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wkuhillhound
August 29th, 2008, 02:06 PM
Rank/Team/Rating/Sag Rating
1) Appalachian State 69.22 70
2) Massachusetts 67.48 77
3) North Dakota State 66.79 83
4) Northern Iowa 66.46 84
5) James Madison 65.74 87
6) Southern Illinois 64.64 89
7) Montana 64.21 91
8) New Hampshire 62.83 97
9) Delaware 62.67 99
10) Richmond 62.60 100
11) Youngstown State 61.63 105
12) Villanova 59.96 109
13) Eastern Washington 59.92 110
14) Furman 59.65 113
15) Wofford 59.47 115
16) Georgia Southern 59.37 116
17) Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo 58.75 121
18) South Dakota State 58.27 123
19) Harvard 58.18 124
20) Hofstra 57.77 126
21) Yale 56.78 131
22) Illinois State 56.48 132
23) UC Davis 56.29 134
24) McNeese State 56.01 135
25) North Dakota 54.89 137

Top Ten others:
Western Illinois, William & Mary, Maine, Northeastern, Northern Arizona
Portland State, Montana State, Lehigh, Citadel, Penn

Thoughts?

Source: http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/cfsend.htm

wkuhillhound
September 2nd, 2008, 10:23 PM
Sagarin Ratings after Week 1

Rank/Team/Record/Points/Sag Rank
1) Appalachian State (0 - 1) 71.55 60
2) Northern Iowa (0 - 1) 67.18 78
3) Southern Illinois (0 - 0) 65.61 85
4) Montana (0 - 0) 65.16 89
5) Delaware (0 - 1) 64.79 91
6) Richmond (1 - 0) 64.22 94
7) Villanova (0 - 1) 64.17 95
8) New Hampshire (0 - 0) 63.71 99
9) Georgia Southern (0 - 1) 63.68 100
10) Massachusetts (1 - 0) 63.12 101
11) Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo (1 - 0) 62.59 103
12) Eastern Washington (0 - 1) 62.43 104
13) Youngstown State (0 - 1) 62.19 105
14) North Dakota State (1 - 0) 61.46 109
15) Western Illinois (0 - 1) 61.03 112
16) Furman (1 - 0) 60.37 114
17) James Madison (0 - 1) 59.07 122
18) Harvard (0 - 0) 58.83 123
19) McNeese State (0 - 1) 58.21 125
20) Northern Arizona (0 - 1) 58.02 126
21) Yale (0 - 0) 57.36 129
22) South Dakota State (0 - 1) 56.36 132
23) UC Davis (0 - 1) 56.22 133
24) Hofstra (0 - 1) 55.76 136
25) Wofford (1 - 0) 55.73 137

Top Ten others list:
North Dakota, William & Mary, Portland State, Montana State, Lehigh,
Illinois State, Citadel, Maine, Eastern Kentucky, Pennsylvania

It is probably laughable at this point. This is just to point out that not every team has played yet so some the rankings are skewed because of it.

OhioHen
September 3rd, 2008, 08:59 AM
Teams from the Sagarin Top 25 who won and had their rating decrease xnonono2x xnonono2x
Massachusetts
North Dakota State
Richmond

Teams from the Sagarin Top 25 who lost and had their rating increase xconfusedx
Appalachian State
Northern Iowa
Delaware
Youngstown State
McNeese State
Villanova
Eastern Washington
Wofford
Georgia Southern

Idle teams who had their rating increase xlolx
Southern Illinois
Montana
New Hampshire
Harvard
Yale

It's not how you do, it's who you play. And in some cases, it's not even who you play, but who you're going to play later and who they played.

Computer ratings are skewed by pre-bias of the system design(er) and don't have any relevance until everyone has played at least five games. Even then, some computer ratings are more realistic than others.

appfan2008
September 3rd, 2008, 09:05 AM
I am shocked at how low ndsu is...

OhioHen
September 3rd, 2008, 09:22 AM
I am shocked at how low ndsu is...

They were penalized for beating Austin Peay. That's the problem with most computer ratings. A win isn't a win unless it's against a higher rated team. And a loss isn't a loss unless it's against a lower rated team. If you check the ratings, you'll probably find that LSU (a winning team in week 1) had their rating drop by defeating the three-time defending champions.

Pauly LB
September 3rd, 2008, 09:57 AM
Rank/Team/Rating/Sag Rating
1) Appalachian State 69.22 70
2) Massachusetts 67.48 77
3) North Dakota State 66.79 83
4) Northern Iowa 66.46 84
5) James Madison 65.74 87
6) Southern Illinois 64.64 89
7) Montana 64.21 91
8) New Hampshire 62.83 97
9) Delaware 62.67 99
10) Richmond 62.60 100
11) Youngstown State 61.63 105
12) Villanova 59.96 109
13) Eastern Washington 59.92 110
14) Furman 59.65 113
15) Wofford 59.47 115
16) Georgia Southern 59.37 116
17) Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo 58.75 121
18) South Dakota State 58.27 123
19) Harvard 58.18 124
20) Hofstra 57.77 126
21) Yale 56.78 131
22) Illinois State 56.48 132
23) UC Davis 56.29 134
24) McNeese State 56.01 135
25) North Dakota 54.89 137

Top Ten others:
Western Illinois, William & Mary, Maine, Northeastern, Northern Arizona
Portland State, Montana State, Lehigh, Citadel, Penn

Thoughts?

