William & Mary Tribe at New Hampshire Wildcats Official Game Thread

[smcwildcat]

It's homecoming weekend in Durham, and a huge game for both teams, can New Hampshire show that they are indeed the #4 team in the nation or will a dangerous W&M team come and keep the curse alive.

Impact players: UNH
R.J. Toman
Scott Sicko
Sean Jellison/ Bobby Simpson

John Clements
Hugo Souza
Dino Vasso
Matt Parent

Tom Manning?.... injury updates: Chad Kackert -out JT Wright-out


W&M:
Phillips, will he play?
The other RJ
Riggins
Grimes and Varno

thoughts?

[smcwildcat]

sorry duhh boyle also reppin the 603

[UNHWILDCATS05]

According to the paper today, it appears Kackert is possible to play, Parent and Clements will play and J.T. is doubtful.

[smcwildcat]

are you a former player?... dont wanna sound sketch but... also Im 100% sure kackert will not play

[R3TRO]

http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20081009-SPORTS-810090421

[UNHWILDCATS05]

are you a former player?... dont wanna sound sketch but... also Im 100% sure kackert will not play

Nope, I only know what I read in the paper. (http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20081009-SPORTS-810090421)

[UNHWILDCATS05]

http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20081009-SPORTS-810090421

ahh.. beat me to it...

[Tribe4SF]

Tribe still doesn't know if Phillips and Riggins will play. Riggins and Grimes are a new breed of running back for W&M, and I think we need both for this game. Keeping up with UNH will be alot easier if we have some semblance of a rushing game to help with time of possession.

If Phillips can't go, this will indeed be the battle of the "RJs". Similar style QBs.

[KAUMASS]

Kackart is questionable for this game...I think he sits this one out unless UNH is losing and needs a spark..I don't think it's worth the risk for UNH for this game..

[WrenFGun]

UNH has not beaten W&M since 1998. If someone is capable of playing, they'll play. UNH has missed Wright's size at WR considerably at times, so I'm looking forward to him being healthy.

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

are you a former player?... dont wanna sound sketch but... also Im 100% sure kackert will not play


not sure I'd go out on that kind of a limb on my 6th post

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

Kackart is questionable for this game...I think he sits this one out unless UNH is losing and needs a spark..I don't think it's worth the risk for UNH for this game..


I don't think I'd wait too long.

I'm sure his pt will be way down.

And by "I'm sure" I mean "I think" and by "I think" I mean "I'm not sure"

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

It's homecoming weekend in Durham, and a huge game for both teams, can New Hampshire show that they are indeed the #4 team in the nation or will a dangerous W&M team come and keep the curse alive.

Impact players: UNH
R.J. Toman
Scott Sicko
Sean Jellison/ Bobby Simpson

John Clements
Hugo Souza
Dino Vasso
Matt Parent

Tom Manning?.... injury updates: Chad Kackert -out JT Wright-out


W&M:
Phillips, will he play?
The other RJ
Riggins
Grimes and Varno

thoughts?


Almost forgot.......welcome smcwildcatxsmileyclapx

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

Any W&M folks making the trip north?
The weather should be great.
The foliage is top notch.
A great time to be in NH.

xbeerchugx xbeerchugx xbeerchugx xbeerchugx xbeerchugx

[R3TRO]

UNH has not beaten W&M since 1998. If someone is capable of playing, they'll play. UNH has missed Wright's size at WR considerably at times, so I'm looking forward to him being healthy.

Hopefully Kevon Mason will get in there for a few more looks to see what he is capable of. He'll definitely be a size factor.

[UNHFootballAlum]

Originally Posted by smcwildcat
are you a former player?... dont wanna sound sketch but... also Im 100% sure kackert will not play

smcwildcat - unless you heard it directly from Coach Macs mouth, you cannot be sure Chad will not play...Yes I am a former player

[smcwildcat]

haha maube i have?.... idk I thought u were

whos W&M top defensive players?

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

haha maube i have?.... idk I thought u were

whos W&M top defensive players?

Nice avatar.....photo from last year?

[UNHFootballAlum]

W&M DE is their top player. Secondary is can also be good, but some of that is due to pass rush...SMC are you a former player?

[rcny46]

Kackart is questionable for this game...I think he sits this one out unless UNH is losing and needs a spark..I don't think it's worth the risk for UNH for this game..

