ASU= #15 among Nations Top Athletics Departments

[Mountaineer2825]

Interesting article about App. State being one of the nations top Athletic Departments. Appalachian is the only FCS school included in the rankings.

http://www.goasu.com/article/11857/
GO APP!

[Appstate29]

haha! good stuff. I'll take 15th!

[GOKATS]

Congrats!!

Enter ronbo in 5.......4...........3...........2..........1...... ....xsmiley_wix

[Appstate29]

its very objective, and the methodology seems a bit....perplexing (GVSU, Washington U (DIII) a NAIA school, ALL ahead of ASU. But any publicity...

[APPALACHIANstate]

Why shouldn't they be ahead of ASU?

[thmst30]

Whats the ETA for this thread getting derailed by anti-app comments?

[KiddBrewer]

making any list like this is a good thing, imo. i dont think you can argue against it from an improvements standpoint, as we have improved GREATLY in the last 3-5 years. do we belong on the list? i dont really know. there are a lot of great athletics departments out there. I certainly believe GVSU and the other lower level schools deserve on the list.....they do by far some of, if not the best work in their respective divisions, and this list is a judge of that rather than public noteability and hype. For whatever reason, Im glad my school was considered.

[KiddBrewer]

Whats the ETA for this thread getting derailed by anti-app comments?

oh yea, i give it about a day.xsmiley_wix

[Seawolf97]

Congratulations ! Thats pretty good companyxthumbsupx

[Appaholic]

oh yea, i give it about a day.xsmiley_wix

.....or until FTG'06 finds the thread.........;)

[crunifan]

Isn't the goal of an athletic department to be profitable while putting talented teams on the field? Of course academics is included in that as well.

But from my standpoint, Appalachian State is only good at football. There is no way they should be ahead of Ohio State who has national championship caliber football, basketball, etc.

And if we go off of academics, absolutely nobody can compete with the Ivies, MIT, Stanford, etc.

I just don't understand their criteria. It's a nice honor and all, but I'm very skeptic.

[thmst30]

Isn't the goal of an athletic department to be profitable while putting talented teams on the field? Of course academics is included in that as well.

But from my standpoint, Appalachian State is only good at football. There is no way they should be ahead of Ohio State who has national championship caliber football, basketball, etc.

And if we go off of academics, absolutely nobody can compete with the Ivies, MIT, Stanford, etc.

I just don't understand their criteria. It's a nice honor and all, but I'm very skeptic.
Ummm, did you even look at the list?

[KiddBrewer]

Isn't the goal of an athletic department to be profitable while putting talented teams on the field? Of course academics is included in that as well.

But from my standpoint, Appalachian State is only good at football. There is no way they should be ahead of Ohio State who has national championship caliber football, basketball, etc.

And if we go off of academics, absolutely nobody can compete with the Ivies, MIT, Stanford, etc.

I just don't understand their criteria. It's a nice honor and all, but I'm very skeptic.


Just a few tid bits from the 2006-2007 Annual Report.....

"En route to winning its 28th Commissioner’s
Cup, Appalachian became
the first institution in modern SoCon
history (1972-) to defeat every team
in the conference in football, men’s
basketball and baseball in the same
academic year."

"For the second-consecutive year,
Appalachian claimed both the Southern
Conference’s Commissioner’s and Germann
Cups in 2006-07. The Commissioner’s
and Germann Cups are presented annually
to the conference’s top all-around
men’s and women’s all-sports programs.
Appalachian is the only institution
in SoCon history to win both cups in the
same academic year, a feat it has now
accomplished eight times.
The Commissioner’s Cup is the 28th
overall and 23rd in the last 24 years for
the Mountaineers’ men’s programs. Conference
championships in football, cross
country and indoor track and field and
the North Division title in men’s basketball
garnered the Apps first with 86.5
points, 16 points ahead of second-place
UNC Greensboro. The 16-point margin of
victory is the third-largest in the 38-year
history of the Commissioner’s Cup.


2006-2007 All Sport Awards.....

Football........you already know
Men's Cross Country.......SoCon Champions
Women's Indoor Track and Field......SoCon Champions
Men's Indoor Track and Field......SoCon Champions
Men's Basketball.......SoCon North Division Champions
Women's Cross Country.......SoCon Runner-Up
Men's Outdoor Track and Field........SoCon Runner-Up
Women's Outdoor Track and Field.....SoCon Runner-Up


Academic Recognitions

Men's Basketball/Women's CC.......Top 10 Nationally Multi-Year Progress

NFHCA National Academic Team Award
Field Hockey
(among top five for all Division I field hockey programs with 3.43 team GPA)

Appalachian is one of just six institutions to have multiple
programs that earned NCAA Public Recognition Awards in
2006-07, with ASU and UNC Greensboro being the SoCon’s
only public institutions to earn the distinction.

