Hobo Day Game Thread - SDSU hosts McNeese St

[RabidRabbit]

Jacks down 7 at end of 1.

Jacks driving for TD, third 15.

Pass complete to 15.

FG into 20 Mph wind. Line Drive...

Bounced out.

Cowboys take over at SDSU 20.

McNeese St. 14, SDSU 7

[RabidRabbit]

McNeese on 2nd/15, does Screen, which Jacks run out at 41, 3rd/3.

Inc Pass. MSU to punt for 1st time in game.

MSU downs at McNeese 5. Nice Coffin corner by MSU.

[RabidRabbit]

MSU player covering punt hurts ankle, dragging it as goes off field.

Minett gets .5 yd on 1st.

2nd/10 - Minett to 7

3rd/8 -

[patssle]

Go McNeese!

[RabidRabbit]

JaRon drags toe to catch at 20 for 1st down

BOMB TO JARON FOR A JACKS TD, AND TIE FOR #1 RECEPTIONS AT SDSU.

pat GOOD

MSU 14, SDSU 14 at 9 min left in 2nd Q

[Prominentwon]

McNeese sounds as if they are moving up and down the field at will. Just keep shooting themselves in the foot/not making easy catches.

[RabidRabbit]

McNeese using good mix of passes to move to Jacks 37

Sweep by S. Whitehead to Jacks 18.

[RabidRabbit]

Jacks nearly Sack, but dump to Inc stops.

2nd/10 Fourroux runs up center for TD.

PAT is good.

McNeese 21, SDSU 14 at 7:27 in 2nd Q

[Prominentwon]

you got this :)

[RabidRabbit]

Jacks start at 20 after wind aided KO sails into EZ

Duffy runs to 27.

2nd Duffy run to SDSU 31 for a first down.

[RabidRabbit]

1st/10 Jacks under center Hand off to Duffy,

3rd/7 complete to Fox? Just in at SDSU 47/ 1st down

Berry scrambles at passes to Fox at MSU 27.

Duffy to 24.

2/7

[Prominentwon]

2 BS calls in a row gives Jack good field position. Don't forget to add that.

[Bison311]

Looks like this one is going to be a shootout

[RabidRabbit]

Jacks avoids 3 sacks and runs for his life to 23.

3rd/6 Gunning to Harris at MSU 12. Flag offsides MSU.

[Houndawg]

2 BS calls in a row gives Jack good field position. Don't forget to add that.

Must be a dakota thing, siu had a couple of bad calls in the first half that cost points.

[Prominentwon]

Wow. Refs tearing us a new one. Incredible.

[RabidRabbit]

1st/10 MSU 12.

Flag on Jacks, Ill Pro 1st/15 from MSU 17

Duffy to MSU 7, 3rd/5

[Prominentwon]

Must be a dakota thing, siu had a couple of bad calls in the first half that cost points.


Clear interception called out of bounds.

[Prominentwon]

Thank the refs for this drive. What BS. 3 calls absolutely blown including a turnover.

[RabidRabbit]

Berry to Harris JACKRABBITS TD!

PAT GOOD

SDSU 21, MSU 21 1:23 LEFT IN HALF

[Rabbit3467]

Clear interception called out of bounds.

Are u kidding me, nobody came up with the ball.

[Prominentwon]

Are u kidding me, nobody came up with the ball.


unless the radio guys are blind, they said they looked at the reply and said it was an absolute interception. so take it fwiw whatever I can only go by what I'm hearing.

[RabidRabbit]

Penalty on MSU during KO start from 12.

Pass to 38.

[RabidRabbit]

Pass to Mangen, complete at MSU 47, 2nd/1

Shotgun to back out for a 1st to SDS 45.

Next to Jacks 32.

Down to 29 sec.

Rolled to Jacks 23, 2nd/1 MSU TO

[Rabbit3467]

unless the radio guys are blind, they said they looked at the reply and said it was an absolute interception. so take it fwiw whatever I can only go by what I'm hearing.

Im watching the game, u must be getting some homer radio announcers. The refs have actually called a really good game. If anything on the pick it could have been simultaneous catch going to the offense but they both lost it.

[RabidRabbit]

MSU shoots for EZ, too long.

24 sec left.

[RabidRabbit]

Fourroux on QB draw gets 1st. Spike to stop clock at 16 sec left in half.

2nd/10 Inc pass to EZ.

[RabidRabbit]

3rd/10 incomplete to Kenland out of BF.

FG 36 yd attempt with wind behind.

Jacks take TO

[RabidRabbit]

FG attempt is.....

NG wide right!!!!


Jacks/Cowboys at end of half. 21-21

[Prominentwon]

FG attempt is.....

NG wide right!!!!


Jacks/Cowboys at end of half. 21-21

Cowboys are really just not capitalizing when they need to be.

[RabidRabbit]

Both teams have scored two TD's on good marches, and 1 TD off turnover, Each has missed 30+ yd FG.

As expected, this game is DOGFIGHT.

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any free audio link?

[Rabbit3467]

five bucks at gojacks.com unless McNeese has one.

[RowdyPenguin]

any free audio link?

http://www.gator995.com/main.php

You can go there and click on the listen live link for the McNeese broadcast.

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http://www.gator995.com/common/gap_streamer.php

[RabidRabbit]

Jacks receive 2nd half KO, and after 3 & out, MSU takes over at MSU 45.

Fourroux throws home run ball.....out, incomplete

McNeese on 3rd/10, SACK!!!!

Flag on MSU, Jacks decline, 2nd MSU punt today.

[RabidRabbit]

Angles it out at 8. Nice punt MSU.

[RabidRabbit]

Minett squeezes thru hole for 7.

2nd/3 run 2.

3rd/1 Minett plows to 20 for 1st.

[RabidRabbit]

Minett gets pass out of BF, at 25, jukes to 40.

1st down. Pass to Harris, dropped, but PInterferance called.

1st at MSU 45.

[blackfordpu]

Who's ball?

[RabidRabbit]

Minett takes late HO, to 43.

2/8 Minett turns corner rt for 7.

3/1 Minett plows to 33 off line plunge.

1/10 Screen to Steffen for 3

2/7

[RabidRabbit]

MSU blitz leads to inc pass by Berry

3/8 to Steffen at 25.

4/2. JACKS GOING FOR IT. TO Jacks just b4 play clock zeros

[RabidRabbit]

MSU takes over at MSU 25. Inc pass by Berry to FOx.

[RabidRabbit]

Penlen breaks a big run to Jacks 29.

[RabidRabbit]

Steve Whitehead takes direct gun to 27.

Slant pass to SDS 8 for 1st /goal.

[RabidRabbit]

HO to Penlen Stuffed at 8

15,358 announced attendence.

Fourroux fumbles and falls on it at 11.

KNOCKED DOWN pass at LOS.

FG from 18, 28 yd attempt. GOOD

MSU 24, SDS 21 at 7 min left in 3rd.

[RabidRabbit]

1:32 left in 3rd. Sorry.:o

[RabidRabbit]

KO out of EZ, Jacks start at 20

Duffy busts thru line for 8.

Berry play action to Steffen to 40 + Late hit on Berry.

To MSU 45, Jacks 1st/10

[RabidRabbit]

Berry lots of time, to Harris to 30. END OF 3RD Q.

MSu 24, SDSU 21

[RabidRabbit]

Berry ho to Duffy, nailed in BF.

Jacks 2nd/13 at MSU 33. Jacks going w/wind.

MSU gets sack at 39.

3rd 19.

Come ON JACKS!!!!

[RabidRabbit]

Jacks take 2nd TO.

[RabidRabbit]

Jacks Berry escapes sack, pass to Fox at MSU 23.

FG attempt.

NG.

C'boys take over.

Penlen takes for 8.

Whitehead follows BIG FB for 1st at 39.

[RabidRabbit]

Brittle catches pass at Jacks 47 where downed immediately.

Penlen tries to turn corner for 3.

[RabidRabbit]

Fourroux QB draws to 30. Nice run DoGGONEIT.

[RabidRabbit]

Whitehead in motion gets 6.

2nd /3

Ill pro. on MSu 2nd/8

fourroux flushed of to Brittle to 25.

BRODIE INTERCEPTS AND ALMOST BREAKS IT TO 29, HORSECOLLAR TACKLE TO 14 MSU.

[blackfordpu]

I can't see the game but the MSU announcers just said the the Pokes have outplayed the Jackrabbits all game. Is that accurate?

[RabidRabbit]

Minett to 10 on 1st.

2nd/6 from 10

Minett to 6.

3rd/2 LETS GO JACKS

Minett to 5, and set back!

4th/1

FG unit coming in.

SDSU ties it up 24-24 with 10+ min left.

