AGS Top 25 - How They Fared - Week 6, Fall 2024

[Preferred Walk-On]

Without further ado, I present to you this week's How They Fared. CLICK HERE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15jLE-R4T21YCk0d_iHIaQ6zHXxgm4qSUiwLyPMquLSA/edit?usp=sharing) to see what happened in games involving the top tier of FCS football and be sure to share your thoughts on how this might affect consideration of rankings by posting in this thread.

[smilo]

Big struggle for me to find a 25th team this week. And that's after solidly adding Towson and retaining NAU.

Leaning towards one of Nicholls, Lamar, Weber, and Western - but those are not good options. I would do Weber in spite of the 'fluky' H2H if it wasn't for a second egregious 'fluky' loss. I don't want to reward Nicholls for nothing when they have a "Prove it or lose it" game next week. Lamar's metrics are abominable with two ugly wins. Western was dismantled by Campbell across the board and was lucky it was so close.

The five CAA teams vying for fourth best (yes, Rhode Island and Richmond should be out - their week's results are uglier than UNH's) have resumes even worse than that lot, even if the computers like them. Nice result for Monmouth but the defense is abysmal. Stony Brook certainly isn't back yet.

Wofford has to be behind Western and 3 consecutive losses is too many.
Dartmouth, FAMU and Jackson State need to beat somebody.
Hard no on Lafayette, EKU and NCCU from the ORV section.

Open to convincing if one of these teams has good excuses for future performance being better.

[Puddin Tane]

Well, i dont see how you why you would put Weber ahead of Lamar, we beat em.

heres my Lamar insider input…

we start playing like we did in conference last year, we could win out. We keep playing like we have this year, we could lose out.

thats there is some high quality info!

[MTfan4life]

Well, i dont see how you why you would put Weber ahead of Lamar, we beat em.

heres my Lamar insider input…

we start playing like we did in conference last year, we could win out. We keep playing like we have this year, we could lose out.

thats there is some high quality info!

Watch out for Houston Christian. Their defense looked pretty solid today and have only lost to Tarleton and two FBS teams. Granted, now that I say this, they'll get dusted by SELA next week, but they played well today.

[smilo]

Well, i dont see how you why you would put Weber ahead of Lamar, we beat em.

heres my Lamar insider input…

we start playing like we did in conference last year, we could win out. We keep playing like we have this year, we could lose out.

thats there is some high quality info!

I hear you, I did earlier in the season. A 1 point win at home can't be the end-all, be-all when you just nick Texas Southern and win so unconvincingly against the worst team in Division 1. We have enough observations now. Weber is Massey 20 and Lamar is Massey 60, and it's hardly all explained by preseason expectations.

I don't feel great about it, but I do think it's down to those two

[Puddin Tane]

Massey…cant figure that out . Alot like AGS. Much of the ranking is the “ive heard of them” component. Weber above both mcneese and lamar?

and…..Id go with Nicholls. Yeah, they got stomped at sac st. That was a hurricane week for them. They are starting to roll. Big game vs uiw this week.

[Outsider1]

Ok, had to adjust my earlier thought on NAU once I started going through everything this week.

[taper]

This is awful. Top 3 is easy, top 10 manageable. Beyond that I might as well draw names out of a hat.

[grizband]

Montana is a Top 10 offense, with a bottom 10 offense... honestly not sure where to place them but it will definitely be down lol

[Chalupa Batman]

This is awful. Top 3 is easy, top 10 manageable. Beyond that I might as well draw names out of a hat.

This is almost exactly how I felt. From about 14 or so through 25 could go in about any order.

[caribbeanhen]

Monmouth has beat FBS FIU and gave 5-0 Delaware all they could handle, high powered offense with some of the best skill players in FCS

[ursus arctos horribilis]

An hour left to get your votes in peops so get on it!

[Professor Chaos]

Monmouth has beat FBS FIU and gave 5-0 Delaware all they could handle, high powered offense with some of the best skill players in FCS
They also gave Eastern Washington their only win of the season so far. ;)

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Montana is a Top 10 offense, with a bottom 10 offense... honestly not sure where to place them but it will definitely be down lol

Well, get that vote in now gb cuz it's getting down to the wire.

[Preferred Walk-On]

They also gave Eastern Washington their only win of the season so far. ;)
I agree with you, but Montana also almost gave them their 2nd win. xeyebrowx

[MSUBobcat]

I agree with you, but Montana also almost gave them their 2nd win. xeyebrowx

Does that say more about EWU or Montana. xeyebrowx Since that disastrous 2nd half vs UND, the Griz defense has been extremely porous (excluding thumping a weaker PFL team of course). Gave up 35 to WCU, trailing for the first 40 minutes of the game. Gave up 49 to a bad EWU team. Gave up 55 to BBQ (48 pts in regulation). From the 2nd half of the UND game (excluding Morehead, i.e. teams with a pulse), they've given up nearly 11pts/quarter (152 pts over 3.5 games). The game vs NAU this weekend is very intriguing now.

