The Hot Seat

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

It's never too early....

Joe Conlin Fordham - Lost to CCSU today 33-3 after entering the game as a 20+ point favorite. He's a flake, his teams can't be trusted. I think he's toast. This is a really good job imo. Fordham has a high ceiling...

[mvemjsunpx]

Bruce Barnum, Portland State
Aaron Best, EWU

[JALMOND]

Bruce Barnum, Portland State

The only time things get hot at Portland State is when protesters take over the library.

[mvemjsunpx]

The only time things get hot at Portland State is when protesters take over the library.

Bruce Barnum's seat is so hot it's turned him into an unbreakable, unremovable diamond. xsmiley_wix

[crusader11]

It's never too early....

Joe Conlin Fordham - Lost to CCSU today 33-3 after entering the game as a 20+ point favorite. He's a flake, his teams can't be trusted. I think he's toast. This is a really good job imo. Fordham has a high ceiling...

Wholeheartedly agree. Conlin is very average, which might be good enough for Fordham.

He received an extension though the 2026 season -- https://fordhamsports.com/news/2023/2/23/fordham-football-head-coach-joe-conlin-receives-contract-extension

Maybe there's a buyout clause in here, but I don't see Fordham eating the contract unless things get REALLY bad.

[kdinva]

The only time things get hot at Portland State is when protesters take over the library.

or burn down police precincts.

[caribbeanhen]

The only time things get hot at Portland State is when protesters take over the library.

it was 105 degrees when Del State visited Lomax

[wapiti]

He is not FCS, but use to be.

Deion Sanders should be on the hot seat.

[MSUBobcat]

He is not FCS, but use to be.

Deion Sanders should be on the hot seat.

Win or lose, he's brought more attention to CU than they've had in decades.

[McNeese75]

He is not FCS, but use to be.

Deion Sanders should be on the hot seat.

He is gone this year as soon as his sons declare for the draft.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Stony Brook 27 Fordham 21 Final

No relief for Conlin. Tough home loss to a team nearby program that was 0-10 last season...but has a new coach...

[Puddin Tane]

Carthel at SFA gotta be on the hot seat

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Bryant's Chris Merritt's seat is definitely heating up. He was an odd hire to start being a Florida high school coach (ala Gerry Faust) prior to arriving in Providence. In 6 years Merritt is 24-28 with a rough 2024 ahead.

Conlin's seat has to be the hottest or tied for the hottest unless someone has a scandal going on. Fordham's AD just left for St. John's so Conlin will be answering to someone new very shortly. The Ram fans are fed up. And it's an alumni base with some jingle in their pockets....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

He is not FCS, but use to be.

Deion Sanders should be on the hot seat.

Furman alum Billy Napier has to have the hottest seat in FBS at this point. I'm not sure he makes it to next week in Gainesville....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Figured this is worthy of a bump as reality is starting to set in for many...

Colgate's Stan Dakotsy needs to be added. Stan is 15-24 in 4 years at Colgate and the Raiders sit at 1-5. This is one of the more successful 1-AA/FCS programs.

I second the mention of EWU's Aaron Best. Time is running out for him in Cheney.

Mark Farley (Northern Iowa): I know Farley has done a lot of great things at UNI and the program is hindered by budget issues but when is it time for a mutual parting of the ways? Panther football has become a complete afterthought nationally...

[DFW HOYA]

John Troxell (108-80) is the only PL coach with a record above .500.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

John Troxell (109-80) is the only PL coach with a record above .500.

Can we include Lehigh's OC Dan Hunt who owns a 40-33 career record as a head coach?......xsmiley_wix

[DFW HOYA]

Can we include Lehigh's OC Dan Hunt who owns a 40-33 career record as a head coach?......xsmiley_wix

The rundown by head coach:

Cecchini (Bucknell): 16-37 (BU), 33-75 overall
Sgarlata (Georgetown) : 33-70
Dakosty (Colgate) 15-24
Conlin (Fordham): 29-37
Curran (Holy Cross): 2-4 (HC), 55-62 overall
Troxell (Lafayette): 16-12 (LC), 108-80 overall
Cahill (Lehigh) 5-11

[JacksFan40]

He is not FCS, but use to be.

Deion Sanders should be on the hot seat.
Colorado is 4-1 and has looked significantly better since Nebraska blew them out, he’s no where near a hot seat.

As for FCS though I would think Farley would be on the hot seat eventually, but who knows.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Colorado is 4-1 and has looked significantly better since Nebraska blew them out, he’s no where near a hot seat.

As for FCS though I would think Farley would be on the hot seat eventually, but who knows.

K-State plays at Colorado Saturday night. I'm definitely nervous given how poorly the Wildcats played in Provo a couple of weeks ago.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The rundown by head coach:

Cecchini (Bucknell): 16-37 (BU), 33-75 overall
Sgarlata (Georgetown) : 33-70
Dakosty (Colgate) 15-24
Conlin (Fordham): 29-37
Curran (Holy Cross): 2-4 (HC), 55-62 overall
Troxell (Lafayette): 16-12 (LC), 108-80 overall
Cahill (Lehigh) 5-11

Hard to ignore the reality of those numbers! Conlin and Dakotsy rightly deserve the criticism given the success their respective programs have achieved.

Cahill definitely seems to have Lehigh headed in the right direction. I will be surprised if he doesn't have a winning record after year 4. It's not hard to have "modest success" at Lehigh; 6-5/7-4 seasons.

Cecchini has been head coach at two of the most difficult places to win in FCS, Bucknell and Valparaiso, which has significantly compromised his coaching record. Granted, the obvious question is, why hasn't he landed better gigs?

Sgarlata's record also has to be consumed with proper context.

[Mocs123]

Furman alum Billy Napier has to have the hottest seat in FBS at this point. I'm not sure he makes it to next week in Gainesville....

If I had a $60M buyout I'd be hoping I wouldn't make it to Gainesville!!!

[FUBeAR]

If I had a $60M buyout I'd be hoping I wouldn't make it to Gainesville!!!
FUBeAR believes his very good friend Billy Napier’s buyout is ‘only’ $23.7 million, but that should be enough to adequately cover FUBeAR’s future Personal Valet wages.

FUBeAR believes FSU’s Mike Norville’s buyout is $65 million. Easy to confuse these 2 Professional Teams in FL.

FUBeAR’s sense is the Florida is hoping something will come from discovery in this lawsuit - https://www.tampabay.com/sports/gators/2024/10/01/jaden-rashada-nil-lawsuit-billy-napier-matthew-sluka/ - that will allow them to terminate Napier without paying the buyout.

We’ll see …. Ain’t “College” Football GREAT!

[Mocs123]

You're right I got them mixed up. It would be tough, but I think I could make it with "just" 23.7M if I had to.

BTW - the buyouts are getting ridiculous and just as harmful to college athletics as the crazy NIL deals. Nobody should get a $65M buyout. And NIL - I guess it is what it is, but it should be for name - image - likeness deals - like if Butler Toyota of Macon wanted to have Kelin Parsons be in a TV ad, but not the "FUBeAR's Mercer Football Collective" offering 2025 QB John Doe $1M to sign with the Bears. And I personally think all NIL earnings over X amount should be put in an annuity or trust until the player is 25 - No 18 year old kid is prepared to know what to do with millions of dollars.

Back on topic - I don't see any SoCon coaches on the hot seat personally.

[FUBeAR]

You're right I got them mixed up. It would be tough, but I think I could make it with "just" 23.7M if I had to.

BTW - the buyouts are getting ridiculous and just as harmful to college athletics as the crazy NIL deals. Nobody should get a $65M buyout. And NIL - I guess it is what it is, but it should be for name - image - likeness deals - like if Butler Toyota of Macon wanted to have Kelin Parsons be in a TV ad, but not the "FUBeAR's Mercer Football Collective" offering 2025 QB John Doe $1M to sign with the Bears. And I personally think all NIL earnings over X amount should be put in an annuity or trust until the player is 25 - No 18 year old kid is prepared to know what to do with millions of dollars.

Back on topic - I don't see any SoCon coaches on the hot seat personally.
Hmmm….

- Coach Hatcher might be if they hadn’t have extended him after 2022. Samford ain’t buyin’ out 3 (or so) years.

- RoT wants to fire Woffy’s Coach Watson.

- Some bellhop alums want to fire Coach Drayton … but … well … you know … he’s just not “their kind” of Head Coach and never could / will be, regardless of his results … y’know.

- With all of his “Championship or bust” bluster last year and constant talk (talk only, so far) of a lofty future from Day1, FUBeAR would think some WCU peeps might be getting a bit disillusioned with Coach Bell…but it doesn’t seem so. Massey says the Catamounts are going 4-8 / 3-5 - no SoCon Championship (ever and in almost a half a century) & no Playoffs (in 40+ years). Would that get the drums beating in Cullowhee?

- Dunno how the Roos’ Fans are feeling about Coach Rocco, but he doesn’t seem to be filling Coach Wachenheim’s boots very well … so far.

- At 0-3, with 0 SoCon Championships in 5 years, FUBeAR was seeing a lot of displeasure with Coach Wright among Mocs fans / alums. Wins over a Big Sky Team and ETSU have quieted that for now, but do those naysayers pipe back up even more loudly with a loss in Travelers Rest this weekend?

Coach Hendrix, Coach Jacobs, and Coach Lamb are all safe.

[caribbeanhen]

Why is Carter Peevy in Maine?

No grad program at Mercer?

[Reign of Terrier]

To be clear: I don't want to fire Watson...as a head coach. I definitely want to fire him as an OC though. The good news is that we can fix that problem without terminating anyone's employment.

But if he can't win 5 games this year and/or push for the playoffs next year, he's probably gone, especially if we lose our DC after this season.

The only coach I see on the hot seat is Hatcher

[FUBeAR]

Why is Carter Peevy in Maine?

No grad program at Mercer?
Mercer has many grad programs - https://www.mercer.edu/academics/graduate-professional-study/, - as well as a Med School & a Law School.

Hard to say precisely with Peevy’s departure. No inside info, but FUBeAR thinks it was one of those situations where the “relationship” had just run its course. Both parties benefited from their time together, but the new Coaching Staff may have wanted to “see other people” and Peevy may have wanted to “spread his wings.”

FUBeAR believes it was a quite amicable separation, but he could just be being optimistic. As a fan, it did just feel as described above…time to move on for both and all good feels; certainly no hard ones.

[Mocs123]

Hmmm….

- Coach Hatcher might be if they hadn’t have extended him after 2022. Samford ain’t buyin’ out 3 (or so) years.