[RabidRabbit]

I can't see the game but the MSU announcers just said the the Pokes have outplayed the Jackrabbits all game. Is that accurate?

Pokes have more yards on O, but many more errors.

KO run out of EZ and tripped up at 9.

[RabidRabbit]

Penlen corralled at LOS

2/10 at 9

Fourroux escapes safety, and breaks out to 17. 3/2 INC

4th /2 Punt into wind.

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please post score updates in the SCORE THREAD

[RabidRabbit]

Brodie fields punt at 50, covered at MSU 48.

Minett gets about 1.

2/nd /9 batted down pass at LOS

3rd & 9 long to Steffen, Just long.

[Rabbit3467]

please post score updates in the SCORE THREAD

Youve been posting it. Whats the problem.

[blackfordpu]

please post score updates in the SCORE THREAD

And here because I don't feel like flip flopping threads.

[slostang]

What is the score and time??? Thank you.

[RabidRabbit]

Punt - Whitehead fair catches at 10.

SDSU penalty to MSU 25.

1st/10 from there.

Penlen run shut down at LOs

2nd/10 pass for 5 yd to 30. 2:10 left in game.

[RabidRabbit]

QB past line of scrimmage, but officials missed. Whitehead received for first.

Fourroux carries, sacked for -2. at MSU 43.

TO MSU

[slostang]

Score and time?????

[RabidRabbit]

Fourroux guns, dropped pass.

1:11 left, 3rd/12 from MSU 43.

OUT at SDSU 46, MSU penalty, MSU 43, 3rd down over.

[NorCalJack]

Tied at 24 apiece.

45 seconds left

[RabidRabbit]

Fourroux FUMBLES, Penlen picks up advanced to JACKS 48, 4th/3.

TO MSU.

[NorCalJack]

4th and 2 for Mc Nesse St.

40.3 seconds left.

[RabidRabbit]

MSU is GOIN G for it.

[slostang]

Heading out to the Cal Poly tailgate. Sounds like a great game.

[NorCalJack]

McNesse St. tried to draw SDSU off side. McNeese St. calls time out.

Ball at SDSU 48

[RabidRabbit]

4th/3. Trying to draw Jacks off. Doesn't work. LAST POKES TO

[NorCalJack]

SDSU ball at 21 yard line. 34 seconds left.

[blackfordpu]

At whose 21?

[RabidRabbit]

40 sec left, MSU Punts into wind.

34 sec left, punt out at Jacks 21.

79 yds for a Jacks TD. LETS GO LIKE LAST WEEK JACKS>

Under 20 sec.

Minett two throws to SDSU 32.

1st /10

[NorCalJack]

SDSU ball on their 30 yard line.

8 seconds left.

[RabidRabbit]

Inc Pass.

8 sec left.

[NorCalJack]

We are going to OT.

[RabidRabbit]

Pass to Gant complete, AND THAT'S end of REG/ OT here we come.

[blackfordpu]

OT

[JohnStOnge]

This is ridiculous. I just saw a graphic that said McNeese had 494 yards of offense to SDSU's 326. The only thing that's kept SDSU in this game is McNeese mistakes. I hope they find some way to quit screwing up.

[RabidRabbit]

Jacks win toss. Taking with wind. Pokes get 1st offense.

[RabidRabbit]

Whitehead direct snap sweeps to 14. 1st/10

[RabidRabbit]

Penlen tripped up at 11. 2nd/6 in OT.

Gen Parnell bats down TD like throw.

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E X C I T I N G !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RabidRabbit]

3rd /6

Made 1st/goal at 4.

[crunifan]

C'mon Jacks! Win this for the Valley!

[Rabbit3467]

TD MSU kcik is good. 31-24

[RabidRabbit]

Penlen almost in. Downed inside 1

Fourroux sneaks for TD.

PAT is good.

McNeese 31, SDSU 24.

Jacks need TD in their OT shot to keep this going.

[RabidRabbit]

Berry to Fox for 7 by Jacks.

2nd/3 HUGE FACEMASK on SACK by MSU.

Jacks 1st and Goal at 9.

[JohnStOnge]

How many more "help SDSU" mistakes can McNeese MAKE!

[TexasTerror]

What's the deal, Rabbit? Just want the games against SLC opposition to make for exciting TV, eh?

[RabidRabbit]

Minett gets 1 to 8.

2nd /8 for TD.

Shotgun to FOX Ez, too far.

3rd/8.

[NorCalJack]

TD Jacks!!!!!!

[RabidRabbit]

MINETT STRETCHES BALL ACROSS Goaline for TD.

PAT good.

2nd OT coming up.

[msupokes1]

On McNeese first possession of OT our RB was in the endzone and was marked down at the one. The SDSU player was down at the 2 and they give him the TD. Hilarious.xoopsx

[RabidRabbit]

Shame somebody has to lose this game. TWO VERY EVENLY MATCHED TEAMS.

[blackfordpu]

MSU announcers whining about "questionable" calls against the Pokes.

[NorCalJack]

TD Jacks to Harris!!!!

Jacks up 38-31

[blackfordpu]

TD Jacks, wow! xeekx

[msupokes1]

MSU announcers whining about "questionable" calls against the Pokes.

If you were waching the game on the internet you would understand were they are coming from.

[RabidRabbit]

SDSU STARTS.

HOME RUN To JaRon TD JACKS 1 play.

PAT GOOD.

Jacks 38, Pokes 31.

MSU to get their shot.

[RabidRabbit]

Fourroux to Conner for 1st/10 at 14.

[NorCalJack]

Blackman sacks Ferioux

[patssle]

Shame somebody has to lose this game. TWO VERY EVENLY MATCHED TEAMS.

From the stats, sounds like MSU is the superior team, they are just letting you guys stay in the game due to penalties.

[X-Factor]

Go SDSU!!! Bring home a Marquee win for the moValley

[RabidRabbit]

FUMBLES SNAP, SACKED to 20.

2nd/16. Going to Conner,

BRODIE JUST MISSES INT.

[NorCalJack]

3rd and 16

illegal forward pass.

4th and 21

[blackfordpu]

Cowboys pick up first down.

[RabidRabbit]

Pass complete to 3. BUT BEYOND LOS

POKES lose down and back to 24.

4th and 20.

[RabidRabbit]

SHUT THEM DOWN JACKS!!1

[NorCalJack]

Time out Jacks!

[RabidRabbit]

JACKS take TO!!!!

Stay tuned....... 4th/20.

[blackfordpu]

Announcers blaming the Poke's situation on the officials.

[RowdyPenguin]

smart play by the jacks to try and intercept the ball on the last play of the game. First down for McNeese.

[blackfordpu]

How did they do that?

[NorCalJack]

Ball was deflected off a Jack into Whitehead's hands at the 1 yard line.

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that's the AA Whitehead

[NorCalJack]

TD McNeese State!!

[RabidRabbit]

This is game....

Rogers, SDSU misses INT, Whitehead gets bobble at 1.

1st/goal at 1

JACKS stop twice, Pokes backed to 6.

3rd /goal at 6.


TD on QB draw.

PAT good.

3rd OT coming up,.

[blackfordpu]

watch for the fake!

[NorCalJack]

Score tied at 38 to 38.

3rd OT, no more extra points. Each team must attempt 2-point conversion

[X-Factor]

is there any free audio I can listen to? :)

[DuckDuckGriz]

I would also like an audio link if there is one.

[NorCalJack]

Jacks nearly intercept another pass.

[NorCalJack]

QB draw. 1st down for MSU at the 14.

[RabidRabbit]

is there any free audio I can listen to? :)

Check pg 2. McNeese's is free.

[Rabbit3467]

http://www.gator995.com/common/gap_streamer.php

[MSUstudent]

http://player.streamtheworld.com/liveplayer.php?callsign=KNGTFM#Main

[msupokes1]

Touchdown Cowboys

[NorCalJack]

TD McNeese St. 2-point conversion coming up.

[DuckDuckGriz]

Thanks.

Cowboys score.

[blackfordpu]

Where is the defense in this game?

[RabidRabbit]

1st/10 at 14.

Penlen walks in for TD.

2pt conversion attempt required.

[NorCalJack]

MSU 46
SDSU 38

[RabidRabbit]

Pokes get 2.

Pokes 46-Jacks 38.

Jacks turn in 3rd OT.

[DuckDuckGriz]

2PC good. Wild.

[DuckDuckGriz]

My God this would be tiring.

[NorCalJack]

1st down Jacks to the 14.

[RabidRabbit]

Jacks run by Minett. 1 yd.

Jacks go 3 WO.

Shotgun

passes to Gant, Who advances to 14. 1st down Jacks.

