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Sly Fox
October 22nd, 2005, 08:16 PM
Liberty leads Coastal Carolina 7-3 at the break. The Chants picked off a pass in the closing minute of the first half and booted a field goal as time expired at the break to get on the board.

WMTribe90
October 22nd, 2005, 08:24 PM
Go Liberty!

Coastal89
October 22nd, 2005, 08:30 PM
Jerry Falwell for President!

Tod
October 22nd, 2005, 08:30 PM
Jerry Falwell for President!

Go Liberty!!

alexale23
October 22nd, 2005, 08:40 PM
is the coastal game broadcast on radio over the internet

Sly Fox
October 22nd, 2005, 08:43 PM
Here's the Liberty audio stream:

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/liberty/8286/32_liberty-victoryfm_050411.asx

Still 7-3 Liberty midway through the 3rd.

Sly Fox
October 22nd, 2005, 09:03 PM
Liberty up 7-6 starting the 4th with the Flames driving depp into Coastla territory.

scpivo21
October 22nd, 2005, 09:18 PM
Liberty TD, now 14-6 with about 8 minutes left.

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 09:24 PM
14-14, 6:28 left

chantman
October 22nd, 2005, 09:26 PM
Ballgame all tied at 14. Go Chants!!

Saint3333
October 22nd, 2005, 09:27 PM
This day just got a little better for CCU, but even if they win today I think they can look back at 10/22/05 as the date that sealed their playoff fate.

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 09:30 PM
21-14 CCU

Punchykky
October 22nd, 2005, 09:33 PM
This day just got a little better for CCU, but even if they win today I think they can look back at 10/22/05 as the date that sealed their playoff fate.

Why do you say that? :confused:

Coastal89
October 22nd, 2005, 09:34 PM
Why do you say that? :confused:
Because he's from App. St.

Lapper
October 22nd, 2005, 09:38 PM
Why do you say that? :confused:

Because he has no life.

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 09:42 PM
Touchdown Liberty...PAT pending...good...

21-21
0:32 left

Sly Fox
October 22nd, 2005, 09:43 PM
Somebody needs to remind us we stink!

Its looking like OT.

Saint3333
October 22nd, 2005, 09:43 PM
Actually it's because

1) JMU now has three losses and will likely lose another one and thus miss the playoffs.

2) SC State lost to Hampton, that was there only chance for a quality win so they miss the playoffs.

3) CCU struggles with one of the worst 1-AA teams in Liberty. A team like Coastal needs to have statement games (only beat G-Webb by 3 and now this Libertygame) to get in the playoffs especially when their two "quality" wins are looking worse this week.

JALMOND
October 22nd, 2005, 09:44 PM
Win or lose, an OT game against a team the caliber of Liberty this late in the season cannot help Coastal's playoff chances when you are trying to steal a spot from one of the heavy conferences.

Get real, CCU fans.

SoCon48
October 22nd, 2005, 09:46 PM
Touchdown Liberty...PAT pending...good...

21-21
0:32 left

:D

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 09:46 PM
CCU 3 and out...Liberty calls timeout with 0:10 to force CCU punt.

SoCon48
October 22nd, 2005, 09:47 PM
Because he has no life.


Coastal has 10 seconds of life left.

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 09:47 PM
21-21
End of regulation

Oooooooovertime.

chantman
October 22nd, 2005, 09:51 PM
Actually it's because

1) JMU now has three losses and will likely lose another one and thus miss the playoffs.

2) SC State lost to Hampton, that was there only chance for a quality win so they miss the playoffs.

3) CCU struggles with one of the worst 1-AA teams in Liberty. A team like Coastal needs to have statement games (only beat G-Webb by 3 and now this Libertygame) to get in the playoffs especially when their two "quality" wins are looking worse this week.


Here's a Coastal fan that agrees with you.

Saint3333
October 22nd, 2005, 09:51 PM
Wow CCU fans getting a little testy, guess the truth hurts.

