LSU to play Appalachian State

[Zoo]

http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=27815&SPID=2164&ATCLID=1385619&DB_OEM_ID=5200

Think they can pull it off again?

[ISUMatt]

Better watch out, LSU. Appalachian State is coming to town.

The Mountaineers, who kicked off last year's wacky college football season with a stunning win at Michigan, will get an even tougher assignment next season when they open against the defending national champion Tigers.

Of course, Appalachian State knows plenty about winning national championships. The Mountaineers enter next season as the three-time defending champs in Division I's Football Championship Subdivision.

LSU won the Bowl Championship Series title by beating Ohio State last season. Appalachian State won its record third straight title in what used to be called Division I-AA by beating Delaware.

Appalachian State and LSU were scheduled to play in 2009, but the game was moved up a year to accommodate an opening in the Tigers' schedule. The teams will now not play in 2009.

LSU beat Appalachian State 24-0 during the 2005 season.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/ncaa/02/08/appalachianstate.lsu.ap/index.html?eref=si_ncaaf

[WildCat In The Hat]

http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=27815&SPID=2164&ATCLID=1385619&DB_OEM_ID=5200

Think they can pull it off again?


I love the fact that they are playing...and I hope I am wrong......but Appy loses by 3 TD's.....but I still love the fact hat they are taking on the "other" national champs and I will pull for them to win

[PaladinFan]

I hope it doesn't negate what App did for FCS football in 2007. If they go to Baton Rouge in a highly anticipated event and get punched in the mouth, we'll go back to being the baby brothers again.

[Mountain Panther]

I'll be in Utah watching the other FCS over FBS upset of the day.

[APPALACHIANstate]

I hope it doesn't negate what App did for FCS football in 2007. If they go to Baton Rouge in a highly anticipated event and get punched in the mouth, we'll go back to being the baby brothers again.

To be fair, I think most teams are still baby brothers, even those who have beat FBS teams.

[chantster]

Seen LSU enough last year that I think ASU has a real solid chance to beat them, especially if they play early in the season.

* Won't be intimidated. See last year at the Big House
* Played enough FCS games to know what to expect.
* Speed kills. But ASU can match it.
* LSU has young QB. They will be reloading in skill positions.
* Armanti is back. He is more dangerous in the beginning of the season before wear and tear gets the best of him late in the season.
* Jerry Moore prepares very well for that One Game.

[Eyes of Old Main]

I really hope App can make a game of it. I can't stand LSU and would love to see them get punched in the mouth to open the season.

[Retro]

Yes, While App is beating LSU, Mcneese will be whipping UNC! xlolx

[TexasTerror]

http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=27815&SPID=2164&ATCLID=1385619&DB_OEM_ID=5200

Think they can pull it off again?

Zoo -- how many threads are we going to have on LSU vs AppSt? xconfusedx

[McNeese75]

Zoo -- how many threads are we going to have on LSU vs AppSt? xconfusedx

No joke, like we are not going to hear about this on a daily basis until game day :(

[Reed Rothchild]

I want Appy to do it again!!!

[TexasTerror]

No joke, like we are not going to hear about this on a daily basis until game day :(

What's funny is Zoo posted it like it was the first time we heard it when it had been making the rounds on the site for a good day, if not two...

And yep, we did hear about the Michigan-AppSt game daily until game day and we're still hearing about it! This could be the second coming of that one...

[KiddBrewer]

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/MessageTopic.asp?p=7136004&Pg=4

enjoy folks, this will surely help you understand who LSU fans are.

good thing is, the rest of the nation outside of LA will be on our backs for weeks before this game.

[Zoo]

What's funny is Zoo posted it like it was the first time we heard it when it had been making the rounds on the site for a good day, if not two...

And yep, we did hear about the Michigan-AppSt game daily until game day and we're still hearing about it! This could be the second coming of that one...

Sorry man, I wasn't here very often for the last week or two, family issues have been affecting me pretty bad.

[JohnStOnge]

http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=27815&SPID=2164&ATCLID=1385619&DB_OEM_ID=5200

Think they can pull it off again?

Probably not. Of course it was "probably not" last year prior to the Michigan game too.

An additional factor is the fact that App State did beat Michigan. LSU players are going to hear a lot about App State's big upset, probably to the point of getting sick of hearing it and getting kind of fired up about putting the "little guys" in their place. I think there's probably going to be a lot more intensity on the BCS league team's part this time than there usually is in such matchup.

[JohnStOnge]

Speed kills. But ASU can match it.

Can't prove it and wouldn't be able to unless I could line the players up and have them run against each other...but I doubt it. I doubt that App State will be as fast overall team speed wise as LSU is.


* LSU has young QB. They will be reloading in skill positions.
* Armanti is back.

I think those two things hit on the best things going in App's favor. LSU will go into the 2008 season without a lot of 2007's key players. And a mobile quarterback will help App for obvious reasons.

With the LSU quarterback thing: Perriloux is an extremely talented player. There was a discussion of this before and it was noted that he finished the season with a 175.6 QB rating. He didn't have enough attempts to show in the NCAA ranking but Sam Bradford of Oklahoma led FBS with a 176.5 and Tebow was second at 172.5.

Perriloux's stats have to be viewed in the context of the fact that he only started two games and one of them was Middle Tennessee. However, in the very meaningful setting of the SEC championship game he was 20 of 30 for 243 yards, 1 TD, and 1 Int.

[813Jag]

LSU is gonna be tough offensively. Don't forget that last year was Flynn's first year starting, so you can see what they did with an inexperienced QB. Defensively they lose their coordinator so that'll be an adjustment for them.

[Saint3333]

Yes, While App is beating LSU, Mcneese will be whipping UNC! xlolx

I think the latter statement is more likely to happen. Good luck against UNC-CH.

[udchuck]

http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=27815&SPID=2164&ATCLID=1385619&DB_OEM_ID=5200

Think they can pull it off again?
This will be the Joke game of the Year,App State caught Mich.looking ahead and now think they're Would beaters.
Well,I was wondering if this game was for real,I should guess the line at your friendly gambling casino will be about 30-31 points. It's time too make some easy money.final score----LSU 52 AppState 6xcoffeex xlolx

[PantherRob82]

I'll be in Utah watching the other FCS over FBS upset of the day.

me too!! :D

[PaladinFan]

I'm wondering how the loss of Dexter Jackson will effect the "speed" game. Michigan couldn't cover him, but he's now gone. The two of the three big players from the Michigan game (Jackson and Lynch) have ridden off to seek their fortune.

[APPride]

This will be the Joke game of the Year,App State caught Mich.looking ahead and now think they're Would beaters.
Well,I was wondering if this game was for real,I should guess the line at your friendly gambling casino will be about 30-31 points. It's time too make some easy money.final score----LSU 52 AppState 6xcoffeex xlolx


yeah,yeah,yeah...no one thinks their world beaters, but at least App has earned the right to be taken seriously in this matchup. Don't be so patronizing. xnonox

[Saint3333]

Pay no attention to that bitter Delaware fan.

I'm pulling for GSU over UGA, McNeese over UNC-CH, etc. The more times these "upsets" happen the better it will be for the FCS and recruiting.

[PaladinFan]

Pay no attention to that bitter Delaware fan.

I'm pulling for GSU over UGA, McNeese over UNC-CH, etc. The more times these "upsets" happen the better it will be for the FCS and recruiting.

No offense to my Eagle friends, but GSU doesn't have a snowball's chance of beating UGA. I'd be suprised if they kept it within 30.

[proasu89]

This will be the Joke game of the Year,App State caught Mich.looking ahead and now think they're Would beaters.
Well,I was wondering if this game was for real,I should guess the line at your friendly gambling casino will be about 30-31 points. It's time too make some easy money.final score----LSU 52 AppState 6xcoffeex xlolx

Care to share what the spread would be for your Hens?

[bench]

I think Chuck's UD is the "other" UD. You know, the obscure, irrelevant one whose name I can't recall at the moment

[udchuck]

I think Chuck's UD is the "other" UD. You know, the obscure, irrelevant one whose name I can't recall at the moment

??????????????????????

[APPsolute Champion]

This will be the Joke game of the Year,App State caught Mich.looking ahead and now think they're Would beaters.
Well,I was wondering if this game was for real,I should guess the line at your friendly gambling casino will be about 30-31 points. It's time too make some easy money.final score----LSU 52 AppState 6xcoffeex xlolx



How soon we forget that in 2005 ASU played LSU. LSU won 24-0, but it was 14-0 going into the 4th Q. Although that game was never really in doubt, I believe that this game will be a little closer than 52-6.

[PaladinFan]

How soon we forget that in 2005 ASU played LSU. LSU won 24-0, but it was 14-0 going into the 4th Q. Although that game was never really in doubt, I believe that this game will be a little closer than 52-6.

That was back when they didn't know you existed.

[AlphaSigMD]

Somebody posted this on a LSU board. I guess some of their fans are taking us seriously.






Appy State is better than 50% of D1-A teams. Here is a list of BCS teams they rank higher than in the sagarin:
Louisville
Michigan State
Maryland
Kansas State
Vanderbilt
Washington
Colorado
Purdue
Georgia Tech
Nebraska
Washington State
NC State
North Carolina
Stanford
Pittsburgh
Indiana
Iowa
Ole Miss
Notre Dame
Iowa State
Syracuse
Minnesota

That is 21 schools that the Sagarin computer rankings have Appalachian state higher than.
Just for kicks: Appalachian State is better than:
5 of the teams in the Big 10
3 of the teams in the Big East
3 of the teams in the Big 12
3 of the teams in the Pac 10
2 of the teams in the SEC
4 of the teams in the ACC
than Notre Dame

There's a reason why they beat Michigan folks. Her e is their Sagarin Rank (the only computer ranking system that includes I-AA and I-A for comparison) the last few years:
2007: 44
2006: 53

My point is, if they were in I-A they would have been better than 1/2 of the teams. They are not the normal case for a I-AA team. They ain't Furman.

[MountaineerGuy]

The worst part about this is that for all the disrespect there's nothing we can say with any real merit to hope to silence it...

Those fans who think their team's always got a chance will always seem crazy...until you're sitting in Legends and your ears are ringing and you watch that guy that you see in Wellborn sometimes block a kick to preserve the lead.

I mean seriously? What do we say about the people who said "I think App's got a real chance at Michigan" last year? Obviously it's not the same situation...but if our boys do pull it out what will you say about everyone who's saying now that we have a shot?

Just a thought...

My God...September is so far away.

[AppStsGr8]

In many ways, App sneaked up on an ill-prepared Michigan team. I can only imagine how many times someone will mention that Les Miles is a Michigan man, App beat Michigan, blah, blah, blah.

We won't sneak up on LSU. We'll have to beat them fair and square. Here's to an opening week that sees FCS wallop BCS!

McNeese folks, any idea where we should stay in Baton Rouge?

[813Jag]

In many ways, App sneaked up on an ill-prepared Michigan team. I can only imagine how many times someone will mention that Les Miles is a Michigan man, App beat Michigan, blah, blah, blah.

We won't sneak up on LSU. We'll have to beat them fair and square. Here's to an opening week that sees FCS wallop BCS!

McNeese folks, any idea where we should stay in Baton Rouge?
Typically you'd want to stay in the South Baton Rouge Area (Bluebonnet Rd., Seigen Lane, Essen Lane, Airline Highway). There's access to the mall and resturants in that area. Also if your driving in from New Orleans you get to this area first. The airport is in North Baton Rouge near Southern, there's a Hilton Garden Inn near the airport and you can get to LSU in about 10 minutes on I-10.

You can research hotels at this site (http://www.1stbatonrougehotels.com/).

[SoCon48]

In many ways, App sneaked up on an ill-prepared Michigan team. I can only imagine how many times someone will mention that Les Miles is a Michigan man, App beat Michigan, blah, blah, blah.

We won't sneak up on LSU. We'll have to beat them fair and square. Here's to an opening week that sees FCS wallop BCS!

McNeese folks, any idea where we should stay in Baton Rouge?
In addition, we won't have a replacement for Dexter jackson's speed nor Cory Lynch's savvy.

[Touchdown Yosef]

This will be the Joke game of the Year,App State caught Mich.looking ahead and now think they're Would beaters.
Well,I was wondering if this game was for real,I should guess the line at your friendly gambling casino will be about 30-31 points. It's time too make some easy money.final score----LSU 52 AppState 6xcoffeex xlolx

I would happily put good money on App w/ 31 pts. Come find me a little closer to game day and we'll see what we can work out.

