WINS VS. FBS Last four years

[JDC325]

Does anyone have a good list of the FCS wins over FBS the last four years.
Some radio douche in the ATL John Kincade for those that know was trashing GSU and the FCS in general. He ranted and ranted on how "Div I" teams should not be allowed to play "lower division teams". I responded to him and admitted that no doubt sure on average or in general there is a big talent gap between FCS and the FBS just like FCS and DIV II. However I said the top echelon teams in the FCS beat non BCS teams pretty regularly and there is overlap in talent between every division. Just like top DIV II could easily handle a lot of FCS teams. He did not want to hear that and said basically it was just luck and basically FCS teams only beat FBS teams due to the FBS team not playing well or "weird" bounces. Just want to send him a list of all the games that had "weird bounces". xpeacex

[UNHWildCats]

UNH is 3-0 in the past four years with wins at Rutgers, at Northeastern and at Marshall.

[mcveyrl]

UNH is 3-0 in the past four years with wins at Rutgers, at Northeastern and at Marshall.

I think he means Northwestern...although I'm pretty sure they beat Northeastern on a regular basis.

[elcid96]

Here is a post earlier about the same thing:

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29803&page=3

[elcid96]

*Appalachian State 34 Michigan 32
Nicholls State 16 Rice 14
Northern Iowa 24 Iowa State 13
*Southern Illinois 34 Northern Illinois 31
*McNeese State 38 Lousiana Lafayette 17
*New Hampshire 48 Marshall 35
NDSU's wins over Central Michigan and Minnesota
UD beat Navy

[DuckDuckGriz]

I know it's Idaho - but Montana is 4-1 vs UI since they moved to FBS.

Also the Griz beat Oregon State 35-14 ten years ago.

More recently though:

Portland State over New Mexico
Montana State over Colorado
Portland State over Hawaii
Idaho State over Utah State
Maine over Ole Miss

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Cal Poly over San Diego State

[813Jag]

I know it's Idaho - but Montana is 4-1 vs UI since they moved to FBS.

Also the Griz beat Oregon State 35-14 ten years ago.

More recently though:

Portland State over New Mexico
Montana State over Colorado
Portland State over Hawaii
Idaho State over Utah State
Maine over Ole Miss
Maine beat Mississippi State

[UAalum72]

There was a list on I-AA.org or CSN (which should be back soon, the home page is up but the links don't work yet). IIRC the average for the last 8-10 years was FCS winning about one out of eight.

[UAalum72]

Found the list thru 2006
I-AA vs. I-A ('00-'06)

I-AA.org



2006 I-AA v. I-A, 78 Games, I-AA record: 7-71 (*= Win)
(I-AA was 69-31 vs. non-D-I competition, 18 losses by non-scholarship teams)

