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Sports Network's FCS College Football Poll
Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. James Madison Dukes (87) 4-1 2,684 2
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers 2-2 2,528 3
3. Montana Grizzlies (16) 4-0 1,455 4
4. McNeese State Cowboys (1) 2-1 2,360 6
5. New Hampshire Wildcats (3) 4-0 1,976 7
6. Richmond Spiders 3-2 1,733 1
7. Elon Phoenix 4-1 1,653 8
8. Cal Poly Mustangs 2-1 1,337 9
9. Wofford Terriers 3-1 1,242 14
10. Northern Iowa Panthers 2-2 1,228 5
11. Eastern Washington Eagles 2-2 1,206 11
12. The Citadel Bulldogs 3-1 1,193 13
13. Southern Illinois Salukis 2-1 1,155 15
14. Villanova Wildcats 3-1 1,117 19
15. Furman Paladins (1) 4-1 1,043 16
16. Delaware Blue Hens 2-2 935 17
17. North Dakota State Bison 2-2 855 10
18. Massachusetts Minutemen 2-2 784 18
19. Central Arkansas Bears 4-1 703 12
20. Liberty Flames 4-0 687 25
21. Western Illinois Leathernecks 2-2 681 22
22. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 3-1 650 NR
23. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 3-2 559 20
24. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 3-1 548 NR
25. Brown Bears 2-0 481 NR
Others receiving votes: Eastern Illinois 382, Lafayette 368, Tennessee State 267, Harvard 260, Holy Cross 251, Youngstown State 148, William & Mary 145, Hampton 143, Sam Houston State 130, Prairie View 56, San Diego 50, Weber State 42, Florida A&M 36, Cornell 24, Norh Dakota 10, Sacred Heart 7, Delaware State 6, Montana State 4, Colgate 2, Southern 2, Central Connecticut State 1, Coastal Carolina 1, Grambling 1.


As of September 29, 2008, at 03:46 PM ET

[danefan]

Sports Network's FCS College Football Poll
Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. James Madison Dukes (87) 4-1 2,684 2
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers 2-2 2,528 3
3. Montana Grizzlies (16) 4-0 1,455 4
4. McNeese State Cowboys (1) 2-1 2,360 6
5. New Hampshire Wildcats (3) 4-0 1,976 7
6. Richmond Spiders 3-2 1,733 1
7. Elon Phoenix 4-1 1,653 8
8. Cal Poly Mustangs 2-1 1,337 9
9. Wofford Terriers 3-1 1,242 14
10. Northern Iowa Panthers 2-2 1,228 5
11. Eastern Washington Eagles 2-2 1,206 11
12. The Citadel Bulldogs 3-1 1,193 13
13. Southern Illinois Salukis 2-1 1,155 15
14. Villanova Wildcats 3-1 1,117 19
15. Furman Paladins (1) 4-1 1,043 16
16. Delaware Blue Hens 2-2 935 17
17. North Dakota State Bison 2-2 855 10
18. Massachusetts Minutemen 2-2 784 18
19. Central Arkansas Bears 4-1 703 12
20. Liberty Flames 4-0 687 25
21. Western Illinois Leathernecks 2-2 681 22
22. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 3-1 650 NR
23. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 3-2 559 20
24. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 3-1 548 NR
25. Brown Bears 2-0 481 NR
Others receiving votes: Eastern Illinois 382, Lafayette 368, Tennessee State 267, Harvard 260, Holy Cross 251, Youngstown State 148, William & Mary 145, Hampton 143, Sam Houston State 130, Prairie View 56, San Diego 50, Weber State 42, Florida A&M 36, Cornell 24, Norh Dakota 10, Sacred Heart 7, Delaware State 6, Montana State 4, Colgate 2, Southern 2, Central Connecticut State 1, Coastal Carolina 1, Grambling 1.


As of September 29, 2008, at 03:46 PM ET

xrolleyesx

[OL FU]

Same Furman homer that votes in AGS must vote in TSNxthumbsupx

[drpnut]

Elon is not the 7th best team. Period.

