Position Rankings- RBs/FBs

[smallcollegefbfan]

Since I started a QB thread let's have a thread for the backs to complete the backfield.

Here are some names to get it started.

RB Tyler Roehl, NDSU
RB Herb Donaldson, WIU
RB Mike McLeod, Yale
RB Jordan Scott, Colgate
RB Corey Lewis, UNI
RB Rashad Jennings, Liberty
RB Jay Lucas, Southeastern Louisiana
RB Byron Lawrence, NW State

FB Joe Casey, Rhode Island
FB Jo Jo Freeman, CCSU
FB Javid Milton, WIU
FB Jon Hall, Cal Poly
FB Marcus Mailei, Weber State
FB Blake Burton, Texas State

Now let's hear from you guys who you feel should be considered.

Stats, analysis, etc. for why your player should be ranked.

[slostang]

I think that Cal Poly has two very good RBs in James Noble (he ran for 1,578 yards as a freshman when he was a featured back) and Ryan Mole (he was the newcomer of the year in the Big Sky his freshman year at Sac State), but they probably wont get a lot of post season honors. That is because Cal Poly runs the triple option which splits the runs between the QB, two slot backs and the fullback. There yds per carry will be very impressive, but they wont have the carries a feature back would have to rack up the total yardage numbers.

[grizband]

For the first time since I can remember, Montana does not have a candidate for this list. After having Humphrey, Green and Lex for so many years, it will be interesting to see how the situation plays out at RB this year for the Griz.

[smallcollegefbfan]

I think that Cal Poly has two very good RBs in James Noble (he ran for 1,578 yards as a freshman when he was a featured back) and Ryan Mole (he was the newcomer of the year in the Big Sky his freshman year at Sac State), but they probably wont get a lot of post season honors. That is because Cal Poly runs the triple option which splits the runs between the QB, two slot backs and the fullback. There yds per carry will be very impressive, but they wont have the carries a feature back would have to rack up the total yardage numbers.

With those two, Hall, and Dally there is a good argument Poly has one of the top backfields in the nation. I almost forgot Noble. We know he is capable of putting up big numbers. He should at least get All-GWFC honors shouldn't he?

[slostang]

With those two, Hall, and Dally there is a good argument Poly has one of the top backfields in the nation. I almost forgot Noble. We know he is capable of putting up big numbers. He should at least get All-GWFC honors shouldn't he?

I would hope so. He certainly has the talent. He was the GWFC co-offensive player of the year his freshman year and this will be his senior year. The problem will be he will probably not get enough carries to put up enough yards. Noble is the type of back who makes the other runners in Cal Poly's backfield better even if he does not touch the ball. That is because in the triple option the defense determines who gets the ball and the defense usually decides to defend Noble which opens it up for one of the other backs. Mole is the same way.

[Gil Dobie]

Since I started a QB thread let's have a thread for the backs to complete the backfield.

Here are some names to get it started.

RB Tyler Roehl, NDSU
RB Herb Donaldson, WIU
RB Jordan Scott, Colgate
RB Corey Lewis, UNI
RB Rashad Jennings, Liberty
RB Jay Lucas, Southeastern Louisiana
RB Byron Lawrence, NW State

FB Joe Casey, Rhode Island
FB Jo Jo Freeman, CCSU
FB Javid Milton, WIU
FB Jon Hall, Cal Poly
FB Marcus Mailei, Weber State
FB Blake Burton, Texas State

Now let's hear from you guys who you feel should be considered.

Stats, analysis, etc. for why your player should be ranked.

Roehl is actually a RB in a FB body. xoopsx

[slostang]

Roehl is actually a RB in a FB body. xoopsx

He has the abililty to run over you, around you and just plain out run you. He is a great RB. He is also good at catching the flare pass out ot the backfield and making some good yards. They slipped him in at the FB position from time to time in the Cal Poly game.

[danefan]

Mike McLeod from Yale should be on that list as a top RB.

[DetroitFlyer]

How about David McCarty from Albany? I was impressed with him at the Gridiron Classic, he could have a monster year in 2008.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Mike McLeod from Yale should be on that list as a top RB.

That was a typo to not have him in the list. He is definitely a top 5 RB.

[danefan]

How about David McCarty from Albany? I was impressed with him at the Gridiron Classic, he could have a monster year in 2008.