8/31 Rhode Island @ Connecticut, Connecticut 52-7
8/31 Northern Ariz @ Arizona State, Arizona State 35-14
8/31 Sacramento St @ Boise State, Boise State 45-0
8/31 SE Louisiana @ New Mexico St, New Mexico St 30-15
8/31 Eastern Wash @ Oregon State, Oregon State 56-17
8/31 Stephen F. Austin @ Tulsa, Tulsa 45-7
8/31 Alcorn State @ UL-Monroe, UL-Monroe 24-6
9/2 *Montana State @ Colorado, Montana State 19-10
9/2 *Portland State @ New Mexico, Portland State 17-6
9/2 *Richmond @ Duke, Richmond 13-0
9/2 Eastern Ky @ Cincinnati, Cincinnati 31-0
9/2 Weber State @ Colorado State, Colorado State 30-6
9/2 Western Ky @ Georgia, Georgia 48-12
9/2 Eastern Ill @ Illinois, Illinois 42-17
9/2 Montana @ Iowa, Iowa 41-7
9/2 Northwestern St @ Kansas, Kansas 49-18
9/2 Illinois State @ Kansas State, Kansas State 24-23
9/2 Wm & Mary @ Maryland, Maryland 27-14
9/2 Murray State @ Missouri, Missouri 47-7
9/2 Appalachian St @ NC State, NC State 23-10
9/2 Tenn-Martin @ Ohio U, Ohio U 29-3
9/2 Missouri State @ Oklahoma State, Oklahoma State 52-10
9/2 Indiana State @ Purdue, Purdue 60-35
9/2 McNeese State @ So Florida, So Florida 41-10
9/2 The Citadel @ Texas A&M, Texas A&M 35-3
9/2 Alabama State @ Troy, Troy 38-0
9/2 Villanova @ UCF, UCF 35-16
9/2 Idaho State @ UNLV, UNLV 54-10
9/2 Northeastern @ Virginia Tech, Virginia Tech 38-0
9/9 *New Hampshire @ Northwestern, New Hampshire 34-17
9/9 Northwestern St @ Baylor, Baylor 47-10
9/9 Samford @ Georgia Tech, Georgia Tech 38-6
9/9 Texas State @ Kentucky, Kentucky 41-7
9/9 Hofstra @ Marshall, Marshall 54-31
9/9 Chattanooga @ Memphis, Memphis 33-14
9/9 Florida A&M @ Miami-Florida, Miami-Florida 51-10
9/9 Massachusetts @ Navy, Navy 21-20
9/9 Nicholls State @ Nebraska, Nebraska 56-7
9/9 UC Davis @ TCU, TCU 46-13
9/9 Northern Ariz @ Utah, Utah 45-7
9/9 Eastern Wash @ West Virginia, West Virginia 52-3
9/9 Western Ill @ Wisconsin, Wisconsin 34-10
9/9 Southeastern LA @ Southern Mississippi, Southern Mississippi 45-0
9/14 Tenn Tech @ Middle Tennessee, Middle Tennessee 44-0
9/16 *Southern Ill @ Indiana, Southern Ill 35-28
9/16 Stephen F. Austin @ Arizona, Arizona 28-10
9/16 Portland State @ California, California 42-16
9/16 Grambling @ Houston, Houston 42-22
9/16 Idaho State @ Idaho, Idaho 27-24
9/16 Nicholls State @ Louisiana Tech, Louisiana Tech 31-21
9/16 Texas Southern @ New Mexico St, New Mexico St 48-14
9/16 Furman @ North Carolina, North Carolina 45-42
9/16 Youngstown St @ Penn State, Penn State 37-3
9/16 Sam Houston State @ S-M-U, S-M-U 45-14
9/16 Wofford @ So Carolina, So Carolina 27-20
9/23 *North Dakota St @ Ball State, North Dakota St 29-24
9/23 Indiana State @ Northern Ill, Northern Ill 48-14
9/23 The Citadel @ Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh 51-6
9/23 Howard @ Rutgers, Rutgers 56-7
9/23 Cal Poly @ San Jose St, San Jose St 17-7
9/23 SE Louisiana @ Texas Tech, Texas Tech 62-0
9/23 McNeese State @ Toledo, Toledo 41-7
9/23 NC A&T @ UL Lafayette, UL Lafayette 48-7
9/23 Tenn St @ Vanderbilt, Vanderbilt 38-9
9/30 Maine @ Boston College, Boston College 22-0
9/30 Eastern Ill @ Hawaii, Hawaii 44-9
9/30 Northern Iowa @ Iowa State, Iowa State 28-27
9/30 Sam Houston State @ Texas, Texas 56-3
9/30 Liberty @ Wake Forest, Wake Forest 34-14
10/7 VMI @ Army, Army 62-7
10/12 Southern Utah @ Fla Atlantic, Fla Atlantic 32-7
10/14 SE Missouri St @ Arkansas, Arkansas 63-7
10/14 Jacksonville St @ Miss State, Miss State 35-3
10/21 North Dakota St @ Minnesota, Minnesota 10-9
10/28 *Cal Poly @ San Diego St, Cal Poly 16-14
10/28 Portland State @ Oregon, Oregon 55-12
11/4 Northwestern St @ Ole Miss, Ole Miss 27-7
11/18 Western Carolina @ Florida, Florida 62-0

Please report any errors or ommissions.