- RoT wants to fire Woffy’s Coach Watson.

- Some bellhop alums want to fire Coach Drayton … but … well … you know … he’s just not “their kind” of Head Coach and never could / will be … y’know.

- With all of his “Championship or bust” bluster last year and constant talk (talk only, so far) of a lofty future from Day1, FUBeAR would think some WCU peeps might be getting a bit disillusioned with Coach Bell…but it doesn’t seem so. Massey says the Catamounts are going 4-8 / 3-5 - no SoCon Championship (ever and in almost a half a century) & no Playoffs (in 40+ years). Would that get the drums beating in Cullowhee?

- Dunno how the Roos’ Fans are feeling about Coach Rocco, but he doesn’t seem to be filling Coach Wachenheim’s boots very well … so far.

- At 0-3, with 0 SoCon Championships in 5 years, FUBeAR was seeing a lot of displeasure with Coach Wright among Mocs fans / alums. Wins over a Big Sky Team and ETSU have quieted that for now, but do those naysayers pipe back up even more loudly with a loss in Travelers Rest this weekend?

Coach Hendrix, Coach Jacobs, and Coach Lamb are all safe.

Hatcher is probably the closest to being on the hot seat but I don't see Samford buying him out - plus he's going to win just enough to keep them wrangled in.

The Citadel seems to go through cycles of success - to be honest I'm not sure how they feel about him, but Drayton hasn't been there long.

I could see Wofford fans being upset with Watson, since he's not Ayers and he's not going to win as much as Ayers, but he's not Conklin either and I imagine fans are just glad to be winning again.

Bell's brought more sustained success in Cullowhee than they've seen in a long time - I don't see him going anywhere.

Wachenheim worked magic in Lexington - I don't see them having that success again anytime soon - It's just such a hard place to recruit to.

As for the Mocs - there are certainly fans not happy with Coach Wright, but none the less, he's not going anywhere as we couldn't afford to buy him out if we wanted to - like many FCS programs.

[caribbeanhen]

Mercer has many grad programs - https://www.mercer.edu/academics/graduate-professional-study/, - as well as a Med School & a Law School.

Hard to say precisely with Peevy’s departure. No inside info, but FUBeAR thinks it was one of those situations where the “relationship” had just run its course. Both parties benefited from their time together, but the new Coaching Staff may have wanted to “see other people” and Peevy may have wanted to “spread his wings.”

FUBeAR believes it was a quite amicable separation, but he could just be being optimistic. As a fan, it did just feel as described above…time to move on for both and all good feels; certainly no hard ones.

sounds reasonable. I did see they benched Peevy, a Georgia boy, for a few seasons and a younger and much cockier Peevy learned some things along the way, so yes your answer makes even more sense I guess

thanks

[FUBeAR]

Bell's brought more sustained success in Cullowhee than they've seen in a long time - I don't see him going anywhere.
..if you say so…





Overall
Overall
Overall
SoCon
SoCon
SoCon



WCU
Season
Coach
W
L
%
W
L
%
SoCon
Finish


2021 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Western_Carolina_Catamounts_football_team)
Kerwin Bell (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerwin_Bell)
4
7
0.364
4
4
0.500
4th-T


2022 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Western_Carolina_Catamounts_football_team)
Kerwin Bell (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerwin_Bell)
6
5
0.545
4
4
0.500
5th


2023 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Western_Carolina_Catamounts_football_team)
Kerwin Bell (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerwin_Bell)
7
4
0.636
5
3
0.625
4th


202 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Western_Carolina_Catamounts_football_team)4
Kerwin Bell (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerwin_Bell)
2
3
0.400
1
0
1.000
TBD


ALL
Kerwin Bell (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerwin_Bell)
19
19
0.500
14
11
0.560




If mediocrity was the target, Coach Bell has hit the bullseye…so far.

[FUBeAR]

sounds reasonable. I did see they benched Peevy, a Georgia boy, for a few seasons and a younger and much cockier Peevy learned some things along the way, so yes your answer makes even more sense I guess

thanks
He never seemed “cocky” to FUBeAR - confidence in his throws was sometimes even an issue - “just zing it, young man!”

After, Peevy, as a True Freshman, filled a Starting QB void left by the catastrophic lower leg injury (from a “hip drop” tackle) to potential all-star QB, Robert Riddle, in the Spring Season of ‘21, another native Georgia-boy, Fred Payton, who had started and won games for Coastal Carolina before an injury and current P5 (NC State) Starting QB, Grayson McCall, moved into Payton’s starting role for the Beach Cheekins, transferred to Mercer, and led the Bears (along with Coach Drew Cronic, et al) from mired in middle of-the-SoCon pack to competing for SoCon Championships. Peevy adequately picked up that mantle and led Mercer to their 1st Playoff berth, and victory, in 2023.

[Go Green]

I'd think that Penn's Ray Priore may be on the hot seat if the Quakers finish with a losing record. His record with players he's recruited has been mediocre.

The new Ivy coaches are off to nice starts. Yale and Princeton are having subpar seasons thus far, but their coaches have had plenty of past success and aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

[Reign of Terrier]

This may be anathema to the Wachenheim admiration, but one of the reasons VMI was ever successful is (head) coaching Stony Brook now

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Mike Houston, former coach of The Citadel and JMU, was fired this morning by ECU. He led the Dukes to the 2016 FCS National Title...

East Carolina is the the Nebraska of G5....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I have to think Farley's seat in Cedar Falls is growing much warmer. Regardless of the fact UNI and the state of Iowa need to allocate more resources for the program to improve its chances to compete again on the national level, it just feels like change is needed at head coach.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

As we head to November I have the following...
Chris Merritt: Bryant
Joe Conlin: Fordham
Stan Dakotsy: Colgate
Aaron Best: Eastern Washington
Mark Farley: Northern Iowa
Vincent Brown: North Carolina A&T...recent public comments are not promising
Ray Priore: Penn

[Reign of Terrier]

If he can’t beat the citadel and Furman, I think Shawn Watson may have put himself back on the hot seat. As great and fun as our defense is to watch, having 3 straight years of less than 4 wins under his leadership wouldn’t cut it.

[Mocs123]

If he can’t beat the citadel and Furman, I think Shawn Watson may have put himself back on the hot seat. As great and fun as our defense is to watch, having 3 straight years of less than 4 wins under his leadership wouldn’t cut it.

I wonder if Wofford is in a tough place, as I'm not sure they'll ever be able to recreate the success of Mike Ayers coaching and Jerry Richardson money. Ayers got a ton out of his players, and his option attack was something that could be extremely effective with a slightly less athletic roster. Richardson's funding made sure that resources were never an issue, which might be hard to sustain with under 2,000 students.

Perhaps I'm wrong but it just seems that the Terriers had the perfect combination for a while and it may not be easily replicated especially in today's world of NIL and the Portal. Wofford has no graduate school, correct?

[JacksFan40]

As we head to November I have the following...
Chris Merritt: Bryant
Joe Conlin: Fordham
Stan Dakotsy: Colgate
Aaron Best: Eastern Washington
Mark Farley: Northern Iowa
Vincent Brown: North Carolina A&T...recent public comments are not promising
Ray Priore: Penn
Bubba Schweigert from UND should be absolutely on the hot seat but UND will probably extend him after a 7-5 finish.

[Libertine]

This may be anathema to the Wachenheim admiration, but one of the reasons VMI was ever successful is (head) coaching Stony Brook now

Not anathema at all. One of the best qualities a head coach can have is to spot talent and to help develop it, be that players or assistant coaches.

[NDSU1980]

Bubba Schweigert from UND should be absolutely on the hot seat but UND will probably extend him after a 7-5 finish.
I'd say bubba's seat ain't even remotely warm. You are right, bubba will get another extension. Bubba is the best, und passed on Kalen DeBoer to hire bubba so you know he's good.

[McNeese72]

Gary Goff!

[grizband]

Stony Brook 27 Fordham 21 Final

No relief for Conlin. Tough home loss to a team nearby program that was 0-10 last season...but has a new coach...
The fates of both teams have diverged drastically since this game six weeks ago. Stony Brook is now 6-2, and tied for third in the CAA, while Fordham sits at 0-8 at the bottom of the Patriot League.

[F'N Hawks]

Bubba should be but he has one more year before a decision would need to be made so another 6 or 7 win season for the Hawks. Rinse, repeat

[DFW HOYA]

I don't think you can judge the Patriot League by the standard rules of a coaching hot seat. Six of the seven coaches have career records under .500, and the dean of the coaches, now in his 11th season, is 35-71 (.330).

The problem with Colgate (2-6) is not Stan Dakosty, it's the schedules he inherited from Dan Hunt. In 2022, seven road games with games at Stanford, at Maine, at Army. In 2023, four of the first five on the road. In 2024, two of the first three and four of the final five are on the road. How does one build momentum with that? If Colgate had Bucknell or Lafayette's schedule, they'd probably be 5-3 now.

For Fordham, they've fallen from a nine-win playoff team in 2022 to 0-8 in 2024. Joe Conlin had four consecutive winning seasons before this one, which has a lot of injuries, so starting over with new leadership in 2025 might be premature. However, all the PL programs are casting a wary eye to the south as Richmond has won six straight and could run the table heading into its regular season finale with William & Mary. If a PL program doesn't think they have the right pieces in place to compete with UR next year, they're running out of time to do something about it.

[Mocs123]

I think UR will run through the Patriot League next year. It was an odd move for them to make in my opinion, though the CAA isn't what it used to be.

[kab]

Bubbas seat won’t be hot until the AD is gone

[crusader11]

Even if Fordham goes 0-11, I'm not sure Conlin is gone.

PL schools don't typically buy-out contracts. He has two years left on his deal. Let's say he's making $250K/year. Is Fordham willing to pay him half a million dollars not to coach? If the previous AD was smart, he'd have put some sort of clause in Conlin's contract when he was extended that protected Fordham a bit.

[Reign of Terrier]

I wonder if Wofford is in a tough place, as I'm not sure they'll ever be able to recreate the success of Mike Ayers coaching and Jerry Richardson money. Ayers got a ton out of his players, and his option attack was something that could be extremely effective with a slightly less athletic roster. Richardson's funding made sure that resources were never an issue, which might be hard to sustain with under 2,000 students.

Perhaps I'm wrong but it just seems that the Terriers had the perfect combination for a while and it may not be easily replicated especially in today's world of NIL and the Portal. Wofford has no graduate school, correct?

