 5. If the team of a committee member is under consideration, the member may not vote for the team being considered and will not be in the room when a vote is taken.


Satement number 3 says it all....Strength of schedule will and should keep you out...if everyone on here gets on CC for there strength of schedule and you lost to that team...that just says something about your strength of schedule....Yes you are winning games you are suppose to win...but to have a leg to stand on you would have at LEAST gone 1 of 2 with CC and Hampton...But you didnt so there is no need to even bring it up anymore about SCSU being in the playoffs and for that matter being a top ten team

[skinny_uncle]

Coastal at #9?

3 3-loss teams ranked ahead of Lehigh? I won't quibble with App St., or even Georgia Southern. But Western Kentucky, with two straight losses, over Lehigh?

I'm no SC St. hater, but at #17?


The AGS poll is sooooooo much better. :D

Both of WKU's losses were to ranked teams. UNI probably has a bigger beef being ranked behind you and the Hilltoppers that they just beat.
:eek:

[89Hen]

There is NO WAY IN THE WORLD SCSU has a chance....
If you knew your selection history, you'd know that they have a pretty decent chance. :nod: See Bethune-Cookman 2003.

[R.A.]

If you knew your selection history, you'd know that they have a pretty decent chance. :nod: See Bethune-Cookman 2003.

:nod: ;) Everyone else knows it. Why is it that many of these posters won't even acknowledge it?

[blueballs]

SCSU has a good chance at the playoffs, but if they are fortunate enough to get in it goes downhill from there quickly as a trip to either Greenville or Statesboro awaits.

[Hamptongal]

There is NO WAY IN THE WORLD SCSU has a chance....YOU HAVE NO QUALITY WINS

1. The committee shall select the best teams available on a national at-large basis to complete the bracket; 2. There is no limit to the number of teams the committee may select from one conference; 3. The won-lost record of a team will be scrutinized to determine a team’s strength of schedule; however, less than seven Division I wins will place a team in jeopardy of not being selected; 4. The committee may give more consideration to those teams that have played all Division I opponents; and 5. If the team of a committee member is under consideration, the member may not vote for the team being considered and will not be in the room when a vote is taken.


Satement number 3 says it all....Strength of schedule will and should keep you out...if everyone on here gets on CC for there strength of schedule and you lost to that team...that just says something about your strength of schedule....Yes you are winning games you are suppose to win...but to have a leg to stand on you would have at LEAST gone 1 of 2 with CC and Hampton...But you didnt so there is no need to even bring it up anymore about SCSU being in the playoffs and for that matter being a top ten team
So the Bulldogs have a chance, right?

[AppGuy04]

So the Bulldogs have a chance, right?

honestly, i don't think they do, had they beaten either Hampton or Coastal then I'd say they were in, but having lost both against the only 2 decent teams on their schedule, the 9 wins might as well have been D2's, its not gonna matter, if Coastal didn't get in last year, there is no way SCSU gets in this year

[OL FU]

honestly, i don't think they do, had they beaten either Hampton or Coastal then I'd say they were in, but having lost both against the only 2 decent teams on their schedule, the 9 wins might as well have been D2's, its not gonna matter, if Coastal didn't get in last year, there is no way SCSU gets in this year

There is a big difference last year. A-10 had four teams that were either 9-2 or 8-3 and three of the four were co-champs. A-10 could be down to two teams. Southland had two teams, may not happen this year. Patriot had two teams, probably will not happen this year. Gateway could get two teams in this year but it may depend on the next two weeks. On the other side, Southern, BSouth add one. If Cal-Poly wins out, the GWFC adds one. But there are lots of possibilities this year that make room for a 9-2 SC State. It is far from certain. But the right combination of losses (and not huge upsets) over the next two weeks could get them in.

[89Hen]

honestly, i don't think they do, had they beaten either Hampton or Coastal then I'd say they were in, but having lost both against the only 2 decent teams on their schedule, the 9 wins might as well have been D2's, its not gonna matter, if Coastal didn't get in last year, there is no way SCSU gets in this year
:confused: I guess you skipped my post or didn't bother to look up Bethune from 2003.

Beat no ranked teams: SavannahSt (0-12), AlabamaSt (8-5), FIU (2-10), Norfolk (1-11), DelSt (1-10), SCSt (8-4), Hampton (7-4), Howard (4-7), FAMU (6-6)

Lost to Morgan (6-5) and NCA&T (10-2).

9-2 and got an at large.

[AppGuy04]

:confused: I guess you skipped my post or didn't bother to look up Bethune from 2003.

Beat no ranked teams: SavannahSt (0-12), AlabamaSt (8-5), FIU (2-10), Norfolk (1-11), DelSt (1-10), SCSt (8-4), Hampton (7-4), Howard (4-7), FAMU (6-6)

Lost to Morgan (6-5) and NCA&T (10-2).