[udchuck]

I would happily put good money on App w/ 31 pts. Come find me a little closer to game day and we'll see what we can work out.

OK----Make it US Dollarsxcoolx xcoffeex

[Touchdown Yosef]

OK----Make it US Dollarsxcoolx xcoffeex

whatever you say. Maybe we can work something out to determine the other's avatar for a month.

[Touchdown Yosef]

Or how about the App LSU game is closer than the App Jacksonville game. It is really just a shame that App and Dayton don't meet, but we all know that won't happen.

[DLS]

OK----Make it US Dollarsxcoolx xcoffeex

i'll do you one better and throw down some euros

[james_lawfirm]

In many ways, App sneaked up on an ill-prepared Michigan team. I can only imagine how many times someone will mention that Les Miles is a Michigan man, App beat Michigan, blah, blah, blah.

We won't sneak up on LSU. We'll have to beat them fair and square. Here's to an opening week that sees FCS wallop BCS!

McNeese folks, any idea where we should stay in Baton Rouge?


Boy, do I disagree that Michigan was ill-prepared. They were most certainly prepared. I heard their coach say on his weekly talk show (before the game) that App was the fastest team he had ever seen. No amount of preparation will help if the other team is simply faster. There was just nothing they could do about it. Mich. lost their 2nd game to Oregon - another fast team.

We did not "sneak up" on Michigan, and we won't be sneaking up on LSU.

Lou Holtz himself said after the Michigan game that "the best team won". Will we be that much faster than LSU too? I sure doubt it. But, it ought to be a great game. ASU's real weakness will be that we simply won't have the depth to last into the 4th quarter with LSU.

[already123]

I can not begin to espress how excited I am for this game! To me, this creates a better opportunity for APP than the Michigan game did

[JohnStOnge]

Boy, do I disagree that Michigan was ill-prepared. They were most certainly prepared. I heard their coach say on his weekly talk show (before the game) that App was the fastest team he had ever seen. No amount of preparation will help if the other team is simply faster. There was just nothing they could do about it. Mich. lost their 2nd game to Oregon - another fast team..

And they beat Florida, which probably has more overall team speed than either.

I've seen that thing posted before about Carr saying App was the fastest team he had ever seen before. If he really said that, I think that was a pretty ridiculous statement.

I think that, in the context of the BCS, App would be an average team in terms of overall team speed. I'm talking about when you look at every position. You're talking about a coach who had his seen his team play Florida and Texas once each as well as Southern Cal twice over the previous five seasons. No way App State was the fastest team he'd ever seen.

And, yes, I did watch a replay of the App State/Michigan game and watched App play two other games on TV.

What happened for you guys was wonderful. It was really good for your school and good for FCS as well. But it was an upset. Michigan had a lot more talent than your team did. If somebody took out a stopwatch and clocked every position...interiror linemen, linebackers, etc. included...my bet would be that they'd find Michigan had more overall team speed than your guys did. Michigan did not prepare for your guys with the intensity with which they would've been preparing for another BCS league team. No way.

Remember, at that point, your two previous national championship teams had played three BCS league teams and lost by 13, 24, and 28 points. And the 13 point loss was to a team that finished 3-9. That's not a bad performance for an FCS team. But at that point it wasn't a record that would make Michigan's players and coaches think they needed to seriously fear losing with a team they thought was going to challenge for the Big 10 title.

[Touchdown Yosef]

OK----Make it US Dollarsxcoolx xcoffeex

OK Chuck, here it is the official challenge.

ASU getting 31 points. I take ASU you take LSU winner gets control of the other's avatar for 4 weeks. So there it is your official challenge to back up your claims of 54-6 or whatever it was.

Now if you would also like to take me up on my other challenge let me know. App beats Jacksonville worse than LSU beats App. I know you can't resist a chance to defend the PFL.

[JohnStOnge]

Boy, do I disagree that Michigan was ill-prepared. They were most certainly prepared. I heard their coach say on his weekly talk show (before the game) that App was the fastest team he had ever seen. No amount of preparation will help if the other team is simply faster. There was just nothing they could do about it. Mich. lost their 2nd game to Oregon - another fast team.

We did not "sneak up" on Michigan, and we won't be sneaking up on LSU.

Lou Holtz himself said after the Michigan game that "the best team won". Will we be that much faster than LSU too? I sure doubt it. But, it ought to be a great game. ASU's real weakness will be that we simply won't have the depth to last into the 4th quarter with LSU.

Considering some of the teams Michigan has played I sincerely doubt that App was the fastest team Carr had ever seen. If he really said that I write it off to coachspeak...trying to make people look at the upcoming opponent as a threat. I doubt App even had the most overall team speed Michigan was going to see that season. I also doubt that Michigan's players and coaches approached preparations with the kind of intensity they'd have had in preparing for a team they really thought had a chance to beat them.

I can pretty much guarantee you that few if any of their players thought going in that there was any way Appalachian State could win the game. They were thinking "rent a win."

[AshevilleApp2]

Considering some of the teams Michigan has played I sincerely doubt that App was the fastest team Carr had ever seen. If he really said that I write it off to coachspeak...trying to make people look at the upcoming opponent as a threat. I doubt App even had the most overall team speed Michigan was going to see that season. I also doubt that Michigan's players and coaches approached preparations with the kind of intensity they'd have had in preparing for a team they really thought had a chance to beat them.

I can pretty much guarantee you that few if any of their players thought going in that there was any way Appalachian State could win the game. They were thinking "rent a win."

I can't speak for the players or coaches, but the Michigan fans definitely overlooked us. I don't expect that LSU will.

[Appguy]

My God...September is so far away.

only august this time!
8/30

also....


it's def. possible Les Miles will try to run up the score on us with him being a Michigan man at heart.

[LehighFan11]

I'm not so sure i agree with the people saying LSU is not Michigan. LSU next year is going to be much weaker than they were this year. They weren't even that great last year, still lost 2 games. They will be without Flynn, Doucet, Dorsey, and Stelz to just name a few. Perrelouix is very promising but is still raw as a passer. They don't have a great RB like Michigan had with Hart. The one difference I see is that LSU's defense will be much faster than Michigan's defense was. The home run for App may not be there but they will still be able to work their 5 WR offense.

[813Jag]

I'm not so sure i agree with the people saying LSU is not Michigan. LSU next year is going to be much weaker than they were this year. They weren't even that great last year, still lost 2 games. They will be without Flynn, Doucet, Dorsey, and Stelz to just name a few. Perrelouix is very promising but is still raw as a passer. They don't have a great RB like Michigan had with Hart. The one difference I see is that LSU's defense will be much faster than Michigan's defense was. The home run for App may not be there but they will still be able to work their 5 WR offense.
Early Doucet was hurt most of the season, Flynn was only a one year starter so going into the season there's not much difference between the two QBs. Losing 2 games both in triple overtime with a chance to win at the end, indicates that that was a very good team. LSU may not a back like Hart but they have at least 3 people who can hit for big gains.

[udchuck]

OK Chuck, here it is the official challenge.

ASU getting 31 points. I take ASU you take LSU winner gets control of the other's avatar for 4 weeks. So there it is your official challenge to back up your claims of 54-6 or whatever it was.

Now if you would also like to take me up on my other challenge let me know. App beats Jacksonville worse than LSU beats App. I know you can't resist a chance to defend the PFL.

xlolx Hey Dude,I was born at night but it wasn't last night.Last year, Dayton beat Jacksonville 49-3 The game was over by the Halftime.Most starters were on the bench the third Quarter.--I will repeat my statement,LSU will beat App State by 31 or better ( Unless the bench plays the 2nd half ) xbowx xcoffeex BTW, Why is a Scolly team playing a NON Scolly team in the first place ???????? I'm talking about App State playing Jacksonville .

[lizrdgizrd]

xlolx Hey Dude,I was born at night but it wasn't last night.Last year, Dayton beat Jacksonville 49-3 The game was over by the Halftime.Most starters were on the bench the third Quarter.--I will repeat my statement,LSU will beat App State by 31 or better ( Unless the bench plays the 2nd half ) xbowx xcoffeex
Does that mean you'll take his bet? Avatar control for 4 weeks and you're taking LSU and giving 31. Sound right to you?

[udchuck]

OK Chuck, here it is the official challenge.

ASU getting 31 points. I take ASU you take LSU winner gets control of the other's avatar for 4 weeks. So there it is your official challenge to back up your claims of 54-6 or whatever it was.

Now if you would also like to take me up on my other challenge let me know. App beats Jacksonville worse than LSU beats App. I know you can't resist a chance to defend the PFL.

I really don't think the PFL league needs defending. It's a NON Scolly league period.It's not designed to play the likes of Mich,OSU, and yes ASU. The players there are more for the education. IMHO xthumbsupx

[bench]

I really don't think the PFL league needs defending. It's a NON Scolly league period.It's not designed to play the likes of Mich,OSU, and yes ASU. The players there are more for the education. IMHO xthumbsupx

That's nice, but you didn't answer his question

[Touchdown Yosef]

xlolx Hey Dude,I was born at night but it wasn't last night.Last year, Dayton beat Jacksonville 49-3 The game was over by the Halftime.Most starters were on the bench the third Quarter.--I will repeat my statement,LSU will beat App State by 31 or better ( Unless the bench plays the 2nd half ) xbowx xcoffeex BTW, Why is a Scolly team playing a NON Scolly team in the first place ???????? I'm talking about App State playing Jacksonville .

So I am still trying to figure out if this is a bet or not, just let me know?

I'm not sure, why do we get to hear why non-scolly teams should be included in the playoffs every year? Congrats to Jacksonville for stepping up their OOC schedule. Perhaps if Dayton had done the same last year you could have proven your greatness on the field. But they would have had to beat their D-II oponent as well.

[biggie]

Definately looking forward to it. Hoping we can get tickets and that the App alotment doesn't sell out too quickly.

And think it will come down to how much LSU has to 'reload'. I think App is pretty set except for DBs, we'll just see how that works out. But I have no clue what kind of team LSU will have at this point.

[AshevilleApp2]

Just booked my room. Now to find tickets.

[813Jag]

I'm might try to make it back to the old stomping grounds for this one.

[udchuck]

So I am still trying to figure out if this is a bet or not, just let me know?

I'm not sure, why do we get to hear why non-scolly teams should be included in the playoffs every year? Congrats to Jacksonville for stepping up their OOC schedule. Perhaps if Dayton had done the same last year you could have proven your greatness on the field. But they would have had to beat their D-II oponent as well.

Do your homework,Check out the Gridiron classic.UD 42-UAlbany 21,I may be wrong but I think UAlbany is a D1 Scolly team.xwhistlex Don't try to downgrade Dayton,It just won't work.The playoff crap is just another story I just don't want to get into.My time is limited.xnonox

[lizrdgizrd]

Do your homework,Check out the Gridiron classic.UD 42-UAlbany 21,I may be wrong but I think UAlbany is a D1 Scolly team.xwhistlex Don't try to downgrade Dayton,It just won't work.The playoff crap is just another story I just don't want to get into.My time is limited.xnonox

So are you taking the bet or not? xeyebrowx

[Touchdown Yosef]

Do your homework,Check out the Gridiron classic.UD 42-UAlbany 21,I may be wrong but I think UAlbany is a D1 Scolly team.xwhistlex Don't try to downgrade Dayton,It just won't work.The playoff crap is just another story I just don't want to get into.My time is limited.xnonox

Which is all well and good but you asked why are we playing a non-scholly team. Why are you playing a scholly team. I am not knocking Dayton but if you are suggesting that we shouldn't play a non-scholly team then you shouldn't be taking on a scholly program. Congratulations on beating Albany. I don't really want to get into the playoff argument either, its beating a dead horse that has already been decided. I was simply commending Jacksonville on finding a top notch OOC oponent to gage their program against. I think any team not in a major FCS conference with playoff aspirations should make every effort to play an App, Delaware, Montanna, JMU, UMass, Furman, G. South, ect in a good year. My only question that remains is are you willing to back up you claims of such a large LSU victory? So instead of side stepping the question for a third time is this a bet or not?

[DLS]

udchuck is chicken.

pun appsolutely intended.