[Preferred Walk-On]

Does that say more about EWU or Montana. xeyebrowx Since that disastrous 2nd half vs UND, the Griz defense has been extremely porous (excluding thumping a weaker PFL team of course). Gave up 35 to WCU, trailing for the first 40 minutes of the game. Gave up 49 to a bad EWU team. Gave up 55 to BBQ (48 pts in regulation). From the 2nd half of the UND game (excluding Morehead, i.e. teams with a pulse), they've given up nearly 11pts/quarter (152 pts over 3.5 games). The game vs NAU this weekend is very intriguing now.
I think it says more about Montana, as per my rankings this week. I agree that Northern Arizona @ Montana should be one to watch this week.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Does that say more about EWU or Montana. xeyebrowx Since that disastrous 2nd half vs UND, the Griz defense has been extremely porous (excluding thumping a weaker PFL team of course). Gave up 35 to WCU, trailing for the first 40 minutes of the game. Gave up 49 to a bad EWU team. Gave up 55 to BBQ (48 pts in regulation). From the 2nd half of the UND game (excluding Morehead, i.e. teams with a pulse), they've given up nearly 11pts/quarter (152 pts over 3.5 games). The game vs NAU this weekend is very intriguing now.

We've been porous all year, we are severely exploitable at the third level, somewhat exploitable at the 2nd, and we are decent on the line because of a standout right now. We have lost the ability to tackle, and are normally not in a position to make the tackle if the Griz could wrap up. We could get better but we are not the Griz D from last year or even the previous few years. If our Offense was not holding on to the ball as long as they are it would be even more evident how tough things are on that side of the ball...right now. If the inexperience goes away there is a lot of talent but not sure if talent is gonna win that race at this point.

[uofmman1122]

We've been porous all year, we are severely exploitable at the third level, somewhat exploitable at the 2nd, and we are decent on the line because of a standout right now. We have lost the ability to tackle, and are normally not in a position to make the tackle if the Griz could wrap up. We could get better but we are not the Griz D from last year or even the previous few years. If our Offense was not holding on to the ball as long as they are it would be even more evident how tough things are on that side of the ball...right now. If the inexperience goes away there is a lot of talent but not sure if talent is gonna win that race at this point.
I honestly think it's inexperience mixed with a lack of talent compared to previous seasons. I don't think any of our current new starters would start on any previous year's teams. Our LB and Safety core is the worst it's been since Bobby came back, and without Gubner, this defense is just not on the same level.

[MSUBobcat]

We've been porous all year, we are severely exploitable at the third level, somewhat exploitable at the 2nd, and we are decent on the line because of a standout right now. We have lost the ability to tackle, and are normally not in a position to make the tackle if the Griz could wrap up. We could get better but we are not the Griz D from last year or even the previous few years. If our Offense was not holding on to the ball as long as they are it would be even more evident how tough things are on that side of the ball...right now. If the inexperience goes away there is a lot of talent but not sure if talent is gonna win that race at this point.

At least Robbie Hauck is still racking up double digit tackles, amirite xsmiley_wix

[uofmman1122]

At least Robbie Hauck is still racking up double digit tackles, amirite xsmiley_wix
Jokes aside, we would be a much better defense if Robby was still playing safety for us.

[ElCid]

Does that say more about EWU or Montana. xeyebrowx Since that disastrous 2nd half vs UND, the Griz defense has been extremely porous (excluding thumping a weaker PFL team of course). Gave up 35 to WCU, trailing for the first 40 minutes of the game. Gave up 49 to a bad EWU team. Gave up 55 to BBQ (48 pts in regulation). From the 2nd half of the UND game (excluding Morehead, i.e. teams with a pulse), they've given up nearly 11pts/quarter (152 pts over 3.5 games). The game vs NAU this weekend is very intriguing now.

Your first question is on a lot of people's mind.

And don't take this wrong, but I find the Big Sky has an issue with defense, in general. Huge amount of points being scored in lots of their games. Not all, but most. I look at the two BS/SOCON games and it stands out that both UTC and WCU scored more points in their BS games than any of their other games. That may be due to familiarity of their other opponents, but maybe not. Not conclusive, and the BS offenses are no doubt good, but in the games I have watched, there does seem to be a defense issue.

[caribbeanhen]

Watch out for Houston Christian. Their defense looked pretty solid today and have only lost to Tarleton and two FBS teams. Granted, now that I say this, they'll get dusted by SELA next week, but they played well today.

right you were MTfan