FCS STATS Poll, 10/07/24

[kdinva]

https://theanalyst.com/na/2024/10/stats-perform-fcs-top-25-poll-week-6

1. South Dakota State (4-1, 1–0 MVFC), 1,376 points (36 of 56 first-place votes)
Previous Ranking: 1; Week 6: 41-3 win at Northern Iowa; Week 7: Youngstown State

2. North Dakota State (5-1, 2-0 MVFC), 1,346 (14)
Previous Ranking:2; Week 6: 41-17 win over then-No. 7North Dakota; Week 7: at Southern Illinois

3. Montana State (6-0, 2-0 Big Sky), 1,309 (6)
Previous Ranking: 3; Week 6: 55-17 win over Northern Colorado; Week 7: No. 7 Idaho

4. South Dakota (4-1, 2-0 MVFC), 1,220
Previous Ranking: 4; Week 6: 59-0 win at Murray State; Week 7: Northern Iowa

5. Villanova (5-1, 2-0 CAA), 1,145
Previous Ranking: 6; Week 6: 42-24 win at Stony Brook; Week 7: No game

6. UC Davis (5-1, 2-0 Big Sky), 1,084
Previous Ranking: 9; Week 6: 27-26 win at Portland State; Week 7: Cal Poly

7. Idaho (4-2, 1-1 Big Sky), 1,062
Previous Ranking: 10; Week 6: 23-17 win over then-No. 25 Northern Arizona; Week 7: at No. 3 Montana State

8. Mercer (5-0, 3-0 SoCon), 939
Previous Ranking:11; Week 6: No game; Week 7: Princeton

9. North Dakota (4-2, 1-1 MVFC), 869
Previous Ranking: 7; Week 6: 41-17 loss atthen-No. 2 North Dakota State; Week 7: No game

10. Abilene Christian (4-2, 3-0 UAC), 854
Previous Ranking:16; Week 6: 41-25 win over then-No. 5 Central Arkansas; Week 7: at North Alabama

11. Southeast Missouri (5-1, 2-0 Big South-OVC), 840
Previous Ranking: 13; Week 6: 38-27 win at Eastern Illinois; Week 7: Tennessee Tech

12. Central Arkansas (4-2, 1-1 UAC), 795
Previous Ranking: 5; Week 6: 41-34 loss at then-No. 16 Abilene Christian; Week 7: West Georgia

13. Tarleton State (5-1, 2-0 UAC), 717
Previous Ranking: 14; Week 6: 38-37 OT win at Southern Utah; Week 7: Utah Tech

14. Montana (4-2, 1-1 Big Sky), 683
Previous Ranking: 8; Week 6: 55-48 OT loss to Weber State; Week 7: No. 24 Northern Arizona

15. UIW (3-2, 0-0 Southland), 662
Previous Ranking: 15; Week 6: 56-28 win over Prairie View A&M; Week 7: Nicholls

16. Illinois State (4-2, 1-1 MVFC), 532
Previous Ranking: 18; Week 6: 45-10 win at then-No. 19 Southern Illinois; Week 7: Missouri State

17. William & Mary (4-2, 1-1 CAA), 442
Previous Ranking: 12; Week 6: 34-27 loss at Towson; Week 7: No game

18. Sacramento State (2-3, 0-1 Big Sky), 404
Previous Ranking: 17; Week 6: No game; Week 7: Eastern Washington

19. Rhode Island (4-1, 2-0 CAA), 359
Previous Ranking: 20; Week 6: 46-44 two-OT win at Hampton; Week 7: Brown

20. Weber State (3-3, 2-0 Big Sky), 252
Previous Ranking: NR; Week 6: 55-48 OT win at then-No. 8 Montana; Week 7: Northern Colorado

21. Richmond (4-2, 2-0 CAA), 229
Previous Ranking: NR; Week 6: 20-17 win over North Carolina A&T; Week 7: No game

22. Lamar (3-2, 0-0 Southland), 206
Previous Ranking:24; Week 6: No game; Week 7: Stephen F. Austin

23. Chattanooga (2-3, 1-1 SoCon), 166
Previous Ranking: NR; Week 6: 17-10 win at then-No. 23 ETSU; Week 7: at Furman

24. Northern Arizona (3-3, 1-1 Big Sky), 101
Previous Ranking: 25; Week 6: 23-17 loss at then-No. 4 Idaho; Week 7: at No. 14 Montana

25. North Carolina Central (4-2, 2-0 MEAC), 85
Previous Ranking:NR; Week 6: 45-14 win at Campbell; Week 7: Virginia-Lynchburg

Dropped Out: Southern Illinois (19), New Hampshire (21), McNeese (22), ETSU (23)

