What Non-listed School makes noise?

[ngineer]

Now that the the Pre-Season Top 25 and "others" are listed, what team, who did not receive any votes,will make the biggest noise this year..i.e. the true 'dark horses' who have a lot of talent, but also a lot of question marks? Who will be we puzzling over in November and say, "Where did they come from?"...

[TexasTerror]

Prairie View A&M.

We'll know a lot more about then when they face Sam Houston State early in the season and this may be the year they finally get over the Grambling hump.

Henry Frazier III has done a great job in building that program up and they have taken over the reigns and run with them in their big rivalry game against Texas Southern, who will this year, counter with Bobby Reid, formerly of Oklahoma State.

I'm pulling for PV!

[ngineer]

No question there was never a bigger doormat for years than Prairie View. Building up that program, where many schools would have terminated, says a lot.

[danefan]

I think it will be Stony Brook, as much as it pains me to say that.

Another year with scholarships and full program funding and a great head coach will do them wonders. I look for them to make some noise and compete for the Big South championship and an at-large.

[AZGrizFan]

I'm going to say Weber State. Weber could beat 20 of the 46 schools listed here.....


1. Appalachian St. (76)
2. James Madison (2)
3. Richmond (1)
4. North Dakota St. (2)
5. Northern Iowa
6. Massachusetts
7. Montana
8. McNeese St.
9. Eastern Washington
10. Wofford
11. Delaware
12. Southern Illinois
13. Cal Poly (1)
14. Youngstown St.
15. Elon
16. Georgia Southern
17. Villanova
18. South Dakota St.
19. Eastern Illinois
20. New Hampshire
21. The Citadel
22. Eastern Kentucky
23. Fordham
24. Yale
25. Furman
Others receiving votes (minimum of 5 votes): Harvard (33), Sam Houston St. (31), Delaware St. (29), Northern Arizona (27), Central Arkansas (24), Montana St. (24), Jackson St. (23), South Carolina St. (22), Jacksonville St. (18), Grambling St. (16), Liberty (16), Holy Cross (14), Western Illinois (13), Albany (12), Hofstra (12), Dayton (10), Hampton (10), Nicholls St. (7), Coastal Carolina (5), Colgate (5), Norfolk St. (5)

[89Hen]

Now that the the Pre-Season Top 25 and "others" are listed, what team, who did not receive any votes,will make the biggest noise this year..i.e. the true 'dark horses' who have a lot of talent, but also a lot of question marks? Who will be we puzzling over in November and say, "Where did they come from?"...
How about Lehigh?

[FCS Go!]

Missouri St- if they play well at home could cause havoc in Gateway.
W & M- most key players on offense and defense return. spoiler in CAA.
Weber St- my homer pick, finished strong last year.

[Syntax Error]

I'm going to say Weber State. Weber could beat 20 of the 46 schools listed here.....Why do you say that? xconfusedx

Last year:
L Thu 8/30/2007 Weber State at Boise State Boise State 56-7
L Sat 9/15/2007 Weber State at Cal Poly Cal Poly 47-19
L Sat 9/22/2007 Montana State at Weber State Montana State 21-5
L Sat 9/29/2007 Weber State at Montana Montana 18-10
Sat 10/6/2007 Sacramento St at Weber State Weber State 26-7
Sat 10/13/2007 Weber State at Northern Colorado Weber State 23-0
L Sat 10/20/2007 Northern Ariz at Weber State Northern Ariz 29-20
Sat 10/27/2007 Weber State at Portland State Weber State 73-68
Sat 11/3/2007 Idaho State at Weber State Weber State 52-37
Sat 11/10/2007 Fort Lewis at Weber State Weber State 48-3
L Sat 11/17/2007 Weber State at Eastern Wash Eastern Wash 38-16

They beat Sacramento State, Northern Colorado, Idaho State, Fort Lewis and squeaked past PSU. Now you say they will beat all these ranked teams?

WHY? Because they always play the Griz strong????????

[813Jag]

Prairie View A&M.

We'll know a lot more about then when they face Sam Houston State early in the season and this may be the year they finally get over the Grambling hump.

Henry Frazier III has done a great job in building that program up and they have taken over the reigns and run with them in their big rivalry game against Texas Southern, who will this year, counter with Bobby Reid, formerly of Oklahoma State.

