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smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 03:52 PM
Here are the picks they had that were done by Otto fad.

Top 25
1. Appalachian State
2. North Dakota State
3. James Madison
4. UMASS
5. Montana
6. Richmond
7. Eastern Washington
8. McNeese State
9. Delaware
10. UNH
11. EKU
12. UNI
13. Montana State
14. SDSU
15. SIU
16. EIU
17. Elon
18. UCA
19. Liberty
20. Hampton
21. Delaware State
22. SHSU
23. Georgia Southern
24. Coastal Carolina
25. Southern

Dane96
May 27th, 2008, 03:53 PM
WOW...those are great picks! Hehehe!!!! You typing that stuff piecemeal?

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 03:58 PM
MVP: QB Armanti Edwards, App State
OFF POY: QB Matt Nichols, EWU
DEF POY: DB Lardarius Webb, Nicholls State
NEWCOMER of Year: QB Rob Schoenhoft, Delaware

OFFENSE FIRST TEAM
QB Armanti Edwards, App State
RB Tyler Roehl, NDSU
RB Herb Donaldson, WIU
WR Ramses Barden, Cal Poly
WR Terrell Hudgins, Elon
TE Scott Sicko, UNH
OL Brad Samsa, YSU
OL Matthew McCracken, Richmond
OL Aaron Lockwood, SIU
OL Brent Russum, Montana
OL J.D. Quinn, Montana
K Jon Striefsky, Delaware

SECOND TEAM OFFENSE
QB Liam Coen, UMASS
RB Mike McLeod, Yale
RB Jordan Scott, Colgate
WR Andre Roberts, The Citadel
WR Eddie Thompson, Idaho State
TE Clay Harbor, Missouri State
OL Jeff Hansen, Montana State
OL Eman Naghavi, McNeese State
OL Brad Gordon, Central Arkansas
OL David Arkin, Missouri State
OL Kheon Hendricks, Delaware
AP Corey Lewis, UNI
K Gavin Hallford, JSU

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 04:00 PM
DEFENSE FIRST TEAM
DL Anthony Williams, App State
DL Mychal Savage, YSU
DL Brian Jackson, Lehigh
DL Gary Tharrington, App State
LB Pierre Banks, App State
LB Bobby Daly, Montana State
LB Jason Williams, WIU
DB Lardarius Webb, Nicholls State
DB Brandon Gathof, EKU
DB Terrell Whitehead, Norfolk State
DB Al Donaldson, Alabama A&M
P Robbie Dehaze, NAU
RET Corey Council, BCC

SECOND TEAM DEFENSE
DL Mark Huygens, UNI
DL Jovan Belcher, Maine
DL Matt Marcorelle, Delaware
DL Greg Peach, EWU
LB Bobby Abare, Yale
LB Damian Perkins, SFA
LB Mario Brown, Gardner-Webb
DB Zach Denton, EKU
DB K.J. Gerard, NAU
DB David Hyland, Morehead State
DB Clayton Johnson, SIU
P Kevin Cook, EIU
RET Justin Rogers, Richmond

SideLine Shooter
May 27th, 2008, 04:03 PM
Here are their picks

Top 25
1. Appalachian State
2. North Dakota State
3. James Madison
4. UMASS
5. Montana
6. Richmond
7. Eastern Washington
8. McNeese State
9. Delaware
10. UNH
11. EKU
12. UNI
13. Montana State
14. SDSU
15. SIU
16. EIU
17. Elon
18. UCA
19. Liberty
20. Hampton
21. Delaware State
22. SHSU
23. Georgia Southern
24. Coastal Carolina
25. Southern

I think somebody is smokin something!!!

danefan
May 27th, 2008, 04:06 PM
Here are their picks

Top 25
1. Appalachian State
2. North Dakota State
3. James Madison
4. UMASS
5. Montana
6. Richmond
7. Eastern Washington
8. McNeese State
9. Delaware
10. UNH
11. EKU
12. UNI
13. Montana State
14. SDSU
15. SIU
16. EIU
17. Elon
18. UCA
19. Liberty
20. Hampton
21. Delaware State
22. SHSU
23. Georgia Southern
24. Coastal Carolina
25. Southern

xconfusedx

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 04:08 PM
xconfusedx

Hampton could be a top 25 team if they can replace TJ Mitchell. Knowing he is gone I shake my head at that selection as well. Liberty could be a top 25 team. Their biggest question mark is the OL.

