2024 FCS Playoff Selection Show | S8E16 FCS Fans Nation Podcast

[McCowboys]

https://www.youtube.com/live/OkFRUalBJNE

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[Gil Dobie]

How about the Princeton basketball team

[caribbeanhen]

How about the Princeton basketball team

my feed says the FCS Selection show is on ESPN + at 12:30 EST

[Gil Dobie]

my feed says the FCS Selection show is on ESPN + at 12:30 EST

Channel guide shows 11am on ESPNU

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

Channel guide shows 11am on ESPNU

YouTube TV says the current game should be Bradley-MTSU!

[ngineer]

Channel guide shows 11am on ESPNU

Mine, EST, is 12:30 on ESPNU.

[Gil Dobie]

Mine, EST, is 12:30 on ESPNU.

Probably more in line of what it looks like.

Youtube talk is good right now.

[POD Knows]

The ESPn website says it is on ESPN+ but it is actually on ESPNU at 11:30 here is a link to ESPNU

https://thetvapp.to/tv/espnu-live-stream/

[MR. CHICKEN]

ALMOST TIME! xpopcornx

[caribbeanhen]

The ESPn website says it is on ESPN+ but it is actually on ESPNU at 11:30 here is a link to ESPNU

https://thetvapp.to/tv/espnu-live-stream/

it's both ESPNU and +

[ElCid]

What an absolute idiots they have on this show. The one idiot said 12 regular season games was new to FCS. Where do they get these goons?

[ElCid]

No surprises on the top 4.

[Professor Chaos]

AGS Poll had the right top 8 - order was slightly off as NDSU and SDSU were flipped - Idaho was 2 higher and Mercer was 1 lower in the AGS Poll.

[Professor Chaos]

Potential rematches in the quarters with Incarnate Word going back to Brookings to play SDSU and Idaho going back to Bozeman to play Montana St.

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

What an absolute idiots they have on this show. The one idiot said 12 regular season games was new to FCS. Where do they get these goons?

I watch plenty of college football and never heard of these guys.

Maybe they won a contest?

[ElCid]

I watch plenty of college football and never heard of these guys.

Maybe they won a contest?

The low level of knowledge of some announcers is embarrassing. During our game yesterday with Clemson the called us University of The Citadel.

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

The low level of knowledge of some announcers is embarrassing. During our game yesterday with Clemson the called us University of The Citadel.

Most announcers at that level aren't doing research. They have people for that.

[CHIP72]

Dumbass ESPN shows a Lafayette logo for Lehigh.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

They have Lafayette's logo in place of Lehigh :(

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

They also had Duquesne and CCSU as automatic qualifiers.

Drake played 10 games in a 12-game year.

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

UNH from the COLONIAL Athletic Association.

Their OL coach is a former SFU coach. Great man!

[Professor Chaos]

UTM is the first bubble team in - AGS Poll had them as the last team in.

[caribbeanhen]

Harvard beat the 16th seed

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Richmond from the Coastal Athletic Association. This is troubling to watch...

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

Lehigh's next two games will be against Richmond.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wow, Lehigh at Richmond....1998 again?!?!

[caribbeanhen]

Richmond and Lehigh are both better than Idaho

[Professor Chaos]

AGS Poll has nailed Richmond, Illinois St, Tarleton, and UNH seeds exactly on the left side of the bracket!

[ElCid]

Lehigh's next two games will be against Richmond.

Not if they win...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Not if they win...

Lehigh actually played at Idaho once (1993) when Nussmeier was their QB. It wasn't pretty. Same day as #1 FSU vs #2 ND....

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

They are really stretching this thing out.

[UNHWildcat18]

Montana is a 14 seed????

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

TSU can pay off the mortgage now!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Montana vs Tennessee State on ESPN2!! Sweet!

[Professor Chaos]

Montana is a 14 seed????
Dude... just look at the AGS Poll - it's been pretty balls on so far.

Tennessee St as the next bubble team in - AGS Poll had them as the 2nd to last team in.

[ElCid]

Montana vs Tennessee State on ESPN2!! Sweet!

Unfortunately Montana will probably steamroll them.

[POD Knows]

it's both ESPNU and +
I can’t get it on +.

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

These hybrid conference names sound hilarious out loud.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Unfortunately Montana will probably steamroll them.

SEMO went up there a couple years ago and almost beat them. I think TSU will give them a full 60. This is a vulnerable Griz team....

