Drake: enough is enough

[MplsBison]

23rd ranked men's basketball team in the nation.



GET SCHOLARSHIP FOOTBALL and take your rightful place in the Gateway.



And don't BS us about not having enough money. Oh yeah, Drake is sooooo poor.

[OSBF]

Come back to the fold bulldogs.Pay no mind to the Creighton and Bradley folks babbling on and on about how great life is with no football. Come home.

[MplsBison]

Listen to the man!

[Shockerman]

Drake: Once the name changes back to MVC Football here shortly, it will be time to come back home. Hopefully the Shox will shortly be behind you.

DRAKE: COME HOME

[Reed Rothchild]

Funding a successful bball team is MUCH easier than 60 schollys...

[DetroitFlyer]

We like Drake in the PFL. Heck, Drake can remain in the PFL and still beat teams in the Gateway or whatever that conference will be called in the future.... Please Drake, stay in the PFL, we love ya baby!!!!!xthumbsupx

[89Hen]

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21 Marquette 13-4
23 Xavier 15-4

Others receiving votes:
Saint Mary's 144, Gonzaga 32, South Alabama 5, Cleveland State 1, Creighton 1

NO FOOTBALL. xcoffeex

[DetroitFlyer]

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21 Marquette 13-4
23 Xavier 15-4

Others receiving votes:
Saint Mary's 144, Gonzaga 32, South Alabama 5, Cleveland State 1, Creighton 1

NO FOOTBALL. xcoffeex


Wrong again genius. Both schools, ( Marquette and Xavier ), have club football teams!xnodx

[crunifan]

How awesome would it be to have Drake add scholarships and Wichita State add football?

If only Bradley, Creighton, and Evansville would hop on board, haha.xlolx

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How awesome would it be to have Drake add scholarships and Wichita State add football?

If only Bradley, Creighton, and Evansville would hop on boardThat would be awesome. xnodx

[OL FU]

That would be awesome. xnodx

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[DUPFLFan]

And don't BS us about not having enough money. Oh yeah, Drake is sooooo poor.
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Will never happen. As we have said before, for Drake to provide 60 schollys in football requires another 60 schollys for women sports. This would put Drake's athletic budget greater than Northern Iowa, Iowa State and just under Iowa, with about 1/10th the student body.

Get rid of Title IX and perhaps there is a chance..

[DFW HOYA]

Will never happen. As we have said before, for Drake to provide 60 schollys in football requires another 60 schollys for women sports. This would put Drake's athletic budget greater than Northern Iowa, Iowa State and just under Iowa, with about 1/10th the student body.

That's an exaggeration. 60 men's scholarships and another 60 for women's sports would add approx. $5 million annually to the Drake budget of $11.4 million. While this would exceed UNI's budget ($13.3M), both are dwarfed by Iowa ($70.9M) and ISU ($36.9M).

[crunifan]

Not to be mean, but what in the hell is Drake spending $11.4 million on?

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Not to be mean, but what in the hell is Drake spending $11.4 million on?Ever heard of the Drake Relays? Ash laughed at that as well. He is gone now. So is Scotty Phay....

[OSBF]

Bradley also spends a ton of $$$ without having football, so does Creighton. Basketball is expensive for them as they play in (pay rent) for huge new municipal arenas instead of playing in on campus university facilities. I know that at one time both BU and CU had total athletic budgets about the same as ISU, and ISU plays DI football.

[OSBF]

xdeadhorsex
Will never happen. As we have said before, for Drake to provide 60 schollys in football requires another 60 schollys for women sports. This would put Drake's athletic budget greater than Northern Iowa, Iowa State and just under Iowa, with about 1/10th the student body.

Get rid of Title IX and perhaps there is a chance..

Size of student body has nothing to do with it. Tulsa and Notre Dame are doing just fine with small enrollments.

[DUPFLFan]

That's an exaggeration. 60 men's scholarships and another 60 for women's sports would add approx. $5 million annually to the Drake budget of $11.4 million. While this would exceed UNI's budget ($13.3M), both are dwarfed by Iowa ($70.9M) and ISU ($36.9M).