9-2 and got an at large.

few and far between

[89Hen]

few and far between
:confused: That was only two years ago and if you remember, there were four Gateway teams and one Independent that got bids, so in a year where there may be no conferences with three, SCSt has a very good chance of getting an at-large IMO.

[AppGuy04]

:confused: That was only two years ago and if you remember, there were four Gateway teams and one Independent that got bids, so in a year where there may be no conferences with three, SCSt has a very good chance of getting an at-large IMO.

i just think there are too many qualified teams that would be selected before them, and losing to Coastal doesn't help in the respect

[TypicalTribe]

i just think there are too many qualified teams that would be selected before them, and losing to Coastal doesn't help in the respect

That's just the issue though, there really aren't that many qualified teams and many of the teams that would have a good chance of making the field right now are one loss away from being unable to win 7 DI games.

Long story short, this is shaping up as an extremely unique season and anything remains possible. Including the following scenario:

At-large:

UMass
Cal Poly
GSU
Furman
CCU
SCSU
Ill St
W&M

Seriously. And it wouldn't even require many surprises.

[umassfan]

That's just the issue though, there really aren't that many qualified teams and many of the teams that would have a good chance of making the field right now are one loss away from being unable to win 7 DI games.

Long story short, this is shaping up as an extremely unique season and anything remains possible. Including the following scenario:

At-large:

UMass
Cal Poly
GSU
Furman
CCU
SCSU
Ill St
W&M

Seriously. And it wouldn't even require many surprises.

How would W&M get in with 4 losses?

[AppGuy04]

How would W&M get in with 4 losses?

b/c there are several 4 loss teams who would whoop SCSU

[R.A.]

-I just think that Hampton's going to win one, maybe two games. As for SCSU, if they get it, they are going to give h3ll to somebody. They have a pretty even history against Furman if they meet there.

[R.A.]

-I just think that Hampton's going to win one, maybe two games. As for SCSU, if they get it, they are going to give h3ll to somebody. They have a pretty even history against Furman if they meet there. And Bulldog fans travel deep. They had at least 2,000 fans plus their 260 member band at the game last Saturday in Washington, DC. If they're traveling that deep to somewhere 600-700 miles away... imagine how deep they will be for a playoff game instate. The games are played on field though. So we'll see how things turn out for them these next coupke of weeks. But some of these current 3 loss teams, are a weekend away to getting that 4th loss.

[TypicalTribe]

How would W&M get in with 4 losses?

Bear with me here.

Big Sky:
EWU beats MSU
Montana beats MSU
Montana wins auto-bid and is only eligible team

Southland:
2 of 3 teams (TSU, Nicholls and McNeese) lose another game
Only auto-bid winner would qualify

Gateway:
SIU beats NIU (NIU not eligible)
WKU beats YSU (YSU not eligible)
FIU beats WKU (WKU not eligible)
SIU gets the auto-bid

Patriot - Lehigh beats Lafayette for auto-bid
Southern - ASU, Furman and GSU
OVC - one team
MEAC - Hampton and SCSU
GWFC - Cal Poly
Big South - Coastal

That's 12 teams for 7 of the 8 auto-bid conferences, including at-large bids for CCU, Cal Poly and SCSU. So, that leaves us with four spots for the A-10 and any remaining at-large teams. However, given the above losses, the only teams left with a chance to win 7 DI games would be the following:

UNH
UMass
Hofstra
Richmond
W&M
Towson
Ill State
Colgate
San Diego

Assuming UNH is in, that leaves us 8 teams for 3 spots. Imagine the following:

UMass beats Hofstra
Towson beats Richmond
W&M beats Richmond
JMU beats Towson

If this happened, UMass would be in and Hofstra and Richmond would not be playoff eligible. So that would leave us with 5 teams for 2 spots. W&M and Towson would be 7-4 overall and 5-3 in conference, but W&M would have beaten Towson and would have the far superior GPI rating. So, we would be left with W&M, Ill State, Colgate and San Diego. Since Ill State would be Top 15 in the GPI, I think they would get in and San Diego being a mid-major would probably be left out, leaving us with Colgate and W&M for the final at-large. I don't think there's much difference between the two team's resumes, but W&M's win over UNH is better than Colgate's win over UMass and Colgate's two losses to CCSU and Dartmouth are worse than W&M's losses to URI and Villanova. Therefore, I think W&M would get the nod.

Wasn't that fun?