SoCon48
October 22nd, 2005, 09:52 PM
Actually it's because

1) JMU now has three losses and will likely lose another one and thus miss the playoffs.

2) SC State lost to Hampton, that was there only chance for a quality win so they miss the playoffs.

3) CCU struggles with one of the worst 1-AA teams in Liberty. A team like Coastal needs to have statement games (only beat G-Webb by 3 and now this Libertygame) to get in the playoffs especially when their two "quality" wins are looking worse this week.


After this debacle, ASU has to depend on the Citadel romp, GSU romp, and the win at Waffle House today to keep us up to where the Coasty win "propelled us." 'Cause as it looks now, the CCU win in Boone was rather meaningless. Just a good exhibition game.

Listening over the Liberty net, Liberty announcer sounds very professional.

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 09:52 PM
Liberty wins toss...chooses defense.

CCU to start on O.

keydet71
October 22nd, 2005, 09:53 PM
Actually it's because

1) JMU now has three losses and will likely lose another one and thus miss the playoffs.

2) SC State lost to Hampton, that was there only chance for a quality win so they miss the playoffs.

3) CCU struggles with one of the worst 1-AA teams in Liberty. A team like Coastal needs to have statement games (only beat G-Webb by 3 and now this Libertygame) to get in the playoffs especially when their two "quality" wins are looking worse this week.

....and if there is any doubt remaining, we'll take care of that next Saturday.

:nod: :D :nod:

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 09:54 PM
CCU: 3rd and 13 from the 28

SoCon48
October 22nd, 2005, 09:55 PM
....and if there is any doubt remaining, we'll take care of that next Saturday.

:nod: :D :nod:

We'll be pulling for our ol' SoCon brother.

UNHknowledge
October 22nd, 2005, 09:56 PM
I'm shocked by this game. I really wanted to like CCU this year too

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 09:56 PM
Pass incomplete. 4th and 13. 47 yard FG attempt pending...

No good. DOINK! off the upright.

SoCon48
October 22nd, 2005, 09:56 PM
Liberty wins toss...chooses defense.

CCU to start on O.


Why?

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 09:57 PM
What do you mean, "why?" In overtime, if you win the toss, you ALWAYS choose defense.

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 09:57 PM
Liberty starts possession.

1st and 10 - 1 yard QB draw

Eaglegus2
October 22nd, 2005, 09:57 PM
Coastal misses a field goal in OT

Flames have the ball....score 7 they win

SoCon48
October 22nd, 2005, 09:58 PM
What do you mean, "why?" In overtime, if you win the toss, you ALWAYS choose defense.

You're right, it's not sudden death.

Saint3333
October 22nd, 2005, 09:58 PM
Thanks Chantman, I'm glad to see there are some objective CCU fans.

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 09:58 PM
2nd and 9 - no gain

Timeout, Liberty

Sly Fox
October 22nd, 2005, 09:59 PM
Its looking good for us now.

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 09:59 PM
3rd and 9 - no gain.

41 yard FG attempt pending

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 10:00 PM
Kick is............

no good.

Eaglegus2
October 22nd, 2005, 10:00 PM
2nd OT...........still knotted at 21

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 10:01 PM
Liberty again takes possession...

CCU on defense. I don't think these announcers have ever witnessed a college football overtime. :rolleyes:

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 10:02 PM
1st and 10 - 1 yard QB keep

SoCon48
October 22nd, 2005, 10:03 PM
Liberty again takes possession...

CCU on defense. I don't think these announcers have ever witnessed a college football overtime. :rolleyes:

Not too many overtimes in 50 pt losses.

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 10:04 PM
2nd and 9...pass complete...FUMBLE, recovered by CCU

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 10:04 PM
CCU takes over:

1st and 10 - 10 yard run

SoCon48
October 22nd, 2005, 10:05 PM
1st and 10 - 1 yard QB keep

Looks like Coastal is gonna win by short FG.

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 10:06 PM
1st and 10 - 2 yard run. PENALTY, CHOP BLOCK on CCU...

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 10:06 PM
1st and 24 from the 29. QB draw for 1 yard.