bandl
May 27th, 2008, 04:08 PM
Here are their picks

Top 25
1. Appalachian State
2. North Dakota State
3. James Madison
4. UMASS
5. Montana
6. Richmond
7. Eastern Washington
8. McNeese State
9. Delaware
10. UNH
11. EKU
12. UNI
13. Montana State
14. SDSU
15. SIU
16. EIU
17. Elon
18. UCA
19. Liberty
20. Hampton
21. Delaware State
22. SHSU
23. Georgia Southern
24. Coastal Carolina
25. Southern

Kids...this is why you should not smoke crack AND marijuana at the same time. xrulesx

AppAlum2003
May 27th, 2008, 04:09 PM
Kids...this is why you should not smoke crack AND marijuana at the same time. xrulesx

crackijuana?

Cleets
May 27th, 2008, 04:09 PM
Harvard is better than 1/3 of the teams on that list..!!!! xlolx

MaximumBobcat
May 27th, 2008, 04:09 PM
Who the **** is Lindy and why is she so bad at making picks?





































xsmiley_wix xsmiley_wix xsmiley_wix

813Jag
May 27th, 2008, 04:11 PM
xconfusedx
I'm not saying that Southern should be on that list, but they did finish 8-3 last season. xreadx

I didn't vote for my own school in the AGS poll but I'm hard to please.

ericsaid
May 27th, 2008, 04:11 PM
Elon would be higher, but the All american teams i agree with. Minus Pierre Banks, I think D.J. Smith will produce better and be a first teamer. Buck Buchanon award candidate for 09'.

danefan
May 27th, 2008, 04:11 PM
Hampton could be a top 25 team if they can replace TJ Mitchell. Knowing he is gone I shake my head at that selection as well. Liberty could be a top 25 team. Their biggest question mark is the OL.

Maybe, but too many question marks for a preseason top 20 team - either of them.

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 04:13 PM
Does anyone want the 2nd team All-America list or any conference order of finishes?

slostang
May 27th, 2008, 04:13 PM
I'm not saying that Southern should be on that list, but they did finish 8-3 last season. xreadx

I didn't vote for my own school in the AGS poll but I'm hard to please.

I had Southern in my poll. They were 8-3 in 2007 and return 8 starters on both sides of the ball including their QB (if I remember correctly).

slostang
May 27th, 2008, 04:14 PM
Does anyone want the 2nd team All-America list or any conference order of finishes?

Absolutely. Should be fun.

grizband
May 27th, 2008, 04:14 PM
Does anyone want the 2nd team All-America list or any conference order of finishes?
Yes, I would like to see them.

CrazyCat
May 27th, 2008, 04:15 PM
Does anyone want the 2nd team All-America list or any conference order of finishes?

Lets see them all xthumbsupx

danefan
May 27th, 2008, 04:18 PM
I'm not saying that Southern should be on that list, but they did finish 8-3 last season. xreadx

I didn't vote for my own school in the AGS poll but I'm hard to please.


I had Southern in my poll. They were 8-3 in 2007 and return 8 starters on both sides of the ball including their QB (if I remember correctly).

You are both right. I take my xconfusedx back about Southern. Although I still think there is more deserving teams in the top 25 I can see the thought process.

putter
May 27th, 2008, 04:19 PM
Not ranking Cal Poly at all? I could argue against a few of those teams on that list that Poly should be ahead of.

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 04:19 PM
Some interesting things/errors about the picks in here:

1. They put AE on the All-America team but did not put Nichols. Nichols was the OFF POY while Edwards was the MVP. Liam Coen was the 2nd team QB.
2. Did not know that App State was playing Georgia State this year on Oct. 18?
3. They have Jason Williams of WIU on the All-America team but no Eric Schroeder of SDSU and yet Schroeder is the DEF POY of the Gateway.
4. Sean Lawyer of Cal Poly was listed as GWFC DEF POY but they have him as playing for UC Davis.
5. 2 EKU players are listed on All-America defense but neither are the ones selected as DEF POY for OVC as their DL Chris Coy was selected.
6. 3 SoCon players made the 1st team All-America list but none were chosen SoCon DEF POY. They chose LB Joseph Thornton of UTC over Banks even though Banks was on the team and Thornton wasn't.
7. Hampton QB TJ Mitchell was named MEAC OFF POY but he has been suspended.

