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AppGuy04
October 26th, 2005, 02:58 PM
I know this is D2, but still mind boggling
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2203859
SunCoastBlueHen
October 26th, 2005, 03:08 PM
The article says that Central Washington scored 27 pts in 79 seconds or .34 pts per second. That beat the old record set by DIII Mt. Union who scored 21 pts. in 33 seconds or .64 pts per second. While 27 pts. in 79 seconds may sound more impressive, how do they measure it as a "record'?
grizband
October 26th, 2005, 03:09 PM
That is nuts. The closest thing to that I've ever seen was in a high school game my sophomore year. A team scores a touchdown, then recovers a fumbled kickoff and scores a touchdown one play later. 14 points in 11 seconds.
LacesOut
October 26th, 2005, 03:14 PM
I hope the Philadelphia Eagles can do that to the Broncos this Sunday.
89Hen
October 26th, 2005, 03:31 PM
Nah, nothing tops your ASU/FU game from 2002.
Go for 2 (http://www.barthle.com/streamingroot/flash/asu_football/furman2002/4q_2pt_gamewinner.htm)
Grande Rosso
October 26th, 2005, 04:10 PM
Nah, nothing tops your ASU/FU game from 2002.
Go for 2 (http://www.barthle.com/streamingroot/flash/asu_football/furman2002/4q_2pt_gamewinner.htm)
Thanks for posting that link. I hadn't seen that for a couple years.
Which team kicks off after the defending team runs back the PAT?
WUTNDITWAA
October 26th, 2005, 04:12 PM
Furman
Jacks99
October 26th, 2005, 04:19 PM
The article says that Central Washington scored 27 pts in 79 seconds or .34 pts per second. That beat the old record set by DIII Mt. Union who scored 21 pts. in 33 seconds or .64 pts per second. While 27 pts. in 79 seconds may sound more impressive, how do they measure it as a "record'?
I agree. That doesn't sound right.
Jacks99
October 26th, 2005, 04:21 PM
Thanks for posting that link. I hadn't seen that for a couple years.
Which team kicks off after the defending team runs back the PAT?
That's amazing, first time I've seen or heard that.
TypicalTribe
October 26th, 2005, 04:23 PM
Nah, nothing tops your ASU/FU game from 2002.
Go for 2 (http://www.barthle.com/streamingroot/flash/asu_football/furman2002/4q_2pt_gamewinner.htm)
Without a doubt, one of the worst coaching decisions and play calls of all time.
bison95
October 26th, 2005, 04:28 PM
Nah, nothing tops your ASU/FU game from 2002.
Go for 2 (http://www.barthle.com/streamingroot/flash/asu_football/furman2002/4q_2pt_gamewinner.htm)
:doh:
Man that's amazing
bandl
October 26th, 2005, 04:31 PM
Nah, nothing tops your ASU/FU game from 2002.
Go for 2 (http://www.barthle.com/streamingroot/flash/asu_football/furman2002/4q_2pt_gamewinner.htm)
Was the coach investigated for cheating??? Because there is absolutely no reason to ever go for 2 in that situation....unless he was trying to beat a 2-point spread.
AZGrizFan
October 26th, 2005, 04:44 PM
That is nuts. The closest thing to that I've ever seen was in a high school game my sophomore year. A team scores a touchdown, then recovers a fumbled kickoff and scores a touchdown one play later. 14 points in 11 seconds.
Went to a Class C (8 man) game in Washington State in the late 80's. The opening kickoff was run back for a touchdown. The ensuing kickoff was run back for a touchdown. The ensuing kickoff was AGAIN run back for a touchdown. 14-7, about 21 seconds into the game. Absolutely nuts. Gotta love 8-man football! That's where they got the idea for the Arena League--it's a friggin' track meet!
OL FU
October 26th, 2005, 04:44 PM
Was the coach investigated for cheating??? Because there is absolutely no reason to ever go for 2 in that situation....unless he was trying to beat a 2-point spread.
xidiotx
But I think he learned :eek: :o
Rick C
October 27th, 2005, 06:41 PM
Was the coach investigated for cheating??? Because there is absolutely no reason to ever go for 2 in that situation....unless he was trying to beat a 2-point spread.
Not true. Here is the circumstance - you score to go up by one. If you kick an extra point, you go up by two, and can still be beaten on a field goal. If you make a two-point conversion, you go up by three, and a field goal does not beat you - it just causes the game to go to overtime.