I agree.I can't believe he'd be 100% after just a couple of weeks,and when a knee is involved,and if he can't go full tilt,why take the chance of doing further damage.I think they have enough weapons to win this game without him.If he is really ready to go,then my worries are unfounded-let him loose!

[Tribe4SF]

haha maube i have?.... idk I thought u were

whos W&M top defensive players?

Top defensive players are DT Sean Lissemore, DE Adrian Tracy, LB Josh Rutter, CB Derek Cox, and SS David Caldwell. Tribe has some defensive depth this year for the first time in awhile with 9 DLs, 6 LBs, and 7 DBs in the rotation. We were playing 8 DBs, but CB Terrell Wells is now out for the year.

[smcwildcat]

nahh im not a former player but ive been around unh football for around sean mcdonnells years....the pass rush worries me most

[Tribe4SF]

....the pass rush worries me most

Yours, or ours?

[smcwildcat]

ours...

[UNHFootballAlum]

Getting off to a good start early in the game worries me. If they do, they will be in the game until the end.

[WMTribe90]

I'm guessing ti will be the battle of the RJs. Laycock will start RJ unless Phillips is 100%. I think UNH is a slightly better match-up for WM than VU last week. If we play like we did the second half of last week from the start this week it will be a tight game. Agree with T4SF, Grimes has been stellar, but we could really use Riggins to take the running game up a notch.

[R3TRO]

Friday night bump! Can't wait for the game tomorrow! I'm heading out now to start pre-gaming for the tailgating in the morning. See you all in the morning!

[santosballnewhampshire]

just got conformation that kackert is ready to go if need be!
xnodx

[OxSoxUNH05]

Homecoming '08 it's gonna be great sunny day! Go 'Cats!

[UNHFan99]

rumors are the crowd they are expecting is between 13,000 to 15,000.
Not bad when considering it sits 7,000.

[UNH_BLUE]

What time is kickoff?

Any free TV coverage?

[santosballnewhampshire]

update... kackert will play 12-15 plays..... inside scoop

[UNHWildCats]

xcoolx

[UNHWildCats]

game audio

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/ver/268.0/popup/index.php?rn=9033886&ch=9555259&cl=10140717

[UNHWildCats]

Kackert expected to get SOME playing time, but is not expected to start.

Parent is expected to start. Clements is expected to play aswell.


Parachutists come landing on the 45 yard line for entertainment...

[UNHWildCats]

Expected to be great weather for the game.

[UNHWildCats]

Keys to the game:

RJ Toman and ability to make reads.


Defense, contain the run.


Defense, red zone D

[UNHWildCats]

Tribe wins toss and defers to second half.

[jennifer03878]

W&M won the toss and defers to the 2nd

[UNHWildCats]

Kackert takes kick from the 5 and takes it to the 28.

[UNHWildCats]

Simpson in the back.

hand to Simpson out to the 36.

[UNHWildCats]

2nd and 2

Simpson to the 43 for a first down

[UNHWildCats]

Toman completes to Negron

Toman completes to Negron to the 42 1st down cats

[UNHWildCats]

Complete to Boyle to the 34

[UNHWildCats]

UNH going quickly.

2nd down 1

incomplete deep to Sicko.

[UNHWildCats]

3rd and 1

Jellison out wide


complete to Boyle to the 27 1st down cats

[UNHWildCats]

Kackert in

completes to O'Brien to the 16

1st down UNH

[UNHWildCats]

1st and 10

kackert runs for no gain...

flag

holding UNH

[UNHWildCats]

1st and 20

Simpson runs for about 4


2nd and 16

completes to Negron to the 15

[UNHWildCats]

3rd and 9

Toman runs down to the 12.