SideLine Shooter
May 27th, 2008, 04:20 PM
Harvard is better than 1/3 of the teams on that list..!!!! xlolx

At what?xeyebrowx xeyebrowx

putter
May 27th, 2008, 04:20 PM
Does Delaware St have many returners? After their game with Delaware I was surprised to see them ranked as high as they were.

89Hen
May 27th, 2008, 04:23 PM
Does Delaware St have many returners? After their game with Delaware I was surprised to see them ranked as high as they were.
IMO they shouldn't be ranked after seeing them in person last year.

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 04:23 PM
2nd team offense and defense are posted under 1st teams in above posts.

Gil Dobie
May 27th, 2008, 04:25 PM
xconfusedx

AGS voted NDSU #4, is there a big difference between 2 and 4 at in the preseason?

Gil Dobie
May 27th, 2008, 04:26 PM
IMO they shouldn't be ranked after seeing them in person last year.

Delaware was way under-rated last season. Probably could have beat anyone but App St ;)

danefan
May 27th, 2008, 04:27 PM
AGS voted NDSU #4, is there a big difference between 2 and 4 at in the preseason?

Whoops. That's wasn't supposed to be red or bold.
Sorry.

grizband
May 27th, 2008, 04:27 PM
Some interesting things/errors about the picks in here:

1. They put AE on the All-America team but did not put Nichols. Nichols was the OFF POY while Edwards was the MVP. Liam Coen was the 2nd team QB.
2. Did not know that App State was playing Georgia State this year on Oct. 18?
3. They have Jason Williams of WIU on the All-America team but no Eric Schroeder of SDSU and yet Schroeder is the DEF POY of the Gateway.
4. Sean Lawyer of Cal Poly was listed as GWFC DEF POY but they have him as playing for UC Davis.
5. 2 EKU players are listed on All-America defense but neither are the ones selected as DEF POY for OVC as their DL Chris Coy was selected.
6. 3 SoCon players made the 1st team All-America list but none were chosen SoCon DEF POY. They chose LB Joseph Thornton of UTC over Banks even though Banks was on the team and Thornton wasn't.
Seems like they spread around the awards in the interest of "fairness" rather than using any logic for their assignments.

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 04:44 PM
If anyone wants to see a certain conference's order of finish just tell me which one and I will post it.

TTUEagles
May 27th, 2008, 04:46 PM
I can probably guess, but I would like to see the OVC prediction: EKU, EIU, Jax St, then the rest of us...

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 04:50 PM
OVC

1. EKU
2. EIU
3. Austin Peay
4. JSU
5. UT Martin
6. Tenn. St.
7. Tenn. Tech
8. SEMO
9. Murray St.

OFF POY: QB Allan Holland, EKU
DEF POY: DL Chris Coy, EKU

GOKATS
May 27th, 2008, 04:56 PM
I don't place much faith in Lindy's, but how did they pick the Big Sky?

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 05:01 PM
BIG SKY

OFF POY: Matt Nichols, QB, EWU
DEF POY: Bobby Daly, LB, Montana State

1. Montana
2. EWU
3. MSU
4. PSU
5. Sacramento St.
6. NAU
7. Idaho St.
8. Weber St.
9. Northern Colorado

CharlestonAppFan
May 27th, 2008, 05:02 PM
SoCon?

GOKATS
May 27th, 2008, 05:04 PM
BIG SKY

OFF POY: Matt Nichols, QB, EWU
DEF POY: Bobby Daly, LB, Montana State

1. Montana
2. EWU
3. MSU
4. PSU
5. Sacramento St.
6. NAU
7. Idaho St.
8. Weber St.
9. Northern Colorado

Thanks, I think.:D At least I agree with the two POY's.xnodx

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 05:04 PM
SOCON

OFF POY: Armanti Edwards, QB, Appalachian State
DEF POY: Joseph Thornton, LB, Chattanooga

1. App State
2. Elon
3. GSU
4. Furman
5. Wofford
6. Citadel
7. UTC
8. WCU
9. Samford

bostonspider
May 27th, 2008, 05:08 PM
and the CAA?

danefan
May 27th, 2008, 05:08 PM
Do they even preview the NEC?

