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McCowboys
August 20th, 2024, 08:08 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVbv6RDWEAAm-8a?format=jpg&name=large
DFW HOYA
August 20th, 2024, 08:32 PM
Except many of these are not Division I.
Laker
August 20th, 2024, 10:20 PM
This is for all levels- D1, D2, D3, NAIA.
PS- looks like I left off JCs.
The Cats
August 20th, 2024, 11:04 PM
May this is the FCS map you were looking for....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVTtHpAXAAA07ur?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
McCowboys
August 21st, 2024, 06:18 AM
May this is the FCS map you were looking for....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVTtHpAXAAA07ur?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Thanks!
Thanks to everyone else, too. Just getting old with poor eyesight. :-( I did think it looked a little crowded.
ElCid
August 21st, 2024, 10:27 AM
May this is the FCS map you were looking for....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVTtHpAXAAA07ur?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
I don't get it. The methodology. The Citadel area extends into GA, a lot. CSU covers a bigger area north of Charleston, but The Citadel does to the south. We are like 10 miles away from each other. PC covers a huge area of upstate and Wofford covers just two counties. WCU covers my county, but Furman butts up against us as well and is actually closer. And VMI covers half the state of WV?! Maybe I'm just not getting it.
Laker
August 21st, 2024, 11:11 AM
I don't get it. The methodology. The Citadel area extends into GA, a lot. CSU covers a bigger area north of Charleston, but The Citadel does to the south. We are like 10 miles away from each other. PC covers a huge area of upstate and Wofford covers just two counties. WCU covers my county, but Furman butts up against us as well and is actually closer. And VMI covers half the state of WV?! Maybe I'm just not getting it.
Someone explained that it is measured from the county seat to the college so the map follows counties. So the border of a county could be closer but the entire county isn't. I don't know who took all the time to do this but I spent an hour trying to balance my checkbook that was off by a penny from a computer program that was later found to be corrupt. I was right when I did it by hand- stubborn German.
Chalupa Batman
August 21st, 2024, 12:39 PM
Someone explained that it is measured from the county seat to the college so the map follows counties. So the border of a county could be closer but the entire county isn't. I don't know who took all the time to do this but I spent an hour trying to balance my checkbook that was off by a penny from a computer program that was later found to be corrupt. I was right when I did it by hand- stubborn German.
I thought it was county seat too, but it looks like it’s whatever stadium is closest to the geographic center of each county.
So, for those who have not seen this before, here's the rules:
To start, each county is awarded the team closest to their home stadium. It's based off the midpoint of each county and uses an equation that takes into account the curvature of the Earth.
After each week, the winning team will be awards all the land the losing team owns. If the losing team has no land, no land will be awarded.
Losses to DII, DIII, NAIA, and NCCAA teams will count and those smaller teams will win land on to the map if the losing FCS team has land to lose.
Losses to FBS teams do not count and will basically act as a by week. Although a win against an FBS team (with land) will get the FCS team onto the FBS map that I also do.
This map is a riot each week on the FCS Facebook page.
The Cats
August 21st, 2024, 12:46 PM
The map is published by Reddit FCS (on Twitter) @Reddit_FCS
(https://x.com/Reddit_FCS))
This is their rules....
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So, for those who have not seen this before, here's the rules:
To start, each county is awarded the team closest to their home stadium. It's based off the midpoint of each county and uses an equation that takes into account the curvature of the Earth.
After each week, the winning team will be awards all the land the losing team owns. If the losing team has no land, no land will be awarded.
Losses to DII, DIII, NAIA, and NCCAA teams will count and those smaller teams will win land on to the map if the losing FCS team has land to lose.
Losses to FBS teams do not count and will basically act as a by week. Although a win against an FBS team (with land) will get the FCS team onto the FBS map that I also do.
So here are the starting Top 5 by Land:
Portland State - 577,238.7 sq mi
Northern Colorado - 235,018.9 sq mi
Abilene Christian - 172,018.9 sq mi
Northern Arizona - 156,589.6 sq mi
Montana State - 133,112.3 sq mi
The Top 5 by Population:
San Diego - 21,603,200
Valparaiso - 18,956,710
Stetson - 17,853,843
Portland State - 10,792,734
UC Davis - 9,620,667
ElCid
August 21st, 2024, 06:26 PM
Ok. I get it. Just kind of arbitrary in regard to counties. But I get you have to start somewhere so this is as good as any method. Interesting. Maybe someone could post this each week. Looks fun.
JacksFan40
August 21st, 2024, 06:28 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVbv6RDWEAAm-8a?format=jpg&name=large
Presentation doesn’t exist anymore so it’s a little out of date.
Bisonoline
August 21st, 2024, 06:58 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVbv6RDWEAAm-8a?format=jpg&name=large
Who ever did this hasnt a clue.
jajfitz
August 22nd, 2024, 05:06 PM
Am I the only one who sees a blank post? I see no map/maps.