The play that was run was not the play that was called. Furman was out of TO's, and with the excitement of scoring there was not much time to get in a play. The QB misunderstood the signal, and the rest is history. By the way, Furman did exactly the same thing this year against ASU. After scoring to go up by 1 with less than 1 minute to play, Furman went for two (and converted - fullback off tackle). ASU converted some quick passes and had a FG attempt to tie the game. The FG was blocked, but if it had been good it would only have sent the game into OT, rather than winning it as would have been the case if Furman had kicked an XP instead.
ASU Kep
October 27th, 2005, 06:55 PM
Not true. Here is the circumstance - you score to go up by one. If you kick an extra point, you go up by two, and can still be beaten on a field goal. If you make a two-point conversion, you go up by three, and a field goal does not beat you - it just causes the game to go to overtime.
The play that was run was not the play that was called. Furman was out of TO's, and with the excitement of scoring there was not much time to get in a play. The QB misunderstood the signal, and the rest is history. By the way, Furman did exactly the same thing this year against ASU. After scoring to go up by 1 with less than 1 minute to play, Furman went for two (and converted - fullback off tackle). ASU converted some quick passes and had a FG attempt to tie the game. The FG was blocked, but if it had been good it would only have sent the game into OT, rather than winning it as would have been the case if Furman had kicked an XP instead.
Yah, but there were :34 seconds left this year...plus your coach had the good sense to keep it on the ground (I was there chanting "Go for two! Go for two!"...it was awesome...til ya'll scored). Anyway, in the "Miracle on the Mountain" you were up by 1 with SEVEN SECONDS LEFT. After the time given for kickoff, one play to get in range...THERE IS NO WAY WE COULD HAVE SCORED A FG. For a bunch of guys that cannot stop talking about their SAT scores, you certainly do put up with one hell of a dumb coach.
UNHWildCats
October 27th, 2005, 06:56 PM
I know this is D2, but still mind boggling
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2203859
kool video, the guy that returned it Liles has the same last name is me, wonder if its any relation
ASU Kep
October 27th, 2005, 07:03 PM
Hey App fans, anybody know where I can get a permanent copy of this video? You know, just in case something happens to the internet? I've never seen this version before...just the one on goasu.com...which is shorter but it gives a better view of the crowd going apes--t. Please, please, please...
AppGuy04
October 27th, 2005, 07:04 PM
I thought it was a great coaching decision :D
Rick C
October 27th, 2005, 07:07 PM
Yah, but there were :34 seconds left this year...plus your coach had the good sense to keep it on the ground (I was there chanting "Go for two! Go for two!"...it was awesome...til ya'll scored). Anyway, in the "Miracle on the Mountain" you were up by 1 with SEVEN SECONDS LEFT. After the time given for kickoff, one play to get in range...THERE IS NO WAY WE COULD HAVE SCORED A FG. For a bunch of guys that cannot stop talking about their SAT scores, you certainly do put up with one hell of a dumb coach.
I agree that ASU couldn't have scored in 7 seconds. The "book" says that you go for 2 when you are up by 1 before the conversion, late in the game. However, the "book" probably needs to be amended to say that with 7 seconds left, you don't even take the chance of an extra point (because a blocked extra point can be run back too, for one point). I think in the same situation again, he would call for a QB sneak.
Although that turned out to be a bad decision, do you really think he is a dumb coach? Remember, that was his first year as head coach at ANY level. I thought he was entitled to a mistake or two. He seems to be making the right decisions to win this year, even with a very young defense. I think it is without question to say that Furman is happier with their coach than ASU is with their's...
UNHWildCats
October 27th, 2005, 07:09 PM
Hey App fans, anybody know where I can get a permanent copy of this video? You know, just in case something happens to the internet? I've never seen this version before...just the one on goasu.com...which is shorter but it gives a better view of the crowd going apes--t. Please, please, please...
Click tools on ur IE bar and select Internet Options under temp internet files click settings then selected view files delete all the temp files then load the video again when it downloads the video will show up there. then just drag it from the files foilder to ur desktop and then u have the video forever.
ASU Kep
October 27th, 2005, 07:10 PM
I was just kidding about Coach Lamb being dumb...although you have to admit that was an INCREDIBLY *dumb* call. As far as Moore vs. Lamb, I think there are about two people from our respective schools that want to see Moore/Lamb go. Only one from our message board comes to mind, and hes an idiot.
ASU Kep
October 27th, 2005, 07:11 PM
Click tools on ur IE bar and select Internet Options under temp internet files click settings then selected view files delete all the temp files then load the video again when it downloads the video will show up there. then just drag it from the files foilder to ur desktop and then u have the video forever.
You're my hero.