2005 I-AA v. I-A, 52 Games, I-AA record: 2-50 (*= Win)
(I-AA was 55-25 vs. non-D-I competition, 18 losses by non-scholarship schools)

*9/1 Northwestern St 27 @ LA Monroe 23
9/1 W Illinois 14 @ Toledo 62
9/1 William & Mary 24 @ Marshall 36
9/3 Cal Poly 10 @ Troy 27
9/3 Sacramento St 3 @ California 41
9/3 E Washington 24 @ San Jose St 35
9/3 Illinois St 21 @ Iowa St 32
9/3 Maine 7 @ Nebraska 25
9/3 Missouri St 17 @ Arkansas 49
9/3 Montana St 10 @ Oklahoma St 15
9/3 Murray St 6 @ Mississippi St 38
9/3 Portland St 14 @ Oregon St 41
9/10 Appalachian St 8 @ Kansas 36
9/10 The Citadel 10 @ Florida St 62
9/10 E Illinois 10 @ Brigham Young 45
9/10 Florida A&M 3 @ South Florida 37
9/10 Idaho St 29 @ Kentucky 41
9/10 Liberty 0 @ Connecticut 59
9/10 Montana 14 @ Oregon 47
9/10 N Arizona 12 @ Arizona 31
9/10 Nicholls St 31 @ Indiana 35
9/10 Sam Houston St 10 @ Houston 31
9/10 Samford 14 @ Baylor 48
9/10 SE Missouri St 12 @ Kent 33
9/10 TN Martin 7 @ Arkansas St 56
9/10 Villanova 6 @ Rutgers 38
9/10 Weber St 17 @ Fresno St 55
9/10 Wofford 7 @ West Virginia 35
9/17 Grambling 7 Washington St 48
9/17 E Kentucky 10 @ NC State 54
9/17 Jacksonville St 28 @ UAB 35
9/17 McNeese St 20 @ Southern Miss 48
9/17 Northern Iowa 21 @ Iowa 45
9/17 Northwestern St 28 @ LA Lafayette 49
9/17 S Illinois 28 @ W Michigan 34
9/17 Sam Houston St 21 @ Texas Tech 80
9/17 Tennessee Tech 3 @ N Illinois 42
*9/17 UC Davis 20 @ Stanford 17
9/17 VMI 14 @ Duke 40
9/22 Texas St 31 @ Texas A&M 44
9/24 Indiana St 7 @ Texas Tech 63
9/24 Richmond 13 @ Vanderbilt 37
9/24 W Kentucky 14 @ Auburn 37
9/24 Youngstown St 0 @ Pittsburgh 41
10/1 SE Louisiana 21 Tulane 28
10/1 Florida A&M 6 @ Florida Intl 23
10/8 Citadel 7 @ Mississippi 27
10/8 Portland St 14 @ Boise St 21
11/5 Appalachian St 0 @ LSU 24
11/12 Massachusetts 27 @ Army 34
11/12 TX Southern 0 @ Texas-El Paso 45
11/19 W Kentucky 35 @ Florida Intl 38

2004 I-AA v. I-A, 55 Games, I-AA record: 6-49 (*= Win)
(I-AA was 67-19 vs. non-D-I competition)

8/28 Indiana St. 0, Miami, Ohio 49
9/2 Tenn.-Martin 0, W. Michigan 42
9/4 Illinois 52, Florida A&M 13
9/4 N. Arizona 3, Arizona 21
9/4 Murray St. 14, Connecticut 52
9/4 Georgia Southern 28, Georgia 48
9/4 Samford 7, Georgia Tech 28
9/4 N. Iowa 0, Iowa St. 23
9/4 W. Kentucky 13, Kansas St. 27
9/4 Northwestern St. 7, Louisiana-Lafay. 14
9/4 Richmond 0, N. Carolina St. 42
9/4 W. Illinois 17, Nebraska 56
9/4 William & Mary 38, North Carolina 49
9/4 VMI 14, Ohio U. 42
9/4 Idaho St. 21, San Diego St. 38
9/4 Appalachian St. 7, Wyoming 53
*9/11 New Hampshire 35, Rutgers 24
9/11 Tulane 39, Florida A&M 19
9/11 E. Washington 20, Air Force 42
9/11 TX St-San Marcos 17, Baylor 24
9/11 SE Missouri 10, Bowling Green 49
9/11 Youngstown St. 16, Florida Int'l 22
9/11 Liberty 10, Kent 38
9/11 Tn.-Chattanooga 21, Memphis 52
9/11 Illinois St. 21, Minnesota 37
9/11 S. Illinois 22, N. Illinois 23
9/11 Northeastern 24, Navy 28
9/11 Sacramento St. 7, Nevada 59
9/11 Tennessee Tech 7, South Florida 21
9/11 Weber St. 0, Texas-El Paso 32
*9/18 Maine 9, Mississippi St. 7
9/18 Temple 38, Florida A&M 7
9/18 W. Carolina 0, Alabama 52
9/18 SE Missouri 27, Cent. Michigan 44
9/18 Portland St. 17, Fresno St. 27
9/18 Morgan St. 28, San Jose St. 47
9/18 N. Carolina A&T 3, Wake Forest 42
*9/25 E. Illinois 31, E. Michigan 28
9/25 Citadel 3, Auburn 33
9/25 Montana St. 14, Colorado St. 39
9/25 Furman 38, Pittsburgh 41
9/25 SW Missouri St. 7, Tulsa 49
9/25 James Madison 10, West Virginia 45
10/2 Massachusetts 7, Boston College 29
10/2 Citadel 10, Duke 28
10/9 TX St-San Marcos 13, Florida Atlantic 20
10/9 Stephen F.Austin 24, Florida Int'l 31
10/16 N. Colorado 24, Florida Atlantic 39
10/16 Virginia Tech 62, Florida A&M 0
*10/23 McNeese St. 30, Florida Int'l 27
10/23 Delaware 20, Navy 34
10/23 E. Kentucky 7, Vanderbilt 19
*11/13 Georgia Southern 53, Florida Int'l 32
*11/20 W. Kentucky 35, Florida Int'l 14
11/27 Florida Int’l 40, Florida A&M 23