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 05:10 PM
CAA

OFF POY: Liam Coen, QB, UMASS
DEF POY: Matt Marcorelle, DL, Delaware

NORTH
1. UMASS
2. UNH
3. Hofstra
4. Maine
5. Northeastern
6. Rhode Island

SOUTH
1. JMU
2. Delaware
3. Richmond
4. Villanova
5. W&M
6. Towson

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 05:15 PM
NEC

OFF POY: David Sinisi, Monmouth
DEF POY: Robert Brown, DL, Wagner

1. Albany
2. Duquesne
3. Monmouth
4. Wagner
5. Robert Morris
6. CCSU
7. St. Francis
8. Sacred Heart

turbodean
May 27th, 2008, 05:21 PM
Do they rank Patriot or Ivy?

TheValleyRaider
May 27th, 2008, 05:28 PM
Fordham returns almost all of a growing team that went toe-to-toe with UMass, and is unranked (along with the rest of the PL)

The MEAC, whose best last year (Delaware State) got ripped a new one by UD, gets 2 teams ranked

Anyone? xconfusedx xeyebrowx

Gil Dobie
May 27th, 2008, 05:39 PM
Gateway :)

furman94
May 27th, 2008, 07:33 PM
Here are the picks they had that were done by Otto fad.

Top 25
1. Appalachian State
2. North Dakota State
3. James Madison
4. UMASS
5. Montana
6. Richmond
7. Eastern Washington
8. McNeese State
9. Delaware
10. UNH
11. EKU
12. UNI
13. Montana State
14. SDSU
15. SIU
16. EIU
17. Elon
18. UCA
19. Liberty
20. Hampton
21. Delaware State
22. SHSU
23. Georgia Southern
24. Coastal Carolina
25. Southern


Um Coastal? Not so much! I understand GSU, but we beat um both! Give FU some # 25 lovin!

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 07:55 PM
PATRIOT LEAGUE

OFF POY: Jordan Scott, RB, Colgate
DEF POY: Andy Romans, LB, Lafayette

1. Holy Cross
2. Colgate
3. Fordham
4. Lehigh
5. Lafayette
6. Bucknell
7. Georgetown

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 07:56 PM
GATEWAY

OFF POY: Herb Donalson, RB, WIU
DEF POY: ERic Schroeder, SDSU

1. NDSU
2. UNI
3. SDSU
4. SIU
5. WIU
6. YSU
7. Illinois St.
8. Missouri St.
9. Indiana St.

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 07:56 PM
IVY LEAGUE

OFF POY: Mike McLeod, RB, Yale
DEF POY: Bobby Abare, LB, Yale

1. Harvard
2. Yale
3. Penn
4. Princeton
5. Brown
6. Dartmouth
7. Cornell
8. Columbia

EmeryZach
May 27th, 2008, 07:58 PM
Yeah! My boy Liam is the second team all american QB! sweet

Cocky
May 27th, 2008, 10:32 PM
OVC

1. EKU
2. EIU
3. Austin Peay
4. JSU
5. UT Martin
6. Tenn. St.
7. Tenn. Tech
8. SEMO
9. Murray St.

OFF POY: QB Allan Holland, EKU
DEF POY: DL Chris Coy, EKU

I doubt Murray will come in last. I would put EIU at the top and AP would go down a few. Overall, I believe our league is getting better but someone needs to step up and make some playoff noise.

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 11:23 PM
BIG SOUTH

OFF POY: Tim Maypray, RB, VMI
DEF POY: Mario Brown, LB, Gardner-Webb

1. Liberty
2. Coastal Carolina
3. Gardner-Webb
4. Charleston Southern
5. VMI
6. Stony Brook
7. Presbyterian

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 11:24 PM
MEAC

OFF POY: TJ Mitchell, QB, Hampton
DEF POY: Terrell Whitehead, DB, Norfolk State

1. Hampton
2. Del. St.
3. SC St.
4. WSSU
5. Norfolk St.
6. FAMU
7. Morgan St.
8. BCC
9. Howard
10. NC A&T

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 11:25 PM
SOUTHLAND

OFF POY: Nathan Brown, QB, Central Arkansas
DEF POY: Lardarius Webb, DB, Nicholls St.

