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FCS_pwns_FBS
January 16th, 2008, 10:50 PM
Sorry if this has already been posted but I scanned this subforum and didn't see anything that looked like it...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/14/sports/football/14dallas.html?ref=sports

At least McNabb made it to the superbowl...

TheValleyRaider
January 16th, 2008, 11:05 PM
It's making its way around the threads involving the unfortunate demise of the so-called "America's Team" :D

The full moment, in all it's teary detail, is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKx7tyYH7Ko&feature=bz303

tribe_pride
January 17th, 2008, 09:12 AM
While the teary part was over the top, he is right to a degree. The media had already said before the game they would blame Romo for a loss since he went to Mexico. Romo played a good game. His receivers were just dropping the ball all over the place. While he threw an int at the end of the game, I can't blame him for it. It was 4th down. If he had taken a sack, it would have been a lot worse.

This loss was not on Romo.

Gil Dobie
January 17th, 2008, 09:19 AM
It's not Fair
xbabycryx

Actually, once Romo matures, he'll probably take the Cowboys to the promised land. QB's are over-rated and under-rated. xoopsx

Killtoppers90
January 17th, 2008, 09:34 AM
It's making its way around the threads involving the unfortunate demise of the so-called "America's Team" :D

The full moment, in all it's teary detail, is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKx7tyYH7Ko&feature=bz303

I wouldn't call it a demise, because the Cowboys made the playoffs. But it seems that in the past few years December has been our Achille's Heel. It seems we (Cowboys fans) are in the midst of another run like we had in the 1980's - decent teams that really underachieve. I still lay it on the coaching.

813Jag
January 17th, 2008, 09:48 AM
I wouldn't call it a demise, because the Cowboys made the playoffs. But it seems that in the past few years December has been our Achille's Heel. It seems we (Cowboys fans) are in the midst of another run like we had in the 1980's - decent teams that really underachieve. I still lay it on the coaching.
As long as that did doesn't go to 1-15 again, it's all good. Romo still has some growing to do, this was his first full season starting. He can only get better. xthumbsupx

OB55
January 17th, 2008, 09:59 AM
http://thebiglead.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/romosimpsonyourerealpretty.jpg

Tony and squeeze before the big game last week,

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w97/wyogem/bd5c171e.jpg

Tim and squeeze before bowl season,

xconfusedxxconfusedxxconfusedx Could it be that all that stuff our old high school coach told us was true?? xconfusedxxconfusedxxconfusedx

TheValleyRaider
January 17th, 2008, 10:20 AM
I wouldn't call it a demise, because the Cowboys made the playoffs. But it seems that in the past few years December has been our Achille's Heel. It seems we (Cowboys fans) are in the midst of another run like we had in the 1980's - decent teams that really underachieve. I still lay it on the coaching.

Eh, I'm a Giants fan, you lost in the postseason, I'm calling it a demise for my own personal edification :D ;)

Seriously though, the 'Boys are a good team, and will continue to be a good team for the next couple of seasons (as much of a guarantee as you can really make in the NFL these days). Romo especially will be a very solid quarterback, but you could see elements of immaturity towards the end of the game when he was really under pressure. Once he gets that under control, he will be a real Super Bowl-caliber QB. Of course, having a better reciever than Patrick Crayton would help too...

813Jag
January 17th, 2008, 11:36 AM
Eh, I'm a Giants fan, you lost in the postseason, I'm calling it a demise for my own personal edification :D ;)

Seriously though, the 'Boys are a good team, and will continue to be a good team for the next couple of seasons (as much of a guarantee as you can really make in the NFL these days). Romo especially will be a very solid quarterback, but you could see elements of immaturity towards the end of the game when he was really under pressure. Once he gets that under control, he will be a real Super Bowl-caliber QB. Of course, having a better reciever than Patrick Crayton would help too...

That's the key, he came on much quicker than anyone expected to go from taking over a 3-3 team to going 13-3 in your first full season is pretty special. He just has to grow up and develop into a leader. I was at the game against the Texans last year when he replaced Bledsoe late in the game, you could see the spark he had.

Crayton only got the time he did because Glenn basically missed the whole season. A solid 3rd reciever (if Glenn is healthy) will go a long way in helping the team. A commitment to the running game will help as well. Marion Barber became an afterthought late in the season. He had a great first half against the Giants.

LacesOut
January 17th, 2008, 11:46 AM
To this day, I still wonder what problems/issues he had with McNabb and Garcia.

TheValleyRaider
January 17th, 2008, 12:09 PM
A commitment to the running game will help as well. Marion Barber became an afterthought late in the season. He had a great first half against the Giants.

I was wondering about him. Had he ever really gotten 30 carries like that in a game before? When they announced he was starting, I figured he'd just be getting more carries than Jones, but they'd still do their usually switching up. It would seem to me that a physical runner of his style could wear down easily when he hasn't played that much all season. Feel free to tell me if I'm way off in this analysis

yorkcountyUNHfan
January 17th, 2008, 12:27 PM
I was wondering about him. Had he ever really gotten 30 carries like that in a game before? When they announced he was starting, I figured he'd just be getting more carries than Jones, but they'd still do their usually switching up. It would seem to me that a physical runner of his style could wear down easily when he hasn't played that much all season. Feel free to tell me if I'm way off in this analysis

We talked during the game that it seemed he was running out of gas.