NIL, the portal, all that stuff is a little overrated at this level. Same with talent. Talent is typically developed at this level, not something you pluck out of high school and plug in, like the SEC. Wofford's benefited more from the portal (gotten quality players) than it's been hurt since 2021 or so. Definitely since Conklin left.

It would certainly help Wofford to have a graduate school, so we could recruit more experienced players, but the reality is there's also countless G5 players riding the bench with 2-3+ years of eligibility that just want to play. Both of our starting safeties are an example of this.

Wofford's facilities are still near the top of the FCS, or at least among private schools. Had a parent of a current player tell me ours were easily better than the ivies they visited.

Wofford's problems right now aren't in physical capital or financial resources, but in not investing enough in human capital. But we have a new AD who understands that. Wofford's in perfect position for another coach to come in and be successful. Watson can still be successful, but he needs an OC.

At the end of the day, Wofford has done really good the last few years in baseball and volleyball, despite struggling with basketball and football. That had more to do with the men leading those teams than off the field stuff. Watson is a huge improvement under Conklin (who benefited from having two elite OCs, one who is coaching defense in the NFL), but his issue is he's running a high-risk, high-reward NFL offense among players who can't run the system (throw and catch in tight space).

If he loses his job, it's because he insists on the system. He's gotta win 5 games to feel confident about his job. I could see him keeping it at 4, but we have a new AD who loses nothing by firing him.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Even if Fordham goes 0-11, I'm not sure Conlin is gone.

PL schools don't typically buy-out contracts. He has two years left on his deal. Let's say he's making $250K/year. Is Fordham willing to pay him half a million dollars not to coach? If the previous AD was smart, he'd have put some sort of clause in Conlin's contract when he was extended that protected Fordham a bit.

Given the context of the following university release, Fordham fired Tom Masella following the Rams 1-10 record in 2011. I don't anticipate the ongoing AD transition will divert the attention of Ram athletic admin/supporters from the dumpster fire the football program has burst into. Enough people (definitely not just me) have planted the seeds of concern regarding Conlin's decision making, team's inconsistent efforts, his erratic sideline behavior etc. that this season's bottoming out is part of a larger, very troubling sample size.

https://fordhamsports.com/news/2011/11/19/111911aac_122


Fordham University Executive Director of Athletics Frank McLaughlin announced today that head football coach Tom Masella (http://www.fansonly.com/schools/ford/sports/m-footbl/mtt/masella_tom00.html) has been relieved of his duties effective immediately.

Dakosty is the more interesting one. I'm hoping to take some time tomorrow to expand on the "Langel Effect". He's the athletic department alpha Dunlap and Biddle once were in Hamilton when Raider Football ruled the day...

[caribbeanhen]

Danny Rocco should be on it, but not sure VMI really has a hot seat for football in the new and not improved NIL Portal era

[Mocs123]

VMI has had three winning seasons in the past 40 years, so they aren't firing Rocco. Not to mention VMI like a lot of schools probably doesn't have the money to fire a coach.

VMI is a really tough place to be successful - military school, not any real football history, dorms with no A/C, a requirement to recruit a lot of Va kids, no lights on their stadium, etc. There are some of the same challenges at The Citadel, but they at least have Charleston, and CoC (which is primarily female) right down the road. Plus The Citadel does have some football history.

[caribbeanhen]

VMI has had three winning seasons in the past 40 years, so they aren't firing Rocco. Not to mention VMI like a lot of schools probably doesn't have the money to fire a coach.

VMI is a really tough place to be successful - military school, not any real football history, dorms with no A/C, a requirement to recruit a lot of Va kids, no lights on their stadium, etc. There are some of the same challenges at The Citadel, but they at least have Charleston, and CoC (which is primarily female) right down the road. Plus The Citadel does have some football history.

great points and Cosh is on Long Island

[TribeNomad1]

VMI has had three winning seasons in the past 40 years, so they aren't firing Rocco. Not to mention VMI like a lot of schools probably doesn't have the money to fire a coach.

VMI is a really tough place to be successful - military school, not any real football history, dorms with no A/C, a requirement to recruit a lot of Va kids, no lights on their stadium, etc. There are some of the same challenges at The Citadel, but they at least have Charleston, and CoC (which is primarily female) right down the road. Plus The Citadel does have some football history.


I had always heard about the co-eds at C of C. A number of years ago we toured (did USC, Clemson, UNC on that swing) and was not impressed with the "talent". Then the males, beta males for sure.

[Reign of Terrier]

VMI has had three winning seasons in the past 40 years, so they aren't firing Rocco. Not to mention VMI like a lot of schools probably doesn't have the money to fire a coach.

VMI is a really tough place to be successful - military school, not any real football history, dorms with no A/C, a requirement to recruit a lot of Va kids, no lights on their stadium, etc. There are some of the same challenges at The Citadel, but they at least have Charleston, and CoC (which is primarily female) right down the road. Plus The Citadel does have some football history.

You’re right that they won’t fire him, but this whole “they can’t do a buyout” thing is funny because it presumes a buyout exists in the first place. People assumed Wofford wouldn’t fire Conklin because of buyouts when he had none - he was just an employee of the college and the AD was a moron. I heard an apocryphal story that a citadel alumni handed Drayton’s predecessor a check for the equivalent of his buyout midway through his last year (median well adjusted Citadel alumnus imo). Buyouts that are huge are really stupid at this level. Maybe buyouts period are stupid at this level. At the FBS level they started primarily to not be left out to dry if your coach got pillaged by the NFL - or another FBS team. IE to protect good coaches, not to stop you from firing bad coaches. Same dynamics aren’t here.

At the end of the day, the citadel has better facilities, more money to spend on their program, a better location, and most importantly they have a grad school that allows them to circumvent nob hazing. They will always have superior capabilities to VMI. I hate dunking on VMI but it’s just objectively true that your program is in a rut if you lose to them more than once every 3 or 4 years in today’s game. I can’t understate how bad VMI’s football field is and how bad their transfer problem is.


I had always heard about the co-eds at C of C. A number of years ago we toured (did USC, Clemson, UNC on that swing) and was not impressed with the "talent". Then the males, beta males for sure.

They were the hipster school by reputation when i was applying in the early 2010s

[FUBeAR]

I had always heard about the co-eds at C of C. A number of years ago we toured (did USC, Clemson, UNC on that swing) and was not impressed with the "talent". Then the males, beta males for sure.
If you are saying you were not impressed with the “talent” at Clemson, North Carolina, and South Carolina, and have always believed yourself to be a heterosexual male, you may need to make an appointment with a psychologist specializing in human sexuality.

If you are just talking about C of C, yeah, it ain’t what it used to be. Now up to 32% male. It’s been co-ed forever, but, for whatever reason, it used to be so highly female/male, that FUBeAR thought it was a girl’s school…like Converse used to be. Anyway, still today, if you view the co-ed’s at C of C using Daddy’s portfolio as a filter, they’re still way hot!

[TribeNomad1]

If you are saying you were not impressed with the “talent” at Clemson, North Carolina, and South Carolina, and have always believed yourself to be a heterosexual male, you may need to make an appointment with a psychologist specializing in human sexuality.

If you are just talking about C of C, yeah, it ain’t what it used to be. Now up to 32% male. It’s been co-ed forever, but, for whatever reason, it used to be so highly female/male, that FUBeAR thought it was a girl’s school…like Converse used to be. Anyway, still today, if you view the co-ed’s at C of C using Daddy’s portfolio as a filter, they’re still way hot!


Oh no, the other three a different animal, or this case Homo Sapien females.

[FUBeAR]

Oh no, the other three a different animal, or this case Homo Sapien females.
Got it.

And, now, here’s a pleasant musical interlude related to our topic (gotta wait for the final verse though) and it’s UGa instead of those previously mentioned, but certainly they all 4 play in the same subdivision.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRpky8Zk84

[F'N Hawks]

Bump on Bubba

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Bump on Bubba

How hot is Bubba's seat? 7/10?

[TheKingpin28]

Bump on BubbaZero reason to believe that a hockey school would buy out one of their best coaches of all time. In fact, a lifetime contract should be rewarded.

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[POD Knows]

Zero reason to believe that a hockey school would buy out one of their best coaches of all time. In fact, a lifetime contract should be rewarded.

Sent from my SM-A546U1 using TapatalkHonestly, there needs to be a study, with UND as the focus, on ineptitude and failure for road games in football. They need to study the processes, preparation, mindset, diet, travel and any other relative data that UND does during the week and at game day with their away games. I don't know where I saw it but under Bubba their road game win % is something like 34 or 35%. That might be a decent number for some teams, but they hardly ever lose at home. Or maybe the investigation should focus on their over performance at home, refs being bought out, crowd noise being pumped in, toxic air being pumped into the visiting team's locker rooms, food and water tampering for the visiting teams and anything else that is relevant.

[caribbeanhen]

Honestly, there needs to be a study, with UND as the focus, on ineptitude and failure for road games in football. They need to study the processes, preparation, mindset, diet, travel and any other relative data that UND does during the week and at game day with their away games. I don't know where I saw it but under Bubba their road game win % is something like 34 or 35%. That might be a decent number for some teams, but they hardly ever lose at home. Or maybe the investigation should focus on their over performance at home, refs being bought out, crowd noise being pumped in, toxic air being pumped into the visiting team's locker rooms, food and water tampering for the visiting teams and anything else that is relevant.

this looks exactly like fans outside of North Dakota arguing about The Bison and the tremendous home field advantage they hold and Frisco is home game

[POD Knows]

this looks exactly like fans outside of North Dakota arguing about The Bison and the tremendous home field advantage they hold and Frisco is home game
That home field advantage was a myth, their road record was just as good. The winning % between home and away wasn’t that big for regular season games over the years. NDSU lost a fair number at home, hell, they lost twice at home to USD during the run. I just find it very odd that a team with a home winning percentage that UND has is completely lost on the road. It is the same team on the field every weekend, why the disparity, it must be these awesome home crowds at places like Indiana State and others. 😀

Also, their “premier” hockey program just dropped 2 away games this weekend, it was to a good team but whatever. You know, the school being in a different country and then having to travel to all these USA destination can wear on you after awhile. 😵*💫

[NDSU1980]

That home field advantage was a myth, their road record was just as good. The winning % between home and away wasn’t that big for regular season games over the years. NDSU lost a fair number at home, hell, they lost twice at home to USD during the run. I just find it very odd that a team with a home winning percentage that UND has is completely lost on the road. It is the same team on the field every weekend, why the disparity, it must be these awesome home crowds at places like Indiana State and others. 