[thmst30]

Just a few tid bits from the 2006-2007 Annual Report.....

"En route to winning its 28th Commissioner’s
Cup, Appalachian became
the first institution in modern SoCon
history (1972-) to defeat every team
in the conference in football, men’s
basketball and baseball in the same
academic year."

"For the second-consecutive year,
Appalachian claimed both the Southern
Conference’s Commissioner’s and Germann
Cups in 2006-07. The Commissioner’s
and Germann Cups are presented annually
to the conference’s top all-around
men’s and women’s all-sports programs.
Appalachian is the only institution
in SoCon history to win both cups in the
same academic year, a feat it has now
accomplished eight times.
The Commissioner’s Cup is the 28th
overall and 23rd in the last 24 years for
the Mountaineers’ men’s programs. Conference
championships in football, cross
country and indoor track and field and
the North Division title in men’s basketball
garnered the Apps first with 86.5
points, 16 points ahead of second-place
UNC Greensboro. The 16-point margin of
victory is the third-largest in the 38-year
history of the Commissioner’s Cup.


2006-2007 All Sport Awards.....

Football........you already know
Men's Cross Country.......SoCon Champions
Women's Indoor Track and Field......SoCon Champions
Men's Indoor Track and Field......SoCon Champions
Men's Basketball.......SoCon North Division Champions
Women's Cross Country.......SoCon Runner-Up
Men's Outdoor Track and Field........SoCon Runner-Up
Women's Outdoor Track and Field.....SoCon Runner-Up


Academic Recognitions

Men's Basketball/Women's CC.......Top 10 Nationally Multi-Year Progress

NFHCA National Academic Team Award
Field Hockey
(among top five for all Division I field hockey programs with 3.43 team GPA)

Appalachian is one of just six institutions to have multiple
programs that earned NCAA Public Recognition Awards in
2006-07, with ASU and UNC Greensboro being the SoCon’s
only public institutions to earn the distinction.
Couldn't have said it better myself. xthumbsupx

[crunifan]

Ummm, did you even look at the list?

With the way they arranged it I thought it was descending order. Either way, it changes nothing.

Appalachian State simply does not have one of the 15 best athletic departments in the country.

The only thing on that list I agree with is Stanford being number one. They somehow seem to managing having national championship caliber teams, amazingly intelligent student-athletes, with tons of sports and many of them profitably. They know what they are doing in Palo Alto, that is for sure.

Plus, if you want to play that game:

UNI...

Football (I'm sure you all familiar with UNI's success, albeit not as much as ASU)
Men's Basketball (2004, 2005, and 2006 trips to the NCAA tournament)
Volleyball (2006 and 2007 trips to the NCAA tournament and MVC Champs)
Men's Indoor Track (top 10 national ranking and MVC Champs)
Women's Indoor Track (MVC Champs)
Wrestling (20th in the nation ranking, WWC Champs)
Men's Outdoor Track (national ranking, and will win the MVC title)
Women's Outdoor Track (will also win the MVC title)
Baseball (currently atop the MVC, even ahead of top ten ranked Wichita State)

UNI has much more national success overall compared to Appalachian State. Sure you have the football success (although UNI is not too far behind) but UNI kills in other sports. Plus the MVC is a much harder, more nationally competitive conference than the SoCon.

Does UNI deserve to be on this list? Hell no.

I'm sure some Mountaineer fans will jump on this, so have at it.

[Appstate29]

maybe UNI was 16th???

[thmst30]

Well, what can I say. As usual the experts who researched for hours and judged this list must be wrong, and the average fans of schools not on the list are right that their competitors are not deserving.

P.S.- Its looking like its not even going to take one day KiddBrewer.

[crunifan]

maybe UNI was 16th???

I'm not sure why, but I thought that was hilarious. It would be even funnier it was true. xlolx

[Poly Pigskin]

I like how UCLA isn't on the list, yet they became the first school to win 100 NCAA championships within the last year. Definitely not one of the top athletic departments...xrolleyesx

[Cleets]

Just a few tid bits from the 2006-2007 Annual Report.....

"En route to winning its 28th Commissioner’s
Cup, Appalachian became
the first institution in modern SoCon
history (1972-) to defeat every team
in the conference in football, men’s
basketball and baseball in the same
academic year."

