Taping History: Patriots Taped Rams' Super Bowl Walk-Through

[JoltinJoe]

Report: Source claims Patriots taped Rams before Super Bowl (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/news/story?id=3227245)

xnonox

If true, time for some reconsideration of the Patriots' "dynasty."

[ngineer]

Arlen Specter (R-PA) was interviewed the other day and there may be further inquiries by Congress in light of the NFL's anti-trust exemption. He made some comments about the same suspicion as to the pre-game versus the Eagles.

[Peems]

Arlen Specter (R-PA) was interviewed the other day and there may be further inquiries by Congress in light of the NFL's anti-trust exemption. He made some comments about the same suspicion as to the pre-game versus the Eagles.

I understand where he is coming from, but no one will take him seriously since he is a die hard eagles fan. On second thought, how cool would it be that once you reach Congress you use your power to help your favorite sports franchise!!

[Peems]

Also reading that article, looks like the NFL "looked into it"

[dbackjon]

NFL would never admit a Super Bowl was fixed/cheating occured. It is their cash cow.

[Cleets]

Report: Source claims Patriots taped Rams before Super Bowl (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/news/story?id=3227245)

xnonox

If true, time for some reconsideration of the Patriots' "dynasty."

Ha Ha Ha Ha .... xlolx
Dream on... they're going to win 3 more Super Bowls over the next 6 years... whatever... (Haters are making me giggle)

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NFL would never admit a Super Bowl was fixed/cheating occured. It is their cash cow.xnodx How many steroid tests did Bonds fail? How many times did Michael Jordan get called for carrying the ball? You get the picture. xsmhx

[Cleets]

Any nobody can get an audience and an article about "How they saw the Patriots Cheat" in 1998 or 2003... Whatever..!!!

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How come nobody (and I mean nobody) talks to Jimmy Johnson Three Time Super Bowl Winning coach about how he and the Dallas Cowboys did the same thing..!!!

The man himself even said it on the air..!!!

I quote: "We'd been doing that exact same thing for years" why isn't that an article..!!!!

[Shellin]

How come nobody (and I mean nobody) talks to Jimmy Johnson Three Time Super Bowl Winning coach about how he and the Dallas Cowboys did the same thing..!!!

A lot of it hinges on the fact that the Patriots were dumb enough to get caught and also that they are going through this process right now where as the Cowboys did it a decade ago so it actually has a bearing on the present.

[Dane96]

I understand where he is coming from, but no one will take him seriously since he is a die hard eagles fan. On second thought, how cool would it be that once you reach Congress you use your power to help your favorite sports franchise!!

Ummm...the man is one of the most powerful men in this country, head of the Judiciary Committee-- people will take him VERY seriously.

[Cleets]

A lot of it hinges on the fact that the Patriots were dumb enough to get caught and also that they are going through this process right now where as the Cowboys did it a decade ago so it actually has a bearing on the present.

It's a Witch Hunt...

xlolx

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It's a Witch Hunt...The Belichick Witch Project! xlolx :D xrolleyesx xcoolx xcoffeex xrulesx xreadx xnonono2x xwhistlex xrolleyesx :D xlolx

[JoltinJoe]

Ha Ha Ha Ha .... xlolx
Dream on... they're going to win 3 more Super Bowls over the next 6 years... whatever... (Haters are making me giggle)

Ah, heck, I'm no hater. Just a teaser -- although you know who has not weighed in yet.

Belichick is a cheater, though, and this no doubt will taint his legacy.

[JoltinJoe]

Any nobody can get an audience and an article about "How they saw the Patriots Cheat" in 1998 or 2003... Whatever..!!!

xlolx

How come nobody (and I mean nobody) talks to Jimmy Johnson Three Time Super Bowl Winning coach about how he and the Dallas Cowboys did the same thing..!!!

The man himself even said it on the air..!!!

I quote: "We'd been doing that exact same thing for years" why isn't that an article..!!!!

I'm happy to place Belichick in the same moral boat as Jimmy Johnson.xlolx

[Col Hogan]

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At first, the haters were fun...now, it's getting boring!!!