Also, their “premier” hockey program just dropped 2 away games this weekend, it was to a good team but whatever. You know, the school being in a different country and then having to travel to all these USA destination can wear on you after awhile. *
Well it's known that bubba sleeps better when they're home.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54114643275_bbe35cdfca_c.jpg

[TheKingpin28]

Honestly, there needs to be a study, with UND as the focus, on ineptitude and failure for road games in football. They need to study the processes, preparation, mindset, diet, travel and any other relative data that UND does during the week and at game day with their away games. I don't know where I saw it but under Bubba their road game win % is something like 34 or 35%. That might be a decent number for some teams, but they hardly ever lose at home. Or maybe the investigation should focus on their over performance at home, refs being bought out, crowd noise being pumped in, toxic air being pumped into the visiting team's locker rooms, food and water tampering for the visiting teams and anything else that is relevant.The odds should even out over time but it's crazy how bad they are away from their grain storage facility and the minute they step back in the Alerus Dump, they are damn near an immovable object.

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[ysubigred]

I'm not going to scroll the entire thread, but YSUs coaches should all be here.. piss poor job all the way around.

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[BEAR]

Nathan Brown and the entire staff. How do you continue to call division II plays and still keep your job? How do you lose to a team that is 0-9 when you worked all year to be ranked in the top 10? No. Fire the head coach and all those associated with that crew. Can we finally move out of division II? Please? xconfusedx

[Libertine]

Nathan Brown and the entire staff. How do you continue to call division II plays and still keep your job? How do you lose to a team that is 0-9 when you worked all year to be ranked in the top 10? No. Fire the head coach and all those associated with that crew. Can we finally move out of division II? Please? xconfusedx

I get there's frustration so please know that I'm not trying to poke the (literal) bear but...what the heck are "division II plays"?

[caribbeanhen]

I get there's frustration so please know that I'm not trying to poke the (literal) bear but...what the heck are "division II plays"?

plays that don't have talented enough players executing the play

[kab]

Rich coming from an ndsu guy , the fabulous Fargo dump vote will go down again , maybe they can store grain in there

[POD Knows]

Rich coming from an ndsu guy , the fabulous Fargo dump vote will go down again , maybe they can store grain in there
Yea, they could store 100,000 bu in the freaking trophy room. xnodx

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I saw Farley's contract expires after the 2026 season. Is there some way to expedite Farley's transition into his next phase with a mutual agreement of some sort?

The PL still has two strong candidates for change imo....

Stan Dakotsy: Colgate is now 2-7 (1-3) with games @ Lehigh, @ Bucknell remaining. Raider faithful rightfully want change. This was a bad hire from the start....
Joe Conlin: Fordham is 1-9 (1-4) with Georgetown and Merrimack. Winning out might save him? How likely is that though?

[Go Green]

Penn's Ray Priore has redeemed himself. If he wins next week against Harvard, he should get an extension,

[Reign of Terrier]

Shawn Watson at Wofford has probably bought himself another year with 5 wins this season. I’d say he has a 60% chance of beating the Citadel, but if he doesn’t it wouldn’t be catastrophic. Wofford has shown clear improvement over last year, even though some games this year were frustrating to watch on offense, winning as many games as in his first 2 season combined. If he wins game number 6, that will only help.

[JacksFan40]

Feel like Bubba’s seat should be blazing hot. His one redeeming factor is how good UND has been at home. That’s gone after losing by 31 to SDSU, and it will get even worse with USD coming to Grand Forks next week.

[FUBeAR]

FCS Adjacent…

https://twitter.com/godawgs999/status/1855686720983118107

Hooty oooooh!!

[Reign of Terrier]

Yeah, Bohannon had to go. Their offense is almost as stupid as Wofford’s. You can’t run out of the option base unless you’re a service academy. It’s not just the cut blocking, but because everyone runs zone reads nowadays. The option was successful for decades because it balanced deception and fundamentals - it was rare to see. But now, many of these deceptive tactics are either illegal (cut blocking) or mainstream. In some ways the option was a victim of its own success.

Sure, you could do well at lower levels (Harding at D2 won a national title), but as soon as you play teams who have good defenses and a level of athleticism, it’s pretty easy to shut down (I’m rooting for Army, but Notre Dame will kill them in a couple weeks). You saw this with Wofford in the 2010s, and with Mercer in the playoffs last year.

Bohannan was trying to evolve and was absolutely awful at it. Having lived through various “evolutions” it’s just better to chunk it out and accept 2 years of meh, with improvement, instead of having 3 years of awful. Having said that, the Sam Houston State example is possibly one to say this was too quick of a decision.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I saw Farley's contract expires after the 2026 season. Is there some way to expedite Farley's transition into his next phase with a mutual agreement of some sort?

The PL still has two strong candidates for change imo....

Stan Dakotsy: Colgate is now 2-7 (1-3) with games @ Lehigh, @ Bucknell remaining. Raider faithful rightfully want change. This was a bad hire from the start....
Joe Conlin: Fordham is 1-9 (1-4) with Georgetown and Merrimack. Winning out might save him? How likely is that though?

And all parties involved did....

The million dollar question now comes, how good of a job is Northern Iowa in 2024?

[FUBeAR]

Yeah, Bohannon had to go. Their offense is almost as stupid as Wofford’s. You can’t run out of the option base unless you’re a service academy. It’s not just the cut blocking, but because everyone runs zone reads nowadays. The option was successful for decades because it balanced deception and fundamentals - it was rare to see. But now, many of these deceptive tactics are either illegal (cut blocking) or mainstream. In some ways the option was a victim of its own success.

Sure, you could do well at lower levels (Harding at D2 won a national title), but as soon as you play teams who have good defenses and a level of athleticism, it’s pretty easy to shut down (I’m rooting for Army, but Notre Dame will kill them in a couple weeks). You saw this with Wofford in the 2010s, and with Mercer in the playoffs last year.

Bohannan was trying to evolve and was absolutely awful at it. Having lived through various “evolutions” it’s just better to chunk it out and accept 2 years of meh, with improvement, instead of having 3 years of awful. Having said that, the Sam Houston State example is possibly one to say this was too quick of a decision.
?

Mercer ran no KSU or Woffy-style “Option.” They only ran QB/Single RB Zone/Power Reads, QB/Fly Sweep Reads and RPO’s (just like almost every other NCAA Football Team with a QB that can run even a little bit) - in Coach Cronic’s “Sling T.” Maybe 1 or 2 down-the-line Speed Options, but no “Triple” stuff at all. He may be using a little more of a ‘traditional’ Option as the OC at Navy, since they were so deeply entrenched in the GaSou/Paul Johnson WingBone Triple for so long, but that really was never in Mercer’s DNA.

Mercer’s Offense in the 2023 Playoffs, in the 2nd round, ran into a South Dakota State Defense that did THIS to all 15 of their opponents…including their 4 Playoff Opponents - who ‘rang up’ a stellar 3.75 PPG on the bunnies. It wasn’t the scheme that got the Bears a goose-egg that day. SDSU’s Defensive Players were just a whole lot better than Mercer’s Offensive Players. Both sides were well-Coached.

SDSU Full 2023 Season - Selected Defensive Team Stats (15-0)


Statistic
SDSU Opponents


SCORING


Points Per Game
9.27


RUSHING


Average Per Attempt
3.2


Avg. Per Game
89.6


Touchdowns
6


PASSING


Avg. Per Game
167.60


Touchdowns
9


TOTAL OFFENSE


Avg. Per Game
257.2


Touchdowns
15


MISCELLANEOUS


3rd Down Conversions
33.51%


SDSU Team Sacks of Opponents-Yards Lost
29-177


Red Zone: Attempts-Scores (Any Score Success %)
20-34 (58.82%)


Red Zone: Touchdowns (TD Success %)
10-34 (29.41%)

[one_armed_man]

Hopefully Coach Brown at Central Arkansas will be soon if he isn't already. We just got a new AD and Brown has only been mediocre except for one season.

[Go...gate]

Colgate has fired coaches after three years. Ed Sweeney went 6-26-1 from 1993-95 (0-11 in 1995) and Colgate fired him before the fourth year of his contract.

Nikki Moore, a dreadful Athletic Director, elevated Dakosty after Dan Hunt got himself in trouble and was shown the door.

P.S.: Colgate's uniforms are ugly.

[DFW HOYA]

Colgate has fired coaches after three years. Ed Sweeney went 6-26-1 from 1993-95 (0-11 in 1995) and Colgate fired him before the fourth year of his contract.


At a distance, Dakosty is not the problem: Colgate's scheduling takes a lot out of the team early. Playing Stanford, Syracuse, Akron, BC, Army, etc. pays some bills but I'm not sure it makes the team any more competitive by PL play.

[FUBeAR]

FCS Adjacent…

https://twitter.com/godawgs999/status/1855686720983118107

Hooty oooooh!!
Confirmed…with some of that “he stepped down” / “no, I was fired” stuff that is always so unpleasant.
https://twitter.com/sales_720/status/1855795151664246973

[caribbeanhen]

Confirmed…with some of that “he stepped down” / “no, I was fired” stuff that is always so unpleasant.
https://twitter.com/sales_720/status/1855795151664246973

he was coach of the year back in 2017 when the Lil Darlins were all the rage

[Go...gate]

At a distance, Dakosty is not the problem: Colgate's scheduling takes a lot out of the team early. Playing Stanford, Syracuse, Akron, BC, Army, etc. pays some bills but I'm not sure it makes the team any more competitive by PL play.

One or two FBS a year is not unusual for any FCS program. Except for Cornell, we have not competed with the Ivies, and Merrimack, Villanova and Maine dominated us physically. Colgate is not playing to win as it once did.

-

[bonarae]

One or two FBS a year is not unusual for any FCS program. Except for Cornell, we have not competed with the Ivies, and Merrimack, Villanova and Maine dominated us physically. Colgate is not playing to win as it once did.

-

xsighx A bigger question is, are the Colgate Raiders, like their NFL counterpart, past their prime?

[Libertine]

To be fair, I think there are some institutional issues at work at Kennesaw. They aren't ready for FBS but they were never ready for FCS long-term either. Their admin did the basic minimal amount of work necessary to get the team on the field but there is a difference between having a team and having a program. Their facilities are virtually the same today as they were when they started the program over a decade ago. Bohannon did a good job with what he had, but winning too much too soon may have convinced the admin that what he had was good enough.