"For the second-consecutive year,
Appalachian claimed both the Southern
Conference’s Commissioner’s and Germann
Cups in 2006-07. The Commissioner’s
and Germann Cups are presented annually
to the conference’s top all-around
men’s and women’s all-sports programs.
Appalachian is the only institution
in SoCon history to win both cups in the
same academic year, a feat it has now
accomplished eight times.
The Commissioner’s Cup is the 28th
overall and 23rd in the last 24 years for
the Mountaineers’ men’s programs. Conference
championships in football, cross
country and indoor track and field and
the North Division title in men’s basketball
garnered the Apps first with 86.5
points, 16 points ahead of second-place
UNC Greensboro. The 16-point margin of
victory is the third-largest in the 38-year
history of the Commissioner’s Cup.


2006-2007 All Sport Awards.....

Football........you already know
Men's Cross Country.......SoCon Champions
Women's Indoor Track and Field......SoCon Champions
Men's Indoor Track and Field......SoCon Champions
Men's Basketball.......SoCon North Division Champions
Women's Cross Country.......SoCon Runner-Up
Men's Outdoor Track and Field........SoCon Runner-Up
Women's Outdoor Track and Field.....SoCon Runner-Up


Academic Recognitions

Men's Basketball/Women's CC.......Top 10 Nationally Multi-Year Progress

NFHCA National Academic Team Award
Field Hockey
(among top five for all Division I field hockey programs with 3.43 team GPA)

Appalachian is one of just six institutions to have multiple
programs that earned NCAA Public Recognition Awards in
2006-07, with ASU and UNC Greensboro being the SoCon’s
only public institutions to earn the distinction.

Impressive...!!!

[TheValleyRaider]

I also am curious as to how they determined these rankings. I found the article and read it, but there really doesn't seem to be anything there. Of course, I'd never heard of "Hall of Fame" magazine until now either, but perhaps it's more widely known than I realize

Here's the full article: http://www.hofmag.com/content/view/1009/60/1/0/

An impressive list of schools, no doubt, and good for App. to be on it, for sure

[Nebuta]

Congrats ASU :)

[SideLine Shooter]

Just a few tid bits from the 2006-2007 Annual Report.....

"En route to winning its 28th Commissioner’s
Cup, Appalachian became
the first institution in modern SoCon
history (1972-) to defeat every team
in the conference in football, men’s
basketball and baseball in the same
academic year."

"For the second-consecutive year,
Appalachian claimed both the Southern
Conference’s Commissioner’s and Germann
Cups in 2006-07. The Commissioner’s
and Germann Cups are presented annually
to the conference’s top all-around
men’s and women’s all-sports programs.
Appalachian is the only institution
in SoCon history to win both cups in the
same academic year, a feat it has now
accomplished eight times.
The Commissioner’s Cup is the 28th
overall and 23rd in the last 24 years for
the Mountaineers’ men’s programs. Conference
championships in football, cross
country and indoor track and field and
the North Division title in men’s basketball
garnered the Apps first with 86.5
points, 16 points ahead of second-place
UNC Greensboro. The 16-point margin of
victory is the third-largest in the 38-year
history of the Commissioner’s Cup.


2006-2007 All Sport Awards.....

Football........you already know
Men's Cross Country.......SoCon Champions
Women's Indoor Track and Field......SoCon Champions
Men's Indoor Track and Field......SoCon Champions
Men's Basketball.......SoCon North Division Champions
Women's Cross Country.......SoCon Runner-Up
Men's Outdoor Track and Field........SoCon Runner-Up
Women's Outdoor Track and Field.....SoCon Runner-Up


Academic Recognitions

Men's Basketball/Women's CC.......Top 10 Nationally Multi-Year Progress

NFHCA National Academic Team Award
Field Hockey
(among top five for all Division I field hockey programs with 3.43 team GPA)

Appalachian is one of just six institutions to have multiple
programs that earned NCAA Public Recognition Awards in
2006-07, with ASU and UNC Greensboro being the SoCon’s
only public institutions to earn the distinction.



VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE!!!!!!xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx

[SideLine Shooter]

With the way they arranged it I thought it was descending order. Either way, it changes nothing.

Appalachian State simply does not have one of the 15 best athletic departments in the country.

The only thing on that list I agree with is Stanford being number one. They somehow seem to managing having national championship caliber teams, amazingly intelligent student-athletes, with tons of sports and many of them profitably. They know what they are doing in Palo Alto, that is for sure.

Plus, if you want to play that game:

UNI...