Source: http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/cfsend.htm

SORRY, but if you open the attachment you will find that the rankings listed above are incorrect. Following are the actual rankings thru week #1 as taken from the attachment that was provided for the top 15 teams:

Rank/Team/Rating/Sag Rating

1) App State / 71.55/60
2) N Iowa / 67.18 / 78
3) S Illinois / 65.61 / 85
4) Montana / 65.16 / 89
5) Delaware / 64.79 / 91
6) Richmond / 64.22 / 94
7) Villanova / 64.17 / 95
8) New Hampshire / 63.71 / 99
9) U Mass / 63.12 / 101
10) Cal Poly / 62.59 / 103
11) E Washington / 62.43 / 104
12) Youngstown St / 62.19 / 105
13) N Dakota St / 61.46 / 109
14) W Illinois / 61.03 / 112
15) Furman / 60.31 / 114

wkuhillhound
September 3rd, 2008, 11:25 AM
SORRY, but if you open the attachment you will find that the rankings listed above are incorrect. Following are the actual rankings thru week #1 as taken from the attachment that was provided for the top 15 teams:

Rank/Team/Rating/Sag Rating

1) App State / 71.55/60
2) N Iowa / 67.18 / 78
3) S Illinois / 65.61 / 85
4) Montana / 65.16 / 89
5) Delaware / 64.79 / 91
6) Richmond / 64.22 / 94
7) Villanova / 64.17 / 95
8) New Hampshire / 63.71 / 99
9) U Mass / 63.12 / 101
10) Cal Poly / 62.59 / 103
11) E Washington / 62.43 / 104
12) Youngstown St / 62.19 / 105
13) N Dakota St / 61.46 / 109
14) W Illinois / 61.03 / 112
15) Furman / 60.31 / 114

Georgia Southern is in the SoCon and was ranked 100th in the Sagarin ratings when I opened the attachment. I was correct.

wkuhillhound
September 7th, 2008, 10:36 PM
Week 2 of College Football Sagarin ratings.

Rank/Team/Record/Points/Sag Rank
1) Appalachian State (1 - 1) 68.97 71
2) Montana (1 - 0) 65.47 83
3) New Hampshire (1 - 0) 64.18 88
4) Massachusetts (2 - 0) 63.80 92
5) Richmond (1 - 1) 63.08 96
6) Northern Iowa (1 - 1) 62.78 100
7) Eastern Washington (0 - 2) 62.76 102
8) Delaware (0 - 1) 62.42 103
9) Southern Illinois (1 - 0) 62.18 104
10) North Dakota State (2 - 0) 62.10 105
11) Furman (1 - 1) 61.35 110
12) Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo (1 - 1) 60.86 111
13) South Dakota State (1 - 1) 60.85 112
14) Villanova (0 - 1) 60.48 115
15) Harvard (0 - 0) 59.20 120
16) James Madison (1 - 1) 58.92 123
17) Georgia Southern (1 - 1) 58.15 124
18) Western Illinois (1 - 1) 58.02 125
19) Yale (0 - 0) 57.70 127
20) McNeese State (1 - 1) 57.34 128
21) Northern Arizona (1 - 1) 56.79 129
22) North Dakota (2 - 0) 55.69 132
23) Wofford (2 - 0) 55.51 136
24) Hofstra (0 - 1) 55.43 137
25) William & Mary (0 - 1) 55.14 139

Top 10 just missed the cut:
Youngstown State, Portland State, Lehigh, UC Davis, The Citadel,
Illinois State, Pennsylvania, Maine, Northeastern, Central Arkansas

*Still not everyone has played because of the Ivies or teams have not played a Division I opponent.

wkuhillhound
September 15th, 2008, 12:18 PM
Week 3 College Football Sagarin Ratings

Rank/Team/Record/Points/Sag Rank
1) Appalachian State (1 - 1) 68.16 73
2) Montana (2 - 0) 66.73 80
3) Richmond (2 - 1) 64.19 91
4) Northern Iowa (1 - 1) 63.75 93
5) Delaware (1 - 1) 63.38 97
6) James Madison (2 - 1) 62.79 99
7) Massachusetts (2 - 1) 62.50 101
8) Furman (2 - 1) 62.49 102
9) Eastern Washington (0 - 2) 62.32 103
10) New Hampshire (2 - 0) 62.28 104
11) Villanova (1 - 1) 61.90 107
12) South Dakota State (2 - 1) 60.41 111
13) Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo (1 - 1) 60.24 112
14) North Dakota State (2 - 1) 60.16 113
15) Southern Illinois (1 - 1) 59.78 115
16) Harvard (0 - 0) 59.16 119
17) Georgia Southern (2 - 1) 59.07 120
18) McNeese State (1 - 1) 58.86 122
19) Yale (0 - 0) 57.69 127
20) Western Illinois (1 - 2) 57.04 129
21) UC Davis (1 - 2) 55.84 132
22) North Dakota (3 - 0) 55.70 133
23) Wofford (2 - 0) 55.46 134
24) Northern Arizona (1 - 1) 55.26 136
25) William & Mary (1 - 1) 54.73 139

Top 10 just missed the cut:
Youngstown State, Citadel, Montana State, Illinois State, Central Arkansas, Pennsylvania, Northeastern, Maine, Lehigh, Elon

*surprising that Elon finally makes an appearance.
*just entertainment

Source:http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/cfsend.htm

89Hen
September 16th, 2008, 12:11 PM
16) Harvard (0 - 0) 59.16 119
19) Yale (0 - 0) 57.69 127
Maybe they should cancel the rest of the season. At the rate they're moving up without playing they could be #1 and 2 by week 9. xlolx xnutsx

I do love computers. xcoffeex