Hofstra90
October 27th, 2005, 07:21 PM
The article says that Central Washington scored 27 pts in 79 seconds or .34 pts per second. That beat the old record set by DIII Mt. Union who scored 21 pts. in 33 seconds or .64 pts per second. While 27 pts. in 79 seconds may sound more impressive, how do they measure it as a "record'?
I think they count it simply because nobody had ever scored 27 points in such a short time period. Otherwise, the record could be like "grizband"s example: 14 points in 11 seconds (1.273 pts per second).
blukeys
October 27th, 2005, 07:28 PM
Click tools on ur IE bar and select Internet Options under temp internet files click settings then selected view files delete all the temp files then load the video again when it downloads the video will show up there. then just drag it from the files foilder to ur desktop and then u have the video forever.
I agree with ASU Kep you are my hero but please there was no A-10 in 1947. There is nothing wrong with being Yankee Conference Champs. Umass fans emphasize this every chance they can. They yearn for the days before UD became a part of the Yankee Con. ;) ;) ;)
UNHWildCats
October 27th, 2005, 07:32 PM
I agree with ASU Kep you are my hero but please there was no A-10 in 1947. There is nothing wrong with being Yankee Conference Champs. Umass fans emphasize this every chance they can. They yearn for the days before UD became a part of the Yankee Con. ;) ;) ;)
LOL yea i know so all them Yankee Conference Championships and we're gonna add our one and only A10 this year before theres a new conference next year
LOL
SoCon48
October 27th, 2005, 08:28 PM
I was just kidding about Coach Lamb being dumb...although you have to admit that was an INCREDIBLY *dumb* call. As far as Moore vs. Lamb, I think there are about two people from our respective schools that want to see Moore/Lamb go. Only one from our message board comes to mind, and hes an idiot.
Actually there's about 3 or 4. Go on there and take up for Moore and they'll flame hell out of you. Anything less than a NC and they will still be calling for the head of the winningest coach in ASU history. In his entire term at App, he hasn't had a losing season vs I-AA competition and you can count the number of patsies and D-2's on one hand.
Lamb has done a good job of coaching this year in pulling out last minute wins.
ASU Kep
October 27th, 2005, 08:58 PM
Wow...theres just no pleasing some people, I guess. Jerry Moore made ASU what we are today, hes the winningest coach in school history, his players (from all I've heard) love him, and IMHO it might not be long before we get that *National Championship*. Yes, we've had a tough time in the playoffs. Yes, we've had at least 5-10 teams that could've won a NC but didn't. But how uncommon is that? It happens all the time. Sometimes things just don't turn out your way. A sign of a good coach is consistency and flexibility (as well as the almighty 'W'). ASU has been a consistent force in the SOCON, year-in, year-out, through teams with incredible talent (i.e. ASU 2005) to some others that havn't. Through the years we've been a run-based team. It's what Moore had done for years: until DaVon and Richie showed up. We switched to a no-huddle, racked up seemingly unbelieveable yards through the air and forced teams to recognize both our run game (well, last year was an exception) and our passing game. Thats the sign of a good coach. Some guys who've been around for a while will say "my way or the highway". Moore didn't. He created a new offense to suit our team NOW. That time and effort is paying pretty big dividends as of late. Ask GSU, CCU, Wofford, Citadel, E. Kentucky this year. Ask the past 14 teams that've driven home from KBS losers (soon to be 15...16). We've had ONE losing season in Moore's tenure. One. We've been to the playoffs 11 times (counting this year...heh). We've been to the semi's. We're close. Disrespecting the man who has taken us here just because he hasn't taken us all the way when we are SO close is ridiculous. Who better? Moore has by his own account turned down offers from school with much more "national recognition" because he loves being HERE. And why wouldn't he?
Our time is coming...
Soon.
AppGuy04
October 28th, 2005, 09:08 AM
Click tools on ur IE bar and select Internet Options under temp internet files click settings then selected view files delete all the temp files then load the video again when it downloads the video will show up there. then just drag it from the files foilder to ur desktop and then u have the video forever.
not working for me, never shows up in the folder
89Hen
October 28th, 2005, 09:25 AM
I agree that ASU couldn't have scored in 7 seconds.
The correct call is actually to take a knee. Even a PAT can be blocked and returned.