[Professor Chaos]

And there's EKU in which AGS Poll had as the 3rd to last team in - only one bubble spot left. AGS Poll says it'll be NAU.

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

URI's colors are elite.

[TheKingpin28]

Did AGS just call it perfectly?

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[KnightoftheRedFlash]

So who got jitted?

[TheKingpin28]

So who got jitted?I don't think anyone did? Someone could say SLU but those FBS losses added up.

Some might say the Dakota conundrum as well but that's a whole different discussion.

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[Chalupa Batman]

Did AGS just call it perfectly?

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I believe we did, well done everyone! xbowx

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So who got jitted?

Idaho

[ElCid]

AGS Poll rules!

[caribbeanhen]

I can’t get it on +.

I did

via Firestick and the ESPN app

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

The NEC and PL should have had multiple teams in. LIU got robbed. Lots of quality losses! :D

[TheKingpin28]

Excellent work everyone! Somehow, the STATS will miraculously be close too.

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[Professor Chaos]

Did AGS just call it perfectly?

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As close as you can get - nailed all 14 at-large, nailed seeds 9-16 exactly, were only 5 total seed lines off in the top 8 (NDSU and SDSU flipped, had Idaho two spots too high, and Mercer one spot too low), and even had the same first 4 out as the committee.

[TheKingpin28]

As close as you can get - nailed all 14 at-large, nailed seeds 9-16 exactly, were only 5 total seed lines off in the top 8 (NDSU and SDSU flipped, had Idaho two spots too high, and Mercer one spot too low), and even had the same first 4 out as the committee.Time to petition the committee to be able to officially use AGS as a tool. [emoji16]

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[TheKingpin28]

We going to get an official tweet out? Would be nice for "those that know more" to see the best poll out there?

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[hebmskebm]

They also had Duquesne and CCSU as automatic qualifiers.

Drake played 10 games in a 12-game year.

FWIW Drake did have 11 games on the schedule. Their opening game against D2 Quincy was abandoned after the first half due to weather and declared a no contest.

[Nova09]

Hey SDSU bros let's keep this less than 10 year old rivalry going! Not sure I can call it a rivalry until we win but the games have all been competitive at least.

[caribbeanhen]

I don't think anyone did? Someone could say SLU but those FBS losses added up.

Some might say the Dakota conundrum as well but that's a whole different discussion.

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Richmond got jilted

Recent playoff history tells us Idaho should be the team that has to beat Lehigh to earn the right to visit the Spiders

[SteelSD]

Hey SDSU bros let's keep this less than 10 year old rivalry going! Not sure I can call it a rivalry until we win but the games have all been competitive at least.
Sounds good, do your part and we can make it happen.

[POD Knows]

Richmond got jilted

Recent playoff history tells us Idaho should be the team that has to beat Lehigh to earn the right to visit the SpidersRichmond beat exactly ZERO ranked teams (season ending rankings, which is all that matters). They freaking lost to Wofford for ****s sake. I had them at 9 by default in my poll. JFC, Idaho beat FBS team, beat two teams that made the final 24, lost by 10 to Oregon, you cannot be serious with respect to resumes.

[JacksFan40]

Hey SDSU bros let's keep this less than 10 year old rivalry going! Not sure I can call it a rivalry until we win but the games have all been competitive at least.
Hopefully it’s not another heart attack inducing game like the previous two times you’ve come to Brookings.

[caribbeanhen]

Richmond beat exactly ZERO ranked teams (season ending rankings, which is all that matters). They freaking lost to Wofford for ****s sake. I had them at 9 by default in my poll. JFC, Idaho beat FBS team, beat two teams that made the final 24, lost by 10 to Oregon, you cannot be serious with respect to resumes.

If I replace Richmond with Albany in your post, it would be the same as I heard last year when I was pumping Albany

[MR. CHICKEN]

Richmond beat exactly ZERO ranked teams (season ending rankings, which is all that matters). They freaking lost to Wofford for ****s sake. I had them at 9 by default in my poll. JFC, Idaho beat FBS team, beat two teams that made the final 24, lost by 10 to Oregon, you cannot be serious with respect to resumes.


......DELAWARE WOODAH BEEN RANKED......AN' @ TIME UH SPIDER'S DUBBYA.......UNDEFEATED HENS WOODAH BEEN TOP TEN........PER MASN ANNOUNCERS WHOM....CARRIED DUH GAME..........AWK!!!

