Does Hampton drop out of the polls with a loss to South Carolina State? Also...

[R.A.]

Question #1- Does current #24 Hampton drop out of the polls with a loss to South Carolina State?

#24 Hampton (5-1, 4-0) should move up a couple of spots in the polls this week with their victory versus Norfolk State.

Now, what if Hampton loses @ South Carolina State (5-2, 3-0) in Orangeburg... would Hampton fall completely out of the polls?

Question #2- If South Carolina State defeats Hampton, what position would the Bulldogs finally break into the polls at?

[wkuhillhound]

To me it would probably depend on the score of the game.

[PIRATETIZED1]

The PIRATES will definitely drop out, no matter what the score if they lose. Pirates are not playing well, yet winning "ugly style"! The running game is not working!


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[R.A.]

Interesting. As I look at The Sports Network Poll, I now see a couple of 3-4 teams...

Top-25 College Football Fared

Team (Record)

1. James Madison Dukes (6-1)
Oct. 18: Idle
Oct. 25: at Villanova
Nov. 1: vs. Delaware

2. Appalachian State Mountaineers (5-2)
Oct. 18: def. Ga Southern (37-36) (Allen E. Paulson Stadium)
Oct. 25: vs. Furman
Oct. 31: vs. Wofford

3. Elon Phoenix (7-1)
Oct. 18: def. Chattanooga (42-7) (Finley Stadium Davenport Field)
Oct. 25: vs. Wofford
Nov. 1: Idle

4. Wofford Terriers (5-1)
Oct. 18: def. Western Carolina (42-14) (Gibbs Stadium)
Oct. 25: at Elon
Oct. 31: at Appalachian St

5. Cal Poly Mustangs (4-1)
Oct. 18: def. South Dakota St (42-28) (Coughlin-Alumni Stadium)
Oct. 25: vs. Southern Utah
Nov. 1: vs. Idaho State

6. Northern Iowa Panthers (5-2)
Oct. 18: def. North Dakota St (23-13) (UNI-Dome)
Oct. 25: at Youngstown St
Nov. 1: at Western Ill

7. Villanova Wildcats (5-1)
Oct. 18: def. Rhode Island (44-7) (Meade Stadium)
Oct. 25: vs. James Madison
Nov. 1: at Northeastern

8. Montana Grizzlies (6-1)
Oct. 18: def. Sacramento St (43-7) (Washington-Grizzly Stadium)
Oct. 25: at Northern Colorado
Nov. 1: vs. Northern Ariz

9. Richmond Spiders (5-3)
Oct. 18: def. Massachusetts (30-15) (Warren McGuirk Alumni Stadium)
Oct. 25: vs. Georgetown
Nov. 1: Idle

10. Massachusetts Minutemen (4-3)
Oct. 18: lost Richmond (30-15) (Warren McGuirk Alumni Stadium)
Oct. 25: vs. Bryant
Nov. 1: at Rhode Island

11. New Hampshire Wildcats (5-1)
Oct. 18: def. Northeastern (33-21) (Parsons Field)
Oct. 25: vs. Towson
Nov. 1: vs. Hofstra

12. McNeese State Cowboys (4-2)
Oct. 18: def. Sam Houston St (28-17) (Bowers Stadium)
Oct. 25: vs. Nicholls State
Nov. 1: at SE Louisiana

13. Central Arkansas Bears (6-1)
Oct. 18: def. Texas State (31-24) (Jim Wacker Field at Bobcat Stadium)
Oct. 25: vs. SE Louisiana
Nov. 1: at Nicholls State

14. Liberty Flames (6-1)
Oct. 18: lost Lafayette (35-21) (Williams Stadium)
Oct. 25: vs. Char Southern
Nov. 1: at Presbyterian

15. Western Illinois Leathernecks (5-2)
Oct. 18: def. Indiana State (56-0) (Hanson Field)
Oct. 25: Idle
Nov. 1: vs. Northern Iowa

16. Southern Illinois Salukis (4-2)
Oct. 18: def. Youngstown St (33-0) (Arnold D. Stambaugh Stadium)
Oct. 25: at Missouri State
Nov. 1: vs. North Dakota

17. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks (5-1)
Oct. 18: at Idaho State
Oct. 25: vs. Weber State
Nov. 1: at Montana