[Pards Rule]

Colgate has fired coaches after three years. Ed Sweeney went 6-26-1 from 1993-95 (0-11 in 1995) and Colgate fired him before the fourth year of his contract.

Nikki Moore, a dreadful Athletic Director, elevated Dakosty after Dan Hunt got himself in trouble and was shown the door.

P.S.: Colgate's uniforms are ugly.

Was there any leakage of what happened to Hunt?

[F'N Hawks]

Bump for Bubba

[caribbeanhen]

Bump for Bubba

but Bubba could Coach when he had better players

[HootyHoo]

Sad day in Kennesaw to see Coach Bo fired for old Hoot. But it was time. An intriguing rumor is that KSU is targeting Eddie George as the new head coach. George tried to get former North Dakota St OC Tyler Roehl as OC at Tennessee State this summer but it fell through. Roehl would be ideal as OC for the Owls. To the Bison fans in here, were you happy with Roehl when he was there? He sounds like a good coach.

[FUBeAR]

Sad day in Kennesaw to see Coach Bo fired for old Hoot. But it was time. An intriguing rumor is that KSU is targeting Eddie George as the new head coach. George tried to get former North Dakota St OC Tyler Roehl as OC at Tennessee State this summer but it fell through. Roehl would be ideal as OC for the Owls. To the Bison fans in here, were you happy with Roehl when he was there? He sounds like a good coach.
If there’s one thing KSU has down cold, it’s “timing.”

0-10 vs. FCS & very recent FCS since 11/06/22.

Maybe schedule a lower-quarter of the PFL Team next season. 51% chance of a win…probably.

[F'N Hawks]

but Bubba could Coach when he had better players

Not really. And he only had better players a couple times at most. Recruiting is not good enough

[Chalupa Batman]

Sad day in Kennesaw to see Coach Bo fired for old Hoot. But it was time. An intriguing rumor is that KSU is targeting Eddie George as the new head coach. George tried to get former North Dakota St OC Tyler Roehl as OC at Tennessee State this summer but it fell through. Roehl would be ideal as OC for the Owls. To the Bison fans in here, were you happy with Roehl when he was there? He sounds like a good coach.

Eddie George did get Tyler Roehl to be his OC, but about 30 days later a better offer came along from Iowa State.

As far as when he was here, there were a lot of frustrations with his playcalling, specifically with how often he would run QB power. It seemed each season the playbook got more restricted and relied more heavily on the running game. The players here loved him though, and were openly lobbying for him to be the new HC after Matt Entz left for USC.

[Baron Sardonicus]

Stetson coach Brian Young will probably get a lame duck year, but I can't see him being retained past 2025. Hatters have been a weak program, with the exception of a couple years under Roger Hughes.

[HootyHoo]

Hey Fubear, I know I wish KSU could be as successful as Furman, who is *check notes* 2-7 and 8th in the SOCON. Is it cold out there in the wilderness?

[FUBeAR]

Hey Fubear, I know I wish KSU could be as successful as Furman, who is *check notes* 2-7 and 8th in the SOCON. Is it cold out there in the wilderness?
Not FUBeAR’s or Furman’s fault that the evil NCAA denied FU’s waiver request for a Team Redshirt Season in 2024…

But let’s see…since the last time KSU was able to rise UP and defeat an FCS Team (while losing to 10 of them), Furman has won 15 FCS games and the Championship of a Conference which told KSU, “um, no, we don’t want your kind ‘round here; just keep walkin’”

Cold? Wilderness?

Drove by KSU the other day and saw y’all’s updated mascot(s)…
https://twitter.com/gunsnrosesgirl3/status/1856804789776269784
PERFECT!

[HootyHoo]

Not FUBeAR’s or Furman’s fault that the evil NCAA denied FU’s waiver request for a Team Redshirt Season in 2024…

But let’s see…since the last time KSU was able to rise UP and defeat an FCS Team (while losing to 10 of them), Furman has won 15 FCS games and the Championship of a Conference which told KSU, “um, no, we don’t want your kind ‘round here; just keep walking’”

Cold? Wilderness?

Drove by KSU the other day and saw y’all’s updated mascot(s)…
https://twitter.com/gunsnrosesgirl3/status/1856804789776269784
PERFECT!

Excuses Fubear, tisk tisk. Hooty chuckles at your quaint attempts at humor. I know the Socon rues the day they rejected KSU, but was for the best. THE Kennesaw State University is far too big for the Sunbelt Feeder conference. For that is your future….
Every good player you produce will be at KSU or some other G5 school the next season. Hooty will laugh as you all fall into irrelevance. Forgotten relics of the past.

[POD Knows]

Excuses Fubear, tisk tisk. Hooty chuckles at your quaint attempts at humor. I know the Socon rues the day they rejected KSU, but was for the best. THE Kennesaw State University is far too big for the Sunbelt Feeder conference. For that is your future….
Every good player you produce will be at KSU or some other G5 school the next season. Hooty will laugh as you all fall into irrelevance. Forgotten relics of the past.
KSU is a forgotten relic of the present.

[caribbeanhen]

Excuses Fubear, tisk tisk. Hooty chuckles at your quaint attempts at humor. I know the Socon rues the day they rejected KSU, but was for the best. THE Kennesaw State University is far too big for the Sunbelt Feeder conference. For that is your future….
Every good player you produce will be at KSU or some other G5 school the next season. Hooty will laugh as you all fall into irrelevance. Forgotten relics of the past.

it’s about time you showed up Hooty

Delaware can’t wait to play Kenny Doll St, the Bryant of CUSA

[Bisonoline]

Excuses Fubear, tisk tisk. Hooty chuckles at your quaint attempts at humor. I know the Socon rues the day they rejected KSU, but was for the best. THE Kennesaw State University is far too big for the Sunbelt Feeder conference. For that is your future….
Every good player you produce will be at KSU or some other G5 school the next season. Hooty will laugh as you all fall into irrelevance. Forgotten relics of the past.

Hooty when has KSU ever been relevant?

[MSUBobcat]

Some people never change. Hooty, I've missed ya. Where the hell is Chattown....

[FUBeAR]

KSU is a forgotten relic of the present.
LOL - we need a 10x Rep Button!

[Libertine]

KSU is a forgotten relic of the present.

xlolx

This may be the coldest burn I've ever heard. I am absolutely stealing it.

[POD Knows]

xlolx

This may be the coldest burn I've ever heard. I am absolutely stealing it.
Have at it, my mind is a dumpster for all to feed.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple fired Stan Drayton after 3 seasons today. My guess is there will be one or two FCS potential candidates/actual candidates.

Stan Dakotsy is almost certainly done at Colgate imo. Conlin might get another year in the Bronx given the fact the Rams have not quit despite their dreadful season.

I'll be shocked if Chris Merritt survives past next Sunday as Bryant's head coach.

[CAAFan2025@508]

Lehigh TU Owl

You seem to be in the know regarding some of these coaching changes. Long time viewer, first time poster here. You never want to see a change but I am curious about the newbie CAA school, Bryant. They have had a couple winning years under Merritt but they were NEC & Big South-OVC, respectively. Big jump into the CAA, I can see another year or two but according to Bryant's website and athletics page, they are continuing to make a dent into the CAA & America East with their facilities and scholarship allotments. I give that admin some credit, they're putting the support behind those coaches.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh TU Owl

You seem to be in the know regarding some of these coaching changes. Long time viewer, first time poster here. You never want to see a change but I am curious about the newbie CAA school, Bryant. They have had a couple winning years under Merritt but they were NEC & Big South-OVC, respectively. Big jump into the CAA, I can see another year or two but according to Bryant's website and athletics page, they are continuing to make a dent into the CAA & America East with their facilities and scholarship allotments. I give that admin some credit, they're putting the support behind those coaches.

The winless conference record in what is widely considered to be a down year for the CAA combined with the fact some program stakeholders weren't too impressed with Merritt's credentials relative to the FCS landscape creates significant apprehesion. If nothing else, Merritt aided the program through a rather unstable period but the end game is to elevate the program/Bryant reputation through tangible success, not by simple association.

Start year two in the CAA with a clean slate and new vision.

Lehigh's Dan Hunt, former Colgate head coach, will have multiple interview opportunities...

[ngineer]

Temple fired Stan Drayton after 3 seasons today. My guess is there will be one or two FCS potential candidates/actual candidates.

Stan Dakotsy is almost certainly done at Colgate imo. Conlin might get another year in the Bronx given the fact the Rams have not quit despite their dreadful season.

I'll be shocked if Chris Merritt survives past next Sunday as Bryant's head coach.

Agreed. I was very surprised at Colgate's complete overall failure this year. OTOH, despite their record, Fordham showed heart and continued to fight in all their games. Losing several by only a few points, including Holy Cross.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple fired Stan Drayton after 3 seasons today. My guess is there will be one or two FCS potential candidates/actual candidates.

Stan Dakotsy is almost certainly done at Colgate imo. Conlin might get another year in the Bronx given the fact the Rams have not quit despite their dreadful season.

I'll be shocked if Chris Merritt survives past next Sunday as Bryant's head coach.

Lehigh's Kevin Cahill already being mentioned...


Some potential names to watch to replace Drayton full-time in the job include Syracuse defensive coordinator Elijah Robinson, Syracuse offensive coordinator Jeff Nixon, Bowling Green head coach Scot Loeffler, Syracuse quarterbacks coach Nunzio Campanile, Ohio State defensive coordinator Jim Knowles, Kutztown head coach Jim Clements, Lehigh head coach Kevin Cahill and Texas offensive coordinator/former Rutgers head coach Kyle Flood.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5927295/2024/11/17/temple-football-stan-drayton-fired/

[FUBeAR]

Sad day in Kennesaw to see Coach Bo fired for old Hoot. But it was time. An intriguing rumor is that KSU is targeting Eddie George as the new head coach. George tried to get former North Dakota St OC Tyler Roehl as OC at Tennessee State this summer but it fell through. Roehl would be ideal as OC for the Owls. To the Bison fans in here, were you happy with Roehl when he was there? He sounds like a good coach.
Tough month to be a leader of flying barn rats…
https://twitter.com/collegesportso/status/1858589333336289517
LOL - they called KSU (0-10 vs. FCS Schools in over 2 seasons) an “FBS School”

Guess separating the owlets out as a FBSINO school would have exceeded X’s character limit.

[TribeNomad1]

Tough month to be a leader of flying barn rats…
https://twitter.com/collegesportso/status/1858589333336289517
LOL - they called KSU (0-10 vs. FCS Schools in over 2 seasons) an “FBS School”

Guess separating the owlets out as a FBSINO school would have exceeded X’s character limit.