[POD Knows]

If I replace Richmond with Albany in your post, it would be the same as I heard last year when I was pumping AlbanyThey got lucky in Idaho and got their asses handed to them by SDSU, the real team showed up in Brookings. I am not saying Richmond can't beat Idaho but you have to look at resumes and I have no idea where you are coming up with Richmond being ahead of Idaho and using a playoff game from last year against a totally different team is odd dude. Explain it to me rationally, using 2024 performance and records as to why Richmond should be ahead of Idaho. I don't get it, I don't even really think it is close. Both of Idaho's losses came to seeded teams this year. They had an FBS loss, by 10, to freaking Oregon.

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

Idaho's 10-point loss to #1 Oregon might be the best FCS result this year.

[POD Knows]

......DELAWARE WOODAH BEEN RANKED......AN' @ TIME UH SPIDER'S DUBBYA.......UNDEFEATED HENS WOODAH BEEN TOP TEN........PER MASN ANNOUNCERS WHOM....CARRIED DUH GAME..........AWK!!!
Delaware had one quality win.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Delaware had one quality win.

.......LIKE......SOUTH DAKOTA.....xsighx....AWK!

[POD Knows]

.......LIKE......SOUTH DAKOTA.....xsighx....AWK!
Yea. Something like that. Delaware would have made the playoffs. Would have finished behind Richmond. Maybe would have got a top 16 maybe. They didn’t exactly have a gauntlet of a schedule though.

[TheKingpin28]

Richmond got jilted

Recent playoff history tells us Idaho should be the team that has to beat Lehigh to earn the right to visit the SpidersRecent playoff history has zero to do with this year. I'm also the same one who believes Richmond is better than Mercer to that fact.

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[caribbeanhen]

They got lucky in Idaho and got their asses handed to them by SDSU, the real team showed up in Brookings. I am not saying Richmond can't beat Idaho but you have to look at resumes and I have no idea where you are coming up with Richmond being ahead of Idaho and using a playoff game from last year against a totally different team is odd dude. Explain it to me rationally, using 2024 performance and records as to why Richmond should be ahead of Idaho. I don't get it, I don't even really think it is close. Both of Idaho's losses came to seeded teams this year. They had an FBS loss, by 10, to freaking Oregon.

Nobody gets lucky in Idaho, you’re just gonna have to trust me on this. That’s all I can say right now as I’m driving over a bridge.

[ElCid]

I am not saying Richmond can't beat Idaho but you have to look at resumes and I have no idea where you are coming up with Richmond being ahead of Idaho and using a playoff game from last year against a totally different team is odd dude.

I'm fairly sure lots of folks from the Big Sky and even the MVFC do this ALL the time. Just saying.

[ElCid]

Playoff history has zero to do with this year. I'm also the same one who believes Richmond is better than Mercer to that fact.

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FIFY

[POD Knows]

Nobody gets lucky in Idaho, you’re just gonna have to trust me on this. That’s all I can say right now as I’m driving over a bridge.
Mormon husbands do, more so than their wives.

[POD Knows]

I'm fairly sure lots of folks from the Big Sky and even the MVFC do this ALL the time. Just saying.
If I used playoff games from years gone by I don’t think any CAA team should be in the playoffs now that JMU is gone. 😀

[caribbeanhen]

They got lucky in Idaho and got their asses handed to them by SDSU, the real team showed up in Brookings. I am not saying Richmond can't beat Idaho but you have to look at resumes and I have no idea where you are coming up with Richmond being ahead of Idaho and using a playoff game from last year against a totally different team is odd dude. Explain it to me rationally, using 2024 performance and records as to why Richmond should be ahead of Idaho. I don't get it, I don't even really think it is close. Both of Idaho's losses came to seeded teams this year. They had an FBS loss, by 10, to freaking Oregon.

My point is simply that the Big Sky, outside the state of Montana, is overrated by both the FCS media and FCS fans in general. What have they ever accomplished on the national scene?

this goes back a few years with me and the profile game is:
any Big Sky team not from the state of Montana vs any decent FCS team not routed to the Dakotas early that will have opportunity to expose those overrated Big Sky teams that play no defense.