[RabidRabbit]

xhomerx

This is the first poll that I've seen that the SDSU Jacks fell (three places) due to their tight win down at SFA.

What I thought wrong about the Jacks position is that WIU (already lost to SDSU) is rated above the Jacks, by sitting idle. xnonono2x xnonono2x

[FurmanPaladins4138]

I like that (1) next to Furman. looks good.

[RazorEdge19]

Elon is not the 7th best team. Period.

xbowx xbowx xbowx xbowx xbowx xbowx xbowx

[appfan2008]

wow does anyone want to man up on ags and admit to being the guy who votes in ags and tsn and has the paladins number one?

[UNIFanSince1983]

Well they had a close game with WIU and then really had to fight to beat a pretty down SFA. Plus the two teams were only a couple spots apart to begin with. So I can see where that would happen, but I do not necessarily agree with that. I still think SDSU might be the 3rd best team in the MVFC.

[Lionsrking]

Sports Network's FCS College Football Poll
Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. James Madison Dukes (87) 4-1 2,684 2
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers 2-2 2,528 3
3. Montana Grizzlies (16) 4-0 1,455 4
4. McNeese State Cowboys (1) 2-1 2,360 6
5. New Hampshire Wildcats (3) 4-0 1,976 7
6. Richmond Spiders 3-2 1,733 1
7. Elon Phoenix 4-1 1,653 8
8. Cal Poly Mustangs 2-1 1,337 9
9. Wofford Terriers 3-1 1,242 14
10. Northern Iowa Panthers 2-2 1,228 5
11. Eastern Washington Eagles 2-2 1,206 11
12. The Citadel Bulldogs 3-1 1,193 13
13. Southern Illinois Salukis 2-1 1,155 15
14. Villanova Wildcats 3-1 1,117 19
15. Furman Paladins (1) 4-1 1,043 16
16. Delaware Blue Hens 2-2 935 17
17. North Dakota State Bison 2-2 855 10
18. Massachusetts Minutemen 2-2 784 18
19. Central Arkansas Bears 4-1 703 12
20. Liberty Flames 4-0 687 25
21. Western Illinois Leathernecks 2-2 681 22
22. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 3-1 650 NR
23. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 3-2 559 20
24. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 3-1 548 NR
25. Brown Bears 2-0 481 NR
Others receiving votes: Eastern Illinois 382, Lafayette 368, Tennessee State 267, Harvard 260, Holy Cross 251, Youngstown State 148, William & Mary 145, Hampton 143, Sam Houston State 130, Prairie View 56, San Diego 50, Weber State 42, Florida A&M 36, Cornell 24, Norh Dakota 10, Sacred Heart 7, Delaware State 6, Montana State 4, Colgate 2, Southern 2, Central Connecticut State 1, Coastal Carolina 1, Grambling 1.


As of September 29, 2008, at 03:46 PM ET

Amazing...we go from getting 13 points last week to zero this week, and the team we beat goes from 1 to 10...gotta love the polls!!!

[appfan2008]

I did some quick math on JMU's point total ( I have nothing better to do...)
and here is what I found...

there were 108 people who cast their votes... using the 25 points for first, 24 for second, etc... that means if a team had all 108 people vote them first they would have 2700 points...

JMU had 87 first place votes... for a total of 2175 points... if the other 21 voters all voted JMU second that would add up to an additional 504 votes... that means the most points they could have had is 2175 + 504 is 2679... this poll is reporting that JMU recieved 2684 points... does anyone know how that could happen or was it a mistake or did i do something wrong...?

[OL FU]

wow does anyone want to man up on ags and admit to being the guy who votes in ags and tsn and has the paladins number one?

i was kiddingxnodx

[PhoenixPhan06]

Elon is not the 7th best team. Period.

As much as I would love to rub in the fact that we're #7 in the week 5 TSN poll, I still think its too high right now. In my opinion, we should be somewhere between 9-12. Its laughable how much variance lays between where we are in the AGS poll (14), FCS poll (15), and the TSN poll (7). Not to mention the token first place votes that are spread around on a weekly basis. xnonox

I try not to put too much stock in these rankings early in the season. The important rankings will come in weeks 6-12 as everyone will start conference play and the win and loss will represent what a team is really capable of.