18. Weber State Wildcats (6-2)
Oct. 18: def. Northern Colorado (17-10) (Elizabeth Dee Shaw Stewart Stadium)
Oct. 25: at Northern Ariz
Nov. 1: vs. Portland State

19. Furman Paladins (6-2)
Oct. 18: def. Citadel (34-20) (Paladin Stadium)
Oct. 25: at Appalachian St
Nov. 1: at Samford

20. North Dakota State Bison (3-4)
Oct. 18: lost Northern Iowa (23-13) (UNI-Dome)
Oct. 25: at Illinois State
Nov. 1: vs. Indiana State

21. South Dakota State Jackrabbits (3-4)
Oct. 18: lost Cal Poly (42-28) (Coughlin-Alumni Stadium)
Oct. 25: at Indiana State
Nov. 1: vs. Missouri State
22. Tennessee State Tigers (6-1)
Oct. 18: def. Austin Peay (37-34) (Nashville Coliseum)
Oct. 25: at SE Missouri St
Nov. 1: vs. Tenn Tech

23. Jacksonville State Gamecocks (5-2)
Oct. 18: def. Murray State (31-21) (Paul Snow Memorial Stadium)
Oct. 23: at Tenn-Martin
Nov. 1: vs. Austin Peay

24. The Citadel Bulldogs (3-4)
Oct. 18: lost Furman (34-20) (Paladin Stadium)
Oct. 25: at Samford
Nov. 1: vs. Ga Southern

25. Hampton Pirates (5-1)
Oct. 18: def. Norfolk State (35-17) (Armstrong Stadium)
Oct. 25: at SC State
Nov. 1: vs. Winston-Salem St

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/sched/cf_fared.aspx

[soccerguy315]

North Dakota State and South Dakota State will probably will probably drop with their losses, since teams usually fall when they lose.

HOWEVER... if you previously had these teams ranked at #20 and #21, and they lost to #5 and #6, shouldn't that just mean your poll was right? I mean, teams 20/21 should lose to teams 5/6. I know it never works out like this though.

[RabidRabbit]

North Dakota State and South Dakota State will probably will probably drop with their losses, since teams usually fall when they lose.

HOWEVER... if you previously had these teams ranked at #20 and #21, and they lost to #5 and #6, shouldn't that just mean your poll was right? I mean, teams 20/21 should lose to teams 5/6. I know it never works out like this though.

SDSU will drop out this week, and rightly so. However, their losses are to Iowa St., UNI (at UNI), a 3 OT loss to McNeese (at SDSU), and now Cal Poly (top 5). Their wins are over Youngstown, WIU, and Southland leader SFAustin. At 2-1 in MoValley, Jacks still have a GOOD SHOT at a 7-1 MoValley record, and possible auto-bid. They should, at worst, end up 6-6, (not so good) to 8-4 (playoff likely).

NDSU has ONLY the SIU win as good (Austin Peay, CCSU other wins), and have losses to YSU, UNI, WIU, Wyoming. With a 1-3 record in MoValley, and an 11 game season, it appears Bison are in a spoiler role from here out.

THE Citadel (xbowx Citdog) has 2 FBS losses, App St and Wofford losses in SoCon, and (IIRC) a DII win, so, they are likely eliminated from playoff eligibility.

Unfortunately for the MEAC, is they're worst than MoValley is getting quality wins OOC. Therefore, only the AQ will make the playoffs. xtwocentsx

[th0m]

Actually, The Citadel has only 1 FBS loss and 3 Socon losses along with a DII win, with games @Wofford and @Florida (among others) still remaining.

NDSU, SDSU and The Citadel all drop out of the poll this week (I think ballots containing losing teams in them will be rejected anyway, this was the case last week).

Yes SDSU has a chance to still win the MoValley, but as you said, have to run the table to do so. I don't see how you think they have a 'GOOD' shot at winning the auto-bid. They have a shot, yes, but a GOOD shot? How is running the table a good shot? Plus, SDSU does not control its own fate as they need UNI to drop a game, otherwise they lose the head-to-head tiebreaker for an auto-bid.

[RabidRabbit]

Actually, The Citadel has only 1 FBS loss and 3 Socon losses along with a DII win, with games @Wofford and @Florida (among others) still remaining.

Thanks for improving! xbowx xbowx

[ASU88]

I think it's pretty standard for a team that's barely in the poll to drop out if they lose. Even if they lose to a higher ranked team.