[udchuck]

So are you taking the bet or not? xeyebrowx

Hey Lizard,How did you get in this bet ? Go sell your insurance.xlolx You can believe me when this game is played I will have a few dollars on LSU.Like I said in my first statement, easy money to be made.xthumbsupx

[APPride]

udchuck is chicken.

pun appsolutely intended.

suggested avatar name 4 the 4 weeks:

" UDCLUCK " :D xrotatehx

[udchuck]

suggested avatar name 4 the 4 weeks:

" UDCLUCK " :D xrotatehx

Act your age,----or are you ??xrolleyesx Is that what they teach at App State ??

[Touchdown Yosef]

Act your age,----or are you ??xrolleyesx Is that what they teach at App State ??

Yes, i was waiting for this to turn personal and I knew that it would. Thanks chuck for taking it there...again. Is it commonplace to come off as an elitist in your insults if you went to Dayton?

Do we have a bet or not?

[APPride]

Act your age,----or are you ??xrolleyesx Is that what they teach at App State ??

naw...give me some credit, I learned that in the 2nd grade...:)

[udchuck]

Yes, i was waiting for this to turn personal and I knew that it would. Thanks chuck for taking it there...again. Is it commonplace to come off as an elitist in your insults if you went to Dayton?

Do we have a bet or not?

The statement was not meant for you,Touchdown Yosef. The last few posters made it personal. This will be my Last post.--Reread the the last few posts,you will see I did not take it there. xthumbsupx

[Appinator]

The statement was not meant for you,Touchdown Yosef. The last few posters made it personal. This will be my Last post.--Reread the the last few posts,you will see I did not take it there. xthumbsupx

I guess he's not taking the bet, it would be nice if he would back up all the talk....xcoffeex

[putter]

In many ways, App sneaked up on an ill-prepared Michigan team. I can only imagine how many times someone will mention that Les Miles is a Michigan man, App beat Michigan, blah, blah, blah.

We won't sneak up on LSU. We'll have to beat them fair and square. Here's to an opening week that sees FCS wallop BCS!

McNeese folks, any idea where we should stay in Baton Rouge?

My question is: How long do you give a team to be "snuck up on?" Maybe the 1st half they overlooked App but by the 3rd quarter that had to wear off. You beat a Michigan team that was ready to go by the second half and you can do it against LSU because there is not way that some on the LSU team will not blow off last year.

[Mountaineer]

Do we have a bet or not?

He must be in public office. He's dodgin' and won't man up and take the
bet. xlolx xthumbsupx
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3021/dodgeballclipimage00200hr4.jpg

[fjblair]

<<The statement was not meant for you,Touchdown Yosef. The last few posters made it personal. This will be my Last post.--Reread the the last few posts,you will see I did not take it there.<<


This will be the Joke game of the Year,App State caught Mich.looking ahead and now think they're Would beaters.
Well,I was wondering if this game was for real,I should guess the line at your friendly gambling casino will be about 30-31 points. It's time too make some easy money.final score----LSU 52 AppState 6xcoffeex xlolx


I would say the above is could be considered "personal". For sure it is inflammatory. And then you dodge the bet. Classy.

[GAD]

Typically you'd want to stay in the South Baton Rouge Area (Bluebonnet Rd., Seigen Lane, Essen Lane, Airline Highway). There's access to the mall and resturants in that area. Also if your driving in from New Orleans you get to this area first. The airport is in North Baton Rouge near Southern, there's a Hilton Garden Inn near the airport and you can get to LSU in about 10 minutes on I-10.

You can research hotels at this site (http://www.1stbatonrougehotels.com/).
Or you Port Allen just across the river would be a good spot and you are only about 10 or 15 minutes from the stadium, cross the bridge take the Nicholson exit and you are there

[udchuck]

I guess he's not taking the bet, it would be nice if he would back up all the talk....xcoffeex

Hey Appy,When the time comes, I WILL BACK UP MY ALL MY TALK.and you can take that to the Bank.xthumbsupx

[Touchdown Yosef]

The statement was not meant for you,Touchdown Yosef. The last few posters made it personal. This will be my Last post.--Reread the the last few posts,you will see I did not take it there. xthumbsupx

No I believe they were only speculating on a picture for your avatar or simply hoping you would give an answer to my challenge, that only came in response to your numerous claims of the certain Appalachian humiliation. No one made a direct remark about your profession, level of education, maturity, or alma mater. I figured that would be your last post and will take it as a resounding no that you are not willing to back up your claims. I simply suggested a friendly wager very similar to one person wearign the other team's jersey if they lost. I think I speak for most of the ASU posters here when we say please just stay away from all threads concerning ASU. It is a waste of our time to read your posts in them and a waste of your time if you will not back up your claims. Good luck this year in football and may our two prestigous universities meet one day on the field.

[Appinator]

Hey Appy,When the time comes, I WILL BACK UP MY ALL MY TALK.and you can take that to the Bank.xthumbsupx

SO, another non-answer in a post. When will that backing up be coming again?

The man has a bet on the table that you called out for, I believe it is your time to step up or walk away because you know you're wrong.

[Touchdown Yosef]

SO, another non-answer in a post. When will that backing up be coming again?

The man has a bet on the table that you called out for, I believe it is your time to step up or walk away because you know you're wrong.

He has walked away, let us all just leave it at that.

[lizrdgizrd]

Hey Appy,When the time comes, I WILL BACK UP MY ALL MY TALK.and you can take that to the Bank.xthumbsupx
The time is now, chuck. Either take the bet (which is a simple, friendly wager) or admit you were just talking trash.

[lizrdgizrd]

Hey Lizard,How did you get in this bet ? Go sell your insurance.xlolx You can believe me when this game is played I will have a few dollars on LSU.Like I said in my first statement, easy money to be made.xthumbsupx
I'm not in this bet but so far neither are you.

[Touchdown Yosef]

I'm not in this bet but so far neither are you.

hahaha, rep pts.

[Appinator]

I'm not sure what is running more on this thread: udchuck's feet from this bet, or his mouth.

[udchuck]

He has walked away, let us all just leave it at that.

No, I did not walk away .You got a bet . Just let me know what it is.Hopefully when the game is played we can make a Monetary bet at the same time.xsmiley_wix

[udchuck]

I'm not sure what is running more on this thread: udchuck's feet from this bet, or his mouth.

Hey,APPY, I don't run. It seems to me your running your mouth more than anyone.

[proasu89]

udchuck is chicken.

pun appsolutely intended.

So are you calling them the Dayton Fryersxsmiley_wix

I too thought that Chuck was from DE.

[udchuck]

So are you calling them the Dayton Fryersxsmiley_wix

I too thought that Chuck was from DE.

I AM.Everyone is assuming Dayton, I have a tendency to let people run their mouth.

[Touchdown Yosef]

No, I did not walk away .You got a bet . Just let me know what it is.Hopefully when the game is played we can make a Monetary bet at the same time.xsmiley_wix

Wow that certainly took a while. I don't think at this point the bet could be any clearer but here it is... again.

Appalachian getting 31 points against LSU. I obviously will take App you take LSU. Winner controls the other's avatar for 4 weeks. Any picture they want.

I don't know about a monetary wager, I don't know about the logistics or legality of it and I don't think AGS would be all to happy about it. I know that if I lost I would be more than happy to mail you a check but I don't know you. That being said I think we can stick to the avatar, but we'll see what we can work out.

just out of curiosity what happened to "this is my last post"

I'll take an aggreement post quoting this one as a handshake, and I am sure we will have plenty of witnesses. So once again Do we have a bet?

[proasu89]

xlolx Hey Dude,I was born at night but it wasn't last night.Last year, Dayton beat Jacksonville 49-3 The game was over by the Halftime.Most starters were on the bench the third Quarter.--I will repeat my statement,LSU will beat App State by 31 or better ( Unless the bench plays the 2nd half ) xbowx xcoffeex BTW, Why is a Scolly team playing a NON Scolly team in the first place ???????? I'm talking about App State playing Jacksonville .

What's the problem with Jville stepping up. Gain some respect, experience, and money.

[proasu89]

I AM.Everyone is assuming Dayton, I have a tendency to let people run their mouth.

xthumbsupx

[udchuck]

[/SIZE]

What's the problem with Jville stepping up. Gain some respect, experience, and money.

Not a Thing wrong with it.

[udchuck]

Wow that certainly took a while. I don't think at this point the bet could be any clearer but here it is... again.

Appalachian getting 31 points against LSU. I obviously will take App you take LSU. Winner controls the other's avatar for 4 weeks. Any picture they want.

I don't know about a monetary wager, I don't know about the logistics or legality of it and I don't think AGS would be all to happy about it. I know that if I lost I would be more than happy to mail you a check but I don't know you. That being said I think we can stick to the avatar, but we'll see what we can work out.

just out of curiosity what happened to "this is my last post"

I'll take an aggreement post quoting this one as a handshake, and I am sure we will have plenty of witnesses. So once again Do we have a bet?
Yes we have a Bet, Now I have to save all this crap so I will remember. (Last post remark ??)
When that Big mouth APPY Character got personal I decided to stick around.
BTW, After I beat your butt,you will have to tell me how I can control your avatar.Don't worry about the Monetary bet I'll bet it legally.( And maybe save some points )Just in case APPY gets lucky and scores more than 13.Final Score LSU 52 APPY 13

[jonmac]

The statement was not meant for you,Touchdown Yosef. The last few posters made it personal. This will be my Last post.--Reread the the last few posts,you will see I did not take it there. xthumbsupx

you fibbedxsmhx But I'm glad you took the bet.

[Appinator]

Yes we have a Bet, Now I have to save all this crap so I will remember. (Last post remark ??)
When that Big mouth APPY Character got personal I decided to stick around.
BTW, After I beat your butt,you will have to tell me how I can control your avatar.Don't worry about the Monetary bet I'll bet it legally.( And maybe save some points )Just in case APPY gets lucky and scores more than 13.Final Score LSU 52 APPY 13

Oh how easily the sheep are lead off the cliff....xlolx xlolx

[udchuck]

you fibbedxsmhx But I'm glad you took the bet.

Fibbed ?????????????????xnonox

[udchuck]

Oh how easily the sheep are lead off the cliff....xlolx xlolx

APPY, explain yourself

[Appinator]

APPY, explain yourself

It was just too easy to push you into the bet. We pretty much "tripple dog dared you" Christmas Story style into it.xlolx

[udchuck]

It was just too easy to push you into the bet. We pretty much "tripple dog dared you" Christmas Story style into it.xlolx

That's OK ,Appy,I'll have the last laugh when LSU kicks your butt. xlolx xthumbsupx

[SoCon48]

Yes we have a Bet, Now I have to save all this crap so I will remember. (Last post remark ??)
When that Big mouth APPY Character got personal I decided to stick around.
BTW, After I beat your butt,you will have to tell me how I can control your avatar.Don't worry about the Monetary bet I'll bet it legally.( And maybe save some points )Just in case APPY gets lucky and scores more than 13.Final Score LSU 52 APPY 13

Too bad Delaware doesn't have the opportunity to play an LSU or Michigan. Guess that's why they have a blue chicken for a mascot.

[Appinator]

That's OK ,Appy,I'll have the last laugh when LSU kicks your butt. xlolx xthumbsupx

Utterly asininexcoffeex .....

Any way back to the LSU discussion:

I think Perrilloux is the key to this game, he's a great mobile talent, and thats what burned us last year. Collier and Foster lit us up, but our front 7 are all returning starters, with a lot of added depth at D-line (the one position I actually think we have enough depth at to hang with them). Anyone know any in-depth info about their WRs?

[Touchdown Yosef]

I AM.Everyone is assuming Dayton, I have a tendency to let people run their mouth.

Ok, you are unbelievable! Now you are stating that you are in fact from The University of Delaware? Who do you think you are, Jackie Chan from rush hour? "you assume i do not speak english" I think everyone here has very good reasons to "assume" you are from dayton. Every one of your posts is about one of two things. You are either talking about Dayton football and the pfl or you are ranting about Appalachian State.

Why now would you lie to everyone and say you are in fact from delaware? (not that i expect a straight answer on this)

Now lets see, you started the thread about Dayton's coach stepping down.
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?p=840574#post840574


now in this post...
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?p=766189#post766189
you refer to dayton with possessive pronouns.

and then of course there is my favorite
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?p=814317#post814317


Now, did you just want everyone to assume you went to, as you seem to imply, the academically superior institution that is Dayton? I for one am quite confused by your antics. Anyone else?