[NorCalJack]

Minette for 3

2nd and 7 on 11

[NorCalJack]

Incomplete pass on 2nd down.

3rd and 7 on 11

[RabidRabbit]

Minett gets 3 yds with off tackle.

2nd &7 Intercepted but OB...

NEW LIFE JACKS.

[DuckDuckGriz]

MSU misses a chance to put that away .

[NorCalJack]

Jacks at the 2 yard line

1st and goal.

[NorCalJack]

TD Jacks!!!

Going for 2.

[RowdyPenguin]

Nice helmet throw by #30 for SDSU. McNeese must have seen that play on film because they knew it was coming.

[JohnStOnge]

I'm glad for the win but McNeese should've won that game by double digits. The number of unforced mistakes was absurd.

[blackfordpu]

well crap

[DuckDuckGriz]

Great game by both teams....

[NorCalJack]

Jacks try end around and gets stuffed.

MSU wins 46 to 44 in 3 Overtimes

[RabidRabbit]

Berry to Harris at 5. Advances to 2

Jacks 1st down at 2.

MINETT IN FOR TD.

Now for 2 pt conversion to go to 2nd 4 OT game in two years.

Tried end around.

McNEESE wins in 3OT 46-44.

GREAT (and lucky comeback in 2nd OT) Game McNeese!

[blackfordpu]

I'm glad for the win but McNeese should've won that game by double digits. The number of unforced mistakes was absurd.

Get off your high horse already. SDSU gave you all you could handle and more and you go and say something like that.

Classless.....xrolleyesx

[JohnStOnge]

Get off your high horse already. SDSU gave you all you could handle and more and you go and say something like that.

Classless.....xrolleyesx

Dude put yourself in my position as a fan of the team. McNeese had two passes intercepted when they were driving down to score that were returned to flip the field and SDSU got 10 points out of that. Plus McNeese was in scoring position when they happened so the swing was probably even bigger than that. When you look at the stats you're going to see that McNeese moved the ball a lot better than SDSU did but had a lot more penalties and more turnovers. If they play that game without those big deficits in turnover and penalties, they win easily.

It's very frustrating to watch a team do that.

That game, from my standpoint, should never have gotten to overtime. Again, McNeese should've won by double digits in regulation.

[RowdyPenguin]

Classless.....xrolleyesx

xlolx

[RabidRabbit]

Jacks had the interception and ******ed up in 2nd OT for the win.

Like I said earlier, it's a dam*ed shame that somebody had to lose. xbawlingx xbawlingx

I hope that isn't the game that costs Jacks a Play-off spot.

[Rabbit3467]

I'm glad for the win but McNeese should've won that game by double digits. The number of unforced mistakes was absurd.

Are u kidding me, McNeese should have LOST that game. We blew it and gave it to you. Congratulations cowboys. But U are dead wrong on your statement.

[msupokes1]

well crap

Yeah that's real classy too. And you don't even have a dog in the fight.

[RowdyPenguin]

Are u kidding me, McNeese should have LOST that game. We blew it and gave it to you. Congratulations cowboys. But U are dead wrong on your statement.

How should they have lost the game exactly?

[JohnStOnge]

Look, the only reason I'm saying what I'm saying is that I'm very disappointed in McNeese for all the mistakes they made. They had chance after chance to put that game on ice and blew them.

Yes, I know they were lucky on their second possession of overtime. But it should never have come to that.

[blackfordpu]

Dude put yourself in my position as a fan of the team. McNeese had two passes intercepted when they were driving down to score that were returned to flip the field and SDSU got 10 points out of that. Plus McNeese was in scoring position when they happened so the swing was probably even bigger than that. When you look at the stats you're going to see that McNeese moved the ball a lot better than SDSU did but had a lot more penalties and more turnovers. If they play that game without those big deficits in turnover and penalties, they win easily.

It's very frustrating to watch a team do that.

That game, from my standpoint, should never have gotten to overtime. Again, McNeese should've won by double digits in regulation.

You don't think SDSU's defense had anything to do with those interceptions? I could care less about offensive stats, it was a close, well fought game. Don't take anything away from the Rabbits by claiming your team is double digits better when you were just proven wrong.

[pokefan02]

This is the worst I,ve seen McNeese play since E Washington. We can't win the SLC playing this poorly

[RabidRabbit]

Dude put yourself in my position as a fan of the team. McNeese had two passes intercepted when they were driving down to score that were returned to flip the field and SDSU got 10 points out of that. Plus McNeese was in scoring position when they happened so the swing was probably even bigger than that. When you look at the stats you're going to see that McNeese moved the ball a lot better than SDSU did but had a lot more penalties and more turnovers. If they play that game without those big deficits in turnover and penalties, they win easily.

It's very frustrating to watch a team do that.

But those D plays by the Jacks were bread-n-butter successes. And the penalties by McNeese WERE STUPID. Hope MSU coaches work on those personal fouls that cost McNeese 60? yds.

Each team had great chances to close out victories earlier, but didn't.

If McNeese is 4th, Jacks are definitely up there too.

[Rabbit3467]

How should they have lost the game exactly?

UMMM??? Our linebacker should have knocked down the pass that was deflected off him for a catch on fourth down, and would have been the win. That 1. Second was the same linebacker should have intercepted the pass on the 3rd OT resulting in no score by MSU but he dropped it.

Should have, would have, could have. We lost, good game by the cowboys, but it takes a lot of nuts to say we should have been beat by double digits.

[JohnStOnge]

Are u kidding me, McNeese should have LOST that game. We blew it and gave it to you. Congratulations cowboys. But U are dead wrong on your statement.

If all you're looking at is overtime there is something to that. McNeese did get lucky with that fourth down catch on its second possesion. Of course, they may not have even been having to DO a second possession if they hadn't committed a face mask penalty on a sack on SDSU's first possession.

But the main thing is it should never have gotten to overtime. As I posted earlier, McNeese threw two interceptions when they were deep in SDSU territory that led to 10 SDSU points and also probably cost McNeese some points. Plus, the second interception like that happened after McNeese was on a good drive and put itself in a bad down and distance situation with yet ANOTHER penalty.

From the standpoint of a McNeese fan, that was an EXTREMELY sloppy game by the Cowboys.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Dude put yourself in my position as a fan of the team. McNeese had two passes intercepted when they were driving down to score that were returned to flip the field and SDSU got 10 points out of that. Plus McNeese was in scoring position when they happened so the swing was probably even bigger than that. When you look at the stats you're going to see that McNeese moved the ball a lot better than SDSU did but had a lot more penalties and more turnovers. If they play that game without those big deficits in turnover and penalties, they win easily.

It's very frustrating to watch a team do that.

That game, from my standpoint, should never have gotten to overtime. Again, McNeese should've won by double digits in regulation.

So the F what? They played that way because they played undisciplined ball just like the Griz did today. We lost because we didn't play well enough and we gave short fields and turned the ball over. That's our teams fault. This is the same BS homer stuff you were doing last year when you were winning the games and some of the other teams were shooting temselves in the foot to let you win but it was all how good McNeese was and nothing to do with the other team then right?

[msupokes1]

This is the worst I,ve seen McNeese play since E Washington. We can't win the SLC playing this poorly

I thought we played pretty good on Offense and Defense. The penalty's are going to kill us.

[RowdyPenguin]

UMMM??? Our linebacker should have knocked down the pass that was deflected off him for a catch on fourth down, and would have been the win. That 1. Second was the same linebacker should have intercepted the pass on the 3rd OT resulting in no score by MSU but he dropped it.

Should have, would have, could have. We lost, good game by the cowboys, but it takes a lot of nuts to say we should have been beat by double digits.

Aren't those parts of the game? I must be confused? Just like those interceptions that SDSU did get? I must be mistaken.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Oh and btw, congrats to both teams for a well played game. That must have been very exciting to be at in spite of the loss for the SDSU guys.

[blackfordpu]

If all you're looking at is overtime there is something to that. McNeese did get lucky with that fourth down catch on its second possesion. Of course, they may not have even been having to DO a second possession if they hadn't committed a face mask penalty on a sack on SDSU's first possession.

But the main thing is it should never have gotten to overtime. As I posted earlier, McNeese threw two interceptions when they were deep in SDSU territory that led to 10 SDSU points and also probably cost McNeese some points. Plus, the second interception like that happened after McNeese was on a good drive and put itself in a bad down and distance situation with yet ANOTHER penalty.

From the standpoint of a McNeese fan, that was an EXTREMELY sloppy game by the Cowboys.

You keep going to those interceptions as mistakes by the cowboys. Why not credit the defense for picking apart the play and picking the ball off?

Defenses can make plays with out the offense making a mistake.