[TypicalTribe]

-I just think that Hampton's going to win one, maybe two games. As for SCSU, if they get it, they are going to give h3ll to somebody. They have a pretty even history against Furman if they meet there. And Bulldog fans travel deep. They had at least 2,000 fans plus their 260 member band at the game last Saturday in Washington, DC. If they're traveling that deep to somewhere 600-700 miles away... imagine how deep they will be for a playoff game instate. The games are played on field though. So we'll see how things turn out for them these next coupke of weeks. But some of these current 3 loss teams, are a weekend away to getting that 4th loss.

I have a feeling Hampton is going to host a SoCon or A-10 team and get pounded. I don't think SCSU at ASU will be pretty either.

[AppGuy04]

I have a feeling Hampton is going to host a SoCon or A-10 team and get pounded. I don't think SCSU at ASU will be pretty either.

DING DING DING, TELL HIM WHAT HE'S WON!

[colgate13]

I don't think there's much difference between the two team's resumes, but W&M's win over UNH is better than Colgate's win over UMass and Colgate's two losses to CCSU and Dartmouth are worse than W&M's losses to URI and Villanova. Therefore, I think W&M would get the nod.

In that scenario, I think 8-3 gets the nod before 7-4. Just my Homer opinion of course.

[TypicalTribe]

In that scenario, I think 8-3 gets the nod before 7-4. Just my Homer opinion of course.

I was hoping you'd catch that. I probably agree. Did I give you any hope for your chances?

[JMU Duke Dog]

How would W&M get in with 4 losses?

I actually agree with umassfan that W&M does not get in with 4 losses. If JMU and W&M both finish 7-4, then JMU should get the nod over W&M. Take that Tribe!

[colgate13]

I actually agree with umassfan that W&M does not get in with 4 losses. If JMU and W&M both finish 7-4, then JMU should get the nod over W&M. Take that Tribe!

If both finish 7-4, I think an 8-3 Colgate or a 9-2 SC. St. make it first.

[colgate13]

I was hoping you'd catch that. I probably agree. Did I give you any hope for your chances?

Somewhat. My true hopes lie in the 141st meeting of Lehigh/Lafayette. There's a lot of folks penciling in Lehigh for the autobid already... :nod:

[JMU Duke Dog]

If both finish 7-4, I think an 8-3 Colgate or a 9-2 SC. St. make it first.

People might start calling me the next umassfan on AGS. But oh well here goes nothing. I guarantee that JMU could go into either Colgate or South Carolina State and beat them.

[AppGuy04]

People might start calling me the next umassfan on AGS. But oh well here goes nothing. I guarantee that JMU could go into either Colgate or South Carolina State and beat them.

Colgate, toss up

SCSU, thats not saying much IMHO, but agree

[colgate13]

I guarantee that JMU could go into either Colgate or South Carolina State and beat them.

Basing that one on our common opponent this year of UMass? :confused:

Keep in mind, the field conditions might no be so nice up here too. :rolleyes:

[89Hen]

I guarantee that JMU could go into either Colgate or South Carolina State and beat them.
Please explain. You couldn't go into Coastal or Delaware and come away with the win, how can you guarantee a win at either of those? :confused: :cool:

[TypicalTribe]

Please explain. You couldn't go into Coastal or Delaware and come away with the win, how can you guarantee a win at either of those? :confused: :cool:

Maybe you missed it, but they won the NC last year! They can do anything! Win mythical games on the road, get the selection committee to change criteria to allow the defending champions in the playoffs, etc. :rolleyes:

[AppGuy04]

Maybe you missed it, but they won the NC last year! They can do anything! Win mythical games on the road, get the selection committee to change criteria to allow the defending champions in the playoffs, etc. :rolleyes:

exactly LAST YEAR

[JMU Duke Dog]

Maybe you missed it, but they won the NC last year! They can do anything! Win mythical games on the road, get the selection committee to change criteria to allow the defending champions in the playoffs, etc. :rolleyes:

Well we can definitely beat W&M in Williamsburg. Take that Tribe!

IT IS ONLY A SUGGESTION TO THE SELECTION COMMITTEE FOR 7 DI WINS AND NOT A NECESSARY REQUIREMENT!

[JMU Duke Dog]

exactly LAST YEAR

APP STATE = NO NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

[AppGuy04]

APP STATE = NO NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

hey, i'd rather be optimistic than live in the past, you guys won't even be able to defend, so u can't really talk much at the moment

[TypicalTribe]

Well we can definitely beat W&M in Williamsburg. Take that Tribe!

IT IS ONLY A SUGGESTION TO THE SELECTION COMMITTEE FOR 7 DI WINS AND NOT A NECESSARY REQUIREMENT!

Won't help you make the playoffs, my friend.

[JMU Duke Dog]

Won't help you make the playoffs, my friend.

Well when both of us are at home JMU will still have bragging rights over W&M, my friend.