2nd and 23 - rush for -2 yards.

3rd and 25 - rush for 10 yards.

37 yard FG attempt pending.

SoCon48
October 22nd, 2005, 10:10 PM
Looks like Coastal is gonna win by short FG.

A choke by the kicker is Liberty's only chance.

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 10:10 PM
NO GOOD (again) Wide left.

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 10:11 PM
CCU drive starts...

1st and 10 -

SoCon48
October 22nd, 2005, 10:11 PM
and the kick is...

Choke left.

Lehigh Lover
October 22nd, 2005, 10:11 PM
And some people think CCU deserves to be in the playoffs. Give me a break.

Eaglegus2
October 22nd, 2005, 10:13 PM
OK..........no one scores this time let's flip a coin to see who wins. ;) :D

Eaglegus2
October 22nd, 2005, 10:14 PM
And some people think CCU deserves to be in the playoffs. Give me a break.


Not me!!!!!

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 10:14 PM
1st and 10 - 6 yard gain

2nd and 4 - 3.5 yard gain

3rd and inches - 10 yard gain

1st and goal from the 5 - 5 yard run. Touchdown, CCU.

Manditory 2pt conversion - NO GOOD.

27-21 CCU. Liberty drive pending.

Lehigh Lover
October 22nd, 2005, 10:15 PM
Who has the ball?

Lehigh Lover
October 22nd, 2005, 10:15 PM
Ok, that answers my question

Thumper250
October 22nd, 2005, 10:16 PM
Even with the win, the Chants playoff chances are likely over. Sucks for the league.

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 10:16 PM
Liberty 3OT possession:

1st and 10 - incomplete pass

2nd and 10 - pass complete for 16 yards

1st and goal from the 9 - 8 yard gain

2nd and goal - QB sneak for no gain

Punchykky
October 22nd, 2005, 10:18 PM
Even with the win, the Chants playoff chances are likely over. Sucks for the league.

You don't think CCU will get an at large bid? why not?

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 10:19 PM
3rd and goal - FALSE START, Liberty.

3rd and goal from the 6 - PASS INTERCEPTED IN END ZONE.

27-21 FINAL.

Lehigh Lover
October 22nd, 2005, 10:19 PM
Cuz they play in the Big South, their conference is probably the weakest in the nation, it's taking them three OT's to beat one of the consistently worst teams in I-AA. What more can I say???

rokamortis
October 22nd, 2005, 10:20 PM
Whew.

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 10:20 PM
27-21 CCU
FINAL/3OT

MR. CHICKEN
October 22nd, 2005, 10:21 PM
GOD....WAS NOT WHIFF LIBERTY!................BRAWK!

chantman
October 22nd, 2005, 10:21 PM
It's not pretty, but they keep winning.

Sly Fox
October 22nd, 2005, 10:21 PM
A game it seemed no one wanted to win. I think I need some Pepto Bismal.

Punchykky
October 22nd, 2005, 10:22 PM
Congrads, CCU! Was the game in Conway, or Lynchburg? :confused:

00bluehen
October 22nd, 2005, 10:24 PM
It's not pretty, but they keep winning.
Heh...for a little perspective:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=252672729

Apples and oranges? Maybe. But the two games were only 4 weeks apart.

chantman
October 22nd, 2005, 10:30 PM
Congrads, CCU! Was the game in Conway, or Lynchburg? :confused:


Lynchburg

JALMOND
October 22nd, 2005, 10:32 PM
You don't think CCU will get an at large bid? why not?

3 OT to get a win over mighty Liberty and you want a playoff berth???!!!! A 4-pt win last week over G-Webb and you want to steal a spot from someone more deserving by far. Put a fork in your season its done.

Enjoy your conference championship because you are not going anywhere.

rokamortis
October 22nd, 2005, 10:33 PM
Heh...for a little perspective:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=252672729

Apples and oranges? Maybe. But the two games were only 4 weeks apart.

Liberty had started to get their offense on track after that game.