1. McNeese St.
2. SHSU
3. SFA
4. UCA
5. Texas St.
6. NW St.
7. Nicholls St.
8. SE Louisiana

slostang
May 27th, 2008, 11:25 PM
GWFC???

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 11:27 PM
SWAC

OFF POY: Bryant Lee, QB, Southern
DEF POY: Al Donaldson, DB, Alabama A&M

EAST DIVISION
1. Jackson St.
2. Alabama A&M
3. Alabama St.
4. Alcorn St.
5. MVSU

WEST DIVISION
1. Southern
2. Grambling St.
3. PVAMU
4. Ark.-Pine Bluff
5. Texas Southern

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 11:28 PM
GWFC

OFF POY: Ramses Barden, WR, Cal Poly
DEF POY: Sean Lawyer, DL, Cal Poly

1. UC Davis
2. North Dakota
3. Cal Poly
4. South Dakota
5. Southern Utah

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 11:31 PM
FCS INDEPENDENTS

OFF POY: Stradford Brown, QB, NC Central
DEF POY: Javorris Jackson, DB, Savannah St.

1. NC Central
2. Bryant
3. Marist
4. Iona
5. Savannah St.

smallcollegefbfan
May 27th, 2008, 11:32 PM
I think that is everyone. If I am missing a league, let me know.

McNeese75
May 27th, 2008, 11:42 PM
SOUTHLAND

OFF POY: Nathan Brown, QB, Central Arkansas
DEF POY: Lardarius Webb, DB, Nicholls St.

1. McNeese St.
2. SHSU
3. SFA
4. UCA
5. Texas St.
6. NW St.
7. Nicholls St.
8. SE Louisiana

xrolleyesx xoopsx

slostang
May 28th, 2008, 12:42 AM
GWFC

OFF POY: Ramses Barden, WR, Cal Poly
DEF POY: Sean Lawyer, DL, Cal Poly

1. UC Davis
2. North Dakota
3. Cal Poly
4. South Dakota
5. Southern Utah

Cal Poly not in the top 25 and #3 in the GWFC.

Do they know that Cal Poly beat UC Davis on the road last year 63-28 and return 10 offensive starters and 7 defensive starters (including Lindy's OFF POY and DEF POY)? I am not saying that Davis wont win the GWFC, but I would think that Cal Poly would be ranked ahead of them in the preseason.

Bearkats94
May 28th, 2008, 12:43 AM
That dose look a little funny having SFA rank that high after loosing every game last year. I think these guy are playing darts when they are picking these pre-season polls.xchinscratchx

TheValleyRaider
May 28th, 2008, 12:56 AM
PATRIOT LEAGUE

OFF POY: Jordan Scott, RB, Colgate
DEF POY: Andy Romans, LB, Lafayette

1. Holy Cross
2. Colgate
3. Fordham
4. Lehigh
5. Lafayette
6. Bucknell
7. Georgetown

Looks reasonable enough. I'm surprised they picked the Cross to win, but didn't take QB Randolph as OFF POY (esp. given he won the award last season)

Nothing seems overly out of the ordinary with these picks, though I would be very, very shocked if Fordham isn't most people's Preseason #1

Lionsrking
May 28th, 2008, 12:58 AM
SOUTHLAND

OFF POY: Nathan Brown, QB, Central Arkansas
DEF POY: Lardarius Webb, DB, Nicholls St.

1. McNeese St.
2. SHSU
3. SFA
4. UCA
5. Texas St.
6. NW St.
7. Nicholls St.
8. SE Louisiana

Not saying we'll finish first by any means, but I don't see us finishing last. Last year, four of our five conference losses could have easily gone the other way, and we'll be much improved defensively in '08. We only have three conference games at home, but I like our chances to improve on our 2-5 SLC record of a year ago.

Keeper
May 28th, 2008, 03:25 AM
pioneer???