[Touchdown Yosef]

Yes we have a Bet, Now I have to save all this crap so I will remember. (Last post remark ??)
When that Big mouth APPY Character got personal I decided to stick around.
BTW, After I beat your butt,you will have to tell me how I can control your avatar.Don't worry about the Monetary bet I'll bet it legally.( And maybe save some points )Just in case APPY gets lucky and scores more than 13.Final Score LSU 52 APPY 13

Thats good I am glad you did decide to stick around. As far as control of the avatar goes, it will have to be a gentleman's agreement to change it to what the other decides.

You may not get 31 points from Vegas on the line but I could be wrong. Last year of course they did not make a line on the ASU Michigan game. I look forward to the season that much more now.

[McNeese75]

Yes we have a Bet, Now I have to save all this crap so I will remember. (Last post remark ??)
When that Big mouth APPY Character got personal I decided to stick around.
BTW, After I beat your butt,you will have to tell me how I can control your avatar.Don't worry about the Monetary bet I'll bet it legally.( And maybe save some points )Just in case APPY gets lucky and scores more than 13.Final Score LSU 52 APPY 13

xlolx LSU will win this one but they will NOT put 52 on ASU.

[udchuck]

Ok, you are unbelievable! Now you are stating that you are in fact from The University of Delaware? Who do you think you are, Jackie Chan from rush hour? "you assume i do not speak english" I think everyone here has very good reasons to "assume" you are from dayton. Every one of your posts is about one of two things. You are either talking about Dayton football and the pfl or you are ranting about Appalachian State.

Why now would you lie to everyone and say you are in fact from delaware? (not that i expect a straight answer on this)

Now lets see, you started the thread about Dayton's coach stepping down.
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?p=840574#post840574


now in this post...
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?p=766189#post766189
you refer to dayton with possessive pronouns.

and then of course there is my favorite
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?p=814317#post814317


Now, did you just want everyone to assume you went to, as you seem to imply, the academically superior institution that is Dayton? I for one am quite confused by your antics. Anyone else?

xlolx xconfusedx To be honest I went to neither one.

[udchuck]

Ok, you are unbelievable! Now you are stating that you are in fact from The University of Delaware? Who do you think you are, Jackie Chan from rush hour? "you assume i do not speak english" I think everyone here has very good reasons to "assume" you are from dayton. Every one of your posts is about one of two things. You are either talking about Dayton football and the pfl or you are ranting about Appalachian State.

Why now would you lie to everyone and say you are in fact from delaware? (not that i expect a straight answer on this)

Now lets see, you started the thread about Dayton's coach stepping down.
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?p=840574#post840574


now in this post...
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?p=766189#post766189
you refer to dayton with possessive pronouns.

and then of course there is my favorite
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?p=814317#post814317


Now, did you just want everyone to assume you went to, as you seem to imply, the academically superior institution that is Dayton? I for one am quite confused by your antics. Anyone else?

xlolx Wow, It sure took you long enough to figure that out.with all the posting I've done.--To be honest I went to neither one.I just happen to know someone who goes there. From what I've heard it is an academically superior institution.-- Back to me,someone put that Delaware tag on me so played his game.( Just having a little fun with you guys ) -xlolx I guess I got under your skin after all. Got to go now,back to work.

[Big Bubba App fan]

ahhh...don;t argue with that guy...your all above that...now to the game...win...maybe...keep it close...very good possibility...either way...unless Armanti gets hurt in the game...it is a win win situation...in dollars and in lessons learned

[813Jag]

Utterly asininexcoffeex .....

Any way back to the LSU discussion:

I think Perrilloux is the key to this game, he's a great mobile talent, and thats what burned us last year. Collier and Foster lit us up, but our front 7 are all returning starters, with a lot of added depth at D-line (the one position I actually think we have enough depth at to hang with them). Anyone know any in-depth info about their WRs?
LaFell and Byrd are back they got lots of attention with Doucet missing time. LaFell lead the team in yards and only had 7 less catches than Doucet. Byrd led the team in TDs. LaFell did drop some big passes last year. Dickson the tight end also returns. I think alot of people will see Perrilloux's arm strength, that's what made him such a highly sought after recruit.

Also their running game will still be formitable even after losing Hester. Williams and Scott and go for big gains. Holliday is a speedster that can take it to the house.

[Touchdown Yosef]

LaFell and Byrd are back they got lots of attention with Doucet missing time. LaFell lead the team in yards and only had 7 less catches than Doucet. Byrd led the team in TDs. LaFell did drop some big passes last year. Dickson the tight end also returns. I think alot of people will see Perrilloux's arm strength, that's what made him such a highly sought after recruit.

Also their running game will still be formitable even after losing Hester. Williams and Scott and go for big gains. Holliday is a speedster that can take it to the house.

Good info, I would assume that because they are LSU every one of their backups is loaded with raw talent.

[813Jag]

Good info, I would assume that because they are LSU every one of their backups is loaded with raw talent.
Alot of people assumed the Doucet was the man all year, but he missed time and that allowed Byrd (who caught some big TDs) and LaFell to step up. But LSU did catch a break on Defense as their defensive end Pittman recieved another year (http://www.2theadvocate.com/sports/lsu/featured/15536732.html) from the NCAA.

But I write all this to say I'm really pulling against LSU as I always do, especially being from Baton Rouge.

[08Dawg]

While I think ASU could play a close game, in reality I think LSU is going to blow them out. I know it's the usual SEC-Big 10 argument, but LSU is a different team entirely from Michigan, and this time, LSU will be on their toes, not wanting to suffer the same kind of upset. Best of luck to the Yosefs, but it ain't happening this time! I've got to give them mad props for the way they beat Michigan, but LSU is an SEC team. They won't go down versus App.

[AshevilleApp2]

I won't be going to the game with any illusions of winning. (Of course, I didn't go to Ann Arbor with any illusions of winning either.)

I'm hoping the team stays healthy for the real schedule. We've got another tough non-conference road game three weeks later, and the SoCon after that. Not an easy season. Bring it on.

[appfan2008]

no silly illusions from me either... i am just hoping for national television to bring more notice to this great program

[SoCon48]

I won't be going to the game with any illusions of winning. (Of course, I didn't go to Ann Arbor with any illusions of winning either.)

I'm hoping the team stays healthy for the real schedule. We've got another tough non-conference road game three weeks later, and the SoCon after that. Not an easy season. Bring it on.

EXACTLY!

[LehighFan11]

While I think ASU could play a close game, in reality I think LSU is going to blow them out. I know it's the usual SEC-Big 10 argument, but LSU is a different team entirely from Michigan, and this time, LSU will be on their toes, not wanting to suffer the same kind of upset. Best of luck to the Yosefs, but it ain't happening this time! I've got to give them mad props for the way they beat Michigan, but LSU is an SEC team. They won't go down versus App.

I don't know, App isn't even playing the best team in the SEC. Florida and Georgia are defiantly a better team than LSU this year. I don't really think it will matter if LSU is overlooking App or not. I doubt Michigan was. I think App's chances simply come down to themselves. If they can replace their key losses and if they can score on offense, they will be in this game until the end.

[AshevilleApp2]

I don't know, App isn't even playing the best team in the SEC. Florida and Georgia are defiantly a better team than LSU this year. I don't really think it will matter if LSU is overlooking App or not. I doubt Michigan was. I think App's chances simply come down to themselves. If they can replace their key losses and if they can score on offense, they will be in this game until the end.

I hope you're right. Either way, it should be a great experience being at Tiger Stadium for a night game.

[WVAPPmountaineer]

Hey TD Yosef - is this a real billboard? ---




Armanti Edwards for the 2008 Heisman

[LehighFan11]

Hey TD Yosef - is this a real billboard? ---

I think so. I don't live down there but i saw the same picture of Armanti's facebook lol.

[McNeese75]

LaFell and Byrd are back they got lots of attention with Doucet missing time. LaFell lead the team in yards and only had 7 less catches than Doucet. Byrd led the team in TDs. LaFell did drop some big passes last year. Dickson the tight end also returns. I think alot of people will see Perrilloux's arm strength, that's what made him such a highly sought after recruit.

Also their running game will still be formitable even after losing Hester. Williams and Scott and go for big gains. Holliday is a speedster that can take it to the house.

What do Billy Graham and Brandon Lafell have in common???







They are the only two men I know that can make 92,000 people jump to their feet and scream "JESUS CHRIST"!!!!!!! :D xpeacex

[AshevilleApp2]

What do Billy Graham and Brandon Lafell have in common???







They are the only two men I know that can make 92,000 people jump to their feet and scream "JESUS CHRIST"!!!!!!! :D xpeacex

xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

[Touchdown Yosef]

Hey TD Yosef - is this a real billboard? ---

As far as I know it is a photo shop deal. It would be great if that was on display accross the carolinas but as far as I know its not. Someone did a great job with it though, and I took the liberty of putting it in my sig.

[neersnbeers]

I'm just glad to have the opportunity to go to a game in tha Bayou. My old man and I can't wait!

[thmst30]

Yea that billboard is completely fake, unfortunately. Great job though by whoever did it.

[Touchdown Yosef]

Sportscenter talked about the game today and 70&#37; of people said we had no chance.

[AshevilleApp2]

Sportscenter talked about the game today and 70% of people said we had no chance.

I saw that this morning. I'm surprised the number was that low.

[Touchdown Yosef]

I saw that this morning. I'm surprised the number was that low.

Good to see us still being mentioned on ESPN in the offseason. Publicity can't hurt.

[AppMan]

As far as I know it is a photo shop deal. It would be great if that was on display accross the carolinas but as far as I know its not. Someone did a great job with it though, and I took the liberty of putting it in my sig.

What's up with the colors?? Looks like they think Armanti suits up for the tar holes. Must have a hard time believing anybody around here even mentioned for the Heisman couldn't play for anyone else but unc-ch.

[AppMan]

Sportscenter talked about the game today and 70% of people said we had no chance.

More than that said the same thing about the Michigan game.

[Touchdown Yosef]

What's up with the colors?? Looks like they think Armanti suits up for the tar holes. Must have a hard time believing anybody around here even mentioned for the Heisman couldn't play for anyone else but unc-ch.

There was a thread on the UNC boards last year after the richmond game that was titled "how did we miss Armanti Edwards" People were crying left and right about how they should have made him an offer. They didn't recruit him simply b/c of his size. I was loving it. I would imagine they will be saying the same thing about DJ Smith this year, but he wouldn't have gone there anyway.

[AshevilleApp2]

Good to see us still being mentioned on ESPN in the offseason. Publicity can't hurt.

Agreed.

[biggie]

Hope to catch the spot on SC, anyone have a link for it yet? If not hope its repeated soon.

Still excited since I missed the trip to Mich, definitely looking forward to going down to LA (except for the 14 hr drive).

[appmountaineer]

I'm also am excited to have a chance to go the game. Hopefully enough student tickets will be allotted and my friends and i will be able to go. Otherwise i'll be stuck getting them on ebay.

[Franks Tanks]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/stewart_mandel/02/12/lsu.appstate/1.html

Nice article about LSU-App match up by Stuart Mandell on cnnsi.com. Among other things he says that this is the most anticipated game of the 1st week of the 2008 season, that ESPN will mosty likley televise the game primetime, and the LSU AD said that App is more talented that 3/4 of the BCS schools out there--some nice compliments!

[Mountaineer]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/stewart_mandel/02/12/lsu.appstate/1.html

Nice article about LSU-App match up by Stuart Mandell on cnnsi.com.

Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen it. xnodx xbowx

It gave me the warm fuzzies. xthumbsupx

[PantherRob82]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/stewart_mandel/02/12/lsu.appstate/1.html

Nice article about LSU-App match up by Stuart Mandell on cnnsi.com. Among other things he says that this is the most anticipated game of the 1st week of the 2008 season, that ESPN will mosty likley televise the game primetime, and the LSU AD said that App is more talented that 3/4 of the BCS schools out there--some nice compliments!

More talented than 3/4's of the BCS schools? xliarx

App State could beat a majority of the BCS schools on any day, but not because they have more talent than all of them.

[Franks Tanks]

More talented than 3/4's of the BCS schools? xliarx

App State could beat a majority of the BCS schools on any day, but not because they have more talent than all of them.

I'm just relaying the message

"But it was getting to the last minute. We were fortunate to get a program better than three-fourths of the BCS teams in the country. Nobody's jumping on the bandwagon to play them."