So in 2022, a few people on here were saying negative things about Richmond, which included misguided thoughts like Richmond is not a top 25 team… lol. Ridiculous mindset and they got called out.
So come playoff time, Richmond gets an opportunity to head across the country to play undefeated #3 seed Sacramento State (I loved Skattebo) I had watched both teams a lot during the year. My opinion was Sacramento St was just not that much better than Richmond and most importantly, Sac St was not a Montana team. So Richmond, who was lead on offense by two pretty good VMI transfers, jumped out to a 21-7 lead. It was actually 28-7 at one point, but the refs huddled up and decided it would be in the best interest of FCS football to take that Richmond touchdown off the scoreboard. We just can’t have an undefeated Big Sky team getting blown out by a “lukewarm” CAA team on national TV. By the 4th quarter, it was raining hard and the Richmond QB was all banged up and the game literally slipped through the spider web that day. Final Sacramento 38-31

so last year I was begging for another opportunity for one of these profile games and got it with Albany versus a Big Sky team not named Montana or St… I had been talking up Poffenbarger all year long. The Albany win over the once again overrated Sky team had nothing to do with luck as you just need to be better to beat Idaho in that loud aircraft hanger.
To the shock of everyone west of the Mississippi, Albany beat Idaho. Everyone knew they would get a beat down at South Dakota State. That is part of the issue as these really good playoff games need to happen before you end up in the chill bowl or a loud auditorium

Finally it’s today, and if they can beat future conference mate Lehigh, CAA Richmond will have the opportunity to go out to Idaho for another interesting playoff game and beat Idaho. When it happens, it will all be long forgotten by playoff seeding time next year.

[FUBeAR]

My point is simply that the Big Sky, outside the state of Montana, is overrated by both the FCS media and FCS fans in general. What have they ever accomplished on the national scene?

this goes back a few years with me and the profile game is:
any Big Sky team not from the state of Montana vs any decent FCS team not routed to the Dakotas early that will have opportunity to expose those overrated Big Sky teams that play no defense.

So in 2022, a few people on here were saying negative things about Richmond, which included misguided thoughts like Richmond is not a top 25 team… lol. Ridiculous mindset and they got called out.
So come playoff time, Richmond gets an opportunity to head across the country to play undefeated #3 seed Sacramento State (I loved Skattebo) I had watched both teams a lot during the year. My opinion was Sacramento St was just not that much better than Richmond and most importantly, Sac St was not a Montana team. So Richmond, who was lead on offense by two pretty good VMI transfers, jumped out to a 21-7 lead. It was actually 28-7 at one point, but the refs huddled up and decided it would be in the best interest of FCS football to take that Richmond touchdown off the scoreboard. We just can’t have an undefeated Big Sky team getting blown out by a “lukewarm” CAA team on national TV. By the 4th quarter, it was raining hard and the Richmond QB was all banged up and the game literally slipped through the spider web that day. Final Sacramento 38-31

so last year I was begging for another opportunity for one of these profile games and got it with Albany versus a Big Sky team not named Montana or St… I had been talking up Poffenbarger all year long. The Albany win over the once again overrated Sky team had nothing to do with luck as you just need to be better to beat Idaho in that loud aircraft hanger.
To the shock of everyone west of the Mississippi, Albany beat Idaho. Everyone knew they would get a beat down at South Dakota State. That is part of the issue as these really good playoff games need to happen before you end up in the chill bowl or a loud auditorium

Finally it’s today, and if they can beat future conference mate Lehigh, CAA Richmond will have the opportunity to go out to Idaho for another interesting playoff game and beat Idaho. When it happens, it will all be long forgotten by playoff seeding time next year.
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[POD Knows]

My point is simply that the Big Sky, outside the state of Montana, is overrated by both the FCS media and FCS fans in general. What have they ever accomplished on the national scene?

this goes back a few years with me and the profile game is:
any Big Sky team not from the state of Montana vs any decent FCS team not routed to the Dakotas early that will have opportunity to expose those overrated Big Sky teams that play no defense.

So in 2022, a few people on here were saying negative things about Richmond, which included misguided thoughts like Richmond is not a top 25 team… lol. Ridiculous mindset and they got called out.
So come playoff time, Richmond gets an opportunity to head across the country to play undefeated #3 seed Sacramento State (I loved Skattebo) I had watched both teams a lot during the year. My opinion was Sacramento St was just not that much better than Richmond and most importantly, Sac St was not a Montana team. So Richmond, who was lead on offense by two pretty good VMI transfers, jumped out to a 21-7 lead. It was actually 28-7 at one point, but the refs huddled up and decided it would be in the best interest of FCS football to take that Richmond touchdown off the scoreboard. We just can’t have an undefeated Big Sky team getting blown out by a “lukewarm” CAA team on national TV. By the 4th quarter, it was raining hard and the Richmond QB was all banged up and the game literally slipped through the spider web that day. Final Sacramento 38-31

so last year I was begging for another opportunity for one of these profile games and got it with Albany versus a Big Sky team not named Montana or St… I had been talking up Poffenbarger all year long. The Albany win over the once again overrated Sky team had nothing to do with luck as you just need to be better to beat Idaho in that loud aircraft hanger.
To the shock of everyone west of the Mississippi, Albany beat Idaho. Everyone knew they would get a beat down at South Dakota State. That is part of the issue as these really good playoff games need to happen before you end up in the chill bowl or a loud auditorium