Bisonoline
August 22nd, 2024, 06:08 PM
Am I the only one who sees a blank post? I see no map/maps.
Youre not missing anything.
MSUBobcat
August 22nd, 2024, 07:06 PM
Youre not missing anything.
I, for one, think the Imperialism map is kinda cool. But you're looking at the wrong one that includes FBS, D2, D3, NAIA and possibly JuCo (per Laker). The FCS-only map is interesting, IMO.
Laker
August 23rd, 2024, 08:37 AM
I, for one, think the Imperialism map is kinda cool. But you're looking at the wrong one that includes FBS, D2, D3, NAIA and possibly JuCo (per Laker). The FCS-only map is interesting, IMO.
Yes, northern Minnesota shows several JCs- MN is down to six that play football- they had to add ND School of Sciences to have enough. When I was playing, there were two divisions- and you still didn't play one team in your own division in an eight team schedule. Unfortunately, the school that I played for- Ridgewater- dropped football a few years ago.
coriander_seed
August 23rd, 2024, 10:02 AM
I like that Eastern controls the North Slope Borough. They have ANWR and NPRA. :)
The Cats
August 26th, 2024, 09:10 PM
https://twitter.com/Reddit_FCS/status/1828230553398604044
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GV8tFzVW4AASvwg?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
MSUBobcat
August 27th, 2024, 01:43 PM
The map is published by Reddit FCS (on Twitter) @Reddit_FCS
(https://x.com/Reddit_FCS))
This is their rules....
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So, for those who have not seen this before, here's the rules:
To start, each county is awarded the team closest to their home stadium. It's based off the midpoint of each county and uses an equation that takes into account the curvature of the Earth.
After each week, the winning team will be awards all the land the losing team owns. If the losing team has no land, no land will be awarded.
Losses to DII, DIII, NAIA, and NCCAA teams will count and those smaller teams will win land on to the map if the losing FCS team has land to lose.
Losses to FBS teams do not count and will basically act as a by week. Although a win against an FBS team (with land) will get the FCS team onto the FBS map that I also do.
So here are the starting Top 5 by Land:
Portland State - 577,238.7 sq mi
Northern Colorado - 235,018.9 sq mi
Abilene Christian - 172,018.9 sq mi
Northern Arizona - 156,589.6 sq mi
Montana State - 133,112.3 sq mi
The Top 5 by Population:
San Diego - 21,603,200
Valparaiso - 18,956,710
Stetson - 17,853,843
Portland State - 10,792,734
UC Davis - 9,620,667
Over 26M in population up for grabs in the Cal Poly-San Diego game. A Poly win and they may hold the territory/population for a while, with 2 non-FCS, then @NoCo and home vs Idaho State. If Davis also gets to the Oct. 12th game unscathed in FCS competition, there could be over 40M population up for grabs, with what Davis would be bringing to the table potentially. A Toreros win likely means North Dakota will own about 33x the population of the state after the Sept 21st matchup in Grand Forks.
FUBeAR
August 27th, 2024, 02:48 PM
Over 26M in population up for grabs in the Cal Poly-San Diego game. A Poly win and they may hold the territory/population for a while, with 2 non-FCS, then @NoCo and home vs Idaho State. If Davis also gets to the Oct. 12th game unscathed in FCS competition, there could be over 40M population up for grabs, with what Davis would be bringing to the table potentially. A Toreros win likely means North Dakota will own about 33x the population of the state after the Sept 21st matchup in Grand Forks.
Just FUBEAR being FUBeAR - NOT POLITICAL - JUST FUN … maybe …
1) Assign each FCS Team as part of Team Red or Team Blue depending on how their home County/Parish voted in the 2020 Presidential Election.
2) Tabulate - by total Population of those Counties (not broken down by how that population voted), whether Team Red or Team Blue would have ‘won’ what State by summing those county Populations and then tabulate the Electoral Vote Totals (using 2024) to get an initial FCS Electoral Score. NOTE: 12 states (Alaska (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska), Hawaii (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii), Kansas (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas), Michigan (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan), Nebraska (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebraska), Nevada (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada), New Mexico (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico), Oklahoma (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma), Vermont (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont), West Virginia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia), Wisconsin (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin) and Wyoming (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming)) do not currently have FCS programs.…so we’d have to work out the logic for their initial ‘assignment’
3) As games are played, territories will be won and lost … and their populations / electoral votes will go with the Territory.
4) Weekly updates on whether Red or Blue is winning and and their paths to “victory” by the weekend of 11/2.
So, let’s say there is a bizun fan who is Team BLUE all the way…and losing to S. Illinois is the only way for BLUE to clinch the victory. Who does that bizun fan want to win?