[msupokes1]

If McNeese is 4th, Jacks are definitely up there too.[/QUOTE]

The Jacks did well capitalizing on McNeeses mistakes but if you truely watched the game McNeese was clearly the better team.

[Rabbit3467]

If all you're looking at is overtime there is something to that. McNeese did get lucky with that fourth down catch on its second possesion. Of course, they may not have even been having to DO a second possession if they hadn't committed a face mask penalty on a sack on SDSU's first possession.

But the main thing is it should never have gotten to overtime. As I posted earlier, McNeese threw two interceptions when they were deep in SDSU territory that led to 10 SDSU points and also probably cost McNeese some points. Plus, the second interception like that happened after McNeese was on a good drive and put itself in a bad down and distance situation with yet ANOTHER penalty.

From the standpoint of a McNeese fan, that was an EXTREMELY sloppy game by the Cowboys.

Okay, but our kicker also missed two FG's which would have won the game. Guess what your offense has to play against a defense that TRIES to pick off the quarterback. Im sorry we're not UNC that you could hang with and it took 3 OT's to beat us, but obviously you didnt see the whole game either. I dont know if you noticed but we also had a fumble on our first play on offense that gave you points. You had some penalties that hurt we had some plays and penalties that hurt. THATS FOOTBALL.

I still think it takes a lot of nuts to say you should have won by double digits.

[MSU_77]

I just hope Quinten Lawrence isn't lost for the season. It was a hard fought game with a lot of mistakes by the Pokes, but they pulled it out and that's all that matters.

[RabidRabbit]

If McNeese is 4th, Jacks are definitely up there too.

The Jacks did well capitalizing on McNeeses mistakes but if you truely watched the game McNeese was clearly the better team.[/QUOTE]

Each team did what it does well, and didn't do what they don't play well.

I very much disagree that McNeese was ANY BETTER than the Jacks. Jacks frequently win by having a + TO margin, and by big special teams/major D plays. Jacks had that kind of game again.

Both teams knew this would be a BATTLE ROYALE, and it was.

[MSUstudent]

Total offense
MSU: 574
SDSU: 412

[MSU_77]

What was the attendance? Seemed like half the population of South Dakota was there.

[jacksfan29]

Have to wonder what a healthy SDSU defense would have done today. Poly next week, and back to conference play.

[NorCalJack]

Well I don't agree that McNeese St. dominated the stats.

When the other team (McNeese St.) turns the ball over and SDSU returns it to the house, it is kind of tought for the SDSU offense to get any yards.

Here are two examples of what I'm talking about. If MSU drives 60 yards and then turns it over and SDSU returns the ball 82 yards for a TD. In another possession MSU drive 60 yards, SDSU intercepts another pass and returns the ball to their 14 yard line. The most offensive yards SDSU can get is 14 yards. So MSU would get 120 yards of total offense and SDSU had a chance of gaining 14 yards. That does not mean your team is superiour. No, that just means your team gets two extra offensive possessions to pad your offensive stats.

Look it was a good game and unfortunately someone had to lose. You can would of and should of all you want, the game went to 3 overtimes and SDSU lost by 2 points. End of story.

[URMite]

Congrats to McNeese and good game to SDSU...but how often do you see a team go for 2 when they have the ball 1st in an OT round? That seems a very rare strategy, or did I miss something?

[NorCalJack]

Total offense
MSU: 574
SDSU: 412

Add in 137 return yards on INT's and

MSU: 574
SDSU: 549

Pretty even to me.

[Rabbit3467]

Congrats to McNeese and good game to SDSU...but how often do you see a team go for 2 when they have the ball 1st in an OT round? That seems a very rare strategy, or did I miss something?

You missed something, it was the third OT and you are required by rule to go for two in the third OT

[NorCalJack]

Congrats to McNeese and good game to SDSU...but how often do you see a team go for 2 when they have the ball 1st in an OT round? That seems a very rare strategy, or did I miss something?


Once a game goes to 3 Overtimes, both teams are required to go for the 2-point conversion.

[Rabbit3467]

Well I don't agree that McNeese St. dominated the stats.

When the other team (McNeese St.) turns the ball over and SDSU returns it to the house, it is kind of tought for the SDSU offense to get any yards.

Here are two examples of what I'm talking about. If MSU drives 60 yards and then turns it over and SDSU returns the ball 82 yards for a TD. In another possession MSU drive 60 yards, SDSU intercepts another pass and returns the ball to their 14 yard line. The most offensive yards SDSU can get is 14 yards. So MSU would get 120 yards of total offense and SDSU had a chance of gaining 14 yards. That does not mean your team is superiour. No, that just means your team gets two extra offensive possessions to pad your offensive stats.

Look it was a good game and unfortunately someone had to lose. You can would of and should of all you want, the game went to 3 overtimes and SDSU lost by 2 points. End of story.

Please quit making sense we should have lost by at least 20.xrolleyesx

[RowdyPenguin]

Please quit making sense we should have lost by at least 20.xrolleyesx

As opposed to saying SDSU should have won. Makes just as much sense.

[McTailGator]

Are u kidding me, nobody came up with the ball.

Our Corner picked it off. But was out of bounds.

Our radio guys when ape $hi_, but on TV our Corner didn't protest, so the refs might have made the right call.

REGARDLESS our corner did a great job of forcing your reciever out of bounds, so he did his job.

Your radio guys said that our missed field goal right before halftime sure looked good to them. They could not believe the refs called it no good.

I don't think those refs were any worse than SLC refs. Of course that's not saying much. xeyebrowx

[Bearkat-Backer]

If McNeese is 4th, Jacks are definitely up there too.


That must mean SFA is right behind them xrolleyesx . Or am I missing something?

[URMite]

You missed something, it was the third OT and you are required by rule to go for two in the third OT

I knew it was the 3rd OT but forgot the 2 pt requirement. I should have remembered from the UD game last year. Thanks!

[Retro]

Talk about giving a guy a heart attack!xeekx

Great game by both teams... SDSU's offense may not be flashy, but they chipped away at the Mcneese defense and made plays when they needed..

Was disappointed in the officials and a few obvious bad calls... Something about those Gateway/Missouri Valley refs.. Reminded me of the youngstown game in 2002.

This is the kind of game both teams deserve to win!xthumbsupx

[JohnStOnge]

I probably shouldn't have posted right when I was in the middle of being really frustrated with McNeese for all the penalties and such. But it was very frustrating to watch for a person that was pulling for McNeese.

[JTCowboy]

Great game Jackrabbits. Ony real negative was the horrible face mask call in OT. Really bad call at a critical time.

Hope you guys make it to playoffs and we can have a rematch in Lake Charlesxnodx

[RabidRabbit]

Have to wonder what a healthy SDSU defense would have done today. Poly next week, and back to conference play.

Welcome '29! Glad to see another Jacks backer here!

Both Poly and SDSU have next week off (unless Poly picks up a counter make up game for the Hurricane Ike cancelled game vs McNeese) then play on 10/14 in Brookings.

That is shaping up to be a play-off determining game for both 'Stangs/Jacks.

[JackTwice]

Great game Jackrabbits. Ony real negative was the horrible face mask call in OT. Really bad call at a critical time.

Hope you guys make it to playoffs and we can have a rematch in Lake Charlesxnodx

How so? I was standing in the corner of the endzone when it happened. It was plain as day.

Now, we could argue all day long about this call or that play but in the end McNeese was just a bit better than SDSU today and that's why they won.

[pokum88]

Get off your high horse already. SDSU gave you all you could handle and more and you go and say something like that.

Classless.....xrolleyesx

Win something then pop off.xnodx

[pokum88]

You keep going to those interceptions as mistakes by the cowboys. Why not credit the defense for picking apart the play and picking the ball off?

Defenses can make plays with out the offense making a mistake.

What would you(shsu) know about defense.xlolx

[jacksfan29]

Welcome '29! Glad to see another Jacks backer here!

Both Poly and SDSU have next week off (unless Poly picks up a counter make up game for the Hurricane Ike cancelled game vs McNeese) then play on 10/14 in Brookings.

That is shaping up to be a play-off determining game for both 'Stangs/Jacks.

Correct, for some reason I was thinking the off week was following Poly. Good time for it. We've got to get a healthy Schroeder back in the middle and an extra week should do the trick. Course, from what I see Poly is also getting tonight off xsmiley_wix

[JTCowboy]

How so? I was standing in the corner of the endzone when it happened. It was plain as day.

Now, we could argue all day long about this call or that play but in the end McNeese was just a bit better than SDSU today and that's why they won.

Well the sack and facemask call happened around the 19-20yard line if I remember. Do you really think you had a better view 29-30 yards away at ground level than I did watching it from the camera view? Not that it really matters, but I know what plays look like at ground level from 30 yards away with players between you and the spot. What made it even worse was that the official making the call was falling backwards when he threw the flag. Every close call went SDSU way today and thats home field and OK, but that was not a face mask, it was a clean sack.