I'm pulling for PV!
I'm watching them closely, last years game with them was a dog fight and I expect another good one, but I still feel the west will come down to Grambling and Southern.

I hate being a homer but getting over the JSU hump and beating Grambling and PV will help the Jags make noise. This could be their best team since '03.

[FCS Go!]

Why do you say that? xconfusedx

Last year:
L Thu 8/30/2007 Weber State at Boise State Boise State 56-7
L Sat 9/15/2007 Weber State at Cal Poly Cal Poly 47-19
L Sat 9/22/2007 Montana State at Weber State Montana State 21-5
L Sat 9/29/2007 Weber State at Montana Montana 18-10
Sat 10/6/2007 Sacramento St at Weber State Weber State 26-7
Sat 10/13/2007 Weber State at Northern Colorado Weber State 23-0
L Sat 10/20/2007 Northern Ariz at Weber State Northern Ariz 29-20
Sat 10/27/2007 Weber State at Portland State Weber State 73-68
Sat 11/3/2007 Idaho State at Weber State Weber State 52-37
Sat 11/10/2007 Fort Lewis at Weber State Weber State 48-3
L Sat 11/17/2007 Weber State at Eastern Wash Eastern Wash 38-16

They beat Sacramento State, Northern Colorado, Idaho State, Fort Lewis and squeaked past PSU. Now you say they will beat all these ranked teams?

WHY? Because they always play the Griz strong????????

Weber St looked very dangerous down the stretch last year, inconsistent, but dangerous. Watching them play would give you a different impression than just looking at the scores of their last five games. The Griz game is a no-counter- both teams sucked. If they can improve on defense and continue to mature as an offense, they could be a serious to challenge UM/EWU/NAU for the conf title.

[AZGrizFan]

Why do you say that? xconfusedx

Last year:
L Thu 8/30/2007 Weber State at Boise State Boise State 56-7
L Sat 9/15/2007 Weber State at Cal Poly Cal Poly 47-19
L Sat 9/22/2007 Montana State at Weber State Montana State 21-5
L Sat 9/29/2007 Weber State at Montana Montana 18-10
Sat 10/6/2007 Sacramento St at Weber State Weber State 26-7
Sat 10/13/2007 Weber State at Northern Colorado Weber State 23-0
L Sat 10/20/2007 Northern Ariz at Weber State Northern Ariz 29-20
Sat 10/27/2007 Weber State at Portland State Weber State 73-68
Sat 11/3/2007 Idaho State at Weber State Weber State 52-37
Sat 11/10/2007 Fort Lewis at Weber State Weber State 48-3
L Sat 11/17/2007 Weber State at Eastern Wash Eastern Wash 38-16

They beat Sacramento State, Northern Colorado, Idaho State, Fort Lewis and squeaked past PSU. Now you say they will beat all these ranked teams?

WHY? Because they always play the Griz strong????????

Because I'm entitled to my opinion, that's why. I know what their record was last year. I know who they played, and who they lost to. This team went 5-2 over their last 7 games, losing only to EWU and NAU. They were a different team than the one that started the year 0-4. For the record, those are NOT two of the 20 teams I believe WSU could beat (of the 46 in the poll---nor is Montana or Cal Poly)....THey finished 4-4 in conference last year, and with a bounce here or there, could have been 6-2. THAT'S the Weber I'm talking about.

[AZGrizFan]

I'm going to say Weber State. Weber could beat 20 of the 46 schools listed here.....


1. Appalachian St. (76)
2. James Madison (2)
3. Richmond (1)
4. North Dakota St. (2)
5. Northern Iowa
6. Massachusetts
7. Montana
8. McNeese St.
9. Eastern Washington
10. Wofford
11. Delaware
12. Southern Illinois
13. Cal Poly (1)
14. Youngstown St.
15. Elon
16. Georgia Southern
17. Villanova
18. South Dakota St.
19. Eastern Illinois
20. New Hampshire
21. The Citadel
22. Eastern Kentucky
23. Fordham
24. Yale
25. Furman
Others receiving votes (minimum of 5 votes): Harvard (33), Sam Houston St. (31), Delaware St. (29), Northern Arizona (27), Central Arkansas (24), Montana St. (24), Jackson St. (23), South Carolina St. (22), Jacksonville St. (18), Grambling St. (16), Liberty (16), Holy Cross (14), Western Illinois (13), Albany (12), Hofstra (12), Dayton (10), Hampton (10), Nicholls St. (7), Coastal Carolina (5), Colgate (5), Norfolk St. (5)


THESE 20, SE.