Here is the actual quote, perhaps he didnt say most talented

[bench]

Most of their fans are expecting a blowout, and anything less to them will be a disappointment. I don't think they realize that our players and coaches are good enough that with six and a half months to gameplan for a single opponent, a squash just isn't in the cards. I'm sure ASU's staff has already started in earnest. Do you really think LSU's staff is gearing up for us as opposed to Alabama, Auburn and Florida?

[AshevilleApp2]

I'm also am excited to have a chance to go the game. Hopefully enough student tickets will be allotted and my friends and i will be able to go. Otherwise i'll be stuck getting them on ebay.

You may not need ebay, although you may get them cheaper there. Last year I got my ticket through the Michigan AD web-site. I checked the LSU web-site and single game tickets haven't gone on sale yet.

[AshevilleApp2]

Hope to catch the spot on SC, anyone have a link for it yet? If not hope its repeated soon.

Still excited since I missed the trip to Mich, definitely looking forward to going down to LA (except for the 14 hr drive).

Yeah, it is a haul getting there. I'm going to take some vacation time and turn it into a blues (Memphis and Clarksdale), gambling (Vicksburg), history (Vicksburg) and football vacation. xnodx

[bench]

You may not need ebay, although you may get them cheaper there. Last year I got my ticket through the Michigan AD web-site. I checked the LSU web-site and single game tickets haven't gone on sale yet.

To hear their fans talk, they're so pissed to even be playing us that they're not gonna go. Scooping up tickets on gameday might not be a bad idea.

[AshevilleApp2]

To hear their fans talk, they're so pissed to even be playing us that they're not gonna go. Scooping up tickets on gameday might not be a bad idea.

Good thought. And cheaper than any of the other options.

[813Jag]

Yeah, it is a haul getting there. I'm going to take some vacation time and turn it into a blues (Memphis and Clarksdale), gambling (Vicksburg), history (Vicksburg) and football vacation. xnodx
If you haven' visited Baton Rouge, you can save your money in Mississippi and gamble there.

[813Jag]

To hear their fans talk, they're so pissed to even be playing us that they're not gonna go. Scooping up tickets on gameday might not be a bad idea.
Getting tickets at the stadium are always easy to get.

[lizrdgizrd]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/stewart_mandel/02/12/lsu.appstate/1.html

Nice article about LSU-App match up by Stuart Mandell on cnnsi.com. Among other things he says that this is the most anticipated game of the 1st week of the 2008 season, that ESPN will mosty likley televise the game primetime, and the LSU AD said that App is more talented that 3/4 of the BCS schools out there--some nice compliments!
Nice find, FT!

[bench]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/stewart_mandel/02/12/lsu.appstate/1.html

Nice article about LSU-App match up by Stuart Mandell on cnnsi.com. Among other things he says that this is the most anticipated game of the 1st week of the 2008 season, that ESPN will mosty likley televise the game primetime, and the LSU AD said that App is more talented that 3/4 of the BCS schools out there--some nice compliments!

One thing we can't complain about is lack of recognition from SI, and Stewart Mandel specifically. He's been hugging our nutsack - in a good way, mind! - since the Michigan game.

[Appaholic]

Yeah....I've noticed that not only are they offended by playing App St....alot of their fans are a$$ clowns on their message board......I'll look forward to drinking them under the table at their tailgate and hopefully leaving the he!l hole that is Baton Rouge with a victory.....

[ERASU2113]

One of my best friends turns 21 on the 29th. He asked for his b-day for some tickets to the game :D.

I'm going to Baton Rouge!

[OLDMAIN80]

Great helment schedule for those FCS teams playing and SEC opponent this year.

http://crimsonaudio.net/media/2008_SEC_Helmet_Schedule_updated.pdf

[udchuck]

Senior Matt Champa and junior Kalen Hemmelgarn were both honored on Jan. 5 as 2007 Sports Network All-Americans in the Football Championship Subdivision. Champa garnered first-team honors, while Hemmelgarn received honorable mention status as one of the few juniors on the squad.

Appalachian State had a record 11 selections to the senior dominated team - which included 19 juniors, nine sophomores and one freshman.xthumbsupx But your Team will not beat LSU--LOL

[813Jag]

Yeah....I've noticed that not only are they offended by playing App St....alot of their fans are a$$ clowns on their message board......I'll look forward to drinking them under the table at their tailgate and hopefully leaving the he!l hole that is Baton Rouge with a victory.....
don't talk about my home like that. xlolx

If you're going to drink those guys under the table you better come ready, those country folks that tailgate are drinking machienes.

[AshevilleApp2]

Senior Matt Champa and junior Kalen Hemmelgarn were both honored on Jan. 5 as 2007 Sports Network All-Americans in the Football Championship Subdivision. Champa garnered first-team honors, while Hemmelgarn received honorable mention status as one of the few juniors on the squad.

Appalachian State had a record 11 selections to the senior dominated team - which included 19 juniors, nine sophomores and one freshman.xthumbsupx But your Team will not beat LSU--LOL

No expectation of winning. But I plan on having a great time.

[LacesOut]

Jesus H Christmas!!

Michigan last year, LSU next year!?! The schedules ASU comes out with are loco!

[lizrdgizrd]

Jesus H Christmas!!

Michigan last year, LSU next year!?! The schedules ASU comes out with are loco!
No one else will play us. :o

[LacesOut]

No one else will play us. :o

Would love to see you guys come to Newark, DE!!???

[AppSt.09]

Yeah....I've noticed that not only are they offended by playing App St....alot of their fans are a$$ clowns on their message board......I'll look forward to drinking them under the table at their tailgate and hopefully leaving the he!l hole that is Baton Rouge with a victory.....


Amen to the statement in bold!

[LehighFan11]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/stewart_mandel/02/12/lsu.appstate/1.html

Nice article about LSU-App match up by Stuart Mandell on cnnsi.com. Among other things he says that this is the most anticipated game of the 1st week of the 2008 season, that ESPN will mosty likley televise the game primetime, and the LSU AD said that App is more talented that 3/4 of the BCS schools out there--some nice compliments!
Good article, looking forward to 8pm ESPN game!

[lizrdgizrd]

Would love to see you guys come to Newark, DE!!???
I'd love to see a home and home with the Hens. Last time was a lot of fun. :D

[neersnbeers]

don't talk about my home like that. xlolx

If you're going to drink those guys under the table you better come ready, those country folks that tailgate are drinking machienes.

I believe most of us can hang. (speaking for tha city-boys too)

[parr90]

I am not an App fan but their win against Michigan was great. I have argued a long time that football is a state of mind. Just because a teams offensive line or linebackers are bigger, taller, 5 stars, doesnt mean they are as good as the press says they are. App beat Michigan and thats all that matters. They won because the players believed they could period. I played on a GSU team that led a #2 Florida State team in the 4th quarter 10-7 only losing 28-10 in 1988. I believe we would have held on to win if all of our players would have truly believed we would win even after Fla st took the lead 14-10, but I dont believe we did. I think that the feeling of " I knew this would happen" took over. Instead of saying "ok you took the lead now watch this". App never looked back. They got a taste of what the truth really was early in the game and ran with it. The truth is that the FCS players played with the FBS players in high school and many of the FCS guys were better. Just not as tall or big. If a guy signs with UGA but wasnt as good as his teammate in high school that signed with GSU, is the guy that went to UGA all of a sudden better now? No. There are many angles to this but it really boils down to Confidence. Confidence and execution, and App won both.

[appmountaineer]

You may not need ebay, although you may get them cheaper there. Last year I got my ticket through the Michigan AD web-site. I checked the LSU web-site and single game tickets haven't gone on sale yet.

Thanks for the advice. I'm sure i'll be able to find tickets some way.

[fjblair]

I am not an App fan but their win against Michigan was great. I have argued a long time that football is a state of mind .............. Confidence and execution, and App won both.

That is a really good post. Not because I am an App fan(I am) but because it is so true. The reverse is also true in that when ASU answered Michigan's scores and then took a lead it created doubt in the Michigan players and fans. You could feel it. If you are a huge favorite and get put on your heels early, you can psyche yourself out.

[dasjamin]

The Division 1 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!....only it can an offseason too late.

and guess what LSU has homefield advantage for this one too.

[james_lawfirm]

I am not an App fan but their win against Michigan was great. I have argued a long time that football is a state of mind. Just because a teams offensive line or linebackers are bigger, taller, 5 stars, doesnt mean they are as good as the press says they are. App beat Michigan and thats all that matters. They won because the players believed they could period. I played on a GSU team that led a #2 Florida State team in the 4th quarter 10-7 only losing 28-10 in 1988. I believe we would have held on to win if all of our players would have truly believed we would win even after Fla st took the lead 14-10, but I dont believe we did. I think that the feeling of " I knew this would happen" took over. Instead of saying "ok you took the lead now watch this". App never looked back. They got a taste of what the truth really was early in the game and ran with it. The truth is that the FCS players played with the FBS players in high school and many of the FCS guys were better. Just not as tall or big. If a guy signs with UGA but wasnt as good as his teammate in high school that signed with GSU, is the guy that went to UGA all of a sudden better now? No. There are many angles to this but it really boils down to Confidence. Confidence and execution, and App won both.


Parr:
I agree with you 90%. The only thing I would add is to reiterate that App won the Mich. game with superior speed. But there was also the confidence factor. I was there (on the 90th row!) & had my binoculars trained on Jake Long (OL, 6'20" & 520 lbs. & 0.04% body fat w/ razor tattoos on arms the size of large oak trees) during the coin toss. He was a team captain & had his helmet off so I could see his facial expressions. Throughout the coin toss, I could tell that Big Jake just really could not believe that the mighty Wolverines were playing these little fellers from Appalachian. (& how the heck do you pronounce Appalachian anyway?). He just had this grin that communicated all that (at least to me).

In addition, Lou Holtz said after the game that App. "knew how to win". That sums up exactly and concisely what you have said above about confidence. Fact is, ASU never lost their confidence. Coach Moore told the players before kickoff that they could win that game. At halftime, Coach Moore told the team that they were going to face the best that the Big 10 could offer in the third qtr. as Mich. tried to come back (28 - 17 at halftime). But we weathered that storm & won the game. Good teams just know how to win.

[Bluehenfan08]

Appy will not pull of another upset. They got lucky last year. Michigan played down to there level and it was the first game of the year. You don't know what you are going to get the first game of the year.

[HighRyder08]

Jerry Moore is going to have those boys ready! He understands what is ahead of them and knows what they need to do to win

[HighRyder08]

Appy will not pull of another upset. They got lucky last year. Michigan played down to there level and it was the first game of the year. You don't know what you are going to get the first game of the year.

Exactly... thats why its the first game of the year... you never know what could happen... I think ASU can do it

[Bluehenfan08]

That would be a good idea. It was no were close to a even playing field in the championship game. I was just sad that the game was decided by the ref s from the MEAC and not the players on the field. Those refs had no business being in that game.

[HighRyder08]

The game was not decided by the refs by any means... Yes there were questionable calls on both sides of the ball, but ASU was clearly the better team that night.. You cant deny it

[Bluehenfan08]

I would not expect to agree that, but the refs did decide that game and did it early in the game. UD has a long history of having bad refs from the MEAC in the playoffs. They have screwed us before. I will not admit that you were the more talented team. If we had a better game buy the refs it would have been a lost closer game. I am not saying we would have won, but it would have be closer. The appy fans showed there class by rushing the field with 4 minuts left in the game.

[bench]

I would not expect to agree that, but the refs did decide that game and did it early in the game. UD has a long history of having bad refs from the MEAC in the playoffs. They have screwed us before. I will not admit that you were the more talented team. If we had a better game buy the refs it would have been a lost closer game. I am not saying we would have won, but it would have be closer. The appy fans showed there class by rushing the field with 4 minuts left in the game.

Are you finished

[HighRyder08]

I would not expect to agree that, but the refs did decide that game and did it early in the game. UD has a long history of having bad refs from the MEAC in the playoffs. They have screwed us before. I will not admit that you were the more talented team. If we had a better game buy the refs it would have been a lost closer game. I am not saying we would have won, but it would have be closer. The appy fans showed there class by rushing the field with 4 minuts left in the game.