You guys have a classy team and fan base and I look forward to more games with the jacks and hopefully ND soon too.

Good luck the rest of the year.

[Smokey]

First Post, but a 3 year browser :)

That was a great game by both teams. End of story. Yah. he missed a FG, and they did this.........

Rabbits were very solid, and they dissected our defense. What concerned me was why they threw Fontenot in there when DF was in a groove. I just want to say, GREAT GAME by both teams, and good luck next week.

Smokey

[McNeese75]

Great game and game atmosphere tonight in Brookings (I'm exhausted). We knew is would be tough to win here (as most NDSU fans have said over and over). This was a very physical game and both teams left it all on the field. I am proud of the Cowboys for hanging in there an heading home with the W. Both teams are better from this game (other than the loss of QL for McNeese).

Best of luck to the Jacks for the remainder of the season. The sick feeling you may have tonight after seeing his game slip away is exactly how we felt two years ago in Lake Charles. Two games in the books for the Jacks and Pokes and they were both slobberknockers.

[blackfordpu]

What would you(shsu) know about defense.xlolx

Ok, who are you?

[JackTwice]

Great game and game atmosphere tonight in Brookings (I'm exhausted). We knew is would be tough to win here (as most NDSU fans have said over and over). This was a very physical game and both teams left it all on the field. I am proud of the Cowboys for hanging in there an heading home with the W. Both teams are better from this game (other than the loss of QL for McNeese).

Best of luck to the Jacks for the remainder of the season. The sick feeling you may have tonight after seeing his game slip away is exactly how we felt two years ago in Lake Charles. Two games in the books for the Jacks and Pokes and they were both slobberknockers.

When one of your players walked off the field at the end with ice on his leg and limping (I thought #2) he said something like Happy Hobo Day, I'm gettin on the bus and heading back to Louisiana and hope I never come back here again.

On the positive side for McNeese the only other Southland team we lost to ended up in the semi-finals. So you got that going for you, which is nice.

[Jacks02]

Well the sack and facemask call happened around the 19-20yard line if I remember. Do you really think you had a better view 29-30 yards away at ground level than I did watching it from the camera view? Not that it really matters, but I know what plays look like at ground level from 30 yards away with players between you and the spot. What made it even worse was that the official making the call was falling backwards when he threw the flag. Every close call went SDSU way today and thats home field and OK, but that was not a face mask, it was a clean sack.

You guys have a classy team and fan base and I look forward to more games with the jacks and hopefully ND soon too.

Good luck the rest of the year.

The McNeese player literally tackled him by the helmet. It was possibly the most blatant facemask penalty I have ever seen. I believe there were two or three flags thrown by other officials on the play as well.

[Jacks02]

Great game and game atmosphere tonight in Brookings (I'm exhausted). We knew is would be tough to win here (as most NDSU fans have said over and over). This was a very physical game and both teams left it all on the field. I am proud of the Cowboys for hanging in there an heading home with the W. Both teams are better from this game (other than the loss of QL for McNeese).

Best of luck to the Jacks for the remainder of the season. The sick feeling you may have tonight after seeing his game slip away is exactly how we felt two years ago in Lake Charles. Two games in the books for the Jacks and Pokes and they were both slobberknockers.

Thanks for your kind words, glad to hear your enjoyed your Hobo Day experience. Of course coming away with the victory helps a bit!

[NDSUDude]

Well they both kept it very interesting, that's for sure

[McTailGator]

Jacks had the interception and ******ed up in 2nd OT for the win.

Like I said earlier, it's a dam*ed shame that somebody had to lose. xbawlingx xbawlingx

I hope that isn't the game that costs Jacks a Play-off spot.



I hope McNeese and SDSU get another home and home agreement ASAP.

This was fun.

[JohnStOnge]

I hope McNeese and SDSU get another home and home agreement ASAP.

This was fun.

I don't know if "fun" is the right word but both games certainly kept my attention to the end.

[Prominentwon]

I don't know if "fun" is the right word but both games certainly kept my attention to the end.

Honestly, why are you even a fan? Why do you even watch it if you're expecting to be happy 100% of the time? If that game wasn't fun, I don't know what to tell you. Isn't that why people watch the game? For the ups and downs of emotion? It just alot more fun when you end up on the upside of that emotion at the end of the game.


You're not even happy when we win. I can't imagine what you're going to be like if we lose in conference.

[h5322rsh]

Talk about giving a guy a heart attack!xeekx

Great game by both teams... SDSU's offense may not be flashy, but they chipped away at the Mcneese defense and made plays when they needed..

Was disappointed in the officials and a few obvious bad calls... Something about those Gateway/Missouri Valley refs.. Reminded me of the youngstown game in 2002.

This is the kind of game both teams deserve to win!xthumbsupx

Even I could have made the right call on No 2, Roy Sam for McNeese. He literally pulled the SDSU QB, Ryan Berry's helmet off, and how do you do that cleanly without touching the face mask? You don't. The Ref was less than 5 feet from No 2, Roy Sam when he saw the infraction and he got so excited he lost his balance blowing his whistle and throwing the flag. I was sitting on the 50 yard line and all I had to do was look right slightly and it was in full view. The McNeese fans did not have the best seat in the house by any means and were in the northeast corner and a long ways from the play. I never made it down to your house, but unless I asked for a reserved seat, I would imagine we would be seated in a like manner.

If I was the McNeese Coach, No 2, Mr Sam would be doing a ton of laps on Monday, for being so blatant in his attempt to get a sack. It was a horrible attempt.

I saw a lot of class from McNeese on the field during the game, but this one play was horrible and not the kind of football we should be playing anywhere.

Even though McNeese won, I could cry about the call that No 7 Whitehead made on the 1 line. The pass was cradled and SDSU no 3 Jimmy Rogers had batted the pass away. It should have been a incomplete pass, but it wasnt so dont bitch about the bad calls. SDSU got their share and being the home team does not influence that as much as what conference you belong to.

You guys won so no need to bitch about the refs and their calls. I know they were not Southland refs, but last week against SFA, you had a Southland ref who consistently took a yard away from SDSU on spots. What this ref's problem was I really can not say, but we won that one and we move on. I see SFA won last night so watch out. Are they really the basement team of the Southland?

I do think Mc Neese showed a great deal of speed and SDSU needs to look for some of that in future recruits. I am sorry about Lawarence going down with an injury. It definitely took away a demension of your offense. According to the game program, he had good stats, and was doing a hell of a job on special teams when the injury occurred.

[h5322rsh]

I hope McNeese and SDSU get another home and home agreement ASAP.

This was fun.

I suspect that is a possiblity. If any of the Jack Fans hear something they will most likely will post it here.

[RowdyPenguin]

Why do you keep saying Roy Sam committed the penalty? You mention his name three times in your post for no reason.

[McNeese72]

A blurry photo of "The Catch". I panned over quick and the shot was before my camera had time to autofocused. I sharpened it as best I could.

http://www.geauxcowboys-eastside.org/images/sdsu08gthecatch.jpg

Doc

[McNeese72]

As far as the roughing and/or facemask call, I was right behind the endzone when it happened. I need to see the video of it, but it looked like to me that the QB pumped like he was going to throw, the McNeese player, Jon Vigers (I think) jumped like he was going to block the throw, and then came down into the face of the QB. I not saying it wasn't a proper call but that I don't think it was an intentional act by the Vigers.

Doc

P.S. Need to see the video.

[McNeese72]

Why do you keep saying Roy Sam committed the penalty? You mention his name three times in your post for no reason.

Josh, the online roster got screwed up by someone last week. It has HS freshman, Roy Sam on it as # 2. The Media Guide and the Game Day Note rosters correctly have John Vigers as # 2.

We miss you, Josh. :-)


Doc

[RowdyPenguin]

Josh, the online roster got screwed up by someone last week. It has HS freshman, Roy Sam on it as # 2. The Media Guide and the Game Day Note rosters correctly have John Vigers as # 2.

We miss you, Josh. :-)


Doc

I know. About the missing me part I mean. xsmiley_wix But really, he was so confident about everything he was saying and so far, he is 0-for-2 with the Roy Sam comments and then that the ball should have been incomplete so to not bitch about the officials.

[JackTwice]

That's a great photo doc. I only wish you had one of the facemask so people could quit bitching about it too.

[JohnStOnge]

Honestly, why are you even a fan? Why do you even watch it if you're expecting to be happy 100% of the time? If that game wasn't fun, I don't know what to tell you. Isn't that why people watch the game? For the ups and downs of emotion? It just alot more fun when you end up on the upside of that emotion at the end of the game.