4th down

FG attempt


28 yard attempt


Decker holds



wide right

[jennifer03878]

a fast march down the field is all for not as UNH misses a chip shot field goal. Now W&M is doing their own march down the field

[UNHWildCats]

tribe driivng down field

1st and 10 from the 11

[UNHWildCats]

2nd and 7

touchdown w&m

[jennifer03878]

TD W&M

[UNHWildCats]

Kackert lets the kick bounce out of bounds

[UNHWildCats]

1st and 10 at the 40

O'Brien runs it to the 44

[UNHWildCats]

Toman 6-7 48 yards on the first drive

[UNHWildCats]

2nd and 6

Fox runs to the 48 for 4 yards

[UNHWildCats]

3rd and 2

Toman runs ahead for the first down

[UNHWildCats]

1st and 10

Simpson runs for no gain at the W&M 42

[UNHWildCats]

2nd and 10

Toman runs down to the 36

[UNHWildCats]

3rd and 4

Boyle down to the 27 1st down

[UNHWildCats]

1st and 10

direct snap to Boyle to the 26

[UNHWildCats]

Kackert to the 15 1st down

[UNHWildCats]

toman complete to the 3 to Mason

[hoopsstar22]

Outstanding play by play.

ty

[UNHWildCats]

1st and Goal

Toman takes it in

TOUCHDOWN WILDCATS

[UNHWildCats]

7-7 with 3:02 remaining 1st qtr

[UNH_BLUE]

Sweet.

[Syntax Error]

please post score updates in the SCORE thread to help all AGSers keep up with the latest scores xthumbsupx

[UNHWildCats]

Manning kicks

returned to the 27

[UNHWildCats]

Phillips pass intercepted by Clements.

[jennifer03878]

TD UNH!!!!

[UNHWildCats]

1st and 10 at 29 for UNH

[jennifer03878]

Interception UNH!

[UNHWildCats]

Boyle looked to pass threw it away

[UNHWildCats]

Simpson for 2 yard loss

[UNH_BLUE]

Let's not waste a golden opportunity

[UNHWildCats]

3rd and 12

Toman to Boyle to the 4 apparently a great catch

[UNH_BLUE]

Yes!!!!

[UNHWildCats]

Jellison for no gain

[UNHWildCats]

2nd and goal

Toman briongs it in


TOUCHDOWN WILDCATS

[UNHWildCats]

14-7 UNH :57 remains 1st qtr

[UNHWildCats]

Manning kicks

taken at 10

returns it to the 29

[UNHWildCats]

1st and 10

run out to the 41

[jennifer03878]

TD UNH! now 14-7 UNH

[UNHWildCats]

1st and 10 Tribe

Grimes runs for no gain


End 1st Qtr

New Hampshire 14 William & Mary 7

[UNHWildCats]

2nd and 10

Phillips completesto the UNH 40

[UNHWildCats]

1st and 10

Phillips intercepted by Vasso

[UNHWildCats]

1st and 10 on the 46

Simpson runs for 3 yards

[UNHWildCats]

2nd and 7

Toman completes to Sicko for 8 yards

[UNH_BLUE]

1st and 10

Phillips intercepted by Vasso

Fantastic!!

[UNHWildCats]

1st and 10

Toman completes to Sicko for 3 yards

[UNHWildCats]

2nd down

Toman completes to O'Brien to the 23 1st down cats

W&M cant stop them at all

[UNHWildCats]

1st and 10

flag

Fasle start


1st and 15

Toman completes to Mohammed

[UNHWildCats]

Toman to O'Brien

3rd and 6

[UNHWildCats]

3rd and 6

Jellison gone to the 5

1st down cats

[UNH_BLUE]

Nice job Jellison. Keep wearing down that W&M D.

[UNHWildCats]

1st and goal

Toman for 3 yards


2nd and goal

Boyle runs for a 1 yard loss

flag

[UNHWildCats]

Holding UNH


2 and goal from 12

[UNHWildCats]

2nd and goal

flag


illegal shift on UNH


2nd and goal from 17

Kackert runs for 6 yards

[UNHWildCats]

3rd and goal from 11

Toman completes to sicko to the 1

4th down

[UNHWildCats]

gotta go for TD


timeout Tribe

[UNHWildCats]

Toman 15-16 137 yards

[UNHWildCats]

Northeastern 14, UMass 7 :D

[UNHWildCats]

4th and goal from 1

Toman gets picked off in the endzone, tribe player brings it out and gets taken down at the 3... big mistake

[UNHWildCats]

1st and 10

Grimes runs for 2 yards

[UNHWildCats]

2nd and 8

Grimes runs for 3 yards

[UNHWildCats]

3rd and 5 Tribe

Phillips completes for 3 yard loss

4th down

[UNHWildCats]

4th and 8

Miller punts..