I mean wouldnt you get excited if you were about to be a Dynasty? Im done

[Appstate29]

I would not expect to agree that, but the refs did decide that game and did it early in the game. UD has a long history of having bad refs from the MEAC in the playoffs. They have screwed us before. I will not admit that you were the more talented team. If we had a better game buy the refs it would have been a lost closer game. I am not saying we would have won, but it would have be closer. The appy fans showed there class by rushing the field with 4 minuts left in the game.

your last sentence totally destroys your argument, and leads us to where your true intentions are. You know the refs didn't blow the game for you, you just have sour grapes. Look I can admit that the refs made some bad calls, and I'd be willing to say that more than half of them went against Delaware. They aren't worth any points as we don't know what would have happened if we had "flawless" refereeing, although I'd say we'd still win by 3+ touchdowns. As to the rushing of the field, I don't agree with it, but I don't see it as classless, just as unsafe. But you got to admit, most of the people who rushed were students, and since the game was basically over with 45 minutes left remaining on the gameclock, we had nothing better to do, we were bored out of our minds! (note, I didn't rush until after the game, I use the possesive because I am A. a student and B. was bored out of my mind). I spent much of the 2nd half figureing out which bar would have the best and cheapest libations and how in the hell i was going to get back to my hotel.

[Appguy]

That would be a good idea. It was no were close to a even playing field in the championship game. I was just sad that the game was decided by the ref s from the MEAC and not the players on the field. Those refs had no business being in that game.

sour grapes, any game decided by 3+ scores wasn't decided by the refs, unless it was the refs blowing coverage on our receivers or dropping flacco's passes all night?

Class? you mean like rocketing a football into a cops face?

[GGASU]

34-27 Good Guys
Late Touchdown by the Tigers keeps it close

[SoCon48]

That was back when they didn't know you existed.

NOR FURMAN for that matter.xcoffeex

[SoCon48]

I mean wouldnt you get excited if you were about to be a Dynasty? Im done

POST OF THE WEEK!!!!!!!

[Bluehenfan08]

As i said , i never said Del would have won, but it would be a much closer game and Appy is not that much better then del. Delaware has as many championships as you do and don't see calling them a dynasty. You guys are kidding yourself if you think you have a chance against LSU.

[Bluehenfan08]

So be bored is a no reason to rush the field with 4 minuts left in the game. You coach should on sound system and said something. But that showed he had no class either. I think it is a class issue between school anyway. Delaware fans would never do anything like that. Just my opinion that is all.

[APPALACHIANstate]

So be bored is a no reason to rush the field with 4 minuts left in the game. You coach should on sound system and said something. But that showed he had no class either. I think it is a class issue between school anyway. Delaware fans would never do anything like that. Just my opinion that is all.

Give me a break...


There is not Hate like Losing Team Hate...

[Touchdown Yosef]

So be bored is a no reason to rush the field with 4 minuts left in the game. You coach should on sound system and said something. But that showed he had no class either. I think it is a class issue between school anyway. Delaware fans would never do anything like that. Just my opinion that is all.

Dude read your posts before you hit submit reply, they don't make any sense. Your arguments are flawed and I have to read your post three times to understand what you are trying to say.

Oh and by the way no one "rushed" the field before the game was over they only gathered on the sidelines to celebrate a game that was decided on the field in the first quarter. The game was decided when we stopped you on fourth and goal and we stuffed cuff on your opening drive. The look on your coache's face said it all. "whats going on, isn't their run defense suposed to be atrocious" Classless was showing your frustrations by hitting a police officer in the face with a football.

Oh and by the way you are not a dynasty b/c you have won several NC's over your entire history. Dynasty's are created by consisent domination over a specific period of time. GSU and YSU also qualify, delaware does not.

Delaware does have a great football legacy and I would love to see us meet more often with home and homes, and yes please leave the MEAC officials at home, but please don't continue to take this thread down the road you are going.

One extremely confused delaware/dayton fan has already been owned on this thread and you are well on your way to being number 2.

[phillyAPP]

So be bored is a no reason to rush the field with 4 minuts left in the game. You coach should on sound system and said something. But that showed he had no class either. I think it is a class issue between school anyway. Delaware fans would never do anything like that. Just my opinion that is all.

YO 08 - You need to get some counseling. The game is over.

App may not win at LSU but we will play hard and give them more than they expect from the game. Instead of telling APP what to do, you should worry about UD.

Thought the "Yo" would wake you up. See you in Chattanooga next year !

[APPride]

So be bored is a no reason to rush the field with 4 minuts left in the game. You coach should on sound system and said something. But that showed he had no class either. I think it is a class issue between school anyway. Delaware fans would never do anything like that. Just my opinion that is all.

Betina (reincarnate) ?

xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx

[Touchdown Yosef]

As i said , i never said Del would have won, but it would be a much closer game and Appy is not that much better then del. Delaware has as many championships as you do and don't see calling them a dynasty. You guys are kidding yourself if you think you have a chance against LSU.

Now I could be wrong but according to my research 2003 is Delaware's only I-AA/FCS NC. Appalachain has 3. 1<3 not equal to. So ???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I-AA_national_football_championship

[AshevilleApp2]

So be bored is a no reason to rush the field with 4 minuts left in the game. You coach should on sound system and said something. But that showed he had no class either. I think it is a class issue between school anyway. Delaware fans would never do anything like that. Just my opinion that is all.

The argument about rushing the field has gone on since mid-December. Yes, it showed a lack in judgment to rush the field so early.

That said, the next time another school wins the NC, (hopefully not soon), I hope the fans do rush the field. Don't let your "class" keep you from enjoying the moment.

[OLDMAIN80]

So be bored is a no reason to rush the field with 4 minuts left in the game. You coach should on sound system and said something. But that showed he had no class either. I think it is a class issue between school anyway. Delaware fans would never do anything like that. Just my opinion that is all.

Never say never, '03 semi agianst Wofford. Your fans were on the field before the game was over, ran right past the police that were circling the field. No attempt to restore order and complete the game, maybe your coach should have taken your advice.

[DLS]

So be bored is a no reason to rush the field with 4 minuts left in the game. You coach should on sound system and said something. But that showed he had no class either. I think it is a class issue between school anyway. Delaware fans would never do anything like that. Just my opinion that is all.

since when did jerry become coach of the fans? if anyone should be on the PA it should be the refs. its well known that Appstate has rowdy fans and they just wrapped up the most historic season in I-AA yet, Im surprised the fans werent on the field at the end of the third quarter.

[neersnbeers]

Forget that d-bag. Now back to the topic at hand. Has anyone already booked hotel, etc. My pops and I are getting things lined up and was tryin to get situated with some fellow App folks. Any suggestions?

[AshevilleApp2]

Forget that d-bag. Now back to the topic at hand. Has anyone already booked hotel, etc. My pops and I are getting things lined up and was tryin to get situated with some fellow App folks. Any suggestions?

I found a room on Hotwire at an Extended Stay America for $53/night + tax. It's about five miles from the stadium, which is a little further than I'd like, but the price fits my budget. I've stayed at Extended Stay in a few places and had decent success. You get a full size refrigerator in your room, which is a nice benefit.

[lizrdgizrd]

I would not expect to agree that, but the refs did decide that game and did it early in the game. UD has a long history of having bad refs from the MEAC in the playoffs. They have screwed us before. I will not admit that you were the more talented team. If we had a better game buy the refs it would have been a lost closer game. I am not saying we would have won, but it would have be closer. The appy fans showed there class by rushing the field with 4 minuts left in the game.
Here are the threads you're looking for, bhf08. You're about 2 months late, but you can vent all you'd like in these:

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34735
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34738
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34747
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34749
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34763
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34829
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34851
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34930
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34987

Now back to the topic at hand. App can beat LSU. Will they? We'll see on August 30. xnodx

[813Jag]

I found a room on Hotwire at an Extended Stay America for $53/night + tax. It's about five miles from the stadium, which is a little further than I'd like, but the price fits my budget. I've stayed at Extended Stay in a few places and had decent success. You get a full size refrigerator in your room, which is a nice benefit.
Actually the way the traffic is around LSU on gamedays, you'd want to stay as far away as you can. Most resturants are located about 5-10 miles away from the campus.

[AshevilleApp2]

Actually the way the traffic is around LSU on gamedays, you'd want to stay as far away as you can. Most resturants are located about 5-10 miles away from the campus.

Is there pretty reliable public transportation? I don't want to be tempted to drive after I've been tailgating for several hours.

[McNeese75]

Actually the way the traffic is around LSU on gamedays, you'd want to stay as far away as you can. Most resturants are located about 5-10 miles away from the campus.


xnodx it's a real bit@h getting away from that stadium after a game.

[Touchdown Yosef]

xnodx it's a real bit@h getting away from that stadium after a game.

Will they let you stay and tailgate while traffic dies down after the game or do they run you off?

[Pard4Life]

LSU by 24... they will prepare for this game like it's the NC game.. they don't want to be Michigan, since ASU is capable.

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

I agree that LSU won't take App St. lightly. In spite of that, App St. will still score a lot of points I think. If I am a betting man, which I am not, I would take App St. to cover and the over.

Would love to watch this game. I saw the game vs. Michigan from a bar in Chappel Hill, NC before JMU vs. UNC and it was quite a fun time having all the Tarheel and Dukes fans united in cheering for the crazy upset. Good luck in Baton Rouge - I hope you win to make the JMU game on 9/20 even bigger in Harrisonburg!

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

NOTE: I said, "...Tarheel and DUKES fans..." not Duke... hell hasn't frozen over yet.

[813Jag]

Is there pretty reliable public transportation? I don't want to be tempted to drive after I've been tailgating for several hours.
Here's a website (http://www.brgov.com/dept/ddd/lsushuttle.htm?SPSID=27815&SPID=2164&DB_OEM_ID=5200) for the shuttle but it runs from downtown, which is actually past the LSU campus.

[813Jag]

Will they let you stay and tailgate while traffic dies down after the game or do they run you off?
I didn't see anything about a time limit on tailgating.

[OLDMAIN80]

I agree that LSU won't take App St. lightly. In spite of that, App St. will still score a lot of points I think. If I am a betting man, which I am not, I would take App St. to cover and the over.

Would love to watch this game. I saw the game vs. Michigan from a bar in Chappel Hill, NC before JMU vs. UNC and it was quite a fun time having all the Tarheel and Dukes fans united in cheering for the crazy upset. Good luck in Baton Rouge - I hope you win to make the JMU game on 9/20 even bigger in Harrisonburg!

I agree with the points and the over, looking forward to cashing in on that one. Would love to see the upset, that way when we take home the win in Boone we can say we beat the team that beat LSU. Got a lot of mileage out of the Michigan win last year.xthumbsupx

[AshevilleApp2]

Here's a website (http://www.brgov.com/dept/ddd/lsushuttle.htm?SPSID=27815&SPID=2164&DB_OEM_ID=5200) for the shuttle but it runs from downtown, which is actually past the LSU campus.

Thanks xthumbsupx

[Touchdown Yosef]

I agree with the points and the over, looking forward to cashing in on that one. Would love to see the upset, that way when we take home the win in Boone we can say we beat the team that beat LSU. Got a lot of mileage out of the Michigan win last year.xthumbsupx

You could have got a lot more if you didn't fumble the ball 9 times against NC State. No smack intended I was pulling for you and I hate NC State. You really should have beat them and beat them soundly.

[proasu89]

Betina (reincarnate) ?

xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx

No, I don't think so. Betina had a better grasp of grammar and sentence structure.xeyebrowx

[neersnbeers]

NOTE: I said, "...Tarheel and DUKES fans..." not Duke... hell hasn't frozen over yet.

Whew. There was steam building up for a second there. Greg Paulus (sp?) can gobble a gout.

[lizrdgizrd]

NOTE: I said, "...Tarheel and DUKES fans..." not Duke... hell hasn't frozen over yet.
Yeah, Duke fans don't know what football is anyway. xlolx

[neersnbeers]

Thanx for the info. If anyone makes group plans, PM me cuz I'm trying to do the same. Hopefully I can save up enough sky miles at work for cheap/free flights.

[lizrdgizrd]

I will be forced to watch this one at home too. 0&#37; chance the wife will let me out of the house that long with a 2 year old and a 3 month old. xbawlingx

[813Jag]

I will be forced to watch this one at home too. 0% chance the wife will let me out of the house that long with a 2 year old and a 3 month old. xbawlingx
The real reason is that she's scared you'd run into me there. xlolx

[lizrdgizrd]

The real reason is that she's scared you'd run into me there. xlolx
Yeah, she's scared I'd end up in a drunk tank in BR! xlolx

[813Jag]

Yeah, she's scared I'd end up in a drunk tank in BR! xlolx
Don't worry you'll have lots of company. xlolx I'm seriously trying to make my way back to BR for this one.