Choices need to be more "wise" next time.

[caribbeanhen]

Choices need to be more "wise" next time.

Haha

and less owlful

[crusader11]

If Conlin returns as head coach of Fordham, it's a sign they're not serious about football, IMO.

I could maybe see Colgate giving Dakosty another season, even though that program is visibly rudderless under his watch. Assuming Colgate loses to Bucknell this weekend, Dakosty would be 12-12 in the PL over the past four seasons. Is that enough to fire an alum of the school/program? Colgate is going to need their football alums to step up and make some noise, IMO. Will they?

[DFW HOYA]

If Conlin returns as head coach of Fordham, it's a sign they're not serious about football, IMO.

Disagree. It's all a matter of what a coach is evaluated on beyond the wins and losses.



I could maybe see Colgate giving Dakosty another season, even though that program is visibly rudderless under his watch. Assuming Colgate loses to Bucknell this weekend, Dakosty would be 12-12 in the PL over the past four seasons. Is that enough to fire an alum of the school/program?

Shouldn't be.

[mainejeff]

Choices need to be more "wise" next time.

Who gives a hoot?

[Libertine]

Haha

and less owlful

I hate you so much. Mainly because I laughed out loud at that.

[MSUBobcat]

I hate you so much. Mainly because I laughed out loud at that.

I audibly groaned.... xsmhxxthumbsdownx

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Not saying hot seat but would W&M and Mike London benefit from exploring options? The Tribe seem stuck in neutral with him leading the way.....

Would Sgarlata walk away from the Hoyas? It's been a looong decade and the ceiling seems to be .500 at best ....

[catamountalum04]

Kerwin Bell is not on the hot seat at Western Carolina but there are very loud whispers that the Catamounts will be looking for a new coach soon

[Libertine]

Valpo is in the market for a new head Beacon. Landon Fox is out.

https://valpoathletics.com/news/2024/11/24/valpo-athletics-announces-change-in-leadership-of-football-program.aspx

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- - - Updated - - -

Prairie View A&M has cut Bubba McDowell loose as well.

https://hbcusports.com/2024/11/24/report-bubba-mcdowell-out-as-prairie-view-football-coach/

[POD Knows]

NDSU need a secondary coach.

[DFW HOYA]

Not saying hot seat but would W&M and Mike London benefit from exploring options? The Tribe seem stuck in neutral with him leading the way.....
Would Sgarlata walk away from the Hoyas? It's been a looong decade and the ceiling seems to be .500 at best ....

Excepting the COVID mini-season, Mike London hasn't had a losing season at W&M, and could contend next year after Richmond leaves. At 64, I'm not sure how much demand he would be in.

As for Sgarlata, why? The Georgetown program dates back 1,034 games and he's been on the field or sideline in 369 of them. It's his program, he has the near unanimous support of every player that he's either played with or coached for 34 years, and to give that up for the nomadic life of a position coach would be questionable--head coaching jobs in Division I don't open up very often, and sometimes not at all.

This is the exact scenario for Sgarlata's predecessor Kevin Kelly, whose record wasn't great but who left Georgetown in 2014 to be a position coach at Ball State under Pete Lembo. By year two, Lembo was fired and so were all his assistants. Kelly's exodus began again: one year as a high school coach in Pennsylvania, two years as a position coach at Bryant, less than one year as a XFL position coach before XFL 2.0 folded, one year as a DB coach at Salve Regina (RI), and two years out of coaching before he was tapped to begin a Division III startup program in Henniker, NH.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

We're a few hours away from some action. Monday is traditionally the day when things get decided/settled...

Stan Dakotsy, Joe Conlin, and Chris Merritt are who I'll be keeping an extra close eye on today.....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Excepting the COVID mini-season, Mike London hasn't had a losing season at W&M, and could contend next year after Richmond leaves. At 64, I'm not sure how much demand he would be in.

As for Sgarlata, why? The Georgetown program dates back 1,034 games and he's been on the field or sideline in 369 of them. It's his program, he has the near unanimous support of every player that he's either played with or coached for 34 years, and to give that up for the nomadic life of a position coach would be questionable--head coaching jobs in Division I don't open up very often, and sometimes not at all.

This is the exact scenario for Sgarlata's predecessor Kevin Kelly, whose record wasn't great but who left Georgetown in 2014 to be a position coach at Ball State under Pete Lembo. By year two, Lembo was fired and so were all his assistants. Kelly's exodus began again: one year as a high school coach in Pennsylvania, two years as a position coach at Bryant, less than one year as a XFL position coach before XFL 2.0 folded, one year as a DB coach at Salve Regina (RI), and two years out of coaching before he was tapped to begin a Division III startup program in Henniker, NH.

London is definitely a candidate for retirement/new role either this year or next. Things have grown a bit stale in Williamsburg....

I completely understand what you're saying about Sgarlata but after 10 years of seeing others succeed while you're watching your own players struggle wears on you. Not saying he leaves or should but emotionally what he deals with is very taxing. Burnout is very much real. Especially in this era of college athletics....

[Reign of Terrier]

Not saying hot seat but would W&M and Mike London benefit from exploring options? The Tribe seem stuck in neutral with him leading the way.....

Would Sgarlata walk away from the Hoyas? It's been a looong decade and the ceiling seems to be .500 at best ....

I could be wrong, but I think I’ve lurked on the W&M boards and they imply that their program is slightly underfunded? Obviously, I have no idea. I visited Williamsburg last year for the Wofford game, and it didn’t seem too impressive of a city, once you got past the historical tourist stuff. So, I could be wrong about all that, but I could be convinced that it’s hard to win there, and in that case, London is doing great.


Kerwin Bell is not on the hot seat at Western Carolina but there are very loud whispers that the Catamounts will be looking for a new coach soon

Is he wanted for other jobs or contemplating retirement?

[acbearkat]

Prairie View A&M is making a head coaching change.

Sources: Prairie View A&M making coaching change - Footballscoop (https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-prairie-view-a-m-making-coaching-change)

[FUBeAR]

Kerwin Bell is not on the hot seat at Western Carolina but there are very loud whispers that the Catamounts will be looking for a new coach soon
Is he wanted for other jobs or contemplating retirement?
FUBeAR heard he has applied for the SoCon’s Head of Officiating job.

[caribbeanhen]

FUBeAR heard he has applied for the SoCon’s Head of Officiating job.

Kade flips the table on Papa Bell and let him come consult Kade when he’s hired as a head coach

[Libertine]

FCS-adjacent:

Former WCU Catamount Blake Harrell has dropped the interim tag at East Carolina. He'll be the Head Pirate for the immediate future.

[WestCoastAggie]

Coach Brown's seat should be on fire in Greensboro. It remains to be seen if a buyout occurs this week or not.

[catamountalum04]

He is close to being hired by UNCC


I could be wrong, but I think I’ve lurked on the W&M boards and they imply that their program is slightly underfunded? Obviously, I have no idea. I visited Williamsburg last year for the Wofford game, and it didn’t seem too impressive of a city, once you got past the historical tourist stuff. So, I could be wrong about all that, but I could be convinced that it’s hard to win there, and in that case, London is doing great.



Is he wanted for other jobs or contemplating retirement?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

FCS-adjacent:

Former WCU Catamount Blake Harrell has dropped the interim tag at East Carolina. He'll be the Head Pirate for the immediate future.

The Pirates were better down the stretch but this move surprises me. ECU continues to chase past success in a drastically different world so I figured they would try for someone splashy. Harrell must have done a great job engaging alums/fans/NIL linchpins....

[McCowboys]

McNeese fires Gary Goff: https://mcneesesports.com/news/2024/11/25/mcneese-announces-football-leadership-change.aspx

[FUBeAR]

McNeese fires Gary Goff: https://mcneesesports.com/news/2024/11/25/mcneese-announces-football-leadership-change.aspx
Surprising to FUBeAR. Such success at Valdosta and went from 0-10 to 6-6 this year. Don’t follow the Cowboys closely, but that kind of year over year improvement would seem to warrant another season. After 0-10 in ‘23, what were the expectations for him this year?

[McCowboys]

Surprising to FUBeAR. Such success at Valdosta and went from 0-10 to 6-6 this year. Don’t follow the Cowboys closely, but that kind of year over year improvement would seem to warrant another season. After 0-10 in ‘23, what were the expectations for him this year?

Lots of off field and on field drama, lack of discipline, penalties galore, questionable play calling, etc. He is a good man. Maybe too nice. Six wins might have saved him if not for the other issues.
Are you looking for a job?

[FUBeAR]

Lots of off field and on field drama, lack of discipline, penalties galore, questionable play calling, etc. He is a good man. Maybe too nice. Six wins might have saved him if not for the other issues.
Are you looking for a job?
LOL - as a matter of fact, FUBeAR and Partners recently sold our company and FUBeAR is, currently, considering his options for his ‘next thing.’ Undoubtedly, the hired Search Firm has FUBeAR’s contact info…Will wait to hear from them. FUBeAR loves Louisiana - used to have a Corporate Apartment on Jefferson Hwy, outside of NOLA, and would spend 2 or 3 weeks a month traveling the state with the local Sales Reps for our company - laissez bon temps rouler!

On another interesting note…seeing Penalties are such a big part of why he was terminated, yet WCU peeps are fretting the possible loss of their Head Coach, while WCU’s penalty issues, fairly significantly, at least statistically, exceeded McNeese’s. To each fan base, their own, it seems. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Libertine]

On another interesting note…seeing Penalties are such a big part of why he was terminated, yet WCU peeps are fretting the possible loss of their Head Coach,

Penalties and drama only matter to a coach's job security when the admin has already given up on them.

[McCowboys]

LOL - as a matter of fact, FUBeAR and Partners recently sold our company and FUBeAR is, currently, considering his options for his ‘next thing.’ Undoubtedly, the hired Search Firm has FUBeAR’s contact info…Will wait to hear from them. FUBeAR loves Louisiana - used to have a Corporate Apartment on Jefferson Hwy, outside of NOLA, and would spend 2 or 3 weeks a month traveling the state with the local Sales Reps for our company - laissez bon temps rouler!

On another interesting note…seeing Penalties are such a big part of why he was terminated, yet WCU peeps are fretting the possible loss of their Head Coach, while WCU’s penalty issues, fairly significantly, at least statistically, exceeded McNeese’s. To each fan base, their own, it seems. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The last 3 coaches have been "outsiders." I believe they are looking for a coach with McNeese connections, but go ahead and put your name in the hat!