A team in the 22-25 spot simply can't lose and expect to remain in. They have to win their way back in.

[R.A.]

Should (5-2, 3-0) South Carolina State make the polls this week, even though they didn't play Saturday? The Bulldogs were after all, right on the out side of being the number 25th team in the polls last week.

#24 Hampton (5-1, 4-0) made the polls coming off their Bye Week also.

Citadel, South Dakota State, and North Dakota State, are all 3-4 teams. They should drop out of the polls on Monday. South Carolina State and Hampton both should be ranked on Monday in all of the major polls, heading into Saturday's battle between the Pirates and the Bulldogs in Orangeburg, SC.

[ASU88]

Should (5-2, 3-0) South Carolina State make the polls this week, even though they didn't play Saturday? The Bulldogs were after all, right on the out side of being the number 25th team in the polls last week.

Hampton made the polls coming off their Bye Week also.

Possibly. If you're a bye team sitting just out of the poll, and a couple of teams clinging to lower spots in the poll lose, you could expect to get in, though you might also expect to get leapfrogged by a team just behind you that had a big win.

Not sure why this matters, though. Being in the poll at any given point doesn't count for much. Gotta win enough to make the playoffs and then win when you get there.

[R.A.]

Not sure why this matters, though. Being in the poll at any given point doesn't count for much. Gotta win enough to make the playoffs and then win when you get there.

We wanna know how the voters feel about us throughout the season.

[IaaScribe]

Lafayette should be ranked above both MEAC teams. It's already been established that Hampton is the most overrated team in the country when you compare computers vs. human rankings.

[bigchocolate]

Lafayette should be ranked above both MEAC teams. It's already been established that Hampton is the most overrated team in the country when you compare computers vs. human rankings.

1AA, This is not a true statement. Hampton is not as overated as NDSU, That Military school in SC, and a few others. The MEAC has two of the worst teams in the country (NCA&T and Howard) add transitional Winston-Salem State this ultimately drags their SOS and conference ratings numerically. Hampton and SC State are both better than several of the team ahead of them. When the reason for keeping teams in the top 25 is because they lost to another overated team from one of the historic power conferences is biased and the readers of this forum know. This has been proven over and over again this season. When half of the playoff field is from 2 conferences, I'll gladly take the odds of one of those teams winning the NC. For Example NDSU and Delaware are simply shells of the teams fielded in 2007, yet these teams were kept in the top 25 for the last 7 weeks. Hampton played SIU to a tD on the road and won all the games they were suppose to but obviously this carrys no merit. Teams get better and teams get worst...I guess this doesn't apply to HBCU's and newbies like Weber and Central Arkansas. xbowx

[R.A.]

Lafayette should be ranked above both MEAC teams. It's already been established that Hampton is the most overrated team in the country when you compare computers vs. human rankings.

Yeah, okay buddy... ask some Southern Illinois folks how "overrated" Hampton is...

[IaaScribe]

Not smack. Look at the computers vs. the humans. The humans have Hampton in the Top 25. The computers barely have Hampton in the top 50. Overrated.

[ravens]

Should (5-2, 3-0) South Carolina State make the polls this week, even though they didn't play Saturday? The Bulldogs were after all, right on the out side of being the number 25th team in the polls last week.

#24 Hampton (5-1, 4-0) made the polls coming off their Bye Week also.

Citadel, South Dakota State, and North Dakota State, are all 3-4 teams. They should drop out of the polls on Monday. South Carolina State and Hampton both should be ranked on Monday in all of the major polls, heading into Saturday's battle between the Pirates and the Bulldogs in Orangeburg, SC.

I agree. Both should make the poll. After Saturday the winner rises and the loser drops out.

[Bulldog87]

As a Bulldog I don't want to go into this game ranked. Let Hampton move up a couple of notches and come to Orangeburg overconfident while The Dawgs feel that we have something to prove. One poster had a 10-2 SCSU team hosting a 8-3 Wofford squad. The last 3 times that we've played Wofford all of the games have been very close(SCSU lost all 3). I'd love to see a SCSU vs Wofford,Furman,GSU or Citadel playoff matchup. We aren't ready for ASU yet although a trip to Boone would be nice for the scenery. We have to get through Hampton and Del State first before we start thinking about the playoffs.