Bring me PROOF, counselor, or move on!!!!!!

[JoltinJoe]

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At first, the haters were fun...now, it's getting boring!!!

Bring me PROOF, counselor, or move on!!!!!!

You mean, other than the fact they were caught red-handed intercepting the Jets' signals?

[Col Hogan]

You mean, other than the fact they were caught red-handed intercepting the Jets' signals?

And they have been convicted and sentenced on that...

On these new allegations...present your evidence or move on....

[JoltinJoe]

And they have been convicted and sentenced on that...

On these new allegations...present your evidence or move on....

Well, Brian MacNamee is apparently ready to confirm this. So that should satisfy all of Beantown. xsmiley_wix

(Beware of an angry Eagles fan with federal subpoena power ....)xsmiley_wix

[Col Hogan]

So, if I start questioning the Yankees dynasty since so many of their players are obviously steroid/HGH takers, I'm on solid ground...xnutsx xnutsx xnutsx

[Cleets]

So, if I start questioning the Yankees dynasty since so many of their players are obviously steroid/HGH takers, I'm on solid ground...xnutsx xnutsx xnutsx

Of course you are... it's a fact... the Yankee's cheated...
take back the last 4 rings..xlolx

[Cleets]

I'm happy to place Belichick in the same moral boat as Jimmy Johnson.xlolx

What moral boat would you put Roger Clemens and Andy Pettit xlolx (while you're assessing morality)

[Dane96]

Well, Brian MacNamee is apparently ready to confirm this. So that should satisfy all of Beantown. xsmiley_wix

(Beware of an angry Eagles fan with federal subpoena power ....)xsmiley_wix

Made me laugh this morning!xthumbsupx

[Dane96]

Of course you are... it's a fact... the Yankee's cheated...
take back the last 4 rings..xlolx

They'd still have 22 more to polish.

[JoltinJoe]

Of course you are... it's a fact... the Yankee's cheated...
take back the last 4 rings..xlolx

No member of the 1996, 1998, 1999 or 2000 Yankees -- other than Roger Clemens, who made insigificant contributions to the 1999 and 2000 teams -- used steroids during those years. To the extent any member of those teams were implicated in the Mitchell Report (nine were), the others were implicated for use starting in 2001 or later, and in many instances after they left the Yankees.

As for Clemens, his use of HGH/steroids while a Yankee allegedly started in 2001, according to the Mitchell Report.

The Yankees' problem is that since 2000, certain other teams have benefitted from the contributions of marginal players who overnight were transformed into some of the most feared hitters in the game --cough, cough David Ortizxsmiley_wix

Looking at the public record, the Yankees were the last of the non-PED champions.
xnodx

[JoltinJoe]

What moral boat would you put Roger Clemens and Andy Pettit xlolx (while you're assessing morality)

Poor Andy Pettitte. The guy took two HGH shots while on the DL, and then thought better of it -- and you say he as a big a cheater as let's say, David Ortiz.:p

[Dane96]

YEAH...what he said.

[Dane96]

You know what is funny-- Red Sox fans I am friends with...and believe me, they are hardcore, all expected Ortiz to be implicated. I mean these fans are uber Yankee haters...and the epitome of Red Sox Nation.

Anyway, about an hour before the report comes out they brought up a before and after pick of Ortiz for me-- Even I WAS SHOCKED at the size differential.

My friends were shocked even more than I was when they heard Ortiz somehow escaped the report. To them, however, more shocking was an unnamed certain catcher-- If you have never been around the man, you cant begin to imagine his size.

[JoltinJoe]

You know what is funny-- Red Sox fans I am friends with...and believe me, they are hardcore, all expected Ortiz to be implicated. I mean these fans are uber Yankee haters...and the epitome of Red Sox Nation.

Anyway, about an hour before the report comes out they brought up a before and after pick of Ortiz for me-- Even I WAS SHOCKED at the size differential.

My friends were shocked even more than I was when they heard Ortiz somehow escaped the report. To them, however, more shocking was an unnamed certain catcher-- If you have never been around the man, you cant begin to imagine his size.