Others Receiving Votes (schools listed on two or more ballots): Florida A&M (3-2, 1-0 SWAC), 67; ETSU (3-3, 1-1 SoCon), 58; McNeese (4-3, 1-1 Southland), 49; Southern Illinois (2-4, 0-2 MVFC), 47; Dartmouth (3-0, 1-0 Ivy), 45; Lafayette (3-2, 1-0 Patriot), 37; Stony Brook (4-2, 1-1 CAA), 32; UT Martin (3-3, 1-1 Big South-OVC), 27; Western Carolina (2-3, 1-0 SoCon), 26; Duquesne (3-2, 1-0 NEC), 25; Nicholls (2-3, 0-0 Southland), 21; New Hampshire (3-2, 1-0 CAA), 16; Towson (2-3, 1-1 CAA), 15; Houston Christian (3-3, 1-0 Southland), 12; Butler (5-0, 1-0 Pioneer), 7; Harvard (2-1, 0-1 Ivy), 7; Monmouth (3-3, 1-1 CAA), 6; Tennessee State (4-2, 2-1 Big South-OVC), 6

[caribbeanhen]

UNH getting more ORV than Harvard

the trend continues

[MUHAWKS]

CAA vastly over ranked and that includes teams RV- although I will say I think there are 2 teams, Monmouth and Towson who are both better than 2 CAA ranked teams, URI and Richmond. Stony Brook being "32nd" is laughable- we already sort of agreed where u start matters even if we dont agree with it-- DB barely fell for an 18 pt loss to Nova while Monmouth goes from 4th or 5th best RV team to next to last for taking Del to the wire

[ElCid]

CAA vastly over ranked and that includes teams RV- although I will say I think there are 2 teams, Monmouth and Towson who are both better than 2 CAA ranked teams, URI and Richmond. Stony Brook being "32nd" is laughable- we already sort of agreed where u start matters even if we dont agree with it-- DB barely fell for an 18 pt loss to Nova while Monmouth goes from 4th or 5th best RV team to next to last for taking Del to the wire

I think it's still has to do with those first two losses as to why Monmouth is lagging. And a close loss is still a loss. And people are pretty much ignoring Delaware in their calculations. Monmouth is definitely on my close watch list.

[MUHAWKS]

I think it's still has to do with those first two losses as to why Monmouth is lagging. And a close loss is still a loss. And people are pretty much ignoring Delaware in their calculations. Monmouth is definitely on my close watch list.

100% right, but do we really think URI is a true top 20 team? do we think Stony Brook is the 32nd best team in FCS? Richmond? Although I myself really like Towson and am scared of them, they are getting moved up vastly b/c they beat W&M, another CAA team- Just saying I think the CAA gets over rated at times but the again the spots have to be filled with someone..

[KPSUL]

UNH getting more ORV than Harvard

the trend continues

Truly a profound observation. By all means let's fixate our attention on unranked teams, everything else in the Top 25 is so perfectly aligned there really is nothing worth commenting on.

[MUHAWKS]

Truly a profound observation. By all means let's fixate our attention on unranked teams, everything else in the Top 25 is so perfectly aligned there really is nothing worth commenting on.


LOL x 1000- facts KPSUL

[KPSUL]

100% right, but do we really think URI is a true top 20 team?

Yes. They are 4-1, with their only loss coming against a Big10 team that just beat #11 FBS, USC. There are teams with losing records ranked in the Top 25 Polls.

[caribbeanhen]

Truly a profound observation. By all means let's fixate our attention on unranked teams, everything else in the Top 25 is so perfectly aligned there really is nothing worth commenting on.

It’s a long term trend with the Ivies in these polls, UNH just got in the way this week

[MUHAWKS]

Yes. They are 4-1, with their only loss coming against a Big10 team that just beat #11 FBS, USC. There are teams with losing records ranked in the Top 25 Polls.