Finally it’s today, and if they can beat future conference mate Lehigh, CAA Richmond will have the opportunity to go out to Idaho for another interesting playoff game and beat Idaho. When it happens, it will all be long forgotten by playoff seeding time next year.
Ancient history but EWU won a natty in 2010 and made the Natty in 2018. The CAA minus JMU is not good. We will see what happens this year.

[caribbeanhen]

Ancient history by EWU won a natty in 2010 and made the Natty in 2018. The CAA minus JMU is not good. We will see what happens this year.

I agree that the CAA today is not good which only bolsters my point when talking Idaho, Sac State, N Arizona type teams..... one in the same

wouldn't be surprised at all to see the CAA take it on the chin this Saturday but I think Richmond is the pride of the Conference right now and they are gone next year as well

[UNHWildcat18]

Ancient history by EWU won a natty in 2010 and made the Natty in 2018. The CAA minus JMU is not good. We will see what happens this year.


I mean its all kind of horsehit saying conferences aren't good. I say this because everyone not SDSU or especially NDSU just gets blown the **** out in the semi's or natty.

Since that 2010 EWU game you mention the CAA has been
Champion 2016
Runner up 2010,2013,2017,2019
Semi finalist 2010(2/4), 2013(2/4), 2014,2015,2016,2017,2018,2019,2021(no 2020),2023

That's a lot of CAA teams making it to the final 4 since 2010.....But ultimately everyone regardless of year mostly got whacked by NDSU.

So regardless of conference or depth of run, doesn't matter much anyways. I think NDSU is making a big mistake not moving up. You've won like 9 times. There is nothing left besides winning FCS championships. Stagnation is the death of progress, and you guys cant progress any further at this level.

[FUBeAR]

Richmond is the pride of the Conference
Richmond?

They lost to the tied-for-6th place Team in the SoCon, didn’t they?

Just checkin’

[POD Knows]

I mean its all kind of horsehit saying conferences aren't good. I say this because everyone not SDSU or especially NDSU just gets blown the **** out in the semi's or natty.

Since that 2010 EWU game you mention the CAA has been
Champion 2016
Runner up 2010,2013,2017,2019
Semi finalist 2010(2/4), 2013(2/4), 2014,2015,2016,2017,2018,2019,2021(no 2020),2023

That's a lot of CAA teams making it to the final 4 since 2010.....But ultimately everyone regardless of year mostly got whacked by NDSU.

So regardless of conference or depth of run, doesn't matter much anyways. I think NDSU is making a big mistake not moving up. You've won like 9 times. There is nothing left besides winning FCS championships. Stagnation is the death of progress, and you guys cant progress any further at this level.
Not gonna go back and look but how many of those references were JMU, most of them I am sure. The CAA has been a paper tiger, excluding JMU, for years now.

[cmt]

My point is simply that the Big Sky, outside the state of Montana, is overrated by both the FCS media and FCS fans in general. What have they ever accomplished on the national scene?

You can't just ask what the Big Sky has ever accomplished and then exclude the two most accomplished teams from that. I mean, by that logic what has the MVFC done recently besides NDST and SDST? The last time a MVFC team besides those two made the semis was Youngstown St in 2016. EWU and Weber both have made the semis since then.

You might be right that the Big Sky is overrated. I don't follow enough to make a good counter on that. But the above logic is faulty.

[dbackjon]

Richmond and Lehigh are both better than Idaho

LOL

[dbackjon]

Richmond got jilted

Recent playoff history tells us Idaho should be the team that has to beat Lehigh to earn the right to visit the Spiders

Recent playoff history means nothing.

[caribbeanhen]

You can't just ask what the Big Sky has ever accomplished and then exclude the two most accomplished teams from that. I mean, by that logic what has the MVFC done recently besides NDST and SDST? The last time a MVFC team besides those two made the semis was Youngstown St in 2016. EWU and Weber both have made the semis since then.