I agree we should have whipped the flames - but our offense is all over the place. We play to the level of the competition whether they are good or bad. But a win is a win.

rokamortis
October 22nd, 2005, 10:35 PM
3 OT to get a win over mighty Liberty and you want a playoff berth???!!!! A 4-pt win last week over G-Webb and you want to steal a spot from someone more deserving by far. Put a fork in your season its done.

Enjoy your conference championship because you are not going anywhere.

We'll see. I'd be interersted in who is more deserving - a lot of teams have lost to inferior teams. It all comes down if you take care of business or not.

UNHknowledge
October 22nd, 2005, 10:36 PM
Although it was a disgusting W against a terrible team, I can't help liking CCU. They're 16-2 in 2 seasons and I love their uni's

rokamortis
October 22nd, 2005, 10:38 PM
Although it was a disgusting W against a terrible team, I can't help liking CCU. They're 16-2 in 2 seasons and I love their uni's

I can't say it was pretty by any means. Unfortunately we are now the ones with the bullseyes on our backs in the conference - it aint fun. Even bad teams can play good when they want to. Unfortunately we let them stay in the game.

youwouldno
October 22nd, 2005, 10:41 PM
I want CCU in the playoffs. Nothing like an automatic win for Furman in round 1.

JALMOND
October 22nd, 2005, 10:47 PM
Liberty had started to get their offense on track after that game.

I agree we should have whipped the flames - but our offense is all over the place. We play to the level of the competition whether they are good or bad. But a win is a win.

You play to the level of your Big South competition? Sorry. That works for a Furman or App State, consistently playing in the Socon. That works for Montana State and Portland State, consistently playing in the Big Sky. How can Coastal, playing in a conference without an auto-bid, claim to be one of the eight at large teams with this type of win over a team like Liberty?

At least Harvard last year was making statements late in the season in their games.

Tribe4SF
October 22nd, 2005, 10:49 PM
I didn't drop CCU in my poll last week, but I will this week. They should be dominating teams like Liberty and Gardner-Webb, and they are not. Right now, I don't see them as playoff worthy.

Saint3333
October 22nd, 2005, 10:49 PM
More deserving teams at this point:

A10
UMass
UNH
Bill & Mary

Big Sky
Montana
Montana St.
Portland St.

Gateway
WKU
YSU
Ill. St.

SoCon
Furman
ASU
GSU

Cal Poly

Autobids
Texas St.
Hampton
Lehigh
OVC (who knows???)

rokamortis
October 22nd, 2005, 10:51 PM
More deserving teams at this point:

A10
UMass
UNH
Bill & Mary

Big Sky
Montana
Montana St.
Portland St.

Gateway
WKU
YSU
Ill. St.

SoCon
Furman
ASU
GSU

Cal Poly

Autobids
Texas St.
Hampton
Lehigh
OVC (who knows???)

Half of those teams have lost to inferior competition or played games close that they should have won in a blow out. Heck - even one or two have played weaker teams than we have at this point.

windwalker
October 22nd, 2005, 10:57 PM
We have watched these young men for three years, and we have seen what the are capable of and what there talent level is. Heck... I have read what a lot of people on this forum has said about their team about a given game.. "we didn't play well"... "if this.. if that.. etc"... Usually it is when their teams have gotten beaten.

Well we are saying the same thing, except.. our guys keep finding ways to win.. Win Ugly ? Maybe yes.. but winning ...

heck... I thought that is why this place is called... "any Given Saturday"

SoCon48
October 22nd, 2005, 11:03 PM
We have watched these young men for three years, and we have seen what the are capable of and what there talent level is. Heck... I have read what a lot of people on this forum has said about their team about a given game.. "we didn't play well"... "if this.. if that.. etc"... Usually it is when their teams have gotten beaten.

Well we are saying the same thing, except.. our guys keep finding ways to win.. Win Ugly ? Maybe yes.. but winning ...

heck... I thought that is why this place is called... "any Given Saturday"


You're right but they weren't thinking about this year's version of the Flames. :rolleyes:

JALMOND
October 22nd, 2005, 11:11 PM
Half of those teams have lost to inferior competition or played games close that they should have won in a blow out. Heck - even one or two have played weaker teams than we have at this point.