I live in the Houston area, and so I am not in on the day to day activities of the athletic programs, but this is very telling: Goff's buyout of $260,000 plus extras to add up to around $350,000 and McNeese sponsors stepped up to buyout the contract!
Interestingly, the defensive coordinator was kept as the interim coach, but I imagine lots of the ire was directed at him for his "prevent defense" plays on 3rd and long.

[bonarae]

We're a few hours away from some action. Monday is traditionally the day when things get decided/settled...

Stan Dakotsy, Joe Conlin, and Chris Merritt are who I'll be keeping an extra close eye on today.....

No updates from the schools they are coaches in, so far today. Maybe wait until after Thanksgiving.

[Libertine]

No updates from the schools they are coaches in, so far today. Maybe wait until after Thanksgiving.

No kidding. This is typically Black Monday for FCS coaches. This has been Slightly Off-White Monday if anything.

[bonarae]

Dawson Odums out at Norfolk State as well.

https://theanalyst.com/na/2024/11/fcs-football-head-coaching-changes-2024-2025-offseason

[Go...gate]

Stan Dakosty still in at Colgate. I wonder if being an alum and having had to suffer under Niki Moore gets Stan another year.

[ngineer]

Stan Dakosty still in at Colgate. I wonder if being an alum and having had to suffer under Niki Moore gets Stan another year.

Was he on a multi-year contract, or has he been extended another year?

[Go...gate]

Historically, Colgate has used four or five year contracts.

[WestCoastAggie]

Coach Brown's seat should be on fire in Greensboro. It remains to be seen if a buyout occurs this week or not.

Coach Brown has been relieved of his duties. Announcement, coming soon.

[bonarae]

From another thread:

NDSU fans, your wish has been granted. Schweigert moving to an associate AD role at UND.

[BisonFan02]

From another thread:

NDSU fans, your wish has been granted. Schweigert moving to an associate AD role at UND.

Our wish? I, for one, wish UND would sign Bubba for life.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Dakosty out at Colgate? Official word?

[McCowboys]

Back in the saddle: Viator returning to Cowboys
McNeese rehires former McNeese Hall of Fame Coach Matt Viator


Read more at: https://www.americanpress.com/2024/12/02/back-in-the-saddle-viator-returning-to-cowboys/

[Panther88]

Prairie View A&M is making a head coaching change.

Sources: Prairie View A&M making coaching change - Footballscoop (https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-prairie-view-a-m-making-coaching-change)

Some of us want Briles.

[Libertine]

Alabama A&M has fired Connell Maynor after seven seasons.. Maynor had previously been the HC at Hampton.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Official, Dakosty is out...

https://colgateathletics.com/news/2024/12/2/colgate-announces-change-in-football-leadership.aspx

[Libertine]

Dakosty out at Colgate? Official word?

It is so.

https://twitter.com/ColgateFB/status/1863705554738163930

[McCowboys]

Some of us want Briles.

Which one? Art is 68 years old. The fans at Grambling had a fit when it was announced he was being hired as an assistant.

[Puddin Tane]

Some of us want Briles.

hide your daughters

[bonarae]

Nicholls: Rebowe finally retires. DC Rybacki is now full-time HC.

https://geauxcolonels.com/news/2024/12/1/football-rebowe-announces-retirement-rybacki-to-be-named-head-coach.aspx

[caribbeanhen]

Hey Dad, How come all these coaching changes never seem to amount to squat

Dad: Because it’s more about players son, the coaches know it’s about Jimmies and Joes, but they sell you on there X’s and O’s

Son: So coaches really don’t get dumber? They just got beat on the recruiting?

Dad: you learn quick my boy

[Pards Rule]

It is so.

https://twitter.com/ColgateFB/status/1863705554738163930


He should have sent another letter over Thanksgiving

[Libertine]

Brian Young is out at Stetson.

https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/sports/college/football/2024/12/03/brian-young-resigns-stetson-hatters-football-coach/76745738007/

Former Cal Poly OC Sheldon Cross has been named interim HC.

[bonarae]

Lee Hull out at Delaware State, as well as the school's AD.

https://www.wdel.com/news/delaware-state-removes-football-coach-athletic-director-following-second-straight-1-win-season/article_a4e40068-b1d9-11ef-a98a-773043b90d57.html

[Libertine]

FCS-adjacent: Former Maine HC Joe Harasymiak is set to take over the program at UMass as they return to the MAC.

[caribbeanhen]

Lee Hull out at Delaware State, as well as the school's AD.

https://www.wdel.com/news/delaware-state-removes-football-coach-athletic-director-following-second-straight-1-win-season/article_a4e40068-b1d9-11ef-a98a-773043b90d57.html

what a mess

[FUBeAR]

what a mess
Have you applied for the DelSt HC job yet?

[caribbeanhen]

Have you applied for the DelSt HC job yet?

no because I would be afraid my phone would ring

maybe a reality show where Nick Saban goes into the cliffs of Dover dressed in disguise just to see what would happen.... The Dover experiment

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

no because I would be afraid my phone would ring

maybe a reality show where Nick Saban goes into the cliffs of Dover dressed in disguise just to see what would happen.... The Dover experiment

I attended both NASCAR races at Dover for 20 straight years (1990 through 2010) and still remember "what once was". That in mind, there's natural symmetry having Route 13 bisecting Dover Speedway and Delaware State. Not sure which place has been more poorly managed....

[FUBeAR]

I attended both NASCAR races at Dover for 20 straight years (1990 through 2010) and still remember "what once was". That in mind, there's natural symmetry having Route 13 bisecting Dover Speedway and Delaware State. Not sure which place has been more poorly managed....
Air Force Base right there too. But FUBeAR will end this post right here…and stay out of trouble.

[NY Crusader 2010]

Del State has to be one of the 5 hardest places to win in FCS. Up there with Indiana State, Georgetown, Valparaiso and Mississippi Valley.

[DFW HOYA]

Del State has to be one of the 5 hardest places to win in FCS. Up there with Indiana State, Georgetown, Valparaiso and Mississippi Valley.

Five schools with absolutely nothing in common between them, beyond win-loss records.

[caribbeanhen]

Air Force Base right there too. But FUBeAR will end this post right here…and stay out of trouble.

You better because CH worked at the Lake Shore Deli right off RT 13 in Laurel when he was in HS ....

[topher99]

Vincent Brown out at NC A&T

[acbearkat]

Jerry Rice's alma mater has made a head coaching change.

Source: Mississippi Valley State has let go Kendrick Wade - Footballscoop (https://footballscoop.com/news/source-mississippi-valley-state-has-let-go-kendrick-wade)

[bonarae]

Mike Uremovich moves to G5 Ball State.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42772202/sources-ball-state-football-hires-mike-uremovich-head-coach

[WestCoastAggie]

Vincent Brown out at NC A&T

I told y'all last week he was gone. LOL

The new coach, who isn't new to the program, won't be announced until next week. Alumni know who it is and they're pretty excited.

[DFW HOYA]

Who knew the Pioneer seats were a stepping stone? Five of 11 seats are now open:

Butler (left for HC at Ball State)
Davidson (left for HC at Rice)
Drake (left for HC at Northern Iowa)
Stetson (resigned)
Valparaiso (contract not renewed)

[Panther88]

Which one? Art is 68 years old. The fans at Grambling had a fit when it was announced he was being hired as an assistant.


hide your daughters

I was told he "repented."

[Go Green]

Who knew the Pioneer seats were a stepping stone?



Jim Harbaugh?

:)

[crusader11]

Who knew the Pioneer seats were a stepping stone? Five of 11 seats are now open:

Butler (left for HC at Ball State)
Davidson (left for HC at Rice)
Drake (left for HC at Northern Iowa)
Stetson (resigned)
Valparaiso (contract not renewed)

That's an impressive jump from PFL to FBS.

[dewey]

Our wish? I, for one, wish UND would sign Bubba for life.

Agreed. I thought Bubba did a great job of keeping GFCC mediocre and I was hopeful he would keep them there forever.

Dewey

[bonarae]

Nathan Brown lost in the shuffle at UCA; he was demoted to OC and QB coach.

[McCowboys]

Nathan Brown lost in the shuffle at UCA; he was demoted to OC and QB coach.

Wow! xeyebrowx

[Libertine]

Nathan Brown lost in the shuffle at UCA; he was demoted to OC and QB coach.


No, that's wrong. Nathan Brown is still the Head Coach at UCA and he is taking over the OC/QB coach role previously held by Ken Collums.

https://ucasports.com/news/2024/11/26/football-brown-to-restructure-coaching-staff.aspx

[topher99]

Looks like Drew Folmar may be out as OC/QB coach at Elon. The OC job is listed on Elon's HR site.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Looks like Drew Folmar may be out as OC/QB coach at Elon. The OC job is listed on Elon's HR site.

If so, he'll land on his feet quickly imo. He's a good coach....

[WestCoastAggie]

A&T has their next coach in Fort Valley State U HC Shawn Gibbs. He previously coached at A&T as the Recruiting Coordinator/Run Game Coordinator/RB Coach under Rod Broadway and Sam Washington. He's most known for the recruitment of A&T great and NFL Alumnus Tarik Cohen who's rumored to be joining Gibbs' staff.

[uofmman1122]

Andy Thompson resigns at Sac State. Rumor is he's joining Troy Taylor's staff at Stanford.

https://x.com/SacHornetsFB/status/1865079158327644482

[SeattleCat]

Andy Thompson resigns at Sac State. Rumor is he's joining Troy Taylor's staff at Stanford.

https://x.com/SacHornetsFB/status/1865079158327644482


Guessing that means there is 0 hope of an FBS invite for Sac.

[uofmman1122]

Guessing that means there is 0 hope of an FBS invite for Sac.
That was always the case lol

[ngineer]

If so, he'll land on his feet quickly imo. He's a good coach....

I liked Folmar when he was at Lehigh as the OC for two or three years. Thought he might be headed for the Elon job down the road, after Lembo go t them turned around 15 or so years ago.

[Libertine]

From another thread:

NDSU fans, your wish has been granted. Schweigert moving to an associate AD role at UND.

