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kdinva
September 23rd, 2024, 12:01 PM
https://theanalyst.com/na/2024/09/stats-perform-fcs-top-25-poll-southland-uiw-lamar

1. South Dakota State (3-1, 0–0 MVFC), 1,379 points (40 of 56 first-place votes)
Previous Ranking: 1; Week 4: 41-0 win at Southeastern Louisiana; Week 5: No game
2. North Dakota State (3-1, 0-0 MVFC), 1,308 (5)
Previous Ranking: 2; Week 4: 41-24 win over Towson; Week 5: at No. 18 Illinois State
3. Montana State (4-0, 0-0 Big Sky), 1,295 (6)
Previous Ranking: 3; Week 4: 52-13 win over Mercyhurst; Week 5: at Idaho State
4. Idaho (3-1, 0-0 Big Sky), 1,272 (5)
Previous Ranking: 4; Week 4: 27-24 win at then-No. 19 Abilene Christian; Week 5: at No. 14 UC Davis
5. South Dakota (2-1, 0-0 MVFC), 1,137
Previous Ranking: 6; Week 4: 42-3 win over Drake; Week 5: No. 17 Southern Illinois
6. Villanova (3-1, 1-0 CAA), 1,070
Previous Ranking: 5; Week 4: 38-20 loss at Maryland; Week 5: LIU
7. Central Arkansas (3-1, 1-0 UAC), 1,008
Previous Ranking: 8; Week 4: 56-17 win at Arkansas-Pine Bluff; Week 5: No. 19 Lamar
8. Montana (3-1, 0-0 Big Sky), 993
Previous Ranking: 9; Week 4: 46-35 win over then-No. 24 Western Carolina; Week 5: at Eastern Washington
9. North Dakota (3-1, 0-0 MVFC), 959
Previous Ranking: 10; Week 4: 41-24 win over San Diego; Week 5: Murray State
10. Sacramento State (2-2, 0-0 Big Sky), 912
Previous Ranking: 11 Week 4: 34-0 win at Texas A&M-Commerce; Week 5: at Northern Arizona
11. William & Mary (3-1, 0-0 CAA), 798
Previous Ranking: 12; Week 4: 34-24 win over Furman; Week 5: Hampton
12. Mercer (4-0, 2-0 SoCon), 699
Previous Ranking: 14; Week 4: 38-21 win over The Citadel; Week 5: at No. 23 Wofford
13. Southeast Missouri (3-1, 1-0 Big South-OVC), 691
Previous Ranking: 21; Week 4: 38-21 win at then-No. 7 Southern Illinois; Week 5: Northwestern State
14. UC Davis (3-1, 0-0 Big Sky), 681
Previous Ranking: 13; Week 4: 32-14 win over Utah Tech; Week 5: No. 4 Idaho
15. UIW (2-2, 0-0 Southland), 574
Previous Ranking: 15; Week 4: 38-14 win over Northern Arizona; Week 5: No game
16. Tarleton State (3-1, 1-0 UAC), 568
Previous Ranking: 16; Week 4: 28-14 win at North Alabama; Week 5: Southeastern Louisiana
17. Southern Illinois (2-2, 0-0 MVFC), 549
Previous Ranking: 7; Week 4: 38-21 loss to then-No. 21 Southeast Missouri; Week 5: at No. 5 South Dakota
18. Illinois State (3-1, 0-0 MVFC), 524
Previous Ranking: 17; Week 4: 31-7 win over Eastern Illinois; Week 5: No. 2 North Dakota State
19. Lamar (3-1, 0-0 Southland), 284
Previous Ranking: 22; Week 4: 20-17 win over Texas Southern; Week 5: at No. 7 Central Arkansas
20. Abilene Christian (2-2, 1-0 UAC), 276
Previous Ranking: 19; Week 4: 27-24 loss to then-No. 4Idaho; Week 5: at Utah Tech
21. UAlbany (1-2, 0-0 CAA), 198
Previous Ranking: 20; Week 4: No game; Week 5: Maine
22. Rhode Island (3-1, 1-0 CAA), 128
Previous Ranking: NR; Week 4: 28-21 win at LIU; Week 5: No game
23. Wofford (2-1, 0-0 SoCon), 103
Previous Ranking: NR; Week 4: No game; Week 5: No. 12 Mercer
24. New Hampshire (3-1, 1-0 CAA), 101
Previous Ranking: NR; Week 4: 38-17 win over Bryant; Week 5: No game
25. Weber State (2-2, 1-0 Big Sky), 94
Previous Ranking: 20; Week 4: 39-0 win at Northwestern State; Week 5: McNeese
Dropped Out: Lafayette (18), Chattanooga (23), Western Carolina (24), Northern Iowa (25)
Others Receiving Votes (schools listed on two or more ballots): Chattanooga (0-3, 0-1 SoCon) 80; ETSU (2-2, 0-0 SoCon) 75; Northern Iowa (2-2, 0-0 MVFC) 73; Richmond (2-2, 0-0 CAA) 72; Lafayette (2-2, 0-0 Patriot) 51; Western Carolina (1-3, 0-0 SoCon) 47; Florida A&M (2-2, 0-0 SWAC) 43; North Carolina Central (2-2, 0-0 MEAC) 28; Columbia (1-0, 0-0 Ivy) 21; Harvard (1-0, 0-0 Ivy) 19; McNeese (3-2, 1-0 Southland) 18; Duquesne (2-2, 0-0 NEC) 12; Nicholls (1-3, 0-0 Southland) 12; Lehigh (3-1, 0-0 Patriot) 10; Stony Brook (3-1, 1-0 CAA) 9; Monmouth (2-2, 1-0 CAA) 4; Yale (1-0, 0-0 Ivy) 3
MSUBobcat
September 23rd, 2024, 12:37 PM
Not getting the Tarleton State love. They have a 3pt home win over a much-improved McNeese team and 2 wins over teams with no DI wins.
Albany too high, riding last year's coat tails.
I'm gonna beat this UNI-getting-votesd drum every week. A big win over PFL Valpo. A squeaker over St. Thomas (lost to a DII and Lindenwood just thumped them 64-0, anyone voting for Lindenwood??). Blown out by Hawaii (Delaware State's margin of defeat was 8 points less, anyone have Delaware State anywhere near their top 25??).
I don't know that Weber deserves a spot for 2 big wins over teams with exactly zero wins and a close loss @ Lamar (who I'm glad is getting some love with 3 wins and a nice showing against Texas State).