AppGuy04
October 28th, 2005, 09:29 AM
The correct call is actually to take a knee. Even a PAT can be blocked and returned.
u'd have to run around for a few seconds first
89Hen
October 28th, 2005, 09:33 AM
BTW, speaking of odd finishes, anybody catch the end of the UVA/UNC game last week? UNC was leading 7-5 with 7 seconds left and 4th down on about their own 22. They punt and UVA rushes 11. UNC gets the punt off and they run down field to touch it up with no time on the clock, but instead of touching it, the stupid Heel decides to kick the ball soccer style in celebration. I immediately shout at the TV that it was a penalty. Sure enough 'Illegal Kicking' is called. But instead of it being UVA ball with a yardage penalty from the spot, it's UNC's ball with a half the distance to the goal penalty, replay 4th down. Only problem is there is no time on the clock. UNC takes a knee on 4th and the game is over. :confused: :cool:
89Hen
October 28th, 2005, 09:34 AM
u'd have to run around for a few seconds first
Not a timed play. You'd still have to kickoff with :07 even if you ran around for a minute. Point is, going up by 2 is no advantage over 1, so why even attempt the PAT.
AppGuy04
October 28th, 2005, 09:35 AM
BTW, speaking of odd finishes, anybody catch the end of the UVA/UNC game last week? UNC was leading 7-5 with 7 seconds left and 4th down on about their own 22. They punt and UVA rushes 11. UNC gets the punt off and they run down field to touch it up with no time on the clock, but instead of touching it, the stupid Heel decides to kick the ball soccer style in celebration. I immediately shout at the TV that it was a penalty. Sure enough 'Illegal Kicking' is called. But instead of it being UVA ball with a yardage penalty from the spot, it's UNC's ball with a half the distance to the goal penalty, replay 4th down. Only problem is there is no time on the clock. UNC takes a knee on 4th and the game is over. :confused: :cool:
yeah, saw that, thought that was a stupid play, kinda wish it would have been a loss of down play and UVA got the ball
89Hen
October 28th, 2005, 09:43 AM
kinda wish it would have been a loss of down play and UVA got the ball
You and me both. I'm a Wahoo fan. :(
AppGuy04
October 28th, 2005, 09:46 AM
You and me both. I'm a Wahoo fan. :(
I'm not UVA fan, but i graduated from NC State, thus the hatred
OL FU
October 28th, 2005, 09:55 AM
Not true. Here is the circumstance - you score to go up by one. If you kick an extra point, you go up by two, and can still be beaten on a field goal. If you make a two-point conversion, you go up by three, and a field goal does not beat you - it just causes the game to go to overtime.
The play that was run was not the play that was called. Furman was out of TO's, and with the excitement of scoring there was not much time to get in a play. The QB misunderstood the signal, and the rest is history. By the way, Furman did exactly the same thing this year against ASU. After scoring to go up by 1 with less than 1 minute to play, Furman went for two (and converted - fullback off tackle). ASU converted some quick passes and had a FG attempt to tie the game. The FG was blocked, but if it had been good it would only have sent the game into OT, rather than winning it as would have been the case if Furman had kicked an XP instead.
Not with 7 seconds left.
OL FU
October 28th, 2005, 09:58 AM
Yah, but there were :34 seconds left this year...plus your coach had the good sense to keep it on the ground (I was there chanting "Go for two! Go for two!"...it was awesome...til ya'll scored). Anyway, in the "Miracle on the Mountain" you were up by 1 with SEVEN SECONDS LEFT. After the time given for kickoff, one play to get in range...THERE IS NO WAY WE COULD HAVE SCORED A FG. For a bunch of guys that cannot stop talking about their SAT scores, you certainly do put up with one hell of a dumb coach.
We will keep him. You don't hear the Furman fans yelling for our coaches head. However, you consistently hear ASU yelling for Moore's. I think it says more about the intellect of the fans. How many winning seasons in a row does ASU have?
OL FU
October 28th, 2005, 10:00 AM
I was just kidding about Coach Lamb being dumb...although you have to admit that was an INCREDIBLY *dumb* call. As far as Moore vs. Lamb, I think there are about two people from our respective schools that want to see Moore/Lamb go. Only one from our message board comes to mind, and hes an idiot.
I think there are about two people from our respective schools that want to see Moore go.
Not last year.
AppGuy04
October 28th, 2005, 10:41 AM
When will people realize that the players play the game, not the coaches.
I mean damn, if Napier doesn't throw the INT, it isn't an issue
OL FU
October 28th, 2005, 10:46 AM
When will people realize that the players play the game, not the coaches.
I mean damn, if Napier doesn't throw the INT, it isn't an issue
That is true. It was a total FU from start to finish. Should not have went for two. Should not have tried a pass play. Should not have pass laterally. Geez, who brought this up anyway. Oh yeah, 89 thanks alot. :)
AppGuy04
October 28th, 2005, 12:13 PM
It does guarantee that no team will ever do it again
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