Anyway - just mentally riffing - one of these Reddit types could have fun with it if they were so inclined.
Bisonoline
August 27th, 2024, 08:38 PM
https://twitter.com/Reddit_FCS/status/1828230553398604044
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GV8tFzVW4AASvwg?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Whats the team between Western Illinois and Semo????
JacksFan40
August 27th, 2024, 08:42 PM
Whats the team between Western Illinois and Semo????
Lindenwood
The Cats
September 3rd, 2024, 05:28 PM
http://twitter.com/Reddit_FCS/status/1831065930413306190
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWlARRGXQAA5pY0?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
The Cats
September 9th, 2024, 08:34 PM
https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/458984897_10159634386512126_8440582783120124090_n. jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=zQ0oSbtHRWMQ7kNvgF6MNQd&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-2.xx&oh=00_AYDpa6Fog-QvEV2KvL6bsUSt-GZ3BEMbjcIwUkM88uJ2YA&oe=66E57ADF
RahRahRabbits
September 9th, 2024, 09:30 PM
That USF (University of Sioux Falls) in MN/WI is going to be a major untouchable blight on this map for the rest of the year. Cripes. Way to go St. Thomas.....
The Cats
September 16th, 2024, 09:17 PM
after week 3 of play...
http://twitter.com/Reddit_FCS/status/1835839394210533606
MSUBobcat
September 17th, 2024, 06:03 PM
That USF (University of Sioux Falls) in MN/WI is going to be a major untouchable blight on this map for the rest of the year. Cripes. Way to go St. Thomas.....
While not the MAJOR untouchable blight of USF, I just noticed Kutztown owns a chunk of SE Ohio. Well done, RMU.... xasswhipx
The Cats
September 23rd, 2024, 06:43 PM
http://twitter.com/Reddit_FCS/status/1838345445967347871
RahRahRabbits
September 24th, 2024, 10:41 AM
http://twitter.com/Reddit_FCS/status/1838345445967347871
Univ of Sioux Fall's territory has been lost to Bemidji State (MN)! I was waiting to see if they'd be tracking the DII moves.
Scanning through the schedule of the DII NSIC (https://northernsun.org/calendar.aspx?path=football), I didn't see anyone with a late D1 game for whatever reason. The greater MN/Wisconsin area that St Thomas lost is firmly stuck with the DII for the year, and specifically NSIC for the rest of the regular season at least.
MSUBobcat
September 24th, 2024, 12:18 PM
Univ of Sioux Fall's territory has been lost to Bemidji State (MN)! I was waiting to see if they'd be tracking the DII moves.
Scanning through the schedule of the DII NSIC (https://northernsun.org/calendar.aspx?path=football), I didn't see anyone with a late D1 game for whatever reason. The greater MN/Wisconsin area that St Thomas lost is firmly stuck with the DII for the year, and specifically NSIC for the rest of the regular season at least.
Yes, they changed Edinboro's land (obtained from Robert Morris) to Kutztown the week prior. This blight in SW Ohio will be up for grabs in the battle of 3-0 titans this weekend between Kutztown and East Stroudsburg of the PSAC East. Interestingly, after having lost it's "home territory" to a DII, Bobby Mo now has more territory in Delaware than the flagship school transitioning to FBS does (beat Wagner to take Delaware State's land and Sacred Heart's, which Del State held).
caribbeanhen
September 24th, 2024, 12:30 PM
I don't get it. The methodology. The Citadel area extends into GA, a lot. CSU covers a bigger area north of Charleston, but The Citadel does to the south. We are like 10 miles away from each other. PC covers a huge area of upstate and Wofford covers just two counties. WCU covers my county, but Furman butts up against us as well and is actually closer. And VMI covers half the state of WV?! Maybe I'm just not getting it.
and Stetson, C'mon man nobody in Florida outside of Deland has even heard of em
The Cats
October 1st, 2024, 05:01 PM
https://twitter.com/Reddit_FCS/status/1841205196510163316
The Cats
October 15th, 2024, 08:47 PM
https://twitter.com/Reddit_FCS/status/1846322602073071659
Keeper
October 16th, 2024, 04:22 AM
https://twitter.com/Reddit_FCS/status/1841205196510163316
Somehow, I am absolutely terrified by this. xembarrassedx
MUHAWKS
October 16th, 2024, 10:45 PM
i never understood this- sort of like crypto, maybe I am missing out, but just something telling me stay away..
RahRahRabbits
October 17th, 2024, 12:25 PM
i never understood this- sort of like crypto, maybe I am missing out, but just something telling me stay away..