Maybe, but eye test/gun to head and SOS URI seems to be getting extra love b/c of 2 things- and they are things that have been in place for a while and yes seem like will not change. The first is "where you start" which should be partly valid but ever fully and the second is name brand recognition and CAA. But only for the "old" or recently good CAA teams. The only thing different between Stony Brook and URI at this point is that SB has played an extra game allowing a second loss- both losses- were against either FBS and then top 5 ranked Nova. They both beat Campbell. URI beat 0-6 LIU by 1 score, and an average HC team last minute and eeded 3 OT to beat Hampton. SB 4 wins are 100% comparable to URI yet before the pretty competitive loss to Nova was not ranked or really close to it solely for reasons I stated above. How about Duquesne? while I do NOT think Monmouth should be ranked, I think it is a VERY legitimate argument that our results even at 3-3 show a much better team than URI's does at 4-1. If we were an older CAA team with a "'name" we would get the benefit of the doubt like the schools you say who have losing records in top 25 OR schools like URI who are basically unproven. It does not matter this early but it will matter late as I have to imagine polls will have some bearing on at large bids. I am not saying URI is bad or it is their fault I am saying if they are the 19th best team in FCS then The FCS sucks. Duquesne would have to win out to get ranked 19th even though already have a top 25 win and 2 FBS losses only. If Monmouth beats Bryant and Towson and gets to 5-3 with 2 of the losses coming against a ranked and would be ranked team, both by 1 score plus an FBS win and 2 blowout wins, I guarantee you we will not be ranked 19th and most likely not even ranked. Even Towson has an argument- competitive game against Maryland, rivalry game win, 1 pt loss to top 5 Nova, competitive on road against 2nd ranked NDSU and a top 12 win against W&M. Yes, I am talking in circles and sound like a baby but teams should be ranked on how good they are which incorporates wins, types of wins, how they lost, SOS not just a record against weaker/average. If you had a gun to your head and someone said pick the winner on a neutral filed of URI/MU or URI/Duquesne or URI/Towson would you feel comfortable picking URI?

[ElCid]

The first is "where you start" which should be partly valid but ever fully and the second is name brand recognition and CAA. But only for the "old" or recently good CAA teams. The only thing different between Stony Brook and URI at this point is that SB has played an extra game allowing a second loss- both losses- were against either FBS and then top 5 ranked Nova. They both beat Campbell. URI beat 0-6 LIU by 1 score, and an average HC team last minute and eeded 3 OT to beat Hampton. SB 4 wins are 100% comparable to URI yet before the pretty competitive loss to Nova was not ranked or really close to it solely for reasons I stated above. How about Duquesne? while I do NOT think Monmouth should be ranked, I think it is a VERY legitimate argument that our results even at 3-3 show a much better team than URI's does at 4-1. If we were an older CAA team with a "'name" we would get the benefit of the doubt like the schools you say who have losing records in top 25 OR schools like URI who are basically unproven.

I think you are looking at it through a Monmouth lens a little. I have no bias about Monmouth compared to RI because they are an old name. At least in regard to the AGS poll. However, you are probably right in that there are quite a lot of CAA voters and they may have that bias. How this plays out in the Stats poll would be interesting to know. Your points about SOS and results are all valid though. I haven't seen Monmouth play yet so it's hard to gauge if it's deserved or not. All I got is the box scores to consider. Objectively, at #32 in Massey, they should be getting more attention probably. But RI Is at #25.....

[caribbeanhen]

Brown might pull back the curtain on Rhode Island this Saturday .... I took Brown in the pick em on slight upset call, could be one I regret but Rhode Island ain't that good

[MUHAWKS]

I think you are looking at it through a Monmouth lens a little. I have no bias about Monmouth compared to RI because they are an old name. At least in regard to the AGS poll. However, you are probably right in that there are quite a lot of CAA voters and they may have that bias. How this plays out in the Stats poll would be interesting to know. Your points about SOS and results are all valid though. I haven't seen Monmouth play yet so it's hard to gauge if it's deserved or not. All I got is the box scores to consider. Objectively, at #32 in Massey, they should be getting more attention probably. But RI Is at #25.....

you noticed huh? LOL- I did include 2 other teams and hypotheticals to be fair..Look at where albany "started" based on "last year"-- huge mistake-- the thing is even if URI validates it, there is still an advantage to teams who start ranked higher who may not deserve it. I know there is no 100% fair way to do this, but if you are 15-20 and really only there based on "Caa" and "name" then lose 2 of 3, then win 2 of 3 and finish with 4 losses, 99% of the time you will be ahead of teams who started nowhere and finish with the same record but better resume IF you are a non- loved team. Bascially I just think The Caa is overrated- lots of decent teams- Not much to work with but look at us against EwU we got smoked sort of.. Ewu will be lucky to finish .500 in The Big Sky and yet we played to within 1-2 plays of our leagues probable best team (who is inelible).. we beat a team by 30 (maine) who beat a team (albany) who was ranked after 3-4 weeks! I dont care THAT much, but it is every single year and it will matter to a few teams who get left out..

[MUHAWKS]

Brown might pull back the curtain on Rhode Island this Saturday .... I took Brown in the pick em on slight upset call, could be one I regret but Rhode Island ain't that good



agree with this (obviously) ; IVY is jekyl and hyde and maybe a bit down this year but Brown did beat Harvard who beat UNH- then again BRYANT beat Brown (jekyl and hyde)..

[caribbeanhen]

agree with this (obviously) ; IVY is jekyl and hyde and maybe a bit down this year but Brown did beat Harvard who beat UNH- then again BRYANT beat Brown (jekyl and hyde)..


Shhhhhhh

KPSUL might not have taken his St Johns wort yet