Umass @ Holy Cross gamethread

[umassfan]

Okay game is about to start... please keep me updated as i have no video or audio plus there is no gametracker.

Thank you :D

[EmeryZach]

0-0 2:30 left in the 1st. Holy Cross is driving. UMass defense doesn't look very good.

[UMass922]

Scoreless so far, 1:43 left in the first quarter. Holy Cross has the ball in UMass territory.

[EmeryZach]

Okay game is about to start... please keep me updated as i have no video or audio plus there is no gametracker.

Thank you :D


chennelsurfing.net has the game video. You can watch it there.

[EmeryZach]

Touchdown HC 7-0. WOW the defense looks horrible. What is going on?

[umassfan]

im at work and cannot watch video

[EmeryZach]

Huge pass to Horne 47 yards down to the 28. Nice. End of the first.

[umassfan]

Touchdown HC 7-0. WOW the defense looks horrible. What is going on?

What looks bad about it... pass D or run D or both. Until our fumble at the 19 we moved the ball well on them... could be a shoot out but this game i do not like

[EmeryZach]

Touchdown UMASS, Coen ran it in from the 2. 7-7.

Everyone on the Defense is playing poor. Offense looks good. We'll see how the defense does on this next drive.

[EmeryZach]

Big return by HC, all the way to the UMass 40. Damn.

[EmeryZach]

HC first down at the 12. The D-Line is getting blown off the line and the D-backs are getting blocked. Running the option all over us.

[EmeryZach]

Pass interference in the endzone.

[EmeryZach]

Touchdown HC. I don't know what to say. HC 14- UMass 7

[umassfan]

Looks like it will be a score a thon till the rain comes

[EmeryZach]

Touchdown Horne! Coen looks sharp. 14-14.

Offense looks awesome. O-line is doing great. Shootout time.

[EmeryZach]

HC just broke a huge tackle and returned the kick for a touchdown HC 21- UMass 14

Horrible.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

LOL...this game is nutts...

[EmeryZach]

3 and out for UMass, punt time. HC almost broke the punt return for a TD. These HC kids are fast.

[EmeryZach]

Big series for the UMass defense. Need to stop them

[EmeryZach]

I'll tell you what, this is not a #4 team in the country. Not even top ten quality. Atleast not the defense.

[UMass922]

Coen missed a wide-open Horne on the last drive for what should have been a game-tying TD.

[EmeryZach]

HC at the UMass 12 and moving.

[EmeryZach]

1st and goal at the 9 for HC. 15th first down of the game.

[umassfan]

I cannot understand why our D is so bad this year. We lost 4 starters but really only 3

[EmeryZach]

Touchdown HC on a short pass. HC 28 - UMass 14.

Um........ Yeah.

[Col Hogan]

HC TD

28 - 14 Crusaders

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Holy Cross making the PL look good so far.

[umassfan]

When is the last time a UMass D gave up 28 points in the first half to a FCS team? This is a joke

[EmeryZach]

Courtney Robinson returns it to the HC 37. Lets see if we can score here.

[Col Hogan]

TD UMass


Coen to Horne

[EmeryZach]

Touchdown Horne!! HC 28 - UMass 21

[EmeryZach]

The offense looks amazing. Can the defense make a stop? That is the big question. One stop, please.

[Col Hogan]

Halftime

HC 28 UMass 21

[EmeryZach]

HC 28 - UMass 21 HALFTIME

[EmeryZach]

Col Hogan, I'm gonna stop posting updates because we both just keep typing the same thing hahaha. All yours.

I wouldn't want to be a defensive player in that locker room right now.

[LehighFan11]

Any box score on this game? ESPN doesn't have one.

[UMass922]

I wouldn't want to be a defensive player in that locker room right now.

No kidding. Yikes, what a horrible first half.

[Col Hogan]

Special Teams aren't exactly shining either

[Col Hogan]

UMass receives the KO and starts at the 38

[Col Hogan]

Coen to Cruz on a big play...

ball to the HC 24

[Col Hogan]

Nelson on a 5 yd run

[Col Hogan]

Incomplete to Cruz

3rd & 5

[Col Hogan]

Coen to Cruz...

First down on the 13

[Col Hogan]

Nelson loses two

2nd and 12 from the 14

[Col Hogan]

Coen to Horne

3rd & 2 from the 4

[Col Hogan]

TD UMass

Nelson on a two yrd run

[Col Hogan]

UMass 28 HC 28

11:45 left in the 3rd

[EmeryZach]

Oh yeah baby. Big TD.