You might be right that the Big Sky is overrated. I don't follow enough to make a good counter on that. But the above logic is faulty.

FCS has been dominated by The Montanas and Dakotas for 14 years, it’s these Mt Rushmore teams looking majestically over the rest of the country with confidence knowing nobody will be tearing us down

[UNHWildcat18]

Not gonna go back and look but how many of those references were JMU, most of them I am sure. The CAA has been a paper tiger, excluding JMU, for years now.

JMU was runner up in 2017/2019.


You can replace CAA with anyone that goes deep in the playoffs outside NDSU and SDSU. 99 percent of conferences or teams are "paper tigers" as everyone gets whacked badly. So you kind of prove my point. Take out SDSU and NDSU since 2010 and we wouldn't be having this discussion. We'd probably have a lot of parity..

I see the point you are trying to make.

[semobison]

JMU was runner up in 2017/2019.


You can replace CAA with anyone that goes deep in the playoffs outside NDSU and SDSU. 99 percent of conferences or teams are "paper tigers" as everyone gets whacked badly. So you kind of prove my point. Take out SDSU and NDSU since 2010 and we wouldn't be having this discussion. We'd probably have a lot of parity..

I see the point you are trying to make.

Illinois State and Youngstown have both made the final since 2010. UNI was a top 8-10 team for a long time. Most of the old Valley won playoff games since 2010, SIU, WIU, ISUb, USD and UND even won at least one playoff game. Unfortunately, the mid tier teams in the Valley have not kept up with the Dakota’s!

[POD Knows]

Illinois State and Youngstown have both made the final since 2010. UNI was a top 8-10 team for a long time. Most of the old Valley won playoff games since 2010, SIU, WIU, ISUb, USD and UND even won at least one playoff game. Unfortunately, the mid tier teams in the Valley have not kept up with the Dakota’s!
And the OOC GAME records also favor the valley but that is kind of skewed given some of the drek that are played in order to get more home games.

[ElCid]

Recent playoff history means nothing.

You are correct, but it does mean so much to so many. At least they keep saying so in order to justify their bluster.

[caribbeanhen]

Recent playoff history means nothing.

Well describe recent...

Playoff history tells something which is more than nothing. How many playoff games has the Pioneer, the SWAC and the MEAC won over the past 10 years?

Do you use game history to formulate some idea of who is going to win playoff games?

Will the Bison, South Dakota State and Montana State be big favorites in their first round games?

[caribbeanhen]

Richmond?

They lost to the tied-for-6th place Team in the SoCon, didn’t they?

Just checkin’

And the De Facto Southern Conference Champs of the Colonial City know as William & Mary thanks the Southern Conference for the trophy and allowing the Tribe to finish over .500 as the beat 3 Southern Conference teams this year

Wofford
VMI
Furman

[FUBeAR]

And the De Facto Southern Conference Champs of the Colonial City know as William & Mary thanks the Southern Conference for the trophy and allowing the Tribe to finish over .500 as the beat 3 Southern Conference teams this year

Wofford
VMI
Furman
LOL. Via extremely fortunate timing of the year they scheduled 3 SoCon Teams, the SocialDivision is, indeed, Champs of the bottom 3rd of the SoCon.

We’ll allow them full credit for their Wofford win.

But, Furman was taking a Team Redshirt year this season and VMI is a provisional SoCon Team (SCINO). We like ‘em and their fans a whole lot, so we allow them to think they are actually part of the SoCon. Kinda like when kids think they are steering those little cars at Six Flags that are really on tracks. Of course, the Keydets would prolly finish about 9th or 10th from the bottom of the CAA - in 27th or 28th place.

[SteelSD]

And the De Facto Southern Conference Champs of the Colonial City know as William & Mary thanks the Southern Conference for the trophy and allowing the Tribe to finish over .500 as the beat 3 Southern Conference teams this year

Wofford
VMI
Furman
W&M made the mistake of thinking Furman was a solid program and could sustain success. C’est la vie.

[caribbeanhen]

I agree that the CAA today is not good which only bolsters my point when talking Idaho, Sac State, N Arizona type teams..... one in the same

wouldn't be surprised at all to see the CAA take it on the chin this Saturday but I think Richmond is the pride of the Conference right now and they are gone next year as well

N Arizona down Idaho to go... Let's see Lehigh somehow pull of this miracle and beat Mr Potato Head