Does This Person Belong In The HOF, Take Three

[UNHWildCats]

13 seasons
AB: 4,981
Hits: 1,772
Avg: .356
OBP: .423
SB: 202
BB: 519
K: 158
doubles: 307
triples: 168
Homers: 54 (When he played his final season the career leader had just 138)

[Marcus Garvey]

No "Dead Ball" era guys. It's damn near impossible to quantify their stats today.

[TheValleyRaider]

Forget just the "Dead Ball" comparison

This guy would be HOF if he were eligible

If you don't believe, look up who it is....

[Marcus Garvey]

Forget just the "Dead Ball" comparison

This guy would be HOF if he were eligible

If you don't believe, look up who it is....

Shoeless Joe I take it. Nobody has ever argued his stats didn't warrant HoF admission. Currently, he's banned from the Hall.
I believe prior to the early 90's, he wasn't actually banned from the HoF, rather the hall simply refused to admit anyone who was banned. It was an unofficial policy. I think Fay Vincent got the rules changed because he was concerned that Pete Rose would be admitted despite being banned.

[TheValleyRaider]

Shoeless Joe I take it. Nobody has ever argued his stats didn't warrant HoF admission. Currently, he's banned from the Hall.
I believe prior to the early 90's, he wasn't actually banned from the HoF, rather the hall simply refused to admit anyone who was banned. It was an unofficial policy. I think Fay Vincent got the rules changed because he was concerned that Pete Rose would be admitted despite being banned.

Yeah, it's Jackson. I looked it up when I saw it was a Deadball hitter, not being able to really characterize their number without context

It just seemed slightly disingenuous to discuss the candidacy of someone who isn't in the HOF for reasons that are not directly related to his statistical prowess. In that way, it's exactly like Pete Rose, in that no one ever tries to justify his exclusion on the basis of stats. The numbers are what they are, but there's definately more to the story xpeacex

[Marcus Garvey]

Yeah, it's Jackson. I looked it up when I saw it was a Deadball hitter, not being able to really characterize their number without context

It just seemed slightly disingenuous to discuss the candidacy of someone who isn't in the HOF for reasons that are not directly related to his statistical prowess. In that way, it's exactly like Pete Rose, in that no one ever tries to justify his exclusion on the basis of stats. The numbers are what they are, but there's definately more to the story xpeacex

I disagree. It's very disingenious to do so.

If wikipedia is to be trusted, apparently the Veterans Comittee is free to elect him. It seems only the BBWAA are prohibitted from votting for banned players. However, I highly doubt the Vet. Com. will vote him in anytime soon.

[UNHWildCats]

Yeah, it's Jackson. I looked it up when I saw it was a Deadball hitter, not being able to really characterize their number without context

It just seemed slightly disingenuous to discuss the candidacy of someone who isn't in the HOF for reasons that are not directly related to his statistical prowess. In that way, it's exactly like Pete Rose, in that no one ever tries to justify his exclusion on the basis of stats. The numbers are what they are, but there's definately more to the story xpeacex
theres a difference, not everyone might comnsider Jackson a HOF, his defense wasnt great.

But Rose, guy was a lock before he was suspended.

Of course has Jackson not bveen suspended mid career his stats may have ended up HOF lock as well.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

I believe a lifetime ban is a LIFETIME ban...

Jackson has been punished... he never saw the Hall in his life. He should be inducted.

Rose should be too... after he passes away. I also think his plaque should say "banned for life for gambling on baseball"

[BlueHen86]

I believe a lifetime ban is a LIFETIME ban...

Jackson has been punished... he never saw the Hall in his life. He should be inducted.

Rose should be too... after he passes away. I also think his plaque should say "banned for life for gambling on baseball"

I'm a huge Rose fan. xhomerx I think he should be in now. He has been punished enough. MLB doesn't have to ever let him manage or coach again, but he should be on the hall, before he dies.

[UMass922]

I believe a lifetime ban is a LIFETIME ban...

Jackson has been punished... he never saw the Hall in his life. He should be inducted.

Rose should be too... after he passes away.

Agreed.