LETS GO DEFENSE!!!!

[Col Hogan]

Again, Special Teams allow HC to get the ball on the KO at the 40

[Col Hogan]

IC Pass HC

[Col Hogan]

IC Pass HC

3rd & 10

[Col Hogan]

IC Pass

4th and 10

Defense with pressure on the HC QB

[Col Hogan]

Small runs the punt back to the 31...

Awaiting results of a flag

[Col Hogan]

Block in the back by UMass

10 yards from the spot

[Col Hogan]

Coen pass is tipped...

4th down

Arnold punt, returned to the UMass 46...

Again, special teams give HC good field position

[Col Hogan]

McDermitt run to the 27

[Col Hogan]

IC Pass HC

2nd & 10

[Col Hogan]

Jennings with a huge sack...15 yards


HC on the 45...

[Col Hogan]

Another sack...Coulier gets to Randolph

[Col Hogan]

Bad punt by HC...UMass gets the ball on the 30

[Col Hogan]

Coen to Horne...

UMass first down on the HC 45

[Col Hogan]

Coen to Cruz

Umass first down on the 32

[Col Hogan]

Nelson on a 7 yard run

2nd & 3

[Col Hogan]

Coen to Sanford...

TD......

[EmeryZach]

Oh yeah!! First lead!! That was a great catch and run by Sanford. UMass 35 - HC 28

[Col Hogan]

UMass 35 HC 28

5:13 left in the 3rd

[ursus arctos horribilis]

man this is a heckuva game. Holy cross and Umass are making some hay on offense today.

[Col Hogan]

HC Ball on the HC 31

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Well Holy Cross was thought to have a great offense and zero defense and that seems pretty accurate right now.

[Col Hogan]

Great stop...but a 15 yard yellow flag

Face Mask...

[Col Hogan]

3rd & 3

Another yellow flag on UMass

Harrington

15 yards

[Col Hogan]

HC 1st & 10 on the 31

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Well Holy Cross was thought to have a great offense and zero defense and that seems pretty accurate right now.

Looks like they have some good speed in the linebackers and corners but they are reall lacking in the D Line. No pressure on Coen at all so far.

[Col Hogan]

2nd and 5 HC

[Col Hogan]

Randolph to Moore

1st & 10 on the 21

[Col Hogan]

TD HC

[EmeryZach]

Damn. Our defense is getting ripped apart.

[Col Hogan]

UMass 35 HC 35

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Man they left the middle wide open on that run in for TD by HC.

[Col Hogan]

Will we top 100 points combined in this game????

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Will we top 100 points combined in this game????

it certainly looks like it could happen Col.

[Col Hogan]

HC tries an on-side kick...out of bounds...

UMass gets the ball on the 50

[ursus arctos horribilis]

They must have figure what the hell the starting position will be about the same so why not go for the onside.

[Col Hogan]

Nelson loses 2

2nd & 12 on the 48

[Col Hogan]

No gain by Nelson

3rd & 12

[Col Hogan]

Coen underthrows Horne...

Punt team is in

[Col Hogan]

HC returns the punt to the 22...

First & 10

[Col Hogan]

2nd & 10 HC

Just heard the UNH scorexeekxxeekx

[Col Hogan]

3rd Q ends...

HC has 3rd and 3

[UNHWildCats]

2nd & 10 HC

Just heard the UNH scorexeekxxeekx
28-10 over Army

[Col Hogan]

The "D" and special teams play has not been acceptable...

We knew there were special teams questions...I thought the "D" was our strength

[Col Hogan]

UMass "D" stops HC

4th and 3

Punting team in...

[Col Hogan]

UMass gets the punt on the UMass 36...

[Col Hogan]

2nd and 14 UMass

[Col Hogan]

Coen to Cruz

3rd and 5 at the 41

[Col Hogan]

Coen to Sanford to the 38

Awaiting results of flag

[Col Hogan]

Holding - 10 yrds

3th and 15 UMass

[Col Hogan]

Time Out - UMass

[Col Hogan]

Coen overthrows Bailey

4th & 15...Yellow Flags are killing UMass

[Col Hogan]

Good punt...downed on the HC 22

[Col Hogan]

12:49 left

[Col Hogan]

2 yd gain...