You're not even happy when we win. I can't imagine what you're going to be like if we lose in conference.

Sure, winning a close one is more fun than losing a close one. But what's most fun for me is winning comforbably over a good team so I can kind of relax and enjoy the game. For me, watching McNeese make all the mistakes it made yesterday was not fun. Yes, watching South Dakota State make what I think was a very questionable play call on the two point conversion attempt and fail was enjoyable, I guess. But I wasn't real happy with all the penalties, etc., that I think made it necessary for McNeese to have to get lucky on a long fourth down conversion in overtime and have it come to that instead of winning in regulation. It was not fun to watch the numerous instances in which McNeese would get something going and get itself into good position only to have the situation changed because they committed penalties. And it wasn't fun to watch them throw two interceptions while they were deep in SDSU territory and have one returned for a TD and another returned deep into McNeese territory to set up a field goal.

I'm a fan but I don't like to see the team I'm pulling for doing that kind of stuff. I realize that committing some penalties is inevitable but 11 for 100 yards is excessive; particularly when a lot of them come in critical situations.

[h5322rsh]

Josh, the online roster got screwed up by someone last week. It has HS freshman, Roy Sam on it as # 2. The Media Guide and the Game Day Note rosters correctly have John Vigers as # 2.

We miss you, Josh. :-)


Doc

They must have given different game programs to the Mc Neese fans, as I have no 2 as Roy Sam on page page 25 and 26. That is the SDSU program, now if you felt that you did not want to pay 3 bucks and brought your own, then I am sorry some one messed up the online media guide. I can only tell you whats in the program that I bought at the game. and thats how I got the name Roy Sam. Sorry I did not know about the media mess-up McNeese.

Your photo does not tell me its not a Whitehead Trap as it was from where I was sitting, but I am not the ref and nor could I make the call. The split second before your photo would most likely have shown the ball touching the ground.and that is what I personally saw from the 50 yard line and about 20th row. You guys won, but just stop bitching about the refs and be happy with the win. Jack02 is right Rogers should have knocked the pass down. I personally feel bad for him after meeting him a function a few weeks back. He is a real gentlemen as are all the McNeese Cowboys. Thats all I dont think I am 0-2 Josh Penguin or whoever you are. I was at the game and thats what I saw.

[h5322rsh]

Why do you keep saying Roy Sam committed the penalty? You mention his name three times in your post for no reason.

Because I had my two eyes, my brains and a game program that said there was a no 2 on the roster and apparently according to Doc, the name was wrong. I can only go by what the program tells me and as far as the penalty, it was very blatant. It definitely fit the definition of horse collar tackle, with contact with the face mask of the qb.

[RowdyPenguin]

Because I had my two eyes, my brains and a game program that said there was a no 2 on the roster and apparently according to Doc, the name was wrong. I can only go by what the program tells me and as far as the penalty, it was very blatant. It definitely fit the definition of horse collar tackle, with contact with the face mask of the qb.

Well you pretty much called out Roy Sam as classless with your comments about him committing the penalty when it wasn't him, so deal with being wrong, no excuses about a program. It wouldn't be a big deal if you had just said #2 but you chose to call out a player by name while insinuating that he made an intentionally dirty play and you got it wrong.

Also, we should obviously listen to you about it not being a catch when you keep saying about how you were at the 50 yard line like that gives you the best perspective ever. I guess we should not trust the unbiased camera and should trust the biased SDSU fan that is around 200 feet away from the play with an obstructed view.

Speaking of classless, #30 should throw the shot put after seeing how well he threw his helmet after the game yesterday.

[msupokes1]

Because I had my two eyes, my brains and a game program that said there was a no 2 on the roster and apparently according to Doc, the name was wrong. I can only go by what the program tells me and as far as the penalty, it was very blatant. It definitely fit the definition of horse collar tackle, with contact with the face mask of the qb.

I am not here to debate whether it was a face mask or not because my internet feed was terrible and I definetly could not see the play that clearly but there is no way it was a horse collar and a face mask.

[Prominentwon]

Sure, winning a close one is more fun than losing a close one. But what's most fun for me is winning comforbably over a good team so I can kind of relax and enjoy the game. For me, watching McNeese make all the mistakes it made yesterday was not fun. Yes, watching South Dakota State make what I think was a very questionable play call on the two point conversion attempt and fail was enjoyable, I guess. But I wasn't real happy with all the penalties, etc., that I think made it necessary for McNeese to have to get lucky on a long fourth down conversion in overtime and have it come to that instead of winning in regulation. It was not fun to watch the numerous instances in which McNeese would get something going and get itself into good position only to have the situation changed because they committed penalties. And it wasn't fun to watch them throw two interceptions while they were deep in SDSU territory and have one returned for a TD and another returned deep into McNeese territory to set up a field goal.

I'm a fan but I don't like to see the team I'm pulling for doing that kind of stuff. I realize that committing some penalties is inevitable but 11 for 100 yards is excessive; particularly when a lot of them come in critical situations.

you need a hug. or a xanax. Either/or. I just don't understand why you are even going to watch the game if you don't even enjoy it.

[h5322rsh]

Well you pretty much called out Roy Sam as classless with your comments about him committing the penalty when it wasn't him, so deal with being wrong, no excuses about a program. It wouldn't be a big deal if you had just said #2 but you chose to call out a player by name while insinuating that he made an intentionally dirty play and you got it wrong.

Also, we should obviously listen to you about it not being a catch when you keep saying about how you were at the 50 yard line like that gives you the best perspective ever. I guess we should not trust the unbiased camera and should trust the biased SDSU fan that is around 200 feet away from the play with an obstructed view.

Speaking of classless, #30 should throw the shot put after seeing how well he threw his helmet after the game yesterday.


HOW IN THE HE#L AM I SUPPOSE KNOW THAT SOME JERK MESSED WITH YOUR MEDIA GUIDE? I did not do it, I was going on the game program that I purchased at the game. If McNeese does not have sufficient computer security over records such as the roster is that my problem? So the name was wrong. If its John or joe or whatever, I think he was blatant if not intentional in his actions and made a class team like yours look bad.

The call on the pass play is questionable in my mind, and the refs made the call that it was complete. I was just trying to call attention to the bitching by McNeese fans like your self and others.
Some how you guys try to say that you were playing two teams, SDSU and the refs, and you know darn well thats not true.

BTW throwing a helmet in frustration does not compare with a potential neck injury commited by no2 who according to McNeese72 is John Viken. Minnett no. 30 is more of a class act than you ever thought of being.

[h5322rsh]

I am not here to debate whether it was a face mask or not because my internet feed was terrible and I definetly could not see the play that clearly but there is no way it was a horse collar and a face mask.

It does not matter. The call was made and a good one at that. McNeese won and next week is a bye for the SDSU Jacks and time to heal. Good luck to the Cowboys in their next game and the rest of the season.

[msupokes1]

It does not matter. The call was made and a good one at that. McNeese won and next week is a bye for the SDSU Jacks and time to heal. Good luck to the Cowboys in their next game and the rest of the season.

I agree it does not matter. Game is over. I hope the Jackrabbits run the table and win the conference. Best of luck.

[RowdyPenguin]

HOW IN THE HE#L AM I SUPPOSE KNOW THAT SOME JERK MESSED WITH YOUR MEDIA GUIDE? I did not do it, I was going on the game program that I purchased at the game. If McNeese does not have sufficient computer security over records such as the roster is that my problem? So the name was wrong. If its John or joe or whatever, I think he was blatant if not intentional in his actions and made a class team like yours look bad.

The call on the pass play is questionable in my mind, and the refs made the call that it was complete. I was just trying to call attention to the bitching by McNeese fans like your self and others.
Some how you guys try to say that you were playing two teams, SDSU and the refs, and you know darn well thats not true.

BTW throwing a helmet in frustration does not compare with a potential neck injury commited by no2 who according to McNeese72 is John Viken. Minnett no. 30 is more of a class act than you ever thought of being.

You sure you read it right in your program because I am sure that Doc just said it was John Vigers, McNeese has no player named John Viken. So maybe it is your fault for getting the name wrong.

Also, so an accidental play where a guy was jumping to try and stop the throw and got faked out by the QB is classless but throwing your helmet like a little child is not? I see.

You say Vigers made McNeese look bad, I say #30 made SDSU look bad. The only difference was one was an accident and one was intentional.

[h5322rsh]

You sure you read it right in your program because I am sure that Doc just said it was John Vigers, McNeese has no player named John Viken. So maybe it is your fault for getting the name wrong.

Also, so an accidental play where a guy was jumping to try and stop the throw and got faked out by the QB is classless but throwing your helmet like a little child is not? I see.