Football (I'm sure you all familiar with UNI's success, albeit not as much as ASU)
Men's Basketball (2004, 2005, and 2006 trips to the NCAA tournament)
Volleyball (2006 and 2007 trips to the NCAA tournament and MVC Champs)
Men's Indoor Track (top 10 national ranking and MVC Champs)
Women's Indoor Track (MVC Champs)
Wrestling (20th in the nation ranking, WWC Champs)
Men's Outdoor Track (national ranking, and will win the MVC title)
Women's Outdoor Track (will also win the MVC title)
Baseball (currently atop the MVC, even ahead of top ten ranked Wichita State)

UNI has much more national success overall compared to Appalachian State. Sure you have the football success (although UNI is not too far behind) but UNI kills in other sports. Plus the MVC is a much harder, more nationally competitive conference than the SoCon.

Does UNI deserve to be on this list? Hell no.

I'm sure some Mountaineer fans will jump on this, so have at it.


Sounds like somebody has a big chip on their shoulder!!xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx

[tke504oa]

Apps list of acomplishments seems to be longer so no you do not deserve to be on the listxrulesx xsmiley_wix

[appfan2008]

that was pretty cool to be ranked up there with all those other programs... i think charlie's head is getting pretty big... as well as other school's desire to have him

[Touchdown Yosef]

that was pretty cool to be ranked up there with all those other programs... i think charlie's head is getting pretty big... as well as other school's desire to have him

Unfortuneately I think you are spot on there, I hope he loves Boone and we can keep him for as long as possible.

[appfan2008]

Unfortuneately I think you are spot on there, I hope he loves Boone and we can keep him for as long as possible.

big money comes calling when you have success....

[OL FU]

Whats the ETA for this thread getting derailed by anti-app comments?

App Sucksxmadx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx








What time is itxconfusedx xsmiley_wix

[AshevilleApp2]

App Sucksxmadx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx








What time is itxconfusedx xsmiley_wix

xlolx xlolx xlolx What took you so long!

[Mountain Panther]

Interesting article about App. State being one of the nations top Athletic Departments. Appalachian is the only FCS school included in the rankings.

http://www.goasu.com/article/11857/
GO APP!

Congrats! xthumbsupx

[SideLine Shooter]

App Sucksxmadx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx








What time is itxconfusedx xsmiley_wix

Now OL FU, do you really want to stir the shat and get everybody to point out ALL the shortcomings of FURMAN U. I don't think so. Give App their props, They have earned them..xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx

[OL FU]

Now OL FU, do you really want to stir the shat and get everybody to point out ALL the shortcomings of FURMAN U. I don't think so. Give App their props, They have earned them..xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx

I give them propsxthumbsupx Hard to argue with three in a row:(












My previous comment standsxlolx

[SideLine Shooter]

I give them propsxthumbsupx Hard to argue with three in a row:(












My previous comment standsxlolx


xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx

[SoCon48]

Unfortuneately I think you are spot on there, I hope he loves Boone and we can keep him for as long as possible.

When the football program sags, he'll hit the road.xeyebrowx
He knows he came at the right time.

[patssle]

Dosn't your AD have 10-15 other sports? Plus the academics side?

How can they give you that award just because you win in football?

[AppStFan76]

Dosn't your AD have 10-15 other sports? Plus the academics side?

How can they give you that award just because you win in football?

Because our football program is thatgood!

[Rekdiver]

This survey/report is about as objective as all the university rankings for best value schools: top national universities/ B schools...the list goes on.
I think (while I enjoy the pub) these rankings are absolutely meaningless.

Our basketball, baseball and soccer teams are regionally mediocre. I could give a rat's arse about the Commissioners Cup or Germain's Cup. We used to have a nationally ranked soccer program and let it get away from us.

Get my teams into the playoffs. Nothing else is acceptable. Keep your rankings.

[Franks Tanks]

What was the criteria of these rankings? they seem purely subjective. If that is the case than Kansas should be number 1. Won the NCAA BB title and the Orange Bowl--not too shabby for one year.

[DLS]

Shouldnt women's athletics only count half?

[yosef1969]

I'm as much a homer as anyone and I appreciate the recognition but I have to be skeptical of a list of top athletic departments that doesn't include the University of Florida.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Congrats! xthumbsupx



Just think... you're only four behind Azusa Pacific!

[SoCon48]

Dosn't your AD have 10-15 other sports? Plus the academics side?

How can they give you that award just because you win in football?

Dude, guess you missed the post early in this thread:

Just a few tid bits from the 2006-2007 Annual Report.....

"En route to winning its 28th Commissioner’s
Cup, Appalachian became
the first institution in modern SoCon
history (1972-) to defeat every team
in the conference in football, men’s
basketball and baseball in the same
academic year."