Boyle takes it at the 44 for no return

[UNHWildCats]

1st and 10

Toman to Negron for 29 yards

[UNHWildCats]

1st and 10

Toman runs for 3 yards

[UNHWildCats]

2nd and 7

Simpson for 3 yards

[UNHWildCats]

3rd and 3

Boyle runs it in


TOUCHDOWN WILDCATS

[UNH_BLUE]

Yes!! Mike Boyle!!

TD!!

[UNHWildCats]

21-7 UNH 4:36 remians 2nd qtr

[UNHWildCats]

Manning kicks

taken at the 2

Grimes brings it to the 18

[UNHWildCats]

1st and 10

Grimes runs for 6 yards

[UNHWildCats]

2nd and 4

Grimes for 4 yards 1st down tribe

[dwtime]

Nice run by Toman

[dwtime]

15 yd facemask on W&W

[dwtime]

2nd and 7 on the W&W 41 with about 30 sec left.

[dwtime]

1st half ends UNH up 21-7

[art vandelay]

how many people are there

[UNHWildCats]

radio guy estimated 14k between stands and tailgating

[UNH_BLUE]

TD by W&M brought back. Laundry on the field.

[UNH_BLUE]

TD Tribe.

21-14 UNH

NH moving with the ball again.

[UNH_BLUE]

Manning misses a 44 yd FG.

Still 21-14

[art vandelay]

can we get some pass D

[art vandelay]

youv got to be kidding me

[UNH_BLUE]

Quiet crowd.

[art vandelay]

quiet in here too
TD UNH 28-21

[art vandelay]

Wow lets try our best to not get a lead

[UNH_BLUE]

28-28.

Sicko just caught his 8th catch of the day. UNH now has to punt it away after failing on 3rd and 1.

[UNH_BLUE]

31-28 W&M. UNH inside Tribe territory.

[art vandelay]

TD UNH
35-31

[art vandelay]

oh nop
34-31

[UNH_BLUE]

Touchdown Boyle. Great 33 yard pass from Toman!

[UNH_BLUE]

Missed PAT. Bad snap. Huge miss. 34-31 good guys.

[bigbuck34]

How much time left???

[hoopsstar22]

Any chance there may be some UNH D played here?

[UNHWildCats]

interception UNH

[UNHWildCats]

flag roughing the passer

[UNH_BLUE]

flag roughing the passer

I knew it was too good to be true.

[UNHWildCats]

3rd and 9 3:14 remaining

[bigbuck34]

Anywhere to see the game streaming?

[UNH_BLUE]

Crowd getting into it now.

[UNHWildCats]

BOGUS

[UNH_BLUE]

17 seconds left at their 45. 2 TO's left.

[TheTribeHasSpoken]

YEAH TRIBE!

[GrizRchattybound]

Sack!

[TheTribeHasSpoken]

INTERCEPTION! TRIBE KNOCKS OFF #4!!!!!!!!!

[GrizRchattybound]

Pick- Game set and match. Congrats W&M!!

[UNH_BLUE]

INTERCEPTION! TRIBE KNOCKS OFF #4!!!!!!!!!

More like UNH knocked off themselves.

[Skjellyfetti]

More like UNH knocked off themselves.

Not really. xrolleyesx

Congrats William and Mary!

[hoopsstar22]

Should I make a note that UNH's kicker sucks, or was this just a random poor game?

I certainly didn't expect -7 kicking points.

[UNHWildCats]

Not really. xrolleyesx

Congrats William and Mary!
int from 1 yard line, 2 missed FGs including one chip shot, missed XP UNH loses by 4....

[EmeryZach]

Congrats W&M! Big win.

[rcny46]

Any chance there may be some UNH D played here?

Evidently not.It was a pretty poor performance by a unit that knew what they had to do ,and couldn't.Same old story I guess.A lot of other mistakes as well-just an overall pathetic performance. xsmhx

[santosballnewhampshire]

****, terrible call by the officials twice cost the game

[TheTribeHasSpoken]

Somebody call the WAHHHHmbulance!

[Rob Iola]

****, terrible call by the officials twice cost the game
2 bad calls = 31 2nd half points, 2 missed FGs, and a missed PAT?

Sorry dude, I was you're biggest supporter (had UNH as my #1 in the poll), but yew let Bill & Mary come into your house and bop you around in the 2nd half - don't pin this one on the refs...