And now to take a look at the coaches' poll.... xcrazyx
Outsider1
September 23rd, 2024, 12:41 PM
Not getting the Tarleton State love. They have a 3pt home win over a much-improved McNeese team and 2 wins over teams with no DI wins.
Albany too high, riding last year's coat tails.
I'm gonna beat this UNI-getting-votesd drum every week. A big win over PFL Valpo. A squeaker over St. Thomas (lost to a DII and Lindenwood just thumped them 64-0, anyone voting for Lindenwood??). Blown out by Hawaii (Delaware State's margin of defeat was 8 points less, anyone have Delaware State anywhere near their top 25??).
I don't know that Weber deserves a spot for 2 big wins over teams with exactly zero wins and a close loss @ Lamar (who I'm glad is getting some love with 3 wins and a nice showing against Texas State).

And now to take a look at the coaches' poll.... xcrazyx

I thought about sneaking them in to my AGS poll, but couldn't justify it. I did add Missouri St.
Panther Dad
September 23rd, 2024, 01:52 PM
https://theanalyst.com/na/2024/09/stats-perform-fcs-top-25-poll-southland-uiw-lamar

1. South Dakota State (3-1, 0–0 MVFC), 1,379 points (40 of 56 first-place votes)
Previous Ranking: 1; Week 4: 41-0 win at Southeastern Louisiana; Week 5: No game
2. North Dakota State (3-1, 0-0 MVFC), 1,308 (5)
Previous Ranking: 2; Week 4: 41-24 win over Towson; Week 5: at No. 18 Illinois State
3. Montana State (4-0, 0-0 Big Sky), 1,295 (6)
Previous Ranking:3; Week 4: 52-13 win overMercyhurst; Week 5: at Idaho State
4. Idaho (3-1, 0-0 Big Sky), 1,272 (5)
Previous Ranking: 4; Week 4: 27-24 win at then-No. 19 Abilene Christian; Week 5: at No. 14 UC Davis
5. South Dakota (2-1, 0-0 MVFC), 1,137
Previous Ranking: 6; Week 4: 42-3 win over Drake; Week 5: No. 17 Southern Illinois
6. Villanova (3-1, 1-0 CAA), 1,070
Previous Ranking: 5; Week 4: 38-20 loss at Maryland; Week 5: LIU
7. Central Arkansas (3-1, 1-0 UAC), 1,008
Previous Ranking: 8; Week 4: 56-17 win at Arkansas-Pine Bluff; Week 5: No. 19 Lamar
8. Montana (3-1, 0-0 Big Sky), 993
Previous Ranking:9; Week 4: 46-35 win overthen-No. 24Western Carolina; Week 5: at Eastern Washington
9. North Dakota (3-1, 0-0 MVFC), 959
Previous Ranking: 10; Week 4: 41-24 win over San Diego; Week 5: Murray State
10. Sacramento State (2-2, 0-0 Big Sky), 912
Previous Ranking: 11 Week 4: 34-0 win at Texas A&M-Commerce; Week 5: at Northern Arizona
11. William & Mary (3-1, 0-0 CAA), 798
Previous Ranking: 12; Week 4: 34-24 win over Furman; Week 5: Hampton
12. Mercer (4-0, 2-0 SoCon), 699
Previous Ranking: 14; Week 4: 38-21 win over The Citadel; Week 5: at No. 23 Wofford
13. Southeast Missouri (3-1, 1-0 Big South-OVC), 691
Previous Ranking: 21; Week 4: 38-21 win at then-No. 7 Southern Illinois; Week 5: Northwestern State
14. UC Davis (3-1, 0-0 Big Sky), 681
Previous Ranking: 13; Week 4: 32-14 win over Utah Tech; Week 5: No. 4 Idaho
15. UIW (2-2, 0-0 Southland), 574