Ortiz escaped because Angel Presinal, his trainer, would not talk. Presinal gave a statement to the Mitchell Commission saying he had no knowledge or information about steroid/HGH use in baseball. This was an obvious lie -- Presinal was caught at a Canadian airport in 2002 traveling with a bag of steroids. The bag was confiscated but Presinal was not charged.

If that had happened in the US, though, some AUSA could have threatened Presinal to talk under threat of an indictment.

What is mystifying is that Mitchell conducted no further investigation regarding Presinal after Presinal offered his statement to the Committee. Of course, if you suggest that Mitchell possessed a conflict of interest and this might have contributed to his willingness to leave the Presinal trail cold, Boston fans call you a lunatic and a nut job.

[UNHWildCats]

You mean, other than the fact they were caught red-handed intercepting the Jets' signals?
Belichick was just trying to get all the Jets plays down on paper so he could make and give Eric Mandumbass a nice leather bound playbook for Christmas to make up for how he treated him in 2006 xcoolx

[Col Hogan]

Belichick was just trying to get all the Jets plays down on paper so he could make and give Eric Mandumbass a nice leather bound playbook for Christmas to make up for how he treated him in 2006 xcoolx
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[Cleets]

This has been my favorite thread xnodx ...
New York fans can't stand seeing Boston win (over and over again) it's so painful...
so when given the chance to pile on... xlolx

The Giants can make up for a lot of bad feelings and emotional heart ache today with a win...


This should be a good game

[JoltinJoe]

This has been my favorite thread xnodx ...
New York fans can't stand seeing Boston win (over and over again) it's so painful...
so when given the chance to pile on... xlolx

The Giants can make up for a lot of bad feelings and emotional heart ache today with a win...


This should be a good game

Hah! We still have better theater, museums, and culture. xwhistlex

[Col Hogan]

Hah! We still have better theater, museums, and culture. xwhistlex

Who's this We, Kimo Sabay??? Don't you live in Jersey???? :p :D

[JoltinJoe]

Who's this We, Kimo Sabay??? Don't you live in Jersey???? :p :D

No, live in New York. Main work office is New Jersey.

Although my house is about a nine iron from Mahwah.

This is the view, BTW, of the greatest city in the world from the highest point of Suffern. Pretty darn cool.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/af/Manhattan.jpg/800px-Manhattan.jpg

[Col Hogan]

I drive the area often, heading home...I use the Tappen Zee...

[Cleets]

Manhattan is one of my favorite places... xnodx

[Peems]

Kurt Warner is going to use his connection with Jesus to bring some wrath down on the Pats today!!!

[Cleets]

Kurt Warner is going to use his connection with Jesus to bring some wrath down on the Pats today!!!

That remains to be seen... xcoffeex
Terrifying thought though..!!!!

[Cleets]

Hah! We still have better theater, museums, and culture. xwhistlex

And now you have the G-Men as Super Bowl Champs..!!!! (well done)
They looked awesome, that was an amazing game (enjoy this) but go easy on Travis...xpeacex

[Go...gate]

Great game and maybe we can put all of the Spygate hoo-hah to rest. The Pats earned three titles and deserved them all. They were beaten by a great effort this evening.

[Peems]

Kurt Warner is going to use his connection with Jesus to bring some wrath down on the Pats today!!!

Thanks Kurt and thanks also go out to Jesus for his miraculous intervention he had with Eli!

[Pards Rule]

Ummm...the man is one of the most powerful men in this country, head of the Judiciary Committee-- people will take him VERY seriously.

Actually former head of Judiciary (but still ranking minority member)..Sen Pat Leahy (D, VT) is the head. Control changed in 2007 after the Dems won the Senate in 2006. So Dane, is Vermont Patriot territory? Actually, Leahy and Spector are good friends.

[JoltinJoe]

They looked awesome, that was an amazing game (enjoy this) but go easy on Travis...xpeacex

I do all my teasing before the game. xthumbsupx

Travis is a great, great fan and I admire his passion for his hometown teams. What fun is sports if you can't have a little fun with fans of the opponents?

Pitchers and catchers report soon.

xthumbsupx