"For the second-consecutive year,
Appalachian claimed both the Southern
Conference’s Commissioner’s and Germann
Cups in 2006-07. The Commissioner’s
and Germann Cups are presented annually
to the conference’s top all-around
men’s and women’s all-sports programs.
Appalachian is the only institution
in SoCon history to win both cups in the
same academic year, a feat it has now
accomplished eight times.
The Commissioner’s Cup is the 28th
overall and 23rd in the last 24 years for
the Mountaineers’ men’s programs. Conference
championships in football, cross
country and indoor track and field and
the North Division title in men’s basketball
garnered the Apps first with 86.5
points, 16 points ahead of second-place
UNC Greensboro. The 16-point margin of
victory is the third-largest in the 38-year
history of the Commissioner’s Cup.


2006-2007 All Sport Awards.....

Football........you already know
Men's Cross Country.......SoCon Champions
Women's Indoor Track and Field......SoCon Champions
Men's Indoor Track and Field......SoCon Champions
Men's Basketball.......SoCon North Division ChampionsWomen's Cross Country.......SoCon Runner-UpMen's Outdoor Track and Field........SoCon Runner-UpWomen's Outdoor Track and Field.....SoCon Runner-Up
Academic RecognitionsMen's Basketball/Women's CC.......Top 10 Nationally Multi-Year Progress
NFHCA National Academic Team Award
Field Hockey
(among top five for all Division I field hockey programs with 3.43 team GPA)

Appalachian is one of just six institutions to have multiple
programs that earned NCAA Public Recognition Awards in
2006-07, with ASU and UNC Greensboro being the SoCon’s
only public institutions to earn the distinction.

[patssle]

Dude, guess you missed the post early in this thread:



I did miss it. I read the article and the only thing I saw was


HOF Magazine writer Jim Weber cites Appalachian football’s 34-32 win over fifth-ranked Michigan and third-straight NCAA Division I national championship as reasons for the Mountaineers’ inclusion on the list

You would think the school that got the ranking would pimp its own awards and accomplishments on its own news release to why it got the ranking.

So that said, I retract my last statement ;)

[neersnbeers]

I'm as much a homer as anyone and I appreciate the recognition but I have to be skeptical of a list of top athletic departments that doesn't include the University of Florida.

No Doubt!xnodx

[SoCon48]

I did miss it. I read the article and the only thing I saw was



You would think the school that got the ranking would pimp its own awards and accomplishments on its own news release to why it got the ranking.

So that said, I retract my last statement ;)

So I retract the "Dude" part. xnodx

[BEAR]

With every mountain there is a valley. The more success APP has, the more likely that those who brought that success will be taken away by the almighty dollar to go work their magic at other schools. Get ready APP, it never happens when you want it...because you'll never want it to. xlolx xlolx xlolx Just a sad fact of life. xcoffeex

[montanafan]

I am not trying to take anything away from APP Sate because they surely deserve to be recognized for the success that they have had. But, have any of you actually heard of, much less read the "Hall of Fame" magazine? I have never heard of it nor have I ever read anything from them. So, to say that this list is all that is really not true until it comes from something more creditable. Sorry

[Skjellyfetti]

So, to say that this list is all that is really not true until it comes from something more creditable. Sorry

Find another AD ranking by a more reputable source. Thanks.

[SoCon48]

I am not trying to take anything away from APP Sate because they surely deserve to be recognized for the success that they have had. But, have any of you actually heard of, much less read the "Hall of Fame" magazine? I have never heard of it nor have I ever read anything from them. So, to say that this list is all that is really not true until it comes from something more creditable. Sorry

I have never heard of it

I seriously doubt they've heard of you either. Does that make you not "credible?"

[SideLine Shooter]

With every mountain there is a valley. The more success APP has, the more likely that those who brought that success will be taken away by the almighty dollar to go work their magic at other schools. Get ready APP, it never happens when you want it...because you'll never want it to. xlolx xlolx xlolx Just a sad fact of life. xcoffeex

That is exactly why you ride the horse as long as it is running!!!xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx

[ButlerGSU]

I'm as much a homer as anyone and I appreciate the recognition but I have to be skeptical of a list of top athletic departments that doesn't include the University of Florida.

I'm thinking the same thing - plus Stanford is #1?

[Appaholic]

That is exactly why you ride the horse as long as it is running!!!xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx


Yeah....just don't try to park the horse in Raley lot any longer.......xwhistlex
























:p xsmiley_wix

[BEAR]

I bet this is also an APP thread.

[813Jag]

I'm as much a homer as anyone and I appreciate the recognition but I have to be skeptical of a list of top athletic departments that doesn't include the University of Florida.
Not if you're counting this year. The Gators were average in 07 across the board.



















































BTW I'm a Nole fan. xlolx