[udchuck]

Dude read your posts before you hit submit reply, they don't make any sense. Your arguments are flawed and I have to read your post three times to understand what you are trying to say.

Oh and by the way no one "rushed" the field before the game was over they only gathered on the sidelines to celebrate a game that was decided on the field in the first quarter. The game was decided when we stopped you on fourth and goal and we stuffed cuff on your opening drive. The look on your coache's face said it all. "whats going on, isn't their run defense suposed to be atrocious" Classless was showing your frustrations by hitting a police officer in the face with a football.

Oh and by the way you are not a dynasty b/c you have won several NC's over your entire history. Dynasty's are created by consisent domination over a specific period of time. GSU and YSU also qualify, delaware does not.

Delaware does have a great football legacy and I would love to see us meet more often with home and homes, and yes please leave the MEAC officials at home, but please don't continue to take this thread down the road you are going.

One extremely confused delaware/dayton fan has already been owned on this thread and you are well on your way to being number 2.

That comment was not called for,TY I thought you guys had a little class.but I guess I was wrong,I was just having a little fun with you guys,being a slow time of the year for a football fan.
I'm a confused Del/ Dayton fan ??? No just a Dayton fan, and I'm owned ????on this thread ???Not in a hundred years.

BY the way, for a College person ????You should learn how to spell.(,suposed is supposed).(consisent xlolx consistent ).Delaware/Dayton I think should deserved Capital Letters. AND YOU CALL ME Confused ?? You're pathetic,xcoffeex

[Bluehenfan08]

You guys all make good sense, I apologize. I would love to see a home and home series against you guys. We are better then we showed on the friday night, but we had to travel 3 long trips in threes weeks that a betting on you.

[Bluehenfan08]

But you have realize that LSU is completely different beast then Michigan was. It my be close but i see them winning.

[bench]

I will be forced to watch this one at home too. 0% chance the wife will let me out of the house that long with a 2 year old and a 3 month old. xbawlingx

The first time I read that I thought it said "a 2 month old and a 3 month old," and my reply was going to be "Well done"

[AshevilleApp2]

You guys all make good sense, I apologize. I would love to see a home and home series against you guys. We are better then we showed on the friday night, but we had to travel 3 long trips in threes weeks that a betting on you.

xpeacex

[lizrdgizrd]

The first time I read that I thought it said "a 2 month old and a 3 month old," and my reply was going to be "Well done"
I'd have to have said "wives" instead of wife then! xlolx

[Touchdown Yosef]

That comment was not called for,TY I thought you guys had a little class.but I guess I was wrong,I was just having a little fun with you guys,being a slow time of the year for a football fan.
I'm a confused Del/ Dayton fan ??? No just a Dayton fan, and I'm owned ????on this thread ???Not in a hundred years.

BY the way, for a College person ????You should learn how to spell.(,suposed is supposed).(consisent xlolx consistent ).Delaware/Dayton I think should deserved Capital Letters. AND YOU CALL ME Confused ?? You're pathetic,xcoffeex

Your fun is constantly at someone else's expense, not a friendly argument or debate.

I appreciate you lesson in spelling but I couldn't care less. I don't run spell check on my posts and I never will. I also don't care about capitalization and I see no reason to worry about it or worry about anyone eles's, that is nothing more than nit picky. I was not calling out this person for bad grammar or misspelled words and was not making a personal attack at his level of education. I simply and truthfully want him to re-read his posts before he posts them. They didn't make sense and you had to read them several times to get the jist of what he was trying to say. His research was also lacking as I pointed out in another post.

If he wants to come in and get off topic by bringing up a game that was not being discussed than he can expect to have his opinion disputed and errors in his facts pointed out. Same as you would if I found a dayton thread and took it off topic by bringing up playoff selection or division 2.

As far as your posts on this board I really don't feel like discussing them again, if anyone wants to they can go back and read them for themselves. I for one am just waiting for Aug. 30.

[biggie]

From my searching for info:

Flying out the Thursday 28th returning Monday 2nd.

Skybus flight from Greensboro to Boluxi is running about $92 round trip. Boluxi is probably a 2/2.5hr drive to Baton Rouge

Northwest is the cheapest I found from Greensboro to Lafayette, about $292.

Think we are just driving. Happy its on Labor Day weekend so already have Monday off. Got tickets lined up and staying in Lafayette with family. Just have to find the family and neighbors tickets.

[LehighFan11]

Whew. There was steam building up for a second there. Greg Paulus (sp?) can gobble a gout.

Haha, can we turn this into a hate duke thread? just kidding...

App guys, is there any chance I would be able to get tickets in or near the App section? If I go, no way im sitting with a bunch of LSU faithful.

[Touchdown Yosef]

Haha, can we turn this into a hate duke thread? just kidding...

App guys, is there any chance I would be able to get tickets in or near the App section? If I go, no way im sitting with a bunch of LSU faithful.

my guess would be that app fans will be spread all over the stadium. I think our allotment will sell out leaving a large number of fans to find tickets through LSU. My guess is there will be pockets of people all over the stadium. I would look for an asu fan with extra tickets or try and get with a group of people trying to scalp them on game day. Just my thoughts.

[AshevilleApp2]

Haha, can we turn this into a hate duke thread? just kidding...

App guys, is there any chance I would be able to get tickets in or near the App section? If I go, no way im sitting with a bunch of LSU faithful.

You might just have to squeeze in. Tickets for the Michigan game were offered to Yosef Club (boosters) members and students. Having graduated and not being a club member, I sat in a Michigan fan dominated section. The Michigan fans were fine, but from what I understand they're sedate compared to LSU fans. I'm going anyway.

[neersnbeers]

You might just have to squeeze in. Tickets for the Michigan game were offered to Yosef Club (boosters) members and students. Having graduated and not being a club member, I sat in a Michigan fan dominated section. The Michigan fans were fine, but from what I understand they're sedate compared to LSU fans. I'm going anyway.

Same deal here. But I have a good high school friend who's father is VP of Blue Ridge Electric(major corpsponsor of App)hope she can hook it up.

[OLDMAIN80]

You could have got a lot more if you didn't fumble the ball 9 times against NC State. No smack intended I was pulling for you and I hate NC State. You really should have beat them and beat them soundly.

None taken, you nailed it, we really left that one on the field.

[AppIAA]

I agree with the points and the over, looking forward to cashing in on that one. Would love to see the upset, that way when we take home the win in Boone we can say we beat the team that beat LSU. Got a lot of mileage out of the Michigan win last year.xthumbsupx

Well apparently you beating us after we beat a "big" team, gives us some luck... remember what happened last time those event occured? xsmiley_wix

hah.. Wofford had a hell of a team last year, and State should not have won that game..

[813Jag]

Haha, can we turn this into a hate duke thread? just kidding...

App guys, is there any chance I would be able to get tickets in or near the App section? If I go, no way im sitting with a bunch of LSU faithful.
You won't have much choice in Tiger Stadium.

[AppSt.09]

I would not expect to agree that, but the refs did decide that game and did it early in the game. UD has a long history of having bad refs from the MEAC in the playoffs. They have screwed us before. I will not admit that you were the more talented team. If we had a better game buy the refs it would have been a lost closer game. I am not saying we would have won, but it would have be closer. The appy fans showed there class by rushing the field with 4 minuts left in the game.

Just a little bitter are we. If ya'll would have given us a better game then our fans wouldn't of had to rush the fields with 3:19 left on the board.

[AppSt.09]

From my searching for info:

Flying out the Thursday 28th returning Monday 2nd.

Skybus flight from Greensboro to Boluxi is running about $92 round trip. Boluxi is probably a 2/2.5hr drive to Baton Rouge

Northwest is the cheapest I found from Greensboro to Lafayette, about $292.

Think we are just driving. Happy its on Labor Day weekend so already have Monday off. Got tickets lined up and staying in Lafayette with family. Just have to find the family and neighbors tickets.

Skybus also goes from Greensboro to New Orleans as well and I believe New Orleans is closer to Baton Rouge than Biluxi is; but don't take my word for, it I'm just going on what I remember from driving home from Houston to Greensboro next year.

[813Jag]

Skybus also goes from Greensboro to New Orleans as well and I believe New Orleans is closer to Baton Rouge than Biluxi is; but don't take my word for, it I'm just going on what I remember from driving home from Houston to Greensboro next year.
New Orleans is about 80 minutes from Baton Rouge.

[ASU83]

Skybus also goes from Greensboro to New Orleans as well and I believe New Orleans is closer to Baton Rouge than Biluxi is; but don't take my word for, it I'm just going on what I remember from driving home from Houston to Greensboro next year.

Skybus does not fly into NOLA. Biloxi/Gulfport is the closest airport to BR it flies to.

[biggie]

Skybus does not fly into NOLA. Biloxi/Gulfport is the closest airport to BR it flies to.
Yep, if it would have been NO for $90 or so, I would definately be flying instead of driving.

Last time I made the trip was in '01, left at 1am from Boone, long drive during early morning hours, but missing ATL morning rush hour traffic was key.

[redspider]

All I can say is that I cant wait for this game what a great upset it would be! And how amazing it is that the champions of the two divison divisions get to meet!

[MountaineerGuy]

NOTE: I said, "...Tarheel and DUKES fans..." not Duke... hell hasn't frozen over yet.

LOLOL

When I read your post above that, I thought to myself (literally, word for word), "What bar in Chapel Hill let Duke fans in...and why would they be united...it's not like Hell froze over."

In my book, Post of the Week at least.

[APPdopted]

Any thoughts or knowledge on who's covering this game? Also, I have a funny feeling that Gameday might be there. Anyone have thoughts on that as well?

[Appinator]

Any thoughts or knowledge on who's covering this game? Also, I have a funny feeling that Gameday might be there. Anyone have thoughts on that as well?

As much as I would like the opportunity to boo their picks against us live in BR, I would think that Gameday would be in Atlanta for the Clemson-Alabama game that ESPN brokered. I am not too sure if that's a night game as well, but if that’s the case we would probably be on the next step down of their networks. (AL-Clemson on ABC, we're on ESPN, AL-Clemson on ESPN, we're on ESPN2)

[LehighFan11]

As much as I would like the opportunity to boo their picks against us live in BR, I would think that Gameday would be in Atlanta for the Clemson-Alabama game that ESPN brokered. I am not too sure if that's a night game as well, but if that’s the case we would probably be on the next step down of their networks. (AL-Clemson on ABC, we're on ESPN, AL-Clemson on ESPN, we're on ESPN2)

From what i remember, Alabama v. Clemson is a 7pm game. The game that the gameday crew is at doesn't have to be 8pm on ABC. Herby does the night game on ABC, but he has flown to another site to cover the ABC game. So, ESPN has a decision to make, but im sure everyone wants to see coverage of App St so the gameday crew might be down in BR.

[Rekdiver]

Well I guess since we aren't playing the best team in the SEC we should back out of the LSU game?

I have no illusions about this game. ASU will get the full attention of LSU players, coaches and preparation. A sign of respect will be LSU preparing for us the same way they prepare for any other SEC opponent and I expect no less. We won't sneak up on them. The media hype will whip the Tigers into a frenzy and we will have to hang in there with a highly charged atmosphere and the subsequent onslaught for the 1st quarter.

LSU will prepare for the spread. Both team's players are equivilantly fast but LSU's will be "slightly" bigger and deeper. This could easily look like the UGA-Hawaii bowl game. Again, this game is a pay day for ASU, not a National Championship Game. We will play to win but pull our starters if there is no hope of willing. We have nothing to gain from having people hurt with JMU looming in two weeks. Again its all about the ring.

[neersnbeers]

Well I guess since we aren't playing the best team in the SEC we should back out of the LSU game?

I have no illusions about this game. ASU will get the full attention of LSU players, coaches and preparation. A sign of respect will be LSU preparing for us the same way they prepare for any other SEC opponent and I expect no less. We won't sneak up on them. The media hype will whip the Tigers into a frenzy and we will have to hang in there with a highly charged atmosphere and the subsequent onslaught for the 1st quarter.

LSU will prepare for the spread. Both team's players are equivilantly fast but LSU's will be "slightly" bigger and deeper. This could easily look like the UGA-Hawaii bowl game. Again, this game is a pay day for ASU, not a National Championship Game. We will play to win but pull our starters if there is no hope of willing. We have nothing to gain from having people hurt with JMU looming in two weeks. Again its all about the ring.