[WMTribe90]

int from 1 yard line, 2 missed FGs including one chip shot, missed XP UNH loses by 4....

WM gave up two interceptions and was horrible with our kickoff coverage. Both teams made mistakes. Give WM some credit though, we didn't quit and racked up more yards than UNH.

Great game!

[WrenFGun]

Couple of quick questions...how bad was the roughing the passer? Didn't see it at the game as I was watching the throw? Also, was Phillips over the line. I thought he threw it from the eleven and the LOS was the 12, but what do I know...they would've scored on the next play, anyway.

Congrats to W&M. Both teams can't play a lick of defense. UNH was outcoached today.

[WrenFGun]

My thoughts, for what it was worth. UNH should've been up, at the very least, 27-7 entering half time. The botched short FG and the failed 4th down conversion at the goaline (UNH may have the worst goaline set in history) were responsible for a still acceptable 21-7 lead.

In the second half, what an embarrassment. UNH's inept coaching staff continues to insist on giving FIFTEEN yard cushion to both WR's, and yet, does not blitz or put any pash rush on the quarterback. They also do not bother to cover either RB coming out of the backfield. Regardless of whether or not Phillips was over the LOS on that TD pass, I have EXTREME confidence W&M gets in the endzone on that drive.

The problem with UNH, IMO, is the coaching. A horrendous playcall on third and goal in the first half cost them a touchdown. Embarrassingly conservative playcall on 4th and inches (after a rushed play call on 3rd and inches where Simpson was not surprisingly stuffed) where they chose to punt when W&M had gone for it in a previous instance was a significant reason for losing the game. Knowing the defense wasn't going to get a stop, you had to go for it in that situation. W&M played to win, UNH played not to lose.

Now, I've been saying it for three years, this glorified nickel/prevent defense needs to go. I want to see press coverage and more blitzing. I want to see Jackson, Parent and Ware on the field at the same time. It's obvious this prevent and hope for the offense to make a mistake nonsense isn't working. Phillips had literally seven seconds numerous times to pick and choose where he was going. Enough is enough. It's getting ridiculous. If you're going to get burned, do it while giving yourself a chance to make some plays, and do it while getting your offense the ball more. Good grief.

[Tribe4SF]

Way to go Tribe! Another big day for Jonathan Grimes (23 carries for 144, 8 catches for 47, 282 all purpose), who is starting to look like the CAA Rookie-of-the-Year. If the Tribe D can learn to play a little in the first half, this team is going to be pretty good.

[rcny46]

WREN,

I was going to post on this thread and vent my frustration.Now I don't have to-you said it for me.I'm disgusted.I couldn't believe some of the things I was seeing.Oh well,there's always next week in Boston.

[R3TRO]

What a painful second half to watch. It seemed like first and second downs for W&M were just free plays cause they knew they could throw for a first on third and whatever (long or short, didn't matter). To give up 31 second half points was just a big let down. xnonono2x

p.s. Add some more F$!&@#G seating....the game time crowd could have been so much bigger.

[hawkeye]

int from 1 yard line, 2 missed FGs including one chip shot, missed XP UNH loses by 4....

OOOVER ated

[UNH_Alum_In_CT]

I'm not going to pin this one on the refs and I am going to give W&M lots of credit for perseverance and executing in the second half. Frankly, I felt UNH lost the game more than W&M won it because they didn't bury the Tribe in the first half when they had the opportunity to do so. With good execution in the first half they could have scored 10-14 additional points without exaggerating much. Not putting those points on the board killed the Wildcats.

Too many bad penalties that killed drives -- that holding call in the scrum near the goal line when the play wasn't going anywhere, the holding after the runner went by the blockers for a big third down conversion, etc. xmadx xmadx xmadx

A couple things to repsond to Wren:


I saw blitzers often during the game, especially John Clements. Might be why there is the soft coverage when the free safety has blitzed?
Couldn't tell if the pass was over the LOS because I was at the opposite 20 yard line.
Didn't see the rough either even though it was right in front of me. I was watching the ball.

[Monarch History]

Great game for the Tribe. Like Tribe4SF said, Grimes is a beast and game changer. I'm interested in seeing how Delaware responds next week after their humiliating defeat at the hands of Maine. xrolleyesx If the Tribe keeps improving and winning each week, by the time they play Richmond and JMU they will legitimately be considered a playoff contender.xthumbsupx