Discuss.... xcoffeex xcoffeex xcoffeex

[mainejeff]

I'd say Maine if Jack Cosgrove wasn't the coach.

[AZGrizFan]

I'd say Maine if Jack Cosgrove wasn't the coach.


I really would like to see Maine return to prominence. Or at least competitiveness... xnodx xnodx xnodx

[BearsCountry]

The Bears have a good shot if the young talent comes through. Terry Allen is the x-factor.

[89Hen]

This team went 5-2 over their last 7 games, losing only to EWU and NAU.
I really don't have a dog in this fight, but 5-2 including wins over Ft. Lewis, UNC, and ISU... xcoffeex

[AZGrizFan]

I really don't have a dog in this fight, but 5-2 including wins over Ft. Lewis, UNC, and ISU... xcoffeex


They all count, don't they? Well, except maybe Ft Lewis. xeyebrowx

[slostang]

UC Davis could be good this year. They return 9 starters on offense and have one of the deepest set of WR in the FCS. They struggled defensively last year, but had some injuries that really hurt them (perseason All-American DT Faletoese for one). If their defense rebounds and their new QB does well, they could make some noise.

[89Hen]

They all count, don't they? Well, except maybe Ft Lewis. xeyebrowx
Give Weber SUU's schedule from last year and they go 0-11 just like the Thunderbirds.

Montana 37 - SUU 17
Montana 18 - Weber 10

MSU 7 - SUU 3
MSU 21 - Weber 5

CalPoly 28- SUU 21
CalPoly 47 - Weber 19

xeyebrowx

[LUHawker]

How about Lehigh?

I don't know if you are baiting the starter of this thread, but I think Lehigh has too many question marks on offense at this point to feel confident that they will make a big statement this year. Questions at QB and receiver are at the forefront and there seems to be some dispute whether Lehigh's O-line was the source of problems last year. (I think the entire O was to blame.) The defense should be outstanding this year, but I'm not sure Lehigh is ready for prime time. The last couple of recruiting classes, including this year's, appear to be very strong, so there could be some upside surprises in 2008. If Lehigh can settle on a QB that can really just manage the offense and not make mistakes at critical points like last year, a couple of more wins this year could be possible. Confidence in the head coach, Coen, is dissipating fast, so a quick start would help. We'll get a real feel for how good (or bad) Lehigh is when they visit Villanova in week 2.

[89Hen]

I don't know if you are baiting the starter of this thread...
Not at all, I just can't imagine you guys can stay down much longer. xthumbsupx

[grizband]

Why do you say that? xconfusedx

Last year:
L Thu 8/30/2007 Weber State at Boise State Boise State 56-7
L Sat 9/15/2007 Weber State at Cal Poly Cal Poly 47-19
L Sat 9/22/2007 Montana State at Weber State Montana State 21-5
L Sat 9/29/2007 Weber State at Montana Montana 18-10
Sat 10/6/2007 Sacramento St at Weber State Weber State 26-7
Sat 10/13/2007 Weber State at Northern Colorado Weber State 23-0
L Sat 10/20/2007 Northern Ariz at Weber State Northern Ariz 29-20
Sat 10/27/2007 Weber State at Portland State Weber State 73-68
Sat 11/3/2007 Idaho State at Weber State Weber State 52-37
Sat 11/10/2007 Fort Lewis at Weber State Weber State 48-3
L Sat 11/17/2007 Weber State at Eastern Wash Eastern Wash 38-16

They beat Sacramento State, Northern Colorado, Idaho State, Fort Lewis and squeaked past PSU. Now you say they will beat all these ranked teams?

WHY? Because they always play the Griz strong????????
I'm not convinced Weber will be good this year; I've heard it for 3 years, and this conjecture has yet to be shown. However, when the easiest game you play in the first four weeks is Montana State, I think that's saying something for losing all four games.

[AZGrizFan]

Give Weber SUU's schedule from last year and they go 0-11 just like the Thunderbirds.