Sorry, Roky, ain't buying it. Hard to find a team more "inferior" than Liberty. You are trying to steal a spot from a team in the heavy conferences (A-10, Big Sky, Gateway and SoCon). Cal Poly is in sort of the same boat than you in that they also play in a conference that doesn't get the auto-bid. Still, most publications will say that the Great West is a stronger conference than the Big South. Most people will say that Cal Poly's opponent today is much stronger than Liberty. In the real world, I doubt you would take Cal Poly's spot unless they completely fall apart the rest of the season. Coastal would give the teams in the heavy conferences a much better game than the rest of the Big South, but are you really, at this point, one of the eight best at-large teams in the country?

rokamortis
October 22nd, 2005, 11:16 PM
Sorry, Roky, ain't buying it. Hard to find a team more "inferior" than Liberty. You are trying to steal a spot from a team in the heavy conferences (A-10, Big Sky, Gateway and SoCon). Cal Poly is in sort of the same boat than you in that they also play in a conference that doesn't get the auto-bid. Still, most publications will say that the Great West is a stronger conference than the Big South. Most people will say that Cal Poly's opponent today is much stronger than Liberty. In the real world, I doubt you would take Cal Poly's spot unless they completely fall apart the rest of the season. Coastal would give the teams in the heavy conferences a much better game than the rest of the Big South, but are you really, at this point, one of the eight best at-large teams in the country?

Actually - the Great West is one of the stronger conferences and the Big South one of the weakest. My point is that we had a pretty tough first half schedule and finished 4-1. Our conference is weak but we have been winning. Yes, I do currently think we deserve a shot at the playoffs. If we lose then I'll reverse my position.

Saint3333
October 22nd, 2005, 11:19 PM
Rok could you identify the teams I listed you think CCU deserves a spot over?

ngineer
October 22nd, 2005, 11:29 PM
Kick is............

no good.

Had to be 'wide RIGHT'? :D

JALMOND
October 22nd, 2005, 11:33 PM
I like your list, Saint. I think others better than Coastal right now, but maybe outside your list includes Richmond and JMU from the A-10, E Washington from the Big Sky and N Iowa from the Gateway. Coastal fans will point out that they beat JMU (they have all year), but I think the Dukes are playing better than Coastal right now. Just my opinion.

rokamortis
October 22nd, 2005, 11:37 PM
Rok could you identify the teams I listed you think CCU deserves a spot over?

I won't say we deserve to be in more than the others but I'll give my opinion on what negatives they have. I say a close win is better than a close loss to an inferior team.

A10
UMass - pretty solid but a loss to Colgate? Isn't UMass superior to Colgate?
UNH - solid
Bill & Mary - loss to 3-5 Rhode island

Big Sky
Montana - solid
Montana St. pretty decent
Portland St. - pretty good

Gateway
WKU - solid
YSU - 1 win over a I-AA with a winning record
Ill. St. - pretty good

SoCon
Furman - solid team but winning close ones. Lost to a WCU that doesn't have a winning record.
ASU - solid
GSU - losses to average McNeese and Wofford

Cal Poly - solid

Autobids
Texas St. - solid
Hampton - solid
Lehigh
OVC (who knows???)

SuperEagle
October 22nd, 2005, 11:48 PM
While Southern may be having a disappointing year, I really believe McNeese State and Wofford would beat you guys. Course we will never know, but I think they are a little bit better than you are giving them credit for.
It's all debatable though. The only people that matter is the comittee.

Saint3333
October 22nd, 2005, 11:49 PM
Rok great assessment, I understand your point better now.

However I still don't see CCU getting ahead of these teams and I don't think you do either. Of course there's still a lot of football to be played and with all the parity out there many of these teams could be 7-4 at year-end and then CCU would probably make it over them.

rokamortis
October 22nd, 2005, 11:59 PM
Rok great assessment, I understand your point better now.