McCarty 2007 stats:

219 rushes for 1534 yards (6.9 yds/carry)
125.2 yrds per game
13 rushing TDs
131 receiving yards and 1 TD

According to http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2007&div=5&rpt=IAA_playerrush&site=org

McCarty will be the #5 returning running back.

Top returning RB's by Yds per game:

Player Pos Cl Gm Carries Net TDs Avg Ydspgm

Jordan Scott, Colgate (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=153&player=30)RB JR 11 409 1875 20 4.58 170.45
Mike McLeod, Yale (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=813&player=28)RB JR 10 327 1619 23 4.95 161.90
Herb Donaldson, Western Ill. (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=771&player=3)RB JR 10 259 1491 10 5.76 149.10
Tyler Roehl, North Dakota St. (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=493&player=40)RB JR 10 207 1431 21 6.91 143.10
David McCarty, Albany (N.Y.) (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=14&player=3)RB SO 12 219 1503 13 6.86 125.25
Byron Lawrence, Northwestern St. (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=508&player=22)RB JR 11 246 1377 5 5.60 125.18
William Ford, South Carolina St. (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=647&player=28)RB SO 11 209 1377 4 6.59 125.18
Rashad Jennings, Liberty (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=355&player=3)RB JR 9 191 1113 15 5.83 123.67
Treyvn Smith, Weber St. (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=758&player=25)RB SO 11 261 1310 7 5.02 119.09
David Sinisi, Monmouth (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=439&player=30)RB SO 10 206 1184 17 5.75 118.40
Corey Lewis, Northern Iowa (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=504&player=1)RB JR 13 258 1513 16 5.86 116.38
Jay Lucas, Southeastern La. (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=655&player=20)RB JR 11 173 1239 12 7.16 112.64

[I-AA Fan]

Roehl is actually a RB in a FB body. xoopsx

I consider an FB to be a RB. Half-back, tailbacks, fullbacks, & X-backs can all be Running backs. Although X-backs can be receivers and TE's as well. A full-back is usually just a bigger RB & blocks.

[Gil Dobie]

McCarty 2007 stats:

219 rushes for 1534 yards (6.9 yds/carry)
125.2 yrds per game
13 rushing TDs
131 receiving yards and 1 TD

According to http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2007&div=5&rpt=IAA_playerrush&site=org

McCarty will be the #5 returning running back.

Player Pos Cl Gm Carries Net TDs Avg Ydspgm

Jordan Scott, Colgate (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=153&player=30)RB JR 11 409 1875 20 4.58 170.45
Mike McLeod, Yale (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=813&player=28)RB JR 10 327 1619 23 4.95 161.90
Herb Donaldson, Western Ill. (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=771&player=3)RB JR 10 259 1491 10 5.76 149.10
Tyler Roehl, North Dakota St. (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=493&player=40)RB JR 10 207 1431 21 6.91 143.10
David McCarty, Albany (N.Y.) (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=14&player=3)RB SO 12 219 1503 13 6.86 125.25
Byron Lawrence, Northwestern St. (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=508&player=22)RB JR 11 246 1377 5 5.60 125.18
William Ford, South Carolina St. (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=647&player=28)RB SO 11 209 1377 4 6.59 125.18
Rashad Jennings, Liberty (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=355&player=3)RB JR 9 191 1113 15 5.83 123.67
Treyvn Smith, Weber St. (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=758&player=25)RB SO 11 261 1310 7 5.02 119.09
David Sinisi, Monmouth (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=439&player=30)RB SO 10 206 1184 17 5.75 118.40
Corey Lewis, Northern Iowa (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=504&player=1)RB JR 13 258 1513 16 5.86 116.38
Jay Lucas, Southeastern La. (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=655&player=20)RB JR 11 173 1239 12 7.16 112.64

A key stat is yards per carry, where Lucas, Roehl, McCarty & Ford have pretty good YPC's.

[danefan]

A key stat is yards per carry, where Lucas, Roehl, McCarty & Ford have pretty good YPC's.