813Jag
January 17th, 2008, 01:17 PM
I was wondering about him. Had he ever really gotten 30 carries like that in a game before? When they announced he was starting, I figured he'd just be getting more carries than Jones, but they'd still do their usually switching up. It would seem to me that a physical runner of his style could wear down easily when he hasn't played that much all season. Feel free to tell me if I'm way off in this analysis
I don't remember seeing him carry that much of a load all season. I know on some drives he'd carry the ball the whole drive but as much as he did on Sunday. I think he's best at this stage of his career sharing the carries with more of a speed back. He's no where as big as Jacobs but I like the rotation of Bradshaw and Jacobs.
All I know is that Jones is not the answer for that spot in Dallas. He may do better for another team. I've never been really impressed with him.

Cleets
January 17th, 2008, 01:52 PM
To this day, I still wonder what problems/issues he had with McNabb and Garcia.

1) Garcia couldn't throw the ball down field 30 yards - when T.O. begins to separate from coverage...
2) McNabb said "We will win with or without T.O."

xwhistlex

zymergy
January 17th, 2008, 03:22 PM
All I know is that Jones is not the answer for that spot in Dallas. He may do better for another team. I've never been really impressed with him.

His job was to tun the ball early to allow Barber to be at full strength for the 2nd half and run over a tired defense. Starting him was a bad idea.

As far as Romo, it wasn't Romo that allowed the Giants to march down the field and tie the game in less than 2min before the half and let the Giants go into the locker room feeling good about their chances! To me that was the spark they needed to that should never have been lit.

813Jag
January 17th, 2008, 03:28 PM
His job was to tun the ball early to allow Barber to be at full strength for the 2nd half and run over a tired defense. Starting him was a bad idea.

As far as Romo, it wasn't Romo that allowed the Giants to march down the field and tie the game in less than 2min before the half and let the Giants go into the locker room feeling good about their chances! To me that was the spark they needed to that should never have been lit.
I agree with your last point, that touchdown at the end of the half and the drive that ended in the field goal really hurt the Cowboys. After that point the pressure that I was expecting finally came from the Giants. Once they hit Romo a couple of times it was over. They didn't have much opportunity to take advantage of the Giants' banged up secondary.

TheValleyRaider
January 17th, 2008, 06:33 PM
I don't remember seeing him carry that much of a load all season. I know on some drives he'd carry the ball the whole drive but as much as he did on Sunday. I think he's best at this stage of his career sharing the carries with more of a speed back. He's no where as big as Jacobs but I like the rotation of Bradshaw and Jacobs.
All I know is that Jones is not the answer for that spot in Dallas. He may do better for another team. I've never been really impressed with him.

The addition of Bradshaw to the backfield has been big for Jacobs, especially later in the season. Physical backs, for all their strengths, can wear themselves down pretty quickly, especially over the long season. Any kind of rest they get, or offensive carries that don't involve them taking 3-4 shots from defenders, is a good thing

Killtoppers90
January 18th, 2008, 11:36 AM
Part of the game last weekend that killed me (being the Dallas fan that I am) is how Romo didn't manage the game as well as he did in the 1st half. But hopefully that poise will come with time.

OB55
January 18th, 2008, 11:48 AM
Part of the game last weekend that killed me (being the Dallas fan that I am) is how Romo didn't manage the game as well as he did in the 1st half. But hopefully that poise will come with time.

They got heat on him in the second half, more so in the 4th quarter, made a bunch of difference. Mistakes that Tony did make was not tossing the ball out of bounds when he was chased outside the tackle box. Then he DID toss it out of bounds when in the pocket. These were his errors, and he should have done it the other way around.

Looks like as it stands, teams are going to bring heat on him next year, and see how he handles it. I'm sure the playoff atmosphere, and maybe a little bit of uncertainty left from last years playoff played a bit of a role in the Romo world.

TheValleyRaider
January 18th, 2008, 11:51 AM
Part of the game last weekend that killed me (being the Dallas fan that I am) is how Romo didn't manage the game as well as he did in the 1st half. But hopefully that poise will come with time.

I think some of that was the defensive pressure he was starting to see, especially in the 4th Quarter. As paradoxical as it sounds, he may not have benefitted from having a great offensive line most of the season in this instance. To their credit, the Cowboys did a great job keeping consistent pressure off of Romo this year, especially against the Giants. Suddenly faced with that kind of pressure (physical, dirty if you ask Rodney Harrison xrolleyesx), Romo, who is still a relatively inexperienced QB, didn't know how to properly handle the pressure. That'll come with time, I would think xtwocentsx

813Jag
January 18th, 2008, 12:00 PM
I think some of that was the defensive pressure he was starting to see, especially in the 4th Quarter. As paradoxical as it sounds, he may not have benefitted from having a great offensive line most of the season in this instance. To their credit, the Cowboys did a great job keeping consistent pressure off of Romo this year, especially against the Giants. Suddenly faced with that kind of pressure (physical, dirty if you ask Rodney Harrison xrolleyesx), Romo, who is still a relatively inexperienced QB, didn't know how to properly handle the pressure. That'll come with time, I would think xtwocentsx
This was a learning expirence for Romo that's for sure.

Killtoppers90
January 18th, 2008, 03:29 PM
I think some of that was the defensive pressure he was starting to see, especially in the 4th Quarter. As paradoxical as it sounds, he may not have benefitted from having a great offensive line most of the season in this instance. To their credit, the Cowboys did a great job keeping consistent pressure off of Romo this year, especially against the Giants. Suddenly faced with that kind of pressure (physical, dirty if you ask Rodney Harrison xrolleyesx), Romo, who is still a relatively inexperienced QB, didn't know how to properly handle the pressure. That'll come with time, I would think xtwocentsx

No arguement here on that point at all!