HC 2nd & 8

[Col Hogan]

Late Hit by Davis...another UMass penalty

[Col Hogan]

HC 1st down on the 39

[Col Hogan]

HC pass tipped by Hanson

2nd & 10

[Col Hogan]

HC gets the ball to the UMass 48

[Col Hogan]

HC gains 2

2nd & 8 on the 46

[YoUDeeMan]

Late Hit by Davis...another UMass penalty

3 personal fouls in the past 10 minutes? WTH is up with that? xeyebrowx

[Col Hogan]

3rd & 8 for HC

[Col Hogan]

"D" stops HC by knocking down a Randolph pass

Punting team on for HC

[Col Hogan]

HC delay of game on the punting team

[Col Hogan]

Smalls returns the punt 10 yards...

1st and 10 on the 23

[Col Hogan]

Coen to Hawkins

Ball to the 48

[Col Hogan]

Nelson on a huge run...

17 yards

[Col Hogan]

1st and 10 on the 34

[Col Hogan]

Nelson to the 29

[Col Hogan]

Coen to Talley on the 2yard line

1st and Goal

[Col Hogan]

IC Pass

2nd and goal on the 2

[Col Hogan]

TD Tony Nelson

[Col Hogan]

UMass 42 HC 35

7:14 in the 4th

[Col Hogan]

HC returns KO to the HC 23

[Col Hogan]

Kilt runs the ball to the HC 39

[LehighFan11]

these games are always high scoring....is it raining hard there?

[Col Hogan]

No rain yet

[Col Hogan]

8 yard gain for HC

"D" is not stopping them

[Col Hogan]

1st Down HC at the 38

[Col Hogan]

Broken play...good pressure...Randolph gains nothing

2nd down & 10

[Col Hogan]

4th Down HC...good pressure by the "D"

[Col Hogan]

HC goes for it...
IC Pass...

But another pass interference call against UMass keeps HC alive

[UNHWildCats]

UNH wins 28-10

[Col Hogan]

10 yard run by HC

1st and 10 on the 20

[LehighFan11]

10 yard run by HC

1st and 10 on the 20

time left?

[Col Hogan]

Jennings (UMass) down on the field...NO GOOD!!!

[Col Hogan]

Just over 3:00 left

[Col Hogan]

HC gains 10...

First and goal HC

[Col Hogan]

TD HC

[EmeryZach]

you have to be kidding me

[Col Hogan]

UMass 42 HC 42

2:22 left in the 4th

[CharlestonAppFan]

UMass playing flat or is HC playing very well? or vice versa?

[YoUDeeMan]

Dumb penalties are killing UMass.

Good gosh, are your guys trying to give the game away?

[LehighFan11]

Wow anyone got some stats for this game jeeze.

[umassfan]

UMass playing flat or is HC playing very well? or vice versa?

Seems like Holy Cross's offense is the same as last year but more exp... they will be good this year if they can stop anyone

[Col Hogan]

KO out of bounds...

UMass gets the ball on the 40

[Col Hogan]

Nelson gain 3

[Col Hogan]

Coen to Bailey

Out at the 49

3rd and 1

[Col Hogan]

Quick snap by UMass

Illegal shift

5yard penalty ARRGGGGG

[umassfan]

I guess Don Brown teams are never going to learn when it comes to flags

[Col Hogan]

3rd & 6

Coen competion short of the 50

UMass Time out

[Col Hogan]

4th and one...

Do they go for it????

[Col Hogan]

Nelson run...converts the 4th down

[Col Hogan]

2nd and 10 for UMass

:46 seconds left

[YoUDeeMan]

Balls. Nice job.

[Col Hogan]

UMass pass IC to Horne

:38 seconds left

3rd and 10 from the 46

[Col Hogan]

Coen to Talley...5 yard gain

4th down

UMass time out

:24 seconds left

[Col Hogan]

UMass is going for it

[LehighFan11]

too far for a fg?

[Col Hogan]

Sorry...I got dumped

UMass has the ball on the 25...

FG team is on the field

4 seconds left...HC time out

[Col Hogan]

HC calls another time out

[LehighFan11]

cmon i want to see OT

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Man, I don't understand with 19 sec. left not going for a couple of sideline or endzone passes. What am I missing?

[Col Hogan]

HC calls 3rd TO

[Col Hogan]

FG is good...

UMass wins

[JoltinJoe]

The suspense is killing me...

[YoUDeeMan]

Intersting. The kicker hasn't kicked a FG in a couple of years, but he's already made 6 PATS in this game.

BINGO!