However I still don't see CCU getting ahead of these teams and I don't think you do either. Of course there's still a lot of football to be played and with all the parity out there many of these teams could be 7-4 at year-end and then CCU would probably make it over them.

Yeah - the other side is that some of the tougher games a team will play will be in the next few weeks.

I don't see YSU keeping their streal alive. GSU still has to play Furman. And teh A-10 is just crazy week to week. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes up.

Coastal89
October 23rd, 2005, 12:02 AM
Cuz they play in the Big South, their conference is probably the weakest in the nation, it's taking them three OT's to beat one of the consistently worst teams in I-AA. What more can I say???

September 24, 2005
LEXINGTON, Va. (AP) -- Eric Rath ran for three touchdowns Saturday as Lehigh held off a surging VMI to win 28-26, spoiling the Keydets' homecoming.

Alot like Lehigh going to the wire with VMI of the Big South, hmm. Or Lehigh going into OT against a 2-2 Yale.

rokamortis
October 23rd, 2005, 12:02 AM
While Southern may be having a disappointing year, I really believe McNeese State and Wofford would beat you guys. Course we will never know, but I think they are a little bit better than you are giving them credit for.
It's all debatable though. The only people that matter is the comittee.

You may be right that Wofford or McNeese would beat us but everyone thought JMU and SC State would as well - so who knows?

rokamortis
October 23rd, 2005, 12:06 AM
September 24, 2005
LEXINGTON, Va. (AP) -- Eric Rath ran for three touchdowns Saturday as Lehigh held off a surging VMI to win 28-26, spoiling the Keydets' homecoming.

Alot like Lehigh going to the wire with VMI of the Big South, hmm. Or Lehigh going into OT against a 2-2 Yale.

It is funny how everyone wants to criticize us when most teams haven't had outstanding seasons - only a few have. But the reality is that most teams have barely won over teams that they are 'superior' to or lost to bad teams.

Coastal89
October 23rd, 2005, 12:15 AM
It is funny how everyone wants to criticize us when most teams haven't had outstanding seasons - only a few have. But the reality is that most teams have barely won over teams that they are 'superior' to or lost to bad teams.

Just to further emphasize your point Rok, McNeese lost 37-13 to 1-4 SE Louisiana today.

JALMOND
October 23rd, 2005, 12:26 AM
What are we doing now, comparing Liberty to VMI or Yale or SE Louisiana. Sorry, I can't see Coastal getting in while stumbling through the latter half of a Big South conference schedule. You cannot afford to win ugly, not with the conference you play in. Furman has been winning ugly within the conference but you certainly cannot compare the Big South to the SoCon in terms of strength. Montana State has been winning ugly in the Big Sky but can you honestly say the Big South is as strong as the Big Sky?

You've had a good season, but put aside your bias and look at this objectively. I think you would agree.

Coastal89
October 23rd, 2005, 12:26 AM
I like your list, Saint. I think others better than Coastal right now, but maybe outside your list includes Richmond and JMU from the A-10, E Washington from the Big Sky and N Iowa from the Gateway. Coastal fans will point out that they beat JMU (they have all year), but I think the Dukes are playing better than Coastal right now. Just my opinion.
E.Washington lost to Weber today. Isn't Weber St. considered inferior to E. Washington? :rolleyes:

Coastal89
October 23rd, 2005, 12:31 AM
What are we doing now, comparing Liberty to VMI or Yale or SE Louisiana. Sorry, I can't see Coastal getting in while stumbling through the latter half of a Big South conference schedule. You cannot afford to win ugly, not with the conference you play in. Furman has been winning ugly within the conference but you certainly cannot compare the Big South to the SoCon in terms of strength. Montana State has been winning ugly in the Big Sky but can you honestly say the Big South is as strong as the Big Sky?

You've had a good season, but put aside your bias and look at this objectively. I think you would agree.