2003 I-AA v. I-A, 64 Games, I-AA record: 10-54

2002 I-AA v. I-A, 59 Games, I-AA record: 7-52

2001 I-AA versus I-A, 52 Games + 6 Ppd., I-AA record: 7-45

2000 I-AA versus I-A, 45 Games, I-AA record: 13-32

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

I think he means Northwestern...although I'm pretty sure they beat Northeastern on a regular basis.

Sadly no, not of late.xbawlingx

[JMU1992]

John Kinkaid is a moron on many subjects.

[BEAR]

So basicly it looks like the FBS wins 50 for every 10 that FCS wins. A 5 to 1 ratio. xconfusedx

[KAUMASS]

They should win more...they have 22 more scholarships per team. If you think about it, they have another full squad for offense and defense of scholarship players that FCS doesn't have......or think about it this way...an NFL team has 53 players, think if they played another NFL team with 75 players available!! Depth my friend...

That reporter is a huckleberry..is the sports network hiring?

[UNCBears2010]

Total, FCS is 52-353 against the FBS over the last 7 years. That's slightly better than winning 1 of 8.

[JohnStOnge]

If you want to rebut the "weird bounces" thing, talk about the North Dakota State win over Minnesota last season. You can link the game stats at http://www.gophersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=38609&SPID=3280&DB_OEM_ID=8400&ATCLID=1284531

North Dakota State rushed for 394 yards at 8 yards per carry (Minnesota rushed for 125). The Bison had 27 first downs to Minnesota's 17. They had a 585 to 307 edge in total yards. They hit on 20 of 25 passing and had none intercepted while Minnesota hit on 11 of 23 with one interception.

So on and so forth. Total dominance. In fact, it's hard to see how Minnesota managed to stay in the game and lose by only 6 points. Certainly not a situation in which the transitional FCS won because of weird bounces.

[phillyAPP]

Total, FCS is 52-353 against the FBS over the last 7 years. That's slightly better than winning 1 of 8.


More research needs to be done. What about the top 15 FCS in the last 8-10 years ?

what is the record for FCS top 15 versus FBS ?

And App has a problem, only the top FBS teams will even schedule us.

[JohnStOnge]

More research needs to be done. What about the top 15 FCS in the last 8-10 years ?

what is the record for FCS top 15 versus FBS ?

And App has a problem, only the top FBS teams will even schedule us.

I maintain a database of how I-AA/FCS teams that went on to make the playoffs have done against I-A/FBS. It's not quite the "best" 16 (or 15) teams but I decided to do it that way because it's objective from my standpoint. Playoff teams are playoff teams. No concerns about debates over who was really in the group and who wasn't.

Overall during the past 10 seasons (1998-2007) it was 38-91; or about 1 in 3.4 games. The average score is 20-34 (I-AA/FCS score first).

But I think breaking it down into games vs. BCS league opponents and games vs. non BCS league opponents is informative.