[UNHWildCats]

ugh

[Col Hogan]

Final Score

UMass 45 Holy Cross 42

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Wow! That was a great game and congrats UNass, that was a battle1

[EmeryZach]

YES!!!!!!!!! CUCKO!!!!!!! WOW what a game.

[LehighFan11]

Wow great game.

[umassfan]

Thanks guys for the updates.... great to excape with a win.

[Jackman]

We played like clowns and Holy Cross looked very well prepared to play in their first game, deserved to win. Thank god we were clutch on the final possession.

[EmeryZach]

Oh boy i'm tired now. That was brutal. Holy Cross played awesome, credit to them.

UMass Defense is going to be in trouble next week at JMU, I'll be there.

[Col Hogan]

This has been one frustrating game...

The "O" has its act together...

But the "D" and special teams obviously need work...

JMU next week ...I'll be at that game...

I hope Coach Brown can get their attention...otherwise, it's going to be a long game

[dennisdent]

I'll be there too. Great game by the Cross. Nice to have the teams playing again.

UMass defense this season is a joke...overated...out of shape...arm tackling...Texes Tech could be very scary.

[dwtime]

good teams pull games out like that but the UMass defense has to be better than what they showed today, injuries?

[UMass922]

I'll be there too. Great game by the Cross. Nice to have the teams playing again.

UMass defense this season is a joke...overated...out of shape...arm tackling...Texes Tech could be very scary.

No kidding. If HC can put put up 42 on us, TT should put up about 200.

Boatload of stupid penalties, too (what else is new). At least Coen and the offense looked great. If nothing else, should mean a lot of high-scoring shootouts this year. I guess we'll know after the JMU game whether or not this team is truly capable of contending for the NC. But with how the defense looked today, I'm not getting my hopes up.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Holy Cross is going to put a ton of points up this year so i really wouldn't worry too much if i was a UMASS fan.

[Go...gate]

Sounds like a great game and a fine effort by the Crusaders!

[UMass922]

Holy Cross is going to put a ton of points up this year so i really wouldn't worry too much if i was a UMASS fan.

Well, it's definitely not to take anything away from Holy Cross; that's the best Patriot League offense I've seen UMass face, and I have no doubt they'll put up points all season. But still, this was not the UMass defense we've been used to the last few years.

Anyway, this was a fun, exciting game to watch. Can't complain on that count, at least.

[Jackman]

Holy Cross is going to put a ton of points up this year so i really wouldn't worry too much if i was a UMASS fan.

It wasn't just that they were scoring, they were making it look easy. The only times we stopped them were when we got to the QB. On their final scoring drive we tried to mix it up by dropping 8 into coverage, and guys were still wide open. We have issues. Hopefully JMU will run the ball so much against NCC that they still won't have their passing game sorted when they play us. These purple teams are making us look bad.

[danefan]

Sounds like it was a good game. Props to HC, I didn't think they'd keep it as close. Should be interesting in the PL this year!

[art vandelay]

i mean absolutely no disrespect to Umass because i know they are very good but why do they struggle so much against the patriot league teams?

[EmeryZach]

Because their Defense is not very good, atleast right now it's not.

[umassfan]

Im pretty sure coen will be national player of the week throwing for 395 yards with 4 total tds

[Col Hogan]

Im pretty sure coen will be national player of the week throwing for 395 yards with 4 total tds

I'll wait to see what happenms out west...but he's got to be in the running...

Coen is definately on track for an outstanding senior year...and the "O" line, although inexperienced as a unit, has really done a great job protecting him and opening holes for Tony Nelson...

And all the pre-season talk about how the secondary was top flight...they haven't shown it yet...

[Old Cage]

A few years ago Don Brown said that someone he trusts told him to drive to Beverly to see this kid kick. He did, for a wet and windy practice day. The kid was quite small, but was kicking them through from the hash marks at long distance even with the conditions. I guess the drive paid off again.

For those with short memories, Armando did the same before:

http://umassathletics.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/101505aab.html

Three years is a long time.

[Col Hogan]

A few years ago Don Brown said that someone he trusts told him to drive to Beverly to see this kid kick. He did, for a wet and windy practice day. The kid was quite small, but was kicking them through from the hash marks at long distance even with the conditions. I guess the drive paid off again.

