PJ Opens GA Tech Practice to Public

[Gamecocks99]

Posted by ESPN.com's Heather Dinich
You want to see what Paul Johnson is up to with that triple-option offense?
Go see for yourself.
He's opening practice to the public "until further notice."
The players report Tuesday and the first practice is Wednesday at 3 p.m. at Rose Bowl Field. Same time Thursday and Friday.
That's almost unheard of.


There is a lot of Questions coming from GA Tech fans about PJ's approach to the coming season. He has opened his practices to the public to answer some of these questions.

This Quote is from a poster on StingTalk.Com:

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Teams know what is coming though. It's not like PJ is putting in special plays for JSU. We are going to run, run, run the ball.


Jax State needs to put 8 in a box and play hard ball

[appfan2008]

other sports section?

[bobbythekidd]

other sports section?
Why? It's Jax State's first opponent.

Unless you think anything related to Michigan/LSU and Appy should be in other sports too.

[Gamecocks99]

other sports section?


No. Not the other sport section. It would be this section

The Jacksonville State Gamecocks Plays Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets the first game of the Year in Atlanta, GA at Grant Field on ESPN 360 Thursday August 28 at 7:30 EST

The Cocky Nation is totally amped up !

If this post needs to be moved to the other sport section. Then your Many post(s) of App State vs LSU needs to be moved as well

But I do not think either needs to be moved

Back to my post

JSU has a lot of transfers and will have a strong defense for the Jackets. I think it will be a close game

[bobbythekidd]

I have money that says JSU beats the spread.

[Gamecocks99]

I have money that says JSU beats the spread.

Do you know what the spread is by chance ?

[bobbythekidd]

No, but I will let you know when I find out.

[Gamecocks99]

No, but I will let you know when I find out.

Thanks. I look forward to it if you can get it. Do they give a line on FBS vs FCS games. If I remember correctly from last year there did not give a line on these type games.

[straightshooter]

JSU had better have a good OL because GT is loaded on the DL, especially at DE. They are a bit young at the LB and DB positions, so if the OL can keep the GT front from penetrating, Perriloux will have a chance to throw a bit. If not, he will have a very long night.

It will take GT a few games to get their new offensive timing down. Crowe has seen Johnson's offense before, since JSU played a first year Sewak GSU team in the last regular game of the season in 2002. I think it was 41-3 GSU.

That being said, if JSU ever had a chance to beat GT, it might be this season. GT does have some real skill players, however, and if they get in an offensive rhythm, they will light it up pretty good. Putting eight in the box might be a mistake for JSU, since PJ has been known to throw the ball when he's got a guy who can throw it. If the starting GT QB is Nesbitt, watch out. He can throw it pretty good.

[Jiggs]

WIll JSU send some scouts over like last year's opener?xlolx

[cmaxwellgsu]

Johnson always did this in Statesboro. In fact, there was no fence or anything around the practice field back then.

[Gamecocks99]

Johnson always did this in Statesboro. In fact, there was no fence or anything around the practice field back then.

You have to like his transparent attitude xnodx

[Footix]

Johnson always did this in Statesboro. In fact, there was no fence or anything around the practice field back then.

Is there now?

[cmaxwellgsu]

There has since been one added, and Hatcher usually has his last practice of the week closed.

[straightshooter]

Johnson doesn't care who watches practice. He knows that when his offense is clicking, it cant be stopped. The only reason he lost many games at Navy was because he couldn't recruit any defensive stars.

During his stint at GSU he had QBs that could fly and he also had Adrian Peterson for four years. You know, the one with more than 9,000 yards rushing (including playoff games) during his GSU career. Now he's got a kid at that position who is bigger and faster than Peterson was. He never had that at Navy.

Go ahead and send a scout to look at what GT is doing. They only run a about six different plays. It's one thing to know what they're going to do. It's another to stop it.

[Gamecocks99]

JSU had better have a good OL because GT is loaded on the DL, especially at DE. They are a bit young at the LB and DB positions, so if the OL can keep the GT front from penetrating, Perriloux will have a chance to throw a bit. If not, he will have a very long night.

It will take GT a few games to get their new offensive timing down. Crowe has seen Johnson's offense before, since JSU played a first year Sewak GSU team in the last regular game of the season in 2002. I think it was 41-3 GSU.

That being said, if JSU ever had a chance to beat GT, it might be this season. GT does have some real skill players, however, and if they get in an offensive rhythm, they will light it up pretty good. Putting eight in the box might be a mistake for JSU, since PJ has been known to throw the ball when he's got a guy who can throw it. If the starting GT QB is Nesbitt, watch out. He can throw it pretty good.


From what I have read on line PJ does not have a Starter at QB. It is wide open for the taking.