Top 5 by Yds/Carry:


Jay Lucas (Southeastern LA) 7.16
Tyler Roehl (NDSU) 6.91
David McCarty (UAlbany) 6.86
William Ford (SC State) 6.59
Corely Lewis (Northern Iowa) 5.86

[813Jag]

A couple of SWAC names to look out for:
Ulysses Banks (Alabama A&M)
Frank Warren (Grambling)
Donald Babers (Prairie View)
Ronald Brewer (Mississippi Valley)

[smallcollegefbfan]

A couple of SWAC names to look out for:
Ulysses Banks (Alabama A&M)
Frank Warren (Grambling)
Donald Babers (Prairie View)
Ronald Brewer (Mississippi Valley)

I like Banks and Warren. I don't remember Babers and Brewer from last year.

If Babers is the starter he would be a safe guess because PVAMU should be improved.

[813Jag]

I like Banks and Warren. I don't remember Babers and Brewer from last year.

If Babers is the starter he would be a safe guess because PVAMU should be improved.
Brewer was a freshman last year, he won't get any notice if Valley doesn't improve. Banks is explosive and Warren split time with another freshman last year.

[already123]

RB Alex Henderson....over a 1000 yards as a freshman! Last year posted 800+ yards while splitting over 200 carries with another RB and a QB...with him getting the majority of snaps with the best running game in the BSC, look for him to have a breakout year!

[already123]

and he is only a junior!

[blueballs]

For the first time since I can remember, Montana does not have a candidate for this list.

The same can be said for Georgia Southern...

[smallcollegefbfan]

The same can be said for Georgia Southern...

Who will the starter be? Mike Hamilton?

[leatherneck177]

Herb Donaldson has had two excellent years. I expect him to the the Gateway Offensive Player of the Year and a strong contender for the Payton Award.

[blueballs]

Who will the starter be? Mike Hamilton?

Mike Hamilton is not a part of the GSU program any longer.

If I had to guess it will be RB by committee but the best prospect of the group is Zeke Rozier, who looked to be a future star and was well on his way to beating out both Lewis and Hamilton before tearing his ACL.

He was awarded a medical RS so he has 4 years of eligibility left. He was held out of contact drills in the spring but according to the coaches is 100% healthy and he has been described as a physical freak by a member of the staff.

Two transfers figure in the mix as well, Ricky Ponton (USF) and darrell Norman (UAB). Ponton is more of a bruiser and norman is a scat back.

There are a handful of freshmen who may challenge for playing time headed by Franklin Green, Derriel Robinson, David Arnold and Adam Urbano.

[813Jag]

Mike Hamilton is not a part of the GSU program any longer.

If I had to guess it will be RB by committee but the best prospect of the group is Zeke Rozier, who looked to be a future star and was well on his way to beating out both Lewis and Hamilton before tearing his ACL.

He was awarded a medical RS so he has 4 years of eligibility left. He was held out of contact drills in the spring but according to the coaches is 100% healthy and he has been described as a physical freak by a member of the staff.

Two transfers figure in the mix as well, Ricky Ponton (USF) and darrell Norman (UAB). Ponton is more of a bruiser and norman is a scat back.

There are a handful of freshmen who may challenge for playing time headed by Franklin Green, Derriel Robinson, David Arnold and Adam Urbano.
I always wanted to see Ponton get a good look at USF, I like to keep an eye on former Hillsborough High Terriers.

[TXST_CAT]

TXST has a Three Headed Monster that shares the Rock. This year look for them to turn into the Four Horsemen of The South when Mishak Rivas joins the team this season.

RUSHING----------GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
Bush, Karrington-- 11 137 1059 20 1039 7.6 3 80 94.5
Zwinggi, Stan ----- 8 74 518 21 497 6.7 9 92 62.1
Canady, Alvin ----11 88 413 36 377 4.3 2 58 34.3

Bush had New commer of the year awards. He had limited touches but did major damage.

Zwinggi Fasted man in pads on the roster. Ask Cal Poly. He torched the team for a 90+ yard TD setting a new rushing TD record. He was injured urring the season but looks to be Healthy to do it all over again in '08.

Canady is a versatile back that lead the charge on many plays as a lead blocker. Just becareful he may be dropping into the flats for a dump pass and turning it up the field for a 20yrd reception.

Mishak Rivas- will be a Freshman lining up at the Slot. The Triple Option fans know this is not just for WR's and can be a major threat for Sweeps, Counters and reverse plays. TXST will be very unpredictable next sesson!!!xpeacex

[I Bleed Purple]

and he is only a junior!
Likely not the best Junior RB in the conference, though.

[Lionsrking]

A key stat is yards per carry, where Lucas, Roehl, McCarty & Ford have pretty good YPC's.