For those with short memories, Armando did the same before:

http://umassathletics.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/101505aab.html

Three years is a long time.
xthumbsupx xthumbsupx Great stuff, Cage.....xthumbsupx xthumbsupx

[ngineer]

Not surprised by the score or the closeness. HC is a very good team. The top tier teams in the PL can play with the CAA teams. Lafayette gave UMass a very good game a couple years back, and Lehigh has been very competitive with Villanova, Delaware and James Madison over the past few years. HC has one of the best QB's in the country and an excellent coach.

[Seawolf97]

If the Crusders keep playing like this they could take the Pl Crown this season-UMass is no easy teamxthumbsupx

[umassfan]

I'll wait to see what happenms out west...but he's got to be in the running...

Coen is definately on track for an outstanding senior year...and the "O" line, although inexperienced as a unit, has really done a great job protecting him and opening holes for Tony Nelson...

And all the pre-season talk about how the secondary was top flight...they haven't shown it yet...

Its Browns D style not the DBs that is the problem. They are shutting down the deepball but giving the short passes. Both Albany and Holy Cross took advantage.

[crusader11]

i mean absolutely no disrespect to Umass because i know they are very good but why do they struggle so much against the patriot league teams?

Because PL football is a good football league. The top 2 or 3 teams in the league can be competitive with anyone in the country. Also, where's carney2? I thought he was saying this one dimensional team couldn't compete with UMASS.

[BDKJMU]

It wasn't just that they were scoring, they were making it look easy. The only times we stopped them were when we got to the QB. On their final scoring drive we tried to mix it up by dropping 8 into coverage, and guys were still wide open. We have issues. Hopefully JMU will run the ball so much against NCC that they still won't have their passing game sorted when they play us. These purple teams are making us look bad.

Congrats to UMass on the win.

JMU went 15 for 19, 173 yds passing, TD, no INT against against NCCU. But then again, it was NCCU. Went for only one long ball the whole game. Was on the 1st JMU offensive play. Landers barely overthrew JMU's slowest (or least fastest) receiver (of the ones on the 2 deep) who did have his man beat. Most of the passing was mostly just the short underneath stuff and let the athletes get the yards after catch.

JMU Rushed for 276, 6 TDS on 38 carries. 3 backs 69-89 yds, Holloman most with 14 carries, 89 yds. Landers only rushed 3 times for 31. Looks like Matthews didn't want him carrying much his game.

Only 57 offensive plays (NCCU actually had 64). Think the new clock rules are cutting down on the # of plays.

JMU did return a punt for a TD (Scotty McGee). After that NCCU looked like they didn't want to kick off to him (I'm sure they saw film of his 5 ko retuns for 157 yds vs Duke and they probably knew of his 2 ko returns for TDs last 2 seasons).

Coen sounded awesome. JMU's secondary is pretty decent. Hopefully for JMU can they bring enough heat with the DL. Think we're going see a lot of points scored. Should be good game next week.

[ElGuapo Hoy]

What a great game to watch. It's interesting to see that the offense is pulling the team through the first two games. Shows what a veteran QB can mean to a team as they were the unit that lost the majority of it's players.

Many UMass faithful often criticize the offense and the play calling, which is ironic since they are performing very well and winning the game for UMasss. I have faith Coach Brown with fix the defense or else we are in trouble starting next Saturday.

[Col Hogan]

What a great game to watch. It's interesting to see that the offense is pulling the team through the first two games. Shows what a veteran QB can mean to a team as they were the unit that lost the majority of it's players.

Many UMass faithful often criticize the offense and the play calling, which is ironic since they are performing very well and winning the game for UMasss. I have faith Coach Brown with fix the defense or else we are in trouble starting next Saturday.

Can't criticize the offense this year...the line is protecting Liam and opening holes for Tony...Horne, Cruz and company are catching and running...

It's the "D" that Coach Brown and the fans are worried about...between less than stellar play and penalties...xnonono2xxnonono2x

Its going to be a tough week in practice.....

[art vandelay]

i agree the top PL teams can compete with anyone in the fcs just ask 2003 Colgate. but Umass has had a tough time with PL teams the were having off seasons in the past. in fact i belive colgate beat them a couple of years ago and they finished near the bottom of the PL and Umass i thought was pretty good that year i mite be wrong though.

[Maroon&White]

i agree the top PL teams can compete with anyone in the fcs just ask 2003 Colgate. but Umass has had a tough time with PL teams the were having off seasons in the past. in fact i belive colgate beat them a couple of years ago and they finished near the bottom of the PL and Umass i thought was pretty good that year i mite be wrong though.

Thanks Tim Day