You say Vigers made McNeese look bad, I say #30 made SDSU look bad. The only difference was one was an accident and one was intentional.

Vikers or Viken, its was close. Well your no 2 Vigers was so damn happy when he completed the play. No 2, vikers he ran off the field without remorse, he thought he was a real hero until the flags flew from 4 refs.
I guess that is class in its self. I dont think your coaching staff was too happy about that play. No coaches were slapping his back. In fact No 2 Mr. vikers ran towards a place to hide. He knew laps were on the agenda this coming week.

When you are a fan and pay three bucks for a program, you rely on the information. I relied on that information. Not the Game information that is put out on the web. So how does that make me wrong. If McNeese cant give their opponents the right information then you need a new Sports information Director!! Am I wrong?

Vikers, I will make a point to remember that name.

[McNeese72]

Because I had my two eyes, my brains and a game program that said there was a no 2 on the roster and apparently according to Doc, the name was wrong. I can only go by what the program tells me and as far as the penalty, it was very blatant. It definitely fit the definition of horse collar tackle, with contact with the face mask of the qb.

Evidently, SDSU got the roster they put in the program from the eroneous roster on the website. I bought the SDSU program and just looked at it and it is wrong as is the online roster.

The roster in the game day notes on the McNeese website is correct in regards to the Sam/Vigers question. The Media Guide online has John Vigers as his old number, 18 and no number 2.

Josh is no longer a student worker at McNeese and now works (a real paying job) for the SID at Texas A&M, Corpus Christi therefore he wasn't at the game Saturday. He knows that Vigers is No. 2 and not Sam. That was why he was questioning the name of Sam being used. Since he wasn't at the game, he did not know that the SDSU game program had the eroneous information in it.

Also, I was standing right behind the endzone probably on 15 yards from where Stephen made the catch and it sure looked like a catch to me.

I wasn't complaining about the facemask call. All I was saying was that it didn't look like Vigers intentionally meant to hit the QB in the head and grab the facemask. It just happened after he made his leap. I thought it was a legitimate call from my angle.

And, for any of the McNeese fans that have complained about the missed field goal before halftime, I was standing right behind the upright behind the referee that was there and the ball was about six inches to a foot wide right.

Doc

[JackTwice]

All I was saying was that it didn't look like Vigers intentionally meant to hit the QB in the head and grab the facemask. It just happened after he made his leap. I thought it was a legitimate call from my angle.

And, for any of the McNeese fans that have complained about the missed field goal before halftime, I was standing right behind the upright behind the referee that was there and the ball was about six inches to a foot wide right.

Doc

I don't know too many SDSU fans who thought the facemask was intentional. The kid made a last ditch effort to get to the QB and got his hands on his face instead of his jersey.

I guess in the end we should probably put this one to bed and agree it was an incredible football game with McNeese being pushed to the edge but ended up one play better than SDSU.

I think the big question will be what does this loss do for playoff positioning. I personally can't see a team dropping any lower than they are based on that performance. I hope for our sake McNeese runs the table just to make the playoff resume that much stronger.

[Retro]

Vikers or Viken, its was close. Well your no 2 Vigers was so damn happy when he completed the play. No 2, vikers he ran off the field without remorse, he thought he was a real hero until the flags flew from 4 refs.
I guess that is class in its self. I dont think your coaching staff was too happy about that play. No coaches were slapping his back. In fact No 2 Mr. vikers ran towards a place to hide. He knew laps were on the agenda this coming week.

When you are a fan and pay three bucks for a program, you rely on the information. I relied on that information. Not the Game information that is put out on the web. So how does that make me wrong. If McNeese cant give their opponents the right information then you need a new Sports information Director!! Am I wrong?

Vikers, I will make a point to remember that name.


Shut up Already Rookie! xrolleyesx

Yes, i'm calling you rookie because you come on this board just now to bitch at us and complain about our SID, who happens to have been at Mcneese for some 40 years and has forgotten more about football than you'll ever know.. xreadx

Your team hasn't been in Div I but for just a few years and suddenly your an expert and we are the ones wrong, classless, etc.?? Your arguing with fans/supporters that go to basically every mcneese game, take pictures on the sideline, have worked in the SID office and know how to be objective, win or lose.. Something lost on you.. xcoffeex

And it's vigers! Can you not read!xrulesx

[McNeese72]

And it's vigers! Can you not read!xrulesx

It isn't on the McNeese online roster and it wasn't in the SDSU game day program that he had.

The only argument I have with him is whether the play was intentional or not.

Too bad, I'm not the moderator in this board because I think I'd be locking this thread about now.

Doc

[McNeese72]

Sure, winning a close one is more fun than losing a close one. But what's most fun for me is winning comforbably over a good team so I can kind of relax and enjoy the game. For me, watching McNeese make all the mistakes it made yesterday was not fun. Yes, watching South Dakota State make what I think was a very questionable play call on the two point conversion attempt and fail was enjoyable, I guess. But I wasn't real happy with all the penalties, etc., that I think made it necessary for McNeese to have to get lucky on a long fourth down conversion in overtime and have it come to that instead of winning in regulation. It was not fun to watch the numerous instances in which McNeese would get something going and get itself into good position only to have the situation changed because they committed penalties. And it wasn't fun to watch them throw two interceptions while they were deep in SDSU territory and have one returned for a TD and another returned deep into McNeese territory to set up a field goal.

I'm a fan but I don't like to see the team I'm pulling for doing that kind of stuff. I realize that committing some penalties is inevitable but 11 for 100 yards is excessive; particularly when a lot of them come in critical situations.

John,

All I'll say, if you are only going to be happy when your team wins by playing a perfect game making no mistakes, then you will very rarely be happy as a fan because it is a very rare feat for a football team to play a perfect game.

Doc

[Bearkat-Backer]

xdeadhorsex

[JohnStOnge]

John,

All I'll say, if you are only going to be happy when your team wins by playing a perfect game making no mistakes, then you will very rarely be happy as a fan because it is a very rare feat for a football team to play a perfect game.

Doc

I don't think I said I'm not happy that they won and if I did I misspoke. Of course I'm glad they won. Believe me, I'm a whole lot happier about it than I'd be if they'd lost.

[h5322rsh]

Shut up Already Rookie! xrolleyesx

Yes, i'm calling you rookie because you come on this board just now to bitch at us and complain about our SID, who happens to have been at Mcneese for some 40 years and has forgotten more about football than you'll ever know.. xreadx

Your team hasn't been in Div I but for just a few years and suddenly your an expert and we are the ones wrong, classless, etc.?? Your arguing with fans/supporters that go to basically every mcneese game, take pictures on the sideline, have worked in the SID office and know how to be objective, win or lose.. Something lost on you.. xcoffeex

And it's vigers! Can you not read!xrulesx

VIGERS VIGERS, DO I really care? No.

[h5322rsh]

It isn't on the McNeese online roster and it wasn't in the SDSU game day program that he had.

The only argument I have with him is whether the play was intentional or not.

Too bad, I'm not the moderator in this board because I think I'd be locking this thread about now.

Doc

Wrong, it was in the SDSU game program as Roy Sam. I said I found it on page 25 and 26. I sent you a pm. The more I think about it is an error who knows how it was made. The guy in the Program is listed as a WR 5-8 and from Donaldsonville LA. The other thought comes to mind, is that No2 was as tall as Ryan Berry which would make him about 5 to 6 inches taller. So it does not make sense that a WR is playing defense does it?. I just was not looking for corrections in the program roster, I was curious for a name which I found in the program, wrong one but it was a name, and somehow I am being called out for being a rookie and what not. I may not know as much as your SID but I have been going to football games for as long as he has, but I dont make it my job.

Oh Yes vigers I should have known. thank Reto, you are such a class act. I can read thank you.

[JohnStOnge]

John,

All I'll say, if you are only going to be happy when your team wins by playing a perfect game making no mistakes, then you will very rarely be happy as a fan because it is a very rare feat for a football team to play a perfect game.

Doc

I've got to say this:

I don't expect a perfect game. But I think that was a big game and McNeese committed 11 penalties. South Dakota State somehow managed to commit only two penalties.

McNeese repeatedly shot itself in the foot with things like false starts on offense. I think the center got called like three times. THE CENTER.

Yes, I'm glad they won. And there's a certain silver lining to winning in spite of the large number of key penalties. But, darn it, a team shouldn't be committing that many penalties.

[JTCowboy]

Are you guys in the 3rd overtime yet??xeekx

[h5322rsh]

I've got to say this:

I don't expect a perfect game. But I think that was a big game and McNeese committed 11 penalties. South Dakota State somehow managed to commit only two penalties.

McNeese repeatedly shot itself in the foot with things like false starts on offense. I think the center got called like three times. THE CENTER.