Jacksonville State has an Offensive Line that averages 300 lbs and most are 6'3" or 6'4" or Taller. Most are Transfers from FBS Schools and are seasoned Upper Classmen. They should hold their own on the Offensive line.

[JMU1992]

Thanks. I look forward to it if you can get it. Do they give a line on FBS vs FCS games. If I remember correctly from last year there did not give a line on these type games.


Vegas does not out lines on FBS - FCS games but some online books do. I believe 5dimes.com has a line on this game. I think it opened at GT +28.

[straightshooter]

That's because Nesbitt was injured during the spring and got very few reps. Johnson has said that they were leaning towards Nesbitt, but he would have to earn in in practice. Nesbitt was a four star QB with more than 30 TD passes his SR year. He has good size and runs in the 4.5 range. He'd be the biggest starting QB that PJ has had in years.

[blueballs]

JSU had better have a good OL because GT is loaded on the DL, especially at DE. They are a bit young at the LB and DB positions, so if the OL can keep the GT front from penetrating, Perriloux will have a chance to throw a bit. If not, he will have a very long night.

It will take GT a few games to get their new offensive timing down. Crowe has seen Johnson's offense before, since JSU played a first year Sewak GSU team in the last regular game of the season in 2002. I think it was 41-3 GSU.

That being said, if JSU ever had a chance to beat GT, it might be this season. GT does have some real skill players, however, and if they get in an offensive rhythm, they will light it up pretty good. Putting eight in the box might be a mistake for JSU, since PJ has been known to throw the ball when he's got a guy who can throw it. If the starting GT QB is Nesbitt, watch out. He can throw it pretty good.

I agree wholeheartedly.

GT's skill players won't be as good in the offense when JSU sees them as the 2002 group was with Chaz Williams at QB, Jermaine Austin (over 5k career rushing yards, one of the most underrated players in this division ever) at RB, Mark Myers at SB and Teddy Craft at WR. That team had a seasoned o-line led by FCharles Clarke, who won the Jacobs Trophy. They were very strong.

A tip for your coaches... PJ likes to throw the deep ball on first down. If the safety cheats up and blows up the pitch he will wait until the next possession and burn him deep off play action on the first play of the possession. You'd be amazed how often it works.

[Cocky]

Nesbitt could be very good in the PJ offense but hopefully not in the first game. Green County did some option in HS with Nesbitt as QB.

[gt_bison]

My question is, this is an old team with a new coach who runs nothing but the option, these kids that have been on the team on the team for a couple of years were recruited for a different offense I wonder what the average size of the O line is, if they are between 280 and 310 then they may be to big to get up and run down field to block, and did the wxisting QB play option in High school? how about the full back? and the A back? did the wide outs get recruited to catch the football or just block? lots of questions, good move by GT to schedule a small school for the opener.

One of Johnson's first goals was getting the offensive linemen to drop some pounds because they were too big to move like he needed them to. Sounds like that program has worked pretty well, so I don't think that's an issue.

I believe Nesbitt ran the option in HS, but I know one of the true freshmen QB did. Full back and A back, not so sure on. I think the depth chart there is still really up in the air anyway. The receivers were definitely recruited to catch the ball (Gailey's "NFL-style" offense), but PJ says he is planning to throw the ball more than he did at Navy since he actually has wide outs at GT.

There will definitely be some learning and adjustment time, but I think most of us in Yellow Jacket country are optimistic. As much as I like to cheer for FCS over FBS, that won't be happening on 28 August or 11 October. Sorry, JSU and GW fans.

[813Jag]

One of Johnson's first goals was getting the offensive linemen to drop some pounds because they were too big to move like he needed them to. Sounds like that program has worked pretty well, so I don't think that's an issue.

I believe Nesbitt ran the option in HS, but I know one of the true freshmen QB did. Full back and A back, not so sure on. I think the depth chart there is still really up in the air anyway. The receivers were definitely recruited to catch the ball (Gailey's "NFL-style" offense), but PJ says he is planning to throw the ball more than he did at Navy since he actually has wide outs at GT.

There will definitely be some learning and adjustment time, but I think most of us in Yellow Jacket country are optimistic. As much as I like to cheer for FCS over FBS, that won't be happening on 28 August or 11 October. Sorry, JSU and GW fans.
I know this does nothing for the Yellow Jackets right now but there's a QB here in Tampa that had drawn interest from GT. He's more of a runner than a passer. If he chooses Tech he'll be the second area QB to go to a Georgia school in the same class. (One already committed to UGA)

[blueballs]

I know this does nothing for the Yellow Jackets right now but there's a QB here in Tampa that had drawn interest from GT. He's more of a runner than a passer. If he chooses Tech he'll be the second area QB to go to a Georgia school in the same class. (One already committed to UGA)

From Armwood?

[813Jag]

From Armwood?
No from Chamberlain, Dontae Aycock. I don't know what's up with the QB from Armwood yet.