Bubba's been replaced.

https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?371438-North-Dakota-hires-Eric-Schmidt-as-new-HC&p=3228880#post3228880

[Libertine]

Interesting news out of Norfolk today. The Virginian-Pilot is reporting that, to fill their vacant head coaching position, NSU has interviewed former Tidewater and NFL legend -- as well as member of the Top Ten Most Wanted by the Westminster Dog Show -- Michael Vick.

https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/12/16/michael-vick-in-talks-to-become-norfolk-state-head-coach/

[WestCoastAggie]

Interesting news out of Norfolk today. The Virginian-Pilot is reporting that, to fill their vacant head coaching position, NSU has interviewed former Tidewater and NFL legend -- as well as member of the Top Ten Most Wanted by the Westminster Dog Show -- Michael Vick.

https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/12/16/michael-vick-in-talks-to-become-norfolk-state-head-coach/

Adam Shefter then reported Sacramento State is also serious about hiring Michael Vick. Something about $50 million for NIL was mentioned too.

[uofmman1122]

Adam Shefter then reported Sacramento State is also serious about hiring Michael Vick. Something about $50 million for NIL was mentioned too.
A SacBee reporter came out and confirmed with the school that it is not true (about Vick).

Also, the $50M in NIL is specifically money *pledged* contingent on Sac joining the Pac-12, and is money that they yet do not have.

[JacksFan40]

A SacBee reporter came out and confirmed with the school that it is not true (about Vick).

Also, the $50M in NIL is specifically money *pledged* contingent on Sac joining the Pac-12, and is money that they yet do not have.
Not sure why Sac State thinks the PAC-12 would even want them. If they wanted another California school they’d invite San Jose. Sac should focus on actually being a consistent power in the FCS.

[POD Knows]

Not sure why Sac State thinks the PAC-12 would even want them. If they wanted another California school they’d invite San Jose. Sac should focus on actually being a consistent power in the FCS.
It doesn’t matter if you are any good or a factor in FCS in order to step up to FBS. That should be pretty obvious by now. The PAC 12 is a stretch for Sac State but they will absolutely make the jump to FBS before any Dakota team does.

[JacksFan40]

It doesn’t matter if you are any good or a factor in FCS in order to step up to FBS. That should be pretty obvious by now. The PAC 12 is a stretch for Sac State but they will absolutely make the jump to FBS before any Dakota team does.
Judging by the rumors that the P4 is preventing any FCS move ups, I don’t think any of us are going up. If the PAC-12 expands it’ll be by poaching some AAC teams or Texas State. No way they’d bring in an FCS team. Judging by UC Davis joining the MWC for everything but football I’d say they’re the next up anyways.

My point about Sac State was that they should focus on actually being good at this level instead of chasing this fantasy that the PAC-12 will ever invite them.

[Libertine]

FootballScoop is reporting that Davidson is poised to hire Saj Thakkar from D2 Bentley. No external confirmation of that and I'm not sure what the mutual appeal would be here. For Davidson, Thakkar has only briefly worked outside the state of Massachusetts and doesn't really have an established track record. Thakkar has never worked anywhere south of Long Island and would be going to a school in suburban North Carolina that doesn't particularly pull students from the northeast. It is, however, a way out of Bentley which seems to be a troubled program of late.

[WestCoastAggie]

Tremaine Jackson to Prairie View A&M is heating up. Don't be surprised to hear about this after the D2 national championship game. My question is will he end up like Rod Broadway who had success at Grambling and A&T or will he end up like Connell Maynor at Hampton and AAMU?

[topher99]

Sac St president confirms he has spoken with Vick.

https://footballscoop.com/news/sacramento-state-in-discussions-to-hire-michael-vick


A SacBee reporter came out and confirmed with the school that it is not true (about Vick).

Also, the $50M in NIL is specifically money *pledged* contingent on Sac joining the Pac-12, and is money that they yet do not have.

[uofmman1122]

Sac St president confirms he has spoken with Vick.

https://footballscoop.com/news/sacramento-state-in-discussions-to-hire-michael-vick
Yeah, I saw the Sac reporter deleted his tweet.

[bonarae]

Sac gets UNLV OC instead.

Norfolk State gets Vick, makes it official.

[bonarae]

Davidson gets Saj Thakkar from D-II Bentley.

https://davidsonwildcats.com/news/2024/12/17/davidson-names-saj-thakkar-head-football-coach

[Libertine]

Sac gets UNLV OC instead.

Interesting choice. I don't know what to make of this hire. Marion has been coaching for 15 years -- including stops as OC at Howard and W&M -- but has never been anywhere longer than two seasons and, until the last two years at UNLV, nothing remarkable stood out about any of them.


Norfolk State gets Vick, makes it official.

This makes no sense from a coaching perspective because, well, Vick isn't a coach. Once again, an HBCU is taking their shot at landing the next Deion Sanders and, once again, they'll be wrong. Also, I can't think of a faster way for an admin to tell their athletes that they consider them to be nothing more than marketing props than to hire an amateur as their coach. Publicity does not equal prominence.

[Libertine]

Davidson gets Saj Thakkar from D-II Bentley.

https://davidsonwildcats.com/news/2024/12/17/davidson-names-saj-thakkar-head-football-coach

Good for him for getting out of Bentley.

[Pards Rule]

Good for him for getting out of Bentley.

Omg only time other than this,​I heard of Bentley is our damn like 5'5" maybe 5'6" returner transferred to there. I had to look it up. One Jet Collie if Pard fans recall the stature, if not the name LOL

[ST_Lawson]

This makes no sense from a coaching perspective because, well, Vick isn't a coach. Once again, an HBCU is taking their shot at landing the next Deion Sanders and, once again, they'll be wrong. Also, I can't think of a faster way for an admin to tell their athletes that they consider them to be nothing more than marketing props than to hire an amateur as their coach. Publicity does not equal prominence.

It also seems like it worked for Tennessee State with Eddie George. As far as I can tell, he had no paid coaching experience until he was hired at TSU in 2021. This year, got them to 9-3 in the regular season, ranked in the top 25, and playing in the first round of the FCS playoffs. He's not quite the "brand" that Deion is, but has done a solid job despite being a "big name/no experience" HC.

[caribbeanhen]

Interesting choice. I don't know what to make of this hire. Marion has been coaching for 15 years -- including stops as OC at Howard and W&M -- but has never been anywhere longer than two seasons and, until the last two years at UNLV, nothing remarkable stood out about any of them.



This makes no sense from a coaching perspective because, well, Vick isn't a coach. Once again, an HBCU is taking their shot at landing the next Deion Sanders and, once again, they'll be wrong. Also, I can't think of a faster way for an admin to tell their athletes that they consider them to be nothing more than marketing props than to hire an amateur as their coach. Publicity does not equal prominence.

Vick will be an interesting experiment as I always say it's more about recruiting and getting good players, sure coaching is important but there is a reason why they recruit so hard

[Libertine]

It also seems like it worked for Tennessee State with Eddie George. As far as I can tell, he had no paid coaching experience until he was hired at TSU in 2021. This year, got them to 9-3 in the regular season, ranked in the top 25, and playing in the first round of the FCS playoffs. He's not quite the "brand" that Deion is, but has done a solid job despite being a "big name/no experience" HC.

I highlighted the operative phrase there. In the three previous seasons since George was hired, TSU went 5-6 (3-3), 4-7 (2-3), and 6-5 (2-4). Also of note, the combined Big South / OVC conference is a weaker conference now together than either ever had been before and apart. Out of conference, TSU was 3-0 against other HBCU's but was absolutely housed by NDSU in their only other OOC competition that wasn't the playoffs. Typically, Year 4 is when coaches reap the benefits of their first recruiting classes and, therefore, achieve the most, so congrats to Eddie George on the accomplishments of this year and the awards associated with it, but next year's results will be far more revealing about his ability to build a program.

[dbackjon]

Judging by the rumors that the P4 is preventing any FCS move ups, I don’t think any of us are going up. If the PAC-12 expands it’ll be by poaching some AAC teams or Texas State. No way they’d bring in an FCS team. Judging by UC Davis joining the MWC for everything but football I’d say they’re the next up anyways.

My point about Sac State was that they should focus on actually being good at this level instead of chasing this fantasy that the PAC-12 will ever invite them.
The P4 is not preventing FCS call ups. They would like them to be more suitable. A large public, R1, AAU university like UC-Davis will bring no objections from the P4

[uofmman1122]

Thomas Ford (Oregon State RB coach) to Idaho as HC.

https://x.com/VandalFootball/status/1869476839967830127

[POD Knows]

The P4 is not preventing FCS call ups. They would like them to be more suitable. A large public, R1, AAU university like UC-Davis will bring no objections from the P4
Holy crap, does Davis have an excess of 38K undergrads?? I didn't think that college was that big

[dbackjon]

Holy crap, does Davis have an excess of 38K undergrads?? I didn't think that college was that big

I think Undergrads are 32K, 8 K Graduates
And an endowment over $2 Billion.

Still a huge school

[MSUBobcat]

I highlighted the operative phrase there. In the three previous seasons since George was hired, TSU went 5-6 (3-3), 4-7 (2-3), and 6-5 (2-4). Also of note, the combined Big South / OVC conference is a weaker conference now together than either ever had been before and apart. Out of conference, TSU was 3-0 against other HBCU's but was absolutely housed by NDSU in their only other OOC competition that wasn't the playoffs. Typically, Year 4 is when coaches reap the benefits of their first recruiting classes and, therefore, achieve the most, so congrats to Eddie George on the accomplishments of this year and the awards associated with it, but next year's results will be far more revealing about his ability to build a program.

You also gotta look at what he started with. In 2020, 2-5 (.286); 2019 3-9 (.250); 2018, 4-5 (.444). The Tigers weren't a good team before George and his only his worst year (4-7) wasn't better than the previous 3 years. As you said, "his" recruits are seniors or R-JR's this year and they put a pretty solid season together, making the playoffs for the first time in over a decade. It's also hard to dismiss this season for getting housed by NDSU because they made it a game against the Griz, scoring to get within 7 with 3 minutes to play. Hard to argue that George isn't working out, even with no coaching experience. Of course, this is a small sample size and could be a flash in the pan, but so far TSU has to be liking the hire.

[Panther88]

Tremaine Jackson to Prairie View A&M is heating up. Don't be surprised to hear about this after the D2 national championship game. My question is will he end up like Rod Broadway who had success at Grambling and A&T or will he end up like Connell Maynor at Hampton and AAMU?

We got him. Just couldn't say anything earlier until the official release. His staff and connectedness substantiated his previous successes and there's no direction for us to go but up.

[TribeNomad1]

I think Undergrads are 32K, 8 K Graduates
And an endowment over $2 Billion.

Still a huge school


is it primarily residential, or quite a commuter population? I left the West Coast decades ago and things I recall are now far different.