One thing that you can't dispute right now is who sits atop the SoCon standings. xsmiley_wix xsmiley_wix

[PaladinFan]

As much as I would love to rub in the fact that we're #7 in the week 5 TSN poll, I still think its too high right now. In my opinion, we should be somewhere between 9-12. Its laughable how much variance lays between where we are in the AGS poll (14), FCS poll (15), and the TSN poll (7). Not to mention the token first place votes that are spread around on a weekly basis. xnonox

I try not to put too much stock in these rankings early in the season. The important rankings will come in weeks 6-12 as everyone will start conference play and the win and loss will represent what a team is really capable of.

One thing that you can't dispute right now is who sits atop the SoCon standings. xsmiley_wix xsmiley_wix

Enjoy it while it lasts :)

[brownbear]

Brown's #25!!!!!!

[RazorEdge19]

As much as I would love to rub in the fact that we're #7 in the week 5 TSN poll, I still think its too high right now. In my opinion, we should be somewhere between 9-12. Its laughable how much variance lays between where we are in the AGS poll (14), FCS poll (15), and the TSN poll (7). Not to mention the token first place votes that are spread around on a weekly basis. xnonox

I try not to put too much stock in these rankings early in the season. The important rankings will come in weeks 6-12 as everyone will start conference play and the win and loss will represent what a team is really capable of.

One thing that you can't dispute right now is who sits atop the SoCon standings. xsmiley_wix xsmiley_wix

You know, sitting upon the SoCon rankings is nice in week 5, but believe me, its much better come week 12. xsmiley_wix

[PhoenixPhan06]

You know, sitting upon the SoCon rankings is nice in week 5, but believe me, its much better come week 12. xsmiley_wix

I'm hoping that we'll get a taste of that this year! With all the great teams in the SoCon, we could be putting those mathematicians to work on a tie breaker come week 12!

[Pitz]

Villanova and Furman are top ten teams.

[furman94]

wow does anyone want to man up on ags and admit to being the guy who votes in ags and tsn and has the paladins number one?

Have you SEEN us this year xeekx ! Haha... really, who put us there?

[GeauxLions94]

Amazing...we go from getting 13 points last week to zero this week, and the team we beat goes from 1 to 10...gotta love the polls!!!

Amazing indeed. Who's the ringleader of this outfit? xmadx

[ElonFirefighter]

Enjoy it while it lasts :)


Enjoy that little 1 beside your name :)

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I did some quick math on JMU's point total ( I have nothing better to do...)
and here is what I found...
there were 108 people who cast their votes... using the 25 points for first, 24 for second, etc... that means if a team had all 108 people vote them first they would have 2700 points...
JMU had 87 first place votes... for a total of 2175 points... if the other 21 voters all voted JMU second that would add up to an additional 504 votes... that means the most points they could have had is 2175 + 504 is 2679... this poll is reporting that JMU recieved 2684 points... does anyone know how that could happen or was it a mistake or did i do something wrong...?No, I think you are correct. I know the Sports Network compiles their ballots manually so the possibility of point error is greater than AGS. Maybe the number of #1 votes is wrong?

[Thunderstruck84]

Apparently the Bison's woeful performance against Bye prompted a 7 spot drop xrolleyesx

[Lionsrking]

Apparently the Bison's woeful performance against Bye prompted a 7 spot drop xrolleyesx

I think they threw darts this week.

[TexasTerror]

I think they threw darts this week.

I thought Pete's Weekly comes out later in the week... xconfusedx

[SactoHornetFan]

I don't get the TSN voters, they gave Montana State 4 votes who are 2-2 with both wins against non-Div. I schools and Sacramento State who is 3-2 with a win against PSU and two non-Div. I schools and who barely lost to Weber State and Colorado State doesn't get any? And MSU got blown out by Kansas State and played ok at Minnesota (but not where UMinn never had the game in doubt)? xeyebrowx

[aceinthehole]

xrolleyesx

I agree. Whoever votes for SHU must stop the madness or this poll loses all credibility!