[MplsBison]

Johnson doesn't care who watches practice. He knows that when his offense is clicking, it cant be stopped.

Must be why all the big time BCS and NFL teams use it. xrolleyesx xrolleyesx xrolleyesx xrolleyesx xrolleyesx xrolleyesx


It can easily be stopped with the correct defense.



That's why no one runs it anymore.



The sooner we ban the triple option from football, the sooner we can put that dinosaur out to rest.

[mountain_man]

Must be why all the big time BCS and NFL teams use it. xrolleyesx xrolleyesx xrolleyesx xrolleyesx xrolleyesx xrolleyesx


It can easily be stopped with the correct defense.



That's why no one runs it anymore.



The sooner we ban the triple option from football, the sooner we can put that dinosaur out to rest.

The NFL dosen't run it because of the risk to big $$$ QB's.

Many college teams won't run it because fans, alumni and boosters don't like watching the same 6-8 plays over and over again.

PJ runs it because he likes winning. Ask the GSU folks.


Lay it out for us. How would you stop it?

[mountaineertider]

Spacing, Good Tackling, Awareness, Getting into the Backfield.

;)

[Gamecocks99]

Vegas does not out lines on FBS - FCS games but some online books do. I believe 5dimes.com has a line on this game. I think it opened at GT +28.


The Gamecocks should cover that up like cat litter xsmiley_wix

[Gamecocks99]

The NFL dosen't run it because of the risk to big $$$ QB's.

Many college teams won't run it because fans, alumni and boosters don't like watching the same 6-8 plays over and over again.

PJ runs it because he likes winning. Ask the GSU folks.


Lay it out for us. How would you stop it?

The majority of the 12 National Championships won at the U of Alabama they ran the Wish Bone. In the past Jacksonville State ran the Triple Option as well. It won our National Championship in 1992. It is a very strong Offense if ran correctly.

[MplsBison]

NDSU won it's championships in the 80's running the veer TO.

So what?


Defenses catch up and they did.


Notice the trend here? All these teams have since stopped running it because DCs figured it out, just like they figure out every offense eventually.


Same thing is already becoming true of the spread.

[mountain_man]

NDSU won it's championships in the 80's running the veer TO.

So what?


Defenses catch up and they did.


Notice the trend here? All these teams have since stopped running it because DCs figured it out, just like they figure out every offense eventually.


Same thing is already becoming true of the spread.


Maybe I wasn't clear...xeyebrowx


How would MplsBison stop Paul Johnson and the Ramblin' Wreck...

[soweagle]

How many years are going to pass before people quit using the same old excuse for why the triple option is not a good offense. I wish I had a nickle everytime someone told me as a GSU fan that the option is dead, and then we go and raise another championship banner. What is dead is GSU since getting rid of the option.

[GreatAppSt]

How many years are going to pass before people quit using the same old excuse for why the triple option is not a good offense. I wish I had a nickle everytime someone told me as a GSU fan that the option is dead, and then we go and raise another championship banner. What is dead is GSU since getting rid of the option.

xbowx Nebraska as wellxnodx

[GGASU]

Do you know what the spread is by chance ?

http://www.betus.com/sportsbook/ncaa-football_futures-week_1_lines.aspx

28 on betus..

[mountain_man]

Maybe I wasn't clear...xeyebrowx


How would MplsBison stop Paul Johnson and the Ramblin' Wreck...

Still waiting...xcoffeex

[813Jag]

Still waiting...xcoffeex
You'll be waiting all day. xlolx

[MplsBison]

The option play makes a mockery of how the game is supposed to be played.


I'd be just fine with outlawing pitching the ball in any direction.

[BlueHen86]

The option play makes a mockery of how the game is supposed to be played.


I'd be just fine with outlawing pitching the ball in any direction.

I agree. In fact, I think the forward pass should also be a no-no. Three yards and a cloud of dust is the way the game was meant to be played....oh wait....we're playing on turf....make that three yards and a cloud of rubber pellets.

[mountain_man]

The option play makes a mockery of how the game is supposed to be played.


I'd be just fine with outlawing pitching the ball in any direction.

So you would stop it by outlawing it all together?!?xconfusedx

Maybe I'm not clearly stating the question you have failed to answer twice now.
How would MplsBison stop Paul Johnson and the Ramblin' Wreck...

You said the correct defense could stop it, let's have it. What defense would you run and what would you do out of it?

[andy7171]

So you would stop it by outlawing it all together?!?xconfusedx

Maybe I'm not clearly stating the question you have failed to answer twice now.
How would MplsBison stop Paul Johnson and the Ramblin' Wreck...

You said the correct defense could stop it, let's have it. What defense would you run and what would you do out of it?