Yes, I'm glad they won. And there's a certain silver lining to winning in spite of the large number of key penalties. But, darn it, a team shouldn't be committing that many penalties.

Just to pi@s off your fellow McNeese fans, I am going to agree with you John. McNeese is a very very good football team. There were maybe too many penalties for a team of that caliber, but again maybe its because this was game four McNeese and it was game six for SDSU.

I thought the penalty calls were correct, but then again I have never been an offical so that why I trust them and not the McNeese Fans who also have a bias. Am I wrong?

[h5322rsh]

Are you guys in the 3rd overtime yet??xeekx

Yeah I am done.

[McNeese72]

Wrong, it was in the SDSU game program as Roy Sam. I said I found it on page 25 and 26. I sent you a pm. The more I think about it is an error who knows how it was made. The guy in the Program is listed as a WR 5-8 and from Donaldsonville LA. The other thought comes to mind, is that No2 was as tall as Ryan Berry which would make him about 5 to 6 inches taller. So it does not make sense that a WR is playing defense does it?. I just was not looking for corrections in the program roster, I was curious for a name which I found in the program, wrong one but it was a name, and somehow I am being called out for being a rookie and what not. I may not know as much as your SID but I have been going to football games for as long as he has, but I dont make it my job.

Oh Yes vigers I should have known. thank Reto, you are such a class act. I can read thank you.

You need to read a little closer. I was agreeing with you. I was telling Retro that it wasn't Vigers on the online roster nor was it Vigers in the SDSU Game Day Program which you had. Both of those had the freshman who is redshirting listed instead of Vigers.

Doc

[h5322rsh]

You need to read a little closer. I was agreeing with you. I was telling Retro that it wasn't Vigers on the online roster nor was it Vigers in the SDSU Game Day Program which you had. Both of those had the freshman who is redshirting listed instead of Vigers.

Doc

Doc
Thanks and my apologies to everyone from McNeese. I guess the sting of defeat was running my emotions today more so that I would admit. It was a very good game and I got my money's worth, and thanks for making our Hobo Day a success, even though we did not win the football game.

I think I can accept that thee John Vigers play that was properly called was not intentional. Hopefully McNeese will be on our schedule again.

[McNeese72]

Doc
Thanks and my apologies to everyone from McNeese. I guess the sting of defeat was running my emotions today more so that I would admit. It was a very good game and I got my money's worth, and thanks for making our Hobo Day a success, even though we did not win the football game.

I think I can accept that thee John Vigers play that was properly called was not intentional. Hopefully McNeese will be on our schedule again.

Everything is cool. It's time to move on. Good luck to the Jackrabbits the rest of the season. Maybe, we can be lucky enough for both teams to make the playoffs and we can do it again this season.

Doc

[Jacks02]

Evidently, SDSU got the roster they put in the program from the eroneous roster on the website. I bought the SDSU program and just looked at it and it is wrong as is the online roster.

The roster in the game day notes on the McNeese website is correct in regards to the Sam/Vigers question. The Media Guide online has John Vigers as his old number, 18 and no number 2.

Josh is no longer a student worker at McNeese and now works (a real paying job) for the SID at Texas A&M, Corpus Christi therefore he wasn't at the game Saturday. He knows that Vigers is No. 2 and not Sam. That was why he was questioning the name of Sam being used. Since he wasn't at the game, he did not know that the SDSU game program had the eroneous information in it.

Also, I was standing right behind the endzone probably on 15 yards from where Stephen made the catch and it sure looked like a catch to me.

I wasn't complaining about the facemask call. All I was saying was that it didn't look like Vigers intentionally meant to hit the QB in the head and grab the facemask. It just happened after he made his leap. I thought it was a legitimate call from my angle.

And, for any of the McNeese fans that have complained about the missed field goal before halftime, I was standing right behind the upright behind the referee that was there and the ball was about six inches to a foot wide right.

Doc

I'd agree with you that it wasn't intentional or dirty, although it ended up being pretty violent. If I remember right Vigers jumped and Berry ducked, Vigers grabbed the only thing that was available, and that happened to be his helmet.

[McNeese75]

All in all, the game was really a pretty clean game. The Vigers face mask was the right call (and I also do not think it was intentional). The horse collar call after the interception was also the correct call but that was all the McNeese player could do to stop the TD and it was not malicious. I do not remember the players or details but there was a tackle earlier in the game that I though could have been called a horse collar tackle by the Jacks (but it was not as obvious). There were 11 penalties called on McNeese but several of those (4 or more) were motion penalties that were called for something the center was doing which obviously was not being called in any of the other previous McNeese games. There were a lot of holding going on that would have been called in the SLC. (I noticed the holding on the Jacks but of course I am sure there was some by the Cowboys as well)

Regardless, great game and my point is the game was NOT a dirty game by either team. I was however very physical.

One more thing, the #30 throwing his helmet was all frustration. We had the opportunity to meet him and #2 the QB after the game at the fieldhouse and they are both fine young men. They were talking to the McNeese players and everyone wished the best of luck to each other the rest of the year (and ended with "see you in the playoffs").

[Rabbitlivinginverm]

All in all, the game was really a pretty clean game. The Vigers face mask was the right call (and I also do not think it was intentional). The horse collar call after the interception was also the correct call but that was all the McNeese player could do to stop the TD and it was not malicious. I do not remember the players or details but there was a tackle earlier in the game that I though could have been called a horse collar tackle by the Jacks (but it was not as obvious). There were 11 penalties called on McNeese but several of those (4 or more) were motion penalties that were called for something the center was doing which obviously was not being called in any of the other previous McNeese games. There were a lot of holding going on that would have been called in the SLC. (I noticed the holding on the Jacks but of course I am sure there was some by the Cowboys as well)

Regardless, great game and my point is the game was NOT a dirty game by either team. I was however very physical.

One more thing, the #30 throwing his helmet was all frustration. We had the opportunity to meet him and #2 the QB after the game at the fieldhouse and they are both fine young men. They were talking to the McNeese players and everyone wished the best of luck to each other the rest of the year (and ended with "see you in the playoffs").

I'm just surprised as heck that he was caught. #21 - Cole Brodie is pretty dang fast. Your TE must have taken a great angle. I don't think it was malicious either. Nor do I think it the hit on our QB was. McNesse has a great team. I just wish we would have made a play in OT to end the dang game. Probably the worst play of the game was on 4th and 1. Our coach calls a bootleg to the right and our QB throws the ball 8 rows into the student section.xoopsx

[h5322rsh]

You need to read a little closer. I was agreeing with you. I was telling Retro that it wasn't Vigers on the online roster nor was it Vigers in the SDSU Game Day Program which you had. Both of those had the freshman who is redshirting listed instead of Vigers.

Doc

Doc:
I guess you were coming at a different direction here. You were saying that the Vigers number was incorrect in the program which is true and I was thinking that you were questioning my assertion that No 2 was Roy Sam in the game program which is also true, but incorrect number wise. I did check the program again and low and behold, no 18 is John Vigers 6-2, Strong safety and he appeared to be about the same size as Ryan Berry who is 6-3 . So now the true identy of No 2 is known in my mind. I apologize for getting hung up on details. I am sure Mr. Vigers will learn from that play. He had Berry trapped, and an good old fashioned ankle tackle would have worked too. Vigers is very quick and got around his blockers in great fashion. For that I give him credit.

[McNeese72]

Doc:
I guess you were coming at a different direction here. You were saying that the Vigers number was incorrect in the program which is true and I was thinking that you were questioning my assertion that No 2 was Roy Sam in the game program which is also true, but incorrect number wise. I did check the program again and low and behold, no 18 is John Vigers 6-2, Strong safety and he appeared to be about the same size as Ryan Berry who is 6-3 . So now the true identy of No 2 is known in my mind. I apologize for getting hung up on details. I am sure Mr. Vigers will learn from that play. He had Berry trapped, and an good old fashioned ankle tackle would have worked too. Vigers is very quick and got around his blockers in great fashion. For that I give him credit.

I still need to see the video to make sure but from my view in the endzone it appeared that the QB pumped the ball and Vigers went up to try to block the pass and then came down on the Qb's head. That is the impression I got in the endzone view but I'd have to see a video of it to be sure I wasn't wrong.

dco

[McNeese75]

I still need to see the video to make sure but from my view in the endzone it appeared that the QB pumped the ball and Vigers went up to try to block the pass and then came down on the Qb's head. That is the impression I got in the endzone view but I'd have to see a video of it to be sure I wasn't wrong.

dco

Our view in the stands was of course from the opposite end of the field but my perception was the same as Doc's. It looked like the QB ducked and Vigers jumped and came down on him. The video may show differently.