What's not to understand, Muhawks? Counties are divvied out at the beginning of the year based on distance from home stadium to midpoint of the county. If you win, you keep your land and take your opponents (if they have any left). If you lose, your opponent takes your land. If two teams are playing that had lost their land already, then that outcome has no impact on this map. There are specific maps for FBS, FCS, and all of D1. Typically a lower division team can take land from a higher division (which is why DII Sioux Falls/Bemidji State/Northern State have held St. Thomas's Minnesota territory all year... while for the FCS-specific map, FBS victories don't earn their land (how NDSU and SDSU didn't lose it to Colorado and Oklahoma State). The all of division 1 map is absolutely diabolical (https://imgur.com/a/vTpbsVg).
It's all a meaningless thing just for fun - I think people that enjoy generally enjoy geography, war history, or territory games like Risk, Axis & Allies, or others. Or maybe they just get a kick out of it for any other reason.
It's a fickle thing too, totally dependent on scheduling. Whoever holds the most territory at the end of the year isn't necessarily the best team. You could be 11-0 and still only hold your original land if the team you play always loses the week prior, or had lost their land and not regained any back. Or you could lose your "home land" to someone else, and then win back significant chunks of land elsewhere. Take, North Alabama who just upset Abilene Christian. NA currently holds the most land area now (largely due to the Portland State Alaskan region), despite SEMO still holding North Alabama's home turf.
Whoever wins the Marker game this week will have the #1 land area spot even without holding Alaska - which is a pretty rare thing.
These originate off Reddit, a poster named dddeberry puts them together. He posts the images to Imgur (https://imgur.com/a/vvdGWK6) too, and includes captures of the spreadsheet controlling it - maybe that could help it make sense for you better.
My mom would say this is a good example of a lesson in the spread of transmittable diseases too --- anyone who has 'contact' with someone else's someone else, etc etc... can spread things in seemingly mysterious ways.
MUHAWKS
October 18th, 2024, 10:36 PM
What's not to understand, Muhawks? Counties are divvied out at the beginning of the year based on distance from home stadium to midpoint of the county. If you win, you keep your land and take your opponents (if they have any left). If you lose, your opponent takes your land. If two teams are playing that had lost their land already, then that outcome has no impact on this map. There are specific maps for FBS, FCS, and all of D1. Typically a lower division team can take land from a higher division (which is why DII Sioux Falls/Bemidji State/Northern State have held St. Thomas's Minnesota territory all year... while for the FCS-specific map, FBS victories don't earn their land (how NDSU and SDSU didn't lose it to Colorado and Oklahoma State). The all of division 1 map is absolutely diabolical (https://imgur.com/a/vTpbsVg).
It's all a meaningless thing just for fun - I think people that enjoy generally enjoy geography, war history, or territory games like Risk, Axis & Allies, or others. Or maybe they just get a kick out of it for any other reason.
It's a fickle thing too, totally dependent on scheduling. Whoever holds the most territory at the end of the year isn't necessarily the best team. You could be 11-0 and still only hold your original land if the team you play always loses the week prior, or had lost their land and not regained any back. Or you could lose your "home land" to someone else, and then win back significant chunks of land elsewhere. Take, North Alabama who just upset Abilene Christian. NA currently holds the most land area now (largely due to the Portland State Alaskan region), despite SEMO still holding North Alabama's home turf.
Whoever wins the Marker game this week will have the #1 land area spot even without holding Alaska - which is a pretty rare thing.
These originate off Reddit, a poster named dddeberry puts them together. He posts the images to Imgur (https://imgur.com/a/vvdGWK6) too, and includes captures of the spreadsheet controlling it - maybe that could help it make sense for you better.
My mom would say this is a good example of a lesson in the spread of transmittable diseases too --- anyone who has 'contact' with someone else's someone else, etc etc... can spread things in seemingly mysterious ways.
Ok I do not think I understood the whole thing about when you beat a team you do not automatically get that land and keep it. I keep looking to see why Monmouth did not have Maine land and some Florida land and that is what made me upset! LOL-- I also think I have an undiagnosed learning disability b/c I had to read your very thoughtful reply to me about 4 times!! I suck.
MSUBobcat
October 19th, 2024, 11:50 AM
Ok I do not think I understood the whole thing about when you beat a team you do not automatically get that land and keep it. I keep looking to see why Monmouth did not have Maine land and some Florida land and that is what made me upset! LOL-- I also think I have an undiagnosed learning disability b/c I had to read your very thoughtful reply to me about 4 times!! I suck.
Maine had no land when you played them. Their territory, which included Colgate's land won in Week 1, went to MSU. FIU had no land when you played either. They lost their home land to Indiana in week, but won Central Michigan's land in week 2. Then they lost to FAU, leaving you with nothing to win.
If Towson wins this weekend and maintains its current land, Monmouth would be playing for it next weekend.
The Cats
October 29th, 2024, 02:41 PM
https://twitter.com/Reddit_FCS/status/1851251387033665575
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