Montana St has only played 2 conference games and lost 1. :confused:

JALMOND
October 23rd, 2005, 12:32 AM
E.Washington lost to Weber today. Isn't Weber St. considered inferior to E. Washington? :rolleyes:

Hardly. Some had this picked as an upset. It was pretty easy when given the arguments. Weber played a great game in Missoula against the Griz and also has played the Cats tough (take a look at the Big Sky Preview thread here at AGS). Clearly, Weber is a much better team than Liberty, and, after today, I'd say a much better team than Coastal.

youwouldno
October 23rd, 2005, 12:36 AM
Everything is different when you play real teams week in and week out.

Like I said, I want Coastal in the playoffs, because if Furman beats GSU that means CCU would most likely play @ Furman in the first round. Chant fans aren't going to like how it looks when a pretender meets a good team in late-season form. I mean, CCU has what, 1 player that would start for Furman (Simpson)? Maybe 2 or 3.

25+ teams in I-AA could play CCU's schedule and come out 10-1.

Tribe4SF
October 23rd, 2005, 08:02 AM
I won't say we deserve to be in more than the others but I'll give my opinion on what negatives they have. I say a close win is better than a close loss to an inferior team.

A10
UMass - pretty solid but a loss to Colgate? Isn't UMass superior to Colgate?
UNH - solid
Bill & Mary - loss to 3-5 Rhode island

Big Sky
Montana - solid
Montana St. pretty decent
Portland St. - pretty good

Gateway
WKU - solid
YSU - 1 win over a I-AA with a winning record
Ill. St. - pretty good

SoCon
Furman - solid team but winning close ones. Lost to a WCU that doesn't have a winning record.
ASU - solid
GSU - losses to average McNeese and Wofford

Cal Poly - solid

Autobids
Texas St. - solid
Hampton - solid
Lehigh
OVC (who knows???)

Rhode Island is 4-4. Beat Villanova yesterday 48-30.

rokamortis
October 23rd, 2005, 08:12 AM
Rhode Island is 4-4. Beat Villanova yesterday 48-30.

oops - thanks

Tribe4SF
October 23rd, 2005, 08:21 AM
Coastal will get an idea of their chances from the GPI over the remaining weeks. The games against Liberty and GW are not helping them there, and JMU and SC State losses also don't help. The committee is heavily focused on the criteria that make up the GPI.

keydet71
October 23rd, 2005, 09:07 AM
Enjoy your conference championship because you are not going anywhere.


Please!!!!!!! CO-Champions, presuming CCU can beat Charleston Southern.

:D

Tribe4SF
October 23rd, 2005, 10:04 AM
Sagarin ratings are out and CCU drops from #17 to #30. Look for similar drop from the other computers.

rokamortis
October 23rd, 2005, 10:20 AM
Please!!!!!!! CO-Champions, presuming CCU can beat Charleston Southern.

:D

You couldn't even beat GWU :D

rokamortis
October 23rd, 2005, 10:21 AM
Sagarin ratings are out and CCU drops from #17 to #30. Look for similar drop from the other computers.

We knew it would happen due to the conference - but the computers aren't perfect either.

IaaScribe
October 23rd, 2005, 10:47 AM
Chiming in with an objective viewpoint here, since I don't really care either way.

I covered the game last night and was stunned at just how ordinary Coastal Carolina is. They play pretty well on defense but offensively, they don't inspire me in the least.

No breakaway running back. No consistent passing game (sure, it showed flashes in the fourth quarter, but it wasn't great for most of the night).

Coastal fans are saying that they let Liberty hang around. Wrong. Liberty let Coastal hang around. And Coastal shouldn't have even been in the game. This Liberty team has lived on making mistakes all year long, and Coastal got lucky because LU continued to make those same errors.

I talked to Bennett afterward and there was a serious look of relief on his face. He knew his team had stolen one.

I've watched a lot of I-AA playoff teams in the Big Sky, Southland and A-10. Coastal Carolina, at least the one that showed up last night, is not a playoff team.