Keeper
May 28th, 2008, 03:54 AM
Some interesting things/errors about the picks in here:

1. They put AE on the All-America team but did not put Nichols. Nichols was the OFF POY while Edwards was the MVP. Liam Coen was the 2nd team QB.
2. Did not know that App State was playing Georgia State this year on Oct. 18?
3. They have Jason Williams of WIU on the All-America team but no Eric Schroeder of SDSU and yet Schroeder is the DEF POY of the Gateway.
4. Sean Lawyer of Cal Poly was listed as GWFC DEF POY but they have him as playing for UC Davis.
5. 2 EKU players are listed on All-America defense but neither are the ones selected as DEF POY for OVC as their DL Chris Coy was selected.
6. 3 SoCon players made the 1st team All-America list but none were chosen SoCon DEF POY. They chose LB Joseph Thornton of UTC over Banks even though Banks was on the team and Thornton wasn't.
7. Hampton QB TJ Mitchell was named MEAC OFF POY but he has been suspended.

QUARTERBACK: With all-MEAC quarterback T.J. Mitchell sidelined much of the spring for disciplinary reasons, sophomore Herbert Bynes had a chance to snag the starting job. He didn’t.

Holmes said the two will enter camp in August on even footing. Holmes likes Bynes’ poise and leadership, but thinks that Mitchell understands the offense better.

813Jag
May 28th, 2008, 06:31 AM
You are both right. I take my xconfusedx back about Southern. Although I still think there is more deserving teams in the top 25 I can see the thought process.
I agree there may be more deserving teams for that spot, I jsut wanted to point out that they were worthy of consideration. Their 3 losses were by 12 points.

JohnStOnge
May 28th, 2008, 07:17 AM
Originally Posted by SmallCollegeFBFan
SOUTHLAND

OFF POY: Nathan Brown, QB, Central Arkansas
DEF POY: Lardarius Webb, DB, Nicholls St.

1. McNeese St.
2. SHSU
3. SFA
4. UCA
5. Texas St.
6. NW St.
7. Nicholls St.
8. SE Louisiana

I'd have UCA as the favorite because it was a very young team last year and has an excellent player who also has the intangibles as a leader coming back at the quarterback position.

OL FU
May 28th, 2008, 07:18 AM
I agree there may be more deserving teams for that spot, I jsut wanted to point out that they were worthy of consideration. Their 3 losses were by 12 points.

xthumbsupx on the avatarxnodx

DFW HOYA
May 28th, 2008, 07:35 AM
PATRIOT LEAGUE
1. Holy Cross
2. Colgate
3. Fordham
4. Lehigh
5. Lafayette
6. Bucknell
7. Georgetown

Eighth straight year at #7.

I think once Georgetown was once picked seventh when the PL was at eight, but no pre-season poll will pick a 1-10 team losing its QB, RB, and WR above last.

813Jag
May 28th, 2008, 07:49 AM
xthumbsupx on the avatarxnodx
The only reason I follow the Bucs. xlolx

smallcollegefbfan
May 28th, 2008, 08:04 AM
pioneer???

PIONEER LEAGUE

OFF POY: JT Rogan, RB, San Diego
DEF POY: David Hyland, DB, Morehead State

1. San Diego
2. Morehead St.
3. Dayton
4. Jacksonville
5. Davidson
6. Drake
7. Valparaiso
8. Butler
9. Campbell

NSUSPARTAN
May 28th, 2008, 11:26 AM
MEAC

OFF POY: TJ Mitchell, QB, Hampton
DEF POY: Terrell Whitehead, DB, Norfolk State

1. Hampton
2. Del. St.
3. SC St.
4. WSSU
5. Norfolk St.
6. FAMU
7. Morgan St.
8. BCC
9. Howard
10. NC A&T

How can you have WSSU in the poll they are in MEAC until 2009! Hampton is ranked pretty high after an OK year & losing their whole D-Line.
SC ST is ranked too low also.

smallcollegefbfan
May 28th, 2008, 11:28 AM
How can you have WSSU in the poll they are in MEAC until 2009! Hampton is ranked pretty high after an OK year & losing their whole D-Line.
SC ST is ranked too low also.

I didn't do these rankings... :)

Lehigh Football Nation
May 28th, 2008, 11:38 AM
PATRIOT LEAGUE

OFF POY: Jordan Scott, RB, Colgate
DEF POY: Andy Romans, LB, Lafayette

1. Holy Cross
2. Colgate
3. Fordham
4. Lehigh
5. Lafayette
6. Bucknell
7. Georgetown

I really, really don't understand why he picks Fordham to finish 3rd after hardly graduating anybody and (oh by the way) winning the League last year. What exactly did Colgate do to deserve being ranked ahead of them? Losing last year to Fordham? Blowing the last game of the year to lose a probable playoff spot? Graduating their best defensive player? Suffering the distraction of the Jordan Scott affair?