Previous Ranking: 15; Week 4: 38-14 win over Northern Arizona; Week 5: No game
16. Tarleton State (3-1, 1-0 UAC), 568
Previous Ranking: 16; Week 4: 28-14 win at North Alabama; Week 5: Southeastern Louisiana
17. Southern Illinois (2-2, 0-0 MVFC), 549
Previous Ranking: 7; Week 4: 38-21 loss tothen-No. 21 Southeast Missouri; Week 5: at No. 5 South Dakota
18. Illinois State (3-1, 0-0 MVFC), 524
Previous Ranking: 17; Week 4: 31-7 win over Eastern Illinois; Week 5: No. 2 North Dakota State
19. Lamar (3-1, 0-0 Southland), 284
Previous Ranking: 22; Week 4: 20-17 win over Texas Southern; Week 5: at No. 7 Central Arkansas
20. Abilene Christian (2-2, 1-0 UAC), 276
Previous Ranking:19; Week 4: 27-24 loss to then-No. 4Idaho; Week 5: at Utah Tech
21. UAlbany (1-2, 0-0 CAA), 198
Previous Ranking: 20; Week 4: No game; Week 5: Maine
22. Rhode Island (3-1, 1-0 CAA), 128
Previous Ranking: NR; Week 4: 28-21 win at LIU; Week 5: No game
23. Wofford (2-1, 0-0 SoCon), 103
Previous Ranking: NR; Week 4: No game; Week 5: No. 12 Mercer
24. New Hampshire (3-1, 1-0 CAA), 101
Previous Ranking: NR; Week 4: 38-17 win over Bryant; Week 5: No game
25. Weber State (2-2, 1-0 Big Sky), 94
Previous Ranking: 20; Week 4: 39-0 win at Northwestern State; Week 5: McNeese
Dropped Out: Lafayette (18), Chattanooga (23), Western Carolina (24), Northern Iowa (25)
Others Receiving Votes (schools listed on two or more ballots): Chattanooga (0-3, 0-1 SoCon) 80; ETSU (2-2, 0-0 SoCon) 75; Northern Iowa (2-2, 0-0 MVFC) 73; Richmond (2-2, 0-0 CAA) 72; Lafayette (2-2, 0-0 Patriot) 51; Western Carolina (1-3, 0-0 SoCon) 47; Florida A&M (2-2, 0-0 SWAC) 43; North Carolina Central (2-2, 0-0 MEAC) 28; Columbia (1-0, 0-0 Ivy) 21; Harvard (1-0, 0-0 Ivy) 19; McNeese (3-2, 1-0 Southland) 18; Duquesne (2-2, 0-0 NEC) 12; Nicholls (1-3, 0-0 Southland) 12; Lehigh (3-1, 0-0 Patriot) 10; Stony Brook (3-1, 1-0 CAA) 9; Monmouth (2-2, 1-0 CAA) 4; Yale (1-0, 0-0 Ivy) 3

If only UNI had played Mercyhurst they might not have dropped out. They dropped you got what seems to make you happy. They won’t be rated the rest of the year so start picking on other MVFC teams.
MSUBobcat
September 23rd, 2024, 02:13 PM
If only UNI had played Mercyhurst they might not have dropped out. They dropped you got what seems to make you happy. They won’t be rated the rest of the year so start picking on other MVFC teams.

I'm glad responding to my very valid criticism of UNI now makes up 2/3 of your entire contribution to the site. We are all better off having you here.

I'm not "picking on UNI". If you'll note, I mentioned 3 other teams that I found to be ranked too high.

Rather than cry about MSU's opponent (which was cobbled together last minute due to SFA joining a new conference), do you have any reasons to argue FOR UNI receiving any votes? Or is my assessment that UNI has no reason to sniff the top 25 at this point in the season correct?