Coastal needs to beat somebody up. It needs to beat VMI 41-7 and absolutely dominate the Keydets to show they can play superior football. The Coastal team that showed up last night would have been run off the field by W&M or UMass or Montana.

Sorry, Chants fans. Your team doesn't deserve to be within sniffing distance of the postseason if that's the best you can show against a 1-6 team that is playing with very little confidence.

rokamortis
October 23rd, 2005, 10:57 AM
Chris? Objectivity?

I have admitted that it was an ugly win - but a win is a win. Many teams have lost against inferior competition and we have yet to do so.

IaaScribe
October 23rd, 2005, 11:02 AM
Yeah, objective rok. Just because I cover LU doesn't mean I give a s**t either way whether they win or lose. I'm just paid to report.

And what I saw didn't do Coastal any favors. If this had been the first night that Coastal had struggled like this, then I'd probably gloss over it and say it was a blip and that everybody has a bad night, yada, yada.

I have no grudge against Coastal. None whatsoever. I like Coach Bennett and I like all of the Coastal folk that I've met. That just wasn't a playoff team I watched last night. And if Coastal doesn't beat the snot out of VMI, I'm not going to be the only one who feels that way. (Beating the snot out of Mansfield, Savannah and Chuck South won't prove anything to anyone).

I should add: My opinion means nothing to the committee though, so it's all just talk. :)

keydet71
October 23rd, 2005, 02:23 PM
You couldn't even beat GWU :D



....hear the footsteps....we are coming!! This is not the 0-11 team you beat by 7 points last year....and your last minute magic has played out.

:cool:

rokamortis
October 23rd, 2005, 02:48 PM
....hear the footsteps....we are coming!! This is not the 0-11 team you beat by 7 points last year....and your last minute magic has played out.

:cool:

I know we have a neon bullseye and you guys will be ready. Hopefully we are too. You always play tough and if we aren't prepared then you will beat us - no question.

CarolinaGirl
October 23rd, 2005, 02:58 PM
I know we have a neon bullseye and you guys will be ready. Hopefully we are too. You always play tough and if we aren't prepared then you will beat us - no question.

You ain't kidding! Our defense has kept us in these games thus far. I'm not sure why our offense can't get it together until it comes down to it but thankfully, they have pulled together and taken care of business when it matters the most. Now, if we can do that consistently at the beginning 58 minutes of the game and keep it going throughout, we will be soooooo dangerous! We have the talent on the roster, no doubt about it.

Punchykky
October 23rd, 2005, 03:05 PM
Yeah, objective rok. Just because I cover LU doesn't mean I give a s**t either way whether they win or lose. I'm just paid to report.

And what I saw didn't do Coastal any favors. If this had been the first night that Coastal had struggled like this, then I'd probably gloss over it and say it was a blip and that everybody has a bad night, yada, yada.

I have no grudge against Coastal. None whatsoever. I like Coach Bennett and I like all of the Coastal folk that I've met. That just wasn't a playoff team I watched last night. And if Coastal doesn't beat the snot out of VMI, I'm not going to be the only one who feels that way. (Beating the snot out of Mansfield, Savannah and Chuck South won't prove anything to anyone).

I should add: My opinion means nothing to the committee though, so it's all just talk. :)

Who is chuck south?

CarolinaGirl
October 23rd, 2005, 03:21 PM
Who is chuck south?
Charleston Southern... :rolleyes:

OL FU
October 23rd, 2005, 03:27 PM
Charleston Southern... :rolleyes:

But in their defense, they won the battle of the two worst teams in I-AA last week by smashing Savannah St.

Thumper250
October 23rd, 2005, 06:31 PM
Do you guys realize that IF VMI beats CCU next week, and GWU can slip past Liberty, there will be an unbreakable three-way tie for first place in the Big South standings should both CCU and GWU beat Charleston Southern?

VMI would have the tie break over CCU BUT GWU would have it over VMI. CCU would then have the tie break over GWU. It's a circle of weirdness.

Tri champs in a five-team league. We gots ta get some mo teams. Scheduling seven non conference games a year has got to be a tough task.