I def. agree with ya there. except that i think we're a bit faster than Hawaii "turtle" speed. Like you said, the opening atmosphere is going to be freakin nuts. If we can get past the initial grung, I think we might hang for a bit. We'll see. I'll def be a witness.xpeacex

[APPdopted]

As much as I would like the opportunity to boo their picks against us live in BR, I would think that Gameday would be in Atlanta for the Clemson-Alabama game that ESPN brokered. I am not too sure if that's a night game as well, but if that’s the case we would probably be on the next step down of their networks. (AL-Clemson on ABC, we're on ESPN, AL-Clemson on ESPN, we're on ESPN2)

Good point...I am actually in Grad School at Clemson now and I am torn between which game to attend if either. However, I still see a draw from the Gameday crew to a matchup of both nat'l champs esp after what App did at the Big House. My fiance is a senior at App now, and she has always talked to me about getting Gameday there, like if it was possible because of App's recent run. This may be a good possibility to have them do a game. This might be the best chance to lure them to Boone now if ever. I know it's far fetched but I've attended two ACC schools and seen Gameday 3 times. They should take a shot on an FCS school. I enjoy the competition here just as much as FBS. It'd be great exposure for FCS because there are many schools not far off from doing what App did in Ann Arbor

[Appguy]

Well I guess since we aren't playing the best team in the SEC we should back out of the LSU game?

I have no illusions about this game. ASU will get the full attention of LSU players, coaches and preparation. A sign of respect will be LSU preparing for us the same way they prepare for any other SEC opponent and I expect no less. We won't sneak up on them. The media hype will whip the Tigers into a frenzy and we will have to hang in there with a highly charged atmosphere and the subsequent onslaught for the 1st quarter.

LSU will prepare for the spread. Both team's players are equivilantly fast but LSU's will be "slightly" bigger and deeper. This could easily look like the UGA-Hawaii bowl game. Again, this game is a pay day for ASU, not a National Championship Game. We will play to win but pull our starters if there is no hope of willing. We have nothing to gain from having people hurt with JMU looming in two weeks. Again its all about the ring.

Michigan's defense is closer to UGA than LSU's 08 defense

[JBB]

Because they beat Michigan it has interest. From what Ive seen, and I saw both teams play on TV last season, ASU is going to go down and probably big.

I would give 17 to ASU fans right now. Over under would be something like 56 with LSU getting the vast majority of the points.

Im sorry, but they are just too physical, just too fast and just too good. That doesn't even mention coaching, game plan and execution.

Its an interesting game, but at this point it looks exactly like the Michigan game looked last year. ASU doesnt have a chance. xcoolx

[jonmac]

Because they beat Michigan it has interest. From what Ive seen, and I saw both teams play on TV last season, ASU is going to go down and probably big.

I would give 17 to ASU fans right now. Over under would be something like 56 with LSU getting the vast majority of the points.

Im sorry, but they are just too physical, just too fast and just too good. That doesn't even mention coaching, game plan and execution.

Its an interesting game, but at this point it looks exactly like the Michigan game looked last year. ASU doesnt have a chance. xcoolx

Agree some, disagree some. Glad you didn't mention coaching and game plan because if all else is equal I would put current day Jerry Moore and current staff up against any staff in college football. What impresses me more is what they do with things not being equal. What I agree with is that we most likely will not win. But, although they have more resources, LSU will have some holes to fill and who knows how full they will be on opening day. It has been mentioned that Michigan was not LSU and that much is true but this season's LSU is also not last season's LSU. And the same can and I'm sure will be said about this season's Mountaineers. We know that both teams will be good, as well as many others, but we don't know how good. It has been metioned somewhere else, maybe in this thread, not sure that LSU will mostly be picked the 3rd best team in the SEC behind Georgia and Florida. And to think I was worried what we were going to talk about in this my first off-season on AGS. xsmiley_wix

[APPdopted]

about Clemson and Alabama getting Gameday...Just thought of this...that game is at a neutral site game in Atlanta...with probably less of a setting appeal than a neutral site game like Ga/FL or Tx/Ok

and I originally got my interest sparked by reading an article by Stewart Mandel on SI.com that said: "Reigning BCS champion LSU announced it will host the Mountaineers on Aug. 30, creating the first-ever meeting between two defending national champions. With all due respect to Missouri-Illinois and USC-Virginia, it will arguably be the most intriguing matchup of opening weekend."

he also says that both schools have confirmed that ESPN is talking about prime time coverage.

[McNeese75]

Agree some, disagree some. Glad you didn't mention coaching and game plan because if all else is equal I would put current day Jerry Moore and current staff up against any staff in college football. What impresses me more is what they do with things not being equal. What I agree with is that we most likely will not win. But, although they have more resources, It has been mentioned that Michigan was not LSU and that much is true but this sea LSU will have some holes to fill and who knows how full they will be on opening day.son's LSU is also not last season's LSU. And the same can and I'm sure will be said about this season's Mountaineers. We know that both teams will be good, as well as many others, but we don't know how good. It has been metioned somewhere else, maybe in this thread, not sure that LSU will mostly be picked the 3rd best team in the SEC behind Georgia and Florida. And to think I was worried what we were going to talk about in this my first off-season on AGS. xsmiley_wix

Yep, LSU has to fill a few holes just like ASU has to fill probably just as many. When you go back and compare recruiting classes for the two schools over the last 2-3 years that will give you an idea of what caliber athlete is going to be filling those holes. It will be fun, but it will be very difficult I'm afraid.

[jonmac]

I'm with ya there McNeese75. Notice I did mention that LSU has more resources. It's definitely another high mountain to climb. What we have to give us hope is the same stuff was said last year before "the game". And, though it is arguable, Michigan turned out to be a very good football team at season's end, as undoubtedly so will LSU, if not way before season's end. My main point is that LSU will be a different team at the beginning of this season as will ASU. Time will tell, are we there yet?xcoolx

[McNeese75]

I'm with ya there McNeese75. Notice I did mention that LSU has more resources. It's definitely another high mountain to climb. What we have to give us hope is the same stuff was said last year before "the game". And, though it is arguable, Michigan turned out to be a very good football team at season's end, as undoubtedly so will LSU, if not way before season's end. My main point is that LSU will be a different team at the beginning of this season as will ASU. Time will tell, are we there yet?xcoolx

I agree xnodx

[GeauxColonels]

I didn't see anything about a time limit on tailgating.
OK, I've been to LSU games last year and over the last few years since their 1st national championship run (it was my first year of grad school at LSU)

People start arriving Wednesday afternoon in their RVS and don't leave until mid-day on Sunday. NO ONE will be run off after the game. The BEST plan is to PREPARE to tailgate as much after the game as before the game. It takes at least 2-3 hours for the roads to clear out. And if you're not familiar with the area, that's your best option. The Baton Rouge police department changes the traffic flow patterns after the game making MANY roads one-way away from the stadium and you're not allowed to turn off of many of the roads.

My advice is to make friends with LSU fans nearby (as they will provide you with food and even more booze) and DEFINITELY stay several hours after the game to allow time for the place to clear out and the traffic flows to revert to their normal levels and directions.

If anyone else has ANY questions, feel free to PM me or ask me here. I've lived in the Baton Rouge area for about 5 years now. I drive past Tiger Stadium and through the LSU campus EVERY DAY on my way to work in downtown BR.

Just make sure you enjoy yourselves while you're down here. I'm definitely planning on getting to see that game.

[McNeese75]

Good Advice, the only other option is to park on Nicholson and leave early.

[JohnStOnge]

I can't speak for the players or coaches, but the Michigan fans definitely overlooked us. I don't expect that LSU will.

Correct. On the speed thing we were discussing, I think if people really think about it they can see it wasn't that Michigan had never seen team speed like App had. Take the Ohio State team from the year before. Tedd Ginn set an Ohio record in high school with a 10.38 100 meters. His average 40 yard time as reported at NFLdraftscout was 4.38 (and he actually ran that at the combine). Tony Gonzales, the other wideout, was reported by NFLdraftscout going into the 2008 draft as having an average 40 yard time of 4.44 (no combine time given). Dexter Jackson's average 40 time at NFLdraftscout is 4.36. It'll be interesting to see what his combine time is.

So you're you're talking about Ted Ginn being about as fast as Dexter Jackson is (probably faster in the 100 meters) and Gonzales being pretty darned fast too. Both Ginn and Gonzalez were taken in the first round. And another 2006 Ohio State wideout, Roy Hall, was taken in the 5th round. He isn't slow either (NFL Draft Scout average 4.46). I don't know how many defensive backs Michigan had returning but the ones that did come back weren't seeing a general level of speed at the wideout position in Appalachian State that they had never seen before.

2006 Ohio State running back Antonio Pittman was reported by NFLscout at average 4.40. For comparison: App State's Kevin Richardson's is reported at average 4.55.

Don't have Ohio State's 2006 free safety's time but this year's player in that position, Nick Patterson, has a NFL Draft Scout reported average 40 yard time of 4.58. Corey Lynch is reported at 4.64.

Quinn Pitcock, a 299 pound Ohio State defensive tackle taken in last season's NFL draft was reported by NFLscoutn at 4.87 average in the 40. Ohio State 247 pound linebacker James Laurinaitis, who will go in the draft this year but was on the field last year, is reported at average 4.53...about the same as Richardson.

No doubt the 2007 App State team had a faster quarterback than the 2006Ohio State did. But if someone were to say they'd dig up all the information on the 40 yard times on all of the starters in particular and teams overall I'd feel very confident betting that 2006 Ohio State would be seen as the faster team overall. At most positions, they'd have faster players.

[Jerbearasu]

Team speed isn't just about individual players. That is where everyone is getting confused on this subject. You can put Randy Moss in a Power I formation and he is fast but the team is still not because it is a different philosophy... App's "speed" is based on spreading the field which causes either really soft coverage schemes or 1 on 1 matchups. In both of those scenarios there are spots that you can exploit. The other aspect is the tempo that ASU decides to use. I am sure everyone has seen where they talk about the Jet, Indy and regular speed that App uses but that keeps defenses guessing about when things will get going and really keeps people off-balance.

[fjblair]

Because they beat Michigan it has interest. From what Ive seen, and I saw both teams play on TV last season, ASU is going to go down and probably big.

I would give 17 to ASU fans right now. Over under would be something like 56 with LSU getting the vast majority of the points.

Im sorry, but they are just too physical, just too fast and just too good. That doesn't even mention coaching, game plan and execution.

Its an interesting game, but at this point it looks exactly like the Michigan game looked last year. ASU doesnt have a chance. xcoolx


I would say LSU has zero advantage in coaching, game plan and execution.If there is any advantage I would give it to ASU in that department. There are probably 10 coaches who could take LSU assets and parlay it into National Champ contenders.

This is not a slam on Miles, he is a proven champion. Great coach.

[Touchdown Yosef]

Good Advice, the only other option is to park on Nicholson and leave early.

No matter what, that will not be an option. Thanks for all the advice though.

[McNeese75]

No matter what, that will not be an option. Thanks for all the advice though.

I understand, I was just giving you the option of hanging around for 2-3 hours afterwards or driving straight out. :D The previous comment about control flow on the streets after the game is all too true. It took me over 2 hours to try and get 2 miles away.

[JohnStOnge]

Team speed isn't just about individual players. That is where everyone is getting confused on this subject. You can put Randy Moss in a Power I formation and he is fast but the team is still not because it is a different philosophy... App's "speed" is based on spreading the field which causes either really soft coverage schemes or 1 on 1 matchups. In both of those scenarios there are spots that you can exploit. The other aspect is the tempo that ASU decides to use. I am sure everyone has seen where they talk about the Jet, Indy and regular speed that App uses but that keeps defenses guessing about when things will get going and really keeps people off-balance.

Whether or not you scheme to take full advantage of what speed you have is a different matter. What I'm talking about is how fast the athletes are position by position.

[SoCon48]

It only takes ONE to outrun everyone else. It doesn't matter that other teams had 10 guys almost as fast as ASU's DJ.

[udchuck]

No matter what, that will not be an option. Thanks for all the advice though.

Probably the best option is to stay home with a good woman turn on the TV watch a good game then make love.Why go to the Appy/LSU game spend a ton of money, go through a lot of aggravation,then see Appy lose big??xthumbsupx xcoffeex