Montana 37 - SUU 17
Montana 18 - Weber 10

MSU 7 - SUU 3
MSU 21 - Weber 5

CalPoly 28- SUU 21
CalPoly 47 - Weber 19

xeyebrowx


Weber wins 4 games on that schedule. xpeacex

[TheValleyRaider]

I don't know if you are baiting the starter of this thread, but I think Lehigh has too many question marks on offense at this point to feel confident that they will make a big statement this year. Questions at QB and receiver are at the forefront and there seems to be some dispute whether Lehigh's O-line was the source of problems last year. (I think the entire O was to blame.) The defense should be outstanding this year, but I'm not sure Lehigh is ready for prime time. The last couple of recruiting classes, including this year's, appear to be very strong, so there could be some upside surprises in 2008. If Lehigh can settle on a QB that can really just manage the offense and not make mistakes at critical points like last year, a couple of more wins this year could be possible. Confidence in the head coach, Coen, is dissipating fast, so a quick start would help. We'll get a real feel for how good (or bad) Lehigh is when they visit Villanova in week 2.

The QB position definately seemed to be unsettled when you guys came up to Colgate. They kept switching QBs, and running different sets of plays for each of them. The rest of the offense never really got into a rhythm

It's true that Coen is trying to overhaul the offense, going from one that liked to air it out to a more conservative, run-based attack, right? If so, I wonder if he'd need another season or two to really get his recruits in there to make a real difference xconfusedx

[89Hen]

Weber wins 4 games on that schedule. xpeacex
They'd lose 14.

[AZGrizFan]

They'd lose 14.

ECB. xcoffeex

[89Hen]

ECB. xcoffeex
SUU is in the east? xeyebrowx :p

[AZGrizFan]

SUU is in the east? xeyebrowx :p


No. You hate all WC teams equally. xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xcoffeex xnonox xnonox xnonox xwhistlex

[89Hen]

No. You hate all WC teams equally. xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xcoffeex xnonox xnonox xnonox xwhistlex
Pretty much. :D

[ngineer]

How about Lehigh?

Just got in late tonight. LUHawker's reply is quite on the mark. Lehigh could well be a big surprise this year if a QB steps forward and runs the offense AND the O-line does a credible job. Defense should be stellar as well as special teams. Kicking game should be one of the best in the East. So with a strong D and good special teams, the team should be in position to win a lot of games...can they win the close ones that over the past couple years that have gone the other way? Lehigh could well go 9-2/8-3 this year, and with some wrong bounces or blown plays go 4-7. I tend to think a 7-4/8-3 record is most likely..The only game where we should be prohibitive underdogs is at Villanova..A win at Villanova will speak volumes as to where this team can go.

[Seawolf97]

I think it will be Stony Brook, as much as it pains me to say that.

Another year with scholarships and full program funding and a great head coach will do them wonders. I look for them to make some noise and compete for the Big South championship and an at-large.

I hope you are right. They are loaded with talent we havent seen yet and if everything clicks they will be tough.

[Hoseinexile07]

Liberty will make the playoffs this year and could go as far as the semi-finals. xoopsx


Presbyterian has the potential to make noise this season even though we aren't eligible for the playoffs until 2011.

[already123]

Uh, did anyone else notice that Montana State is ranked a bit high?? xconfusedx xconfusedx

[Go...gate]

I believe Pennsylvania is due to get back on track again.

[AmsterBison]

I'm going with UC Davis. I keep expecting them to break out.

Gotta keep that Faletoese guy healthy though.

[89Hen]

Liberty will make the playoffs this year and could go as far as the semi-finals. xoopsx
xeyebrowx There's another wager I'd be willing to take.

[Cobblestone]

I don't know how much noise URI will make but I think we will surprise some people. Darren Rizzi has hired what appears to be a good staff and he did a great job recruiting. He'll have a lot of cleaning up to do this season after the mess Stowers made but we're headed in the proper direction. I won't predict a winning season but I predict some upsets.

[redflash2]

St. Francis could start off 7-0 before they face albany. Sounds good lol....xrotatehx

[danefan]

St. Francis could start off 7-0 before they face albany. Sounds good lol....xrotatehx

Nice to be optimistic......I guessxrolleyesx

I see one (Sacred Heart), maybe two wins in our first 7 games.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

If we are basing this on where teams are in the rankings versus where they could end up, then I have to bring up Furman. They could bounce back this year, or they may not.