Another factor to consider on behalf of Jay Lucas is that we played three FBS teams last year (also played a horrible D-II), plus he was dinged up midway through the season. Obviously the other guys mentioned in this thread are very much deserving but I'm partial to #20.

[JmuSkinsfan]

Just to throw out a dark horse some may have forgotten about...

Eugene Holloman of JMU was All-CAA going into 2007 after rushing for 1,100 yards in about 7 starts in 2006 as a JUCO transfer. He only lasted a couple games in 2007...played injured...and got redshirted. He will be back and hopefully full strength this season. With Landers and him working that spread option he could rack up a ton of yards and a very high YPC. Of course...after last season's injury JMU played a lot of young RBs who will be competing for playing time after getting plenty last year...so that may take away from his overall numbers...we shall see

[cowbellnation]

He has the abililty to run over you, around you and just plain out run you. He is a great RB. He is also good at catching the flare pass out ot the backfield and making some good yards. They slipped him in at the FB position from time to time in the Cal Poly game.

Unless your name is Jimmy Rodgers

[SteelCurtain]

Herb Donaldson has had two excellent years. I expect him to the the Gateway Offensive Player of the Year and a strong contender for the Payton Award.


Herb is a nice player, I'll give you that..But the Gateway offensive player of the year award will go to Tyler Roehl

[BDKJMU]

Just to throw out a dark horse some may have forgotten about...

Eugene Holloman of JMU was All-CAA going into 2007 after rushing for 1,100 yards in about 7 starts in 2006 as a JUCO transfer. He only lasted a couple games in 2007...played injured...and got redshirted. He will be back and hopefully full strength this season. With Landers and him working that spread option he could rack up a ton of yards and a very high YPC. Of course...after last season's injury JMU played a lot of young RBs who will be competing for playing time after getting plenty last year...so that may take away from his overall numbers...we shall see

Yep, ditto on Holloman. 06' #s:
-------------------- GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
----------------06' 10 192 1121 36 1085 5.7 8 ---80 -108.5
----------------07' -2 --49 --194 14 -180 3.7 0 ---27 --90.0 (was against UNC & UNH)

Started last 8 games of 06' and 1st 2 in 07' before going down to injury:

[katstrapper]

Chris Poullard should be someone to keep an eye on. In his first full season. he started all 11 games and a had very productive numbers....

Att Yds Avg TD
209 1063 5.1 13


Rec Yds Avg TD
37 383 10.4 1



http://www.katfans.com/photos/2007-poullard.jpg

Poullard would have started his freshman year if he had not gotten hurt early on and then when healthy he didnt get his starting job back because of DD Terry, who we all know had a remarkable senior season after being moved from LB.

[AmsterBison]

Homer Alert! Homer Alert!

Now that you've been warned: I'm pretty happy with NDSU's Tyler Jangula at FB. 6'2, 248 and can really crush people when blocking or after he makes a catch - he was the fourth-leading receiver on the team in yardage and TDs (13+ ypc).

On the other hand, he doesn't look very quick ("lumbering" is the word that comes to mind), but he is definitely faster than he looks. Another possible negative depending on what you want from you fullback: He only rushed twice last year. Not really surprising since Roehl rushed for 14 yards his sophomore season at FB despite starting the whole year (followed by 1400+ yard his junior season when they switched him to RB).

I'll let better football minds make the call.

[blackfordpu]

Chris Poullard should be someone to keep an eye on. In his first full season. he started all 11 games and a had very productive numbers....

Att Yds Avg TD
209 1063 5.1 13


Rec Yds Avg TD
37 383 10.4 1



http://www.katfans.com/photos/2007-poullard.jpg

Poullard would have started his freshman year if he had not gotten hurt early on and then when healthy he didnt get his starting job back because of DD Terry, who we all know had a remarkable senior season after being moved from LB.

RB is definetly one of our strongest and deepest positions. Along with Poullard we also have Sneed, Robinson and a transfer back who could provide the "thunder" to go with our "lightening."

[CatFan22]

Watch out for Demetrius Crawford. That is all. xnodx

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g10/longhorn_22/Crawford1.jpg

[spelunker64]

They slipped him in at the FB position from time to time in the Cal Poly game.


Kinda the same way he started as RB, they just slipped him in as RB one day and never looked back :D