Against BCS league opponents it's 10-56; or about 1 in 5.6 games. The average score is 16-37.

Against non BCS league I-A/FCS opponents it's 28-35; or about 1 in 2.3 games. The average score is 24-30.

Of course almost all of the games we're talking about were played at I-A/FBS home fields.

My guess is that if you did something like take the top 15 teams from final polls or from a power rating system like Sagarin the I-AA/FCS performace would look a little better but it'd probably be fairly similar.

[JohnStOnge]

I've always looked at Division I as really consisting of three levels: I-AA/FCS, non BCS I-A/FBS, and BCS I-A/FBS. The database I keep on that is only updated through 2006 (maybe I'll fix that this weekend) but I don't think things will change much when I add 2007. Here's how it went through 1998 - 2006:

I-AA/FCS vs. non BCS I-A/FBS: 58-264 (0.180); average score 17-36.
I-A/FBS non BCS vs. I-A/FBS BCS: 208-897 (0.188); average score 17-34.

Just to make sure it's clear: In this case I'm including all I-AA/FCS teams, not just playoff teams.

That's consistent with my belief that the difference between I-AA/FCS and I-A/FBS non BCS is comparable to the difference between I-A/FBS non BCS and I-A/FBS BCS. Also, I'm pretty sure the non BCS I-A/FBS non BCS teams got to play I-A/FBS BCS teams a higher percentage of the time than I-AA/FCS teams got to play at home against I-A/FBS non BCS teams.

[phillyAPP]

I've always looked at Division I as really consisting of three levels: I-AA/FCS, non BCS I-A/FBS, and BCS I-A/FBS. The database I keep on that is only updated through 2006 (maybe I'll fix that this weekend) but I don't think things will change much when I add 2007. Here's how it went through 1998 - 2006:

I-AA/FCS vs. non BCS I-A/FBS: 58-264 (0.180); average score 17-36.
I-A/FBS non BCS vs. I-A/FBS BCS: 208-897 (0.188); average score 17-34.

Just to make sure it's clear: In this case I'm including all I-AA/FCS teams, not just playoff teams.

That's consistent with my belief that the difference between I-AA/FCS and I-A/FBS non BCS is comparable to the difference between I-A/FBS non BCS and I-A/FBS BCS. Also, I'm pretty sure the non BCS I-A/FBS non BCS teams got to play I-A/FBS BCS teams a higher percentage of the time than I-AA/FCS teams got to play at home against I-A/FBS non BCS teams.


Now those are VALID numbers. This is the information REAL sports writers should be using to write articles.

Other info that show a true picture is that :
1) ALL the games are Home games for BCS/1A schools
2) 22 extra scholarships
3) 3-5 star recruits
4) larger and newer facilities
5) More Bigger and faster players- APP will have about a 30lb difference on both sides of the lines with LSU.

Thank you for the info. You should get it published somewhere.

[JohnStOnge]

1) ALL the games are Home games for BCS/1A schools


I think that's likely to be true from now on. I know the Sun Belt has a rule that its teams can't play FCS teams on the road. I think the MAC does too and wouldn't be surprised if at least some of the other FBS leagues do as well.

I only know of four games between I-A/FBS and I-AA/FCS played at I-AA home fields. I've got Idaho playing at Montana in 1999, 2001, and 2003 as well as Buffalo playing at UConn (then I-AA) in 1999. So I think there have now been five seasons with no I-A/FBS teams playing at I-AA/FCS fields.

[Thundering_Herd]

*Appalachian State 34 Michigan 32
Nicholls State 16 Rice 14
Northern Iowa 24 Iowa State 13
*Southern Illinois 34 Northern Illinois 31
*McNeese State 38 Lousiana Lafayette 17
*New Hampshire 48 Marshall 35
NDSU's wins over Central Michigan and Minnesota
UD beat Navy

And NDSU's win over Ball State. (I know,...Ball State- *****'s weak)
Will soon be able to add Wyoming to that list *crosses fingers*

[Go Bison]

If you want to rebut the "weird bounces" thing, talk about the North Dakota State win over Minnesota last season. You can link the game stats at http://www.gophersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=38609&SPID=3280&DB_OEM_ID=8400&ATCLID=1284531

North Dakota State rushed for 394 yards at 8 yards per carry (Minnesota rushed for 125). The Bison had 27 first downs to Minnesota's 17. They had a 585 to 307 edge in total yards. They hit on 20 of 25 passing and had none intercepted while Minnesota hit on 11 of 23 with one interception.