I mean, Colgate is a very good team and I don't want to sell them short (for example, of course they should be picked in front of Lehigh and Lafayette), but I have a very difficult time fathoming why Fordham suffers such a lack of respect. And as others have pointed out, they played UMass very tough in the playoffs last year.

smallcollegefbfan
May 28th, 2008, 11:40 AM
I really, really don't understand why he picks Fordham to finish 3rd after hardly graduating anybody and (oh by the way) winning the League last year. What exactly did Colgate do to deserve being ranked ahead of them? Losing last year to Fordham? Blowing the last game of the year to lose a probable playoff spot? Graduating their best defensive player? Suffering the distraction of the Jordan Scott affair?

I mean, Colgate is a very good team and I don't want to sell them short (for example, of course they should be picked in front of Lehigh and Lafayette), but I have a very difficult time fathoming why Fordham suffers such a lack of respect. And as others have pointed out, they played UMass very tough in the playoffs last year.

You guys should email Otto Fad and ask him his reasons. I am sure he has a good reason for that.

TheValleyRaider
May 28th, 2008, 12:05 PM
I really, really don't understand why he picks Fordham to finish 3rd after hardly graduating anybody and (oh by the way) winning the League last year. What exactly did Colgate do to deserve being ranked ahead of them? Losing last year to Fordham? Blowing the last game of the year to lose a probable playoff spot? Graduating their best defensive player? Suffering the distraction of the Jordan Scott affair?

I mean, Colgate is a very good team and I don't want to sell them short (for example, of course they should be picked in front of Lehigh and Lafayette), but I have a very difficult time fathoming why Fordham suffers such a lack of respect. And as others have pointed out, they played UMass very tough in the playoffs last year.

He's probably saying to himself that the PL Preseason favorite never wins the League, so he's better off picking someone else xrotatehx

smallcollegefbfan
May 28th, 2008, 12:07 PM
He's probably saying to himself that the PL Preseason favorite never wins the League, so he's better off picking someone else xrotatehx

Possibly... xthumbsupx

Lionsrking
May 28th, 2008, 12:58 PM
I'd have UCA as the favorite because it was a very young team last year and has an excellent player who also has the intangibles as a leader coming back at the quarterback position.

Offensively, they'll be outstanding and will hang points on anyone, but I'm not sold on them defensively. They have some guys coming in who will help, but I suspect they'll be in for a bunch of shootouts again in '08.

BisonBacker
May 28th, 2008, 01:03 PM
GWFC

OFF POY: Ramses Barden, WR, Cal Poly
DEF POY: Sean Lawyer, DL, Cal Poly

1. UC Davis
2. North Dakota
3. Cal Poly
4. South Dakota
5. Southern Utah

Wow, Cal Poly behind both? No way xsmhx

mountaineertider
May 28th, 2008, 01:06 PM
Quite frankly I put zero stock into Lindy's FCS Rankings. Why?

My dad went to college with him (University of Alabama '78) and the guy always was talking about football and such. So much so, that he needed my dad to tutor him in STATISTICS of all things (kind of important when anaylizing teams). Anyways, he knows absolutely nothing about any football outside the SEC and ACC, and has been dishing stuff like that out for other people to write for years. He knows absolutely nothing about FCS.

FormerPokeCenter
May 28th, 2008, 02:49 PM
Not saying we'll finish first by any means, but I don't see us finishing last. Last year, four of our five conference losses could have easily gone the other way, and we'll be much improved defensively in '08. We only have three conference games at home, but I like our chances to improve on our 2-5 SLC record of a year ago.

Maybe three of your five could have gone either way....The outcomes of two of them were never seriously in doubt. You and I both know you got gashed for three quarters by Northwestern, who kept you in the game because of their injuries and second quarter benevolence....;)

I don't really have to go into the other one, do I? ;)

GoAgs72
May 28th, 2008, 03:43 PM
I think UC Davis will be greatly improved in 2008 but it would be difficult to pick them over Cal Poly at this point.