...but seriously folks, is this mountain_man's first run in with MPLS? It says he's a memeber since '06, he's had to be exposed to our buddy. xconfusedx


Three yards and a cloud of dust!?! The inventors of football never meant for the game to be played that way!

[mountain_man]

...but seriously folks, is this mountain_man's first run in with MPLS? It says he's a memeber since '06, he's had to be exposed to our buddy. xconfusedx


Three yards and a cloud of dust!?! The inventors of football never meant for the game to be played that way!

I've read his post's before. Never replied. Couldn't help myself this time...

[Gamecocks99]

NDSU won it's championships in the 80's running the veer TO.

So what?


Defenses catch up and they did.


Notice the trend here? All these teams have since stopped running it because DCs figured it out, just like they figure out every offense eventually.


Same thing is already becoming true of the spread.

NOT ! The DCs have just gotten younger and dumber !

The Triple Option, Wishbone, Veer, FlexBone etc would be considered core fundamentals. How crazy is it to say you can not pitch the ball. American Football was born from Rugby. Now step back into the real world and answer his Question.

[MplsBison]

I agree. In fact, I think the forward pass should also be a no-no. Three yards and a cloud of dust is the way the game was meant to be played....oh wait....we're playing on turf....make that three yards and a cloud of rubber pellets.

A forward pass is completely different than a pitch.


Red herring attempt denied.



Handoffs and legitimate passes are all that should be allowed.


Anything else is a playground mockery.

[MplsBison]

What defense would you run and what would you do out of it?

A regular 4-3 does fine.



As long as your players stick to their roles, the TO won't gain a single yard.


Today's defensive athletes are too fast for trick plays, like the triple option.

[Dinman31]

A regular 4-3 does fine.



As long as your players stick to their roles, the TO won't gain a single yard.


Today's defensive athletes are too fast for trick plays, like the triple option.

That has been disproven time and time again. Navy consistently beat teams with superior speed and athletes when Paul Johnson was head coach. GSU, with equal or better talent, absolutely smoked opponents when he was there.

The pitch has always been apart of football and always will be!

It is funny to see folks claim that the option is dead. What do Appalachian, West Virginia, Florida, etc run? They run the option. They run read options and similar plays just out of the shotgun. They run reads with a single back and sometimes send the wideout in motion much the same way PJ uses a wing back. Part of the objective of football is to fool the other team to gain a step on the field and that has been perfected lately by teams who also spread the field.

[mountain_man]

A regular 4-3 does fine.



As long as your players stick to their roles, the TO won't gain a single yard.


Today's defensive athletes are too fast for trick plays, like the triple option.

What are you going to do out of your 4-3? Coverage? Dive, QB, pitch responsibilities, etc?

[MplsBison]

What are you going to do out of your 4-3? Coverage? Dive, QB, pitch responsibilities, etc?

Depends on the formation.

[straightshooter]

Don't forget pass. PJ will catch the opposing D sneaking up to the LOS to snuff the run, and he'll motion one of those sub-4.4 A-Backs and have them turn upfield just outside the tackle. This will put a LB man to man on the A-Back, since the WR will run a pattern that will draw the safeties to them. Case closed - TD. LBs in the middle of the field just can't keep up with that kind of speed. I've seen that play work time after time for six when GSU was running PJ's flex option.

[straightshooter]

Too bad that bison's favorite team came to Statesboro a year late. Had GSU still been running their option in '06 with Foster at the trigger, he would have had a new respect for that "outdated" offense.

[MplsBison]

Don't forget pass. PJ will catch the opposing D sneaking up to the LOS to snuff the run, and he'll motion one of those sub-4.4 A-Backs and have them turn upfield just outside the tackle. This will put a LB man to man on the A-Back, since the WR will run a pattern that will draw the safeties to them. Case closed - TD. LBs in the middle of the field just can't keep up with that kind of speed. I've seen that play work time after time for six when GSU was running PJ's flex option.

You want a little basketball player for your "A back"? Fine.

How is he going to block anyone when you do decide to run it?



Believe it or not, they have LBs that run 4.4s and will blow your little basketball triple option back off the field.


It's called real football.

[MplsBison]

Too bad that bison's favorite team came to Statesboro a year late. Had GSU still been running their option in '06 with Foster at the trigger, he would have had a new respect for that "outdated" offense.


*********.


Schemes don't mean ***** about 3 seconds after the ball is snapped. It's all about whose team's man is kicking the ***** out of the other team's man.




Not to mention Bohl ran the defense at Nebraska when they ran the triple option. He knows a thing or two about shutting it down.

See where we beat Nicholls state our first and second years into the transition.

[Henny]

What a Joke MBison. If you are not prepared to defend PJ's offense you will get smoked. You just don't get it and probably never will.

Don't kid yourself, you don't have a clue. We are talking real football. Not the DII you have and dont tell me about Minn. They are the bottom of the Big 10. Nothing to brag about.