So on and so forth. Total dominance. In fact, it's hard to see how Minnesota managed to stay in the game and lose by only 6 points. Certainly not a situation in which the transitional FCS won because of weird bounces.

Minnesota scored on their first possession, then NDSU fumbled in the second quarter and the Gophers scored again. The last TD by Minnesota was after a roughing the passer penalty in the 3rd quarter. NDSU also missed two field goals xoopsx

NDSU took the lead in the fourth quarter and Minnesota never threatened to score. Actually the Gophers never even got past the 50 yard line in the final quarter. The game ended with NDSU having the ball in the red zone.

[IndianaAppMan]

Does anyone have a good list of the FCS wins over FBS the last four years.
Some radio douche in the ATL John Kincade for those that know was trashing GSU and the FCS in general. He ranted and ranted on how "Div I" teams should not be allowed to play "lower division teams". I responded to him and admitted that no doubt sure on average or in general there is a big talent gap between FCS and the FBS just like FCS and DIV II. However I said the top echelon teams in the FCS beat non BCS teams pretty regularly and there is overlap in talent between every division. Just like top DIV II could easily handle a lot of FCS teams. He did not want to hear that and said basically it was just luck and basically FCS teams only beat FBS teams due to the FBS team not playing well or "weird" bounces. Just want to send him a list of all the games that had "weird bounces". xpeacex

First, JDC325, kudos to you for calling in and making your points to him. It wasn't the popular thing to do, but I'm sure what you said was absolutely correct. It's astounding how ignorant people are about the strength of top 1AA teams. I tried to do the same kind of thing on ESPN Radio when John Sybel (Sports Nation show) said that Joe Flacco's chances for NFL success are iffy "because he played DIVISION ONE-DOUBLE-A." I wanted to get on the radio and remind him of other lowly former "ONE-DOUBLE-A" quarterbacks like Tony Romo, Kurt Warner, Steve McNair, and Rich Gannon, and that's just one position!

Second, this radio guy in Atlanta is just saying what the most number of people want to hear, and making it just controversial enough to get a reaction. In other words, he's saying things just to get good ratings regardless of how accurate he is. If he said that the FBS vs. FCS games are good or that they might prove competetive, larger numbers of his audience might write him off as ridiculous and stop listening to his show.

It just stinks that ignorance of how good the best 1AA teams are is a validated practice in media "journalism."

Not everyone is like that, though. Stewart Mandel, a senior college football writer at Sports Illustrated has given 1AA teams a lot of cred from time to time.

[IndianaAppMan]

And NDSU's win over Ball State. (I know,...Ball State- *****'s weak)
Will soon be able to add Wyoming to that list *crosses fingers*

Easy now... I'm in school now at Ball State, and the Cardinals went to the International Bowl last year, and they're not bad...

oh, who am I kidding?... Ball State football has no business being called 1A. i'm here for the program.

(not trying to belittle NDSU's win over BSU at all. it's still a team of 63 schollies beating one with 85.) :)

[skinny_uncle]

I know SIU beat Northern Illinois last year 34-31 and the Indiana Hoosiers the previous year 35-28.

[TexasTerror]

Here's the SLC's list since 2000...

2000
Northwestern St. 23, at La.-Lafayette 21
Sam Houston St. 21, at La.-Lafayette 14
Stephen F. Austin 34, at La. Tech 31
Texas State 27, at La.-Monroe 7

2001
Northwestern State 27, at TCU 24
Sam Houston State 20, at La.-Monroe 9
Nicholls State 28, at Arkansas State 22

2002
McNeese State 24, at La.-Monroe 19

2003
Northwestern State 14, at La.-Monroe 10
Stephen F. Austin 23, at La.-Monroe 21

2005
Northwestern State 27, at La.-Monroe 23

2007
Nicholls State 16, at Rice 14
McNeese State 38, at La.-Lafayette 17

[g-webb1994]

One of the all-time impressive runs was the one Furman had in the 80's. They beat South Carolina, Georgia Tech., and NC State twice. NC State got so fed up with the ass beatings FU handed them that they hired Dick Sheridan.