GeauxLions94
May 28th, 2008, 06:35 PM
Damian Perkins (Stephen F. Austin) is a Preseason Second-Team All-America pick. He was booted off the team midway last season xoopsx

For anyone who wishes to buy the latest copy of Lindy's ...

Save the $7!!!

already123
May 29th, 2008, 05:03 AM
there is no way NAU finishes 6th this season! wow...


and I'm going to go out on a limb and nominate CB KJ Gerard or LB Cyrus Mulitalo for def POY in the BSC this season...!

Mountain Panther
May 29th, 2008, 08:12 AM
Here are the picks they had that were done by Otto fad.

Top 25
1. Appalachian State
2. North Dakota State
3. James Madison
4. UMASS
5. Montana
6. Richmond
7. Eastern Washington
8. McNeese State
9. Delaware
10. UNH
11. EKU
12. UNI
13. Montana State
14. SDSU
15. SIU
16. EIU
17. Elon
18. UCA
19. Liberty
20. Hampton
21. Delaware State
22. SHSU
23. Georgia Southern
24. Coastal Carolina
25. Southern

Same-ole-same-ole from Lindy's. xcoffeex

UCABEARS75
May 29th, 2008, 10:01 AM
Offensively, they'll be outstanding and will hang points on anyone, but I'm not sold on them defensively. They have some guys coming in who will help, but I suspect they'll be in for a bunch of shootouts again in '08.

Have to agree with Lionsrking on this one. We will be outstanding on offense and SHOULD BE improved on defense but the proof will be on the field.

I would pick McNeese #1 and us (UCA) #2. We get them at home this year but they kicked our behinds pretty good last year giving us a dose of reality.

I know the coaches did not like how McNeese moved the ball up and down the field on us and went out and got 6 very solid defensive transfers.

Can't wait until the season starts.

CID1990
May 29th, 2008, 03:46 PM
Here are the picks they had that were done by Otto fad.

Top 25
1. Appalachian State
2. North Dakota State
3. James Madison
4. UMASS
5. Montana
6. Richmond
7. Eastern Washington
8. McNeese State
9. Delaware
10. UNH
11. EKU
12. UNI
13. Montana State
14. SDSU
15. SIU
16. EIU
17. Elon
18. UCA
19. Liberty
20. Hampton
21. Delaware State
22. SHSU
23. Georgia Southern
24. Coastal Carolina
25. Southern

I just have one question.... if FCS is a thoroughbred race, then why all the nags in this poll?

Retro
May 29th, 2008, 03:53 PM
SOUTHLAND

OFF POY: Nathan Brown, QB, Central Arkansas
DEF POY: Lardarius Webb, DB, Nicholls St.

1. McNeese St.
2. SHSU
3. SFA
4. UCA
5. Texas St.
6. NW St.
7. Nicholls St.
8. SE Louisiana

Otto fad's an idiot.. He put's a delaware team that lost the core of it's offense and had a terrible defense at 9th and then put's SFA who didn't win a game last year as 3rd place SLC team above UCA and NWST that actually showed promise.

DSUrocks07
May 29th, 2008, 09:36 PM
Here are the picks they had that were done by Otto fad.

Top 25
1. Appalachian State
2. North Dakota State
3. James Madison
4. UMASS
5. Montana
6. Richmond
7. Eastern Washington
8. McNeese State
9. Delaware
10. UNH
11. EKU
12. UNI
13. Montana State
14. SDSU
15. SIU
16. EIU
17. Elon
18. UCA
19. Liberty
20. Hampton
21. Delaware State xconfusedx
22. SHSU
23. Georgia Southern
24. Coastal Carolina
25. Southern

I'm as big as a Delaware State fan as they come but I feel like we shouldn't be a preseason Top 25 team just yet (especially after the UD game:( )

CopperCat
May 29th, 2008, 09:38 PM
there is no way NAU finishes 6th this season! wow...


and I'm going to go out on a limb and nominate CB KJ Gerard or LB Cyrus Mulitalo for def POY in the BSC this season...!

That guy is a great player, but ain't NO WAY he is beating out Bobby Daly for that distinction.xnodx

AZJack
May 31st, 2008, 12:29 AM
With a young and inexperienced O-line, there is no way SDSU finishes 3rd in the Gateway. I'm hoping they do as that'll put them in the playoffs, but with there schedule it is going to be very difficult.