You didn't honestly think I would make a statement like that without the facts to support it do you...

I am sure you know the difference between budget - revenue and expenses. So let's look at the expense side - Specifically the line that says Athletically related student aid from the Equity in Athletics Web site for the US department of education...

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/search.asp

Iowa State Men - $2,645,145 Women - $2,410,203 Total - $5,055,348
Iowa Men - $3,302,807 Women - $3,184,077 Total - $6,486,884
Northern Iowa Men - $1,961,890 Women - $1,390,053 Total - $3,351,943
Drake Current Men - $1,166,653 Women - $1,816,551 Total - $2,983,204
120 new awards Men -$3,003,373 Women -$3,653,271 Total - $6,656,644

Sorry, I was wrong - Drake with 120 new scholarships would have more athletically related student aid than Iowa and Iowa State and double that of Northern Iowa.

Get it now DFW?

If you look at the revenue side, the state schools can easlily afford this. Drake cannot.

Revenue
Drake $11,407,671 (most of which comes from Drake Relays)
Iowa $80,203,645 (45m from Football)
ISU $36,876,628
NI $13,526,042

[Big Al]

Size of student body has nothing to do with it. Tulsa and Notre Dame are doing just fine with small enrollments.

True, but Notre Dame has a huge endowment. That makes a big difference because they don't have to sweat the revenue stream as much as most other similarly-sized private colleges.

[AZGrizFan]

Wrong again genius. Both schools, ( Marquette and Xavier ), have club football teams!xnodx


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So friggin' what???

Montana has "club" rugby teams....what does THAT prove?


NOTHING!

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[DetroitFlyer]

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So friggin' what???

Montana has "club" rugby teams....what does THAT prove?


NOTHING!

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I'll try to say this slowly so even you will understand.... IT.... PROVES..... THAT.....MONTANA.....HAS.....A..... RUGBY.....TEAM.xlolx

[Seahawks Fan]

True, but Notre Dame has a huge endowment. That makes a big difference because they don't have to sweat the revenue stream as much as most other similarly-sized private colleges.

Don't forget Notre Dame's TV revenue. xnodx

[OSBF]

OSBF has a huge endowment.

Why thank you for the complimentxsmiley_wix

[UAalum72]

Northern Iowa Men - $1,961,890 Women - $1,390,053 Total - $3,351,943
Drake Current Men - $1,166,653 Women - $1,816,551 Total - $2,983,204
120 new awards Men -$3,003,373 Women -$3,653,271 Total - $6,656,644

Wait a minute. Northern Iowa is 57% women (Men 4,235, women 5,653, same source of data), yet 61% of its athletes are men and 58% of its athletic aid go to men. Is UNI not in compliance, or are there other ways to comply with Title IX that it uses but Drake cannot or will not use? Is it not necessary to increase scholarships for women by the same number as for men, especially since Drake already gives women a lot more aid?

[DUPFLFan]

Wait a minute. Northern Iowa is 57% women (Men 4,235, women 5,653, same source of data), yet 61% of its athletes are men and 58% of its athletic aid go to men. Is UNI not in compliance, or are there other ways to comply with Title IX that it uses but Drake cannot or will not use? Is it not necessary to increase scholarships for women by the same number as for men, especially since Drake already gives women a lot more aid?

Drake is about the same ratio as Northern Iowa. I am not sure what their situation was so I can't speak to that. It may also be a revenue issue. NI makes about $1.8m more from football than Drake

I can only speak to what can happen now going forward.

[BearsCountry]

The only way I see Drake getting scholly football again is if the MVC decides to go FBS. Really the only $ way they could do it.

[SactoHornetFan]

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21 Marquette 13-4
23 Xavier 15-4

Others receiving votes:
Saint Mary's 144, Gonzaga 32, South Alabama 5, Cleveland State 1, Creighton 1

NO FOOTBALL. xcoffeex

When was the last time a non-football playing school won the National Championship. Oh that's right Marquette....IN 1977!! Face it, if you don't have football, you probably will not win the NC in hoops.