NDSU at Colorado Game Thread - August 29, 2024 8 PM EDT on ESPN

[bonarae]

While this may be too early to start a game thread for Week 1, to help me bring our NDSU regulars back to this forum, I am starting this game thread for you guys.

So... while NDSU may be the surprise team that was somewhat not expected to go deep in the playoffs last season, Colorado is rebuilding as it is adjusting to life in a conference they once ran from (Big XII), only to return there after the Pac-12 was dissolved.

Do you think NDSU will scalp the Buffs and humiliate Deion and company on national TV? Or will Colorado turn around and send NDSU back to earth?

[Professor Chaos]

No idea really but I'm cautiously optimistic. Colorado will have something like 50 new players again, mainly transfers, and has apparently prioritized rebuilding their awful O-line but will it actually work? NDSU should have an elite pass rush for the FCS level with their depth along the D-line so if they can get consistent pressure on Shedeur Sanders it could be the same playbook to beat Colorado that teams used consistently throughout the final 2 months of the 2023 season. If Colorado can protect Shedeur I don't think NDSU's back 7 will hold up and he'll probably shred them up pretty good.

Offensively for NDSU I'm very curious to see how new HC Tim Polasek (who has a background on the offensive side of the ball) and OC Jake Landry tweak the offense. NDSU's offense was pretty dominant last year leading the nation (or finishing a close 2nd to SDSU) in passing efficiency and averaging nearly 6 yards per carry but they've kind of strayed from the under center power run game that was their hallmark throughout the 2010s. They've got 2 fantastic QBs to keep defenses off balance in Cam Miller (the better passer but still a decent dual threat) and Cole Payton (the running specialist who I think can really surprise people if they let him throw it more). I think they'll move the ball against Colorado and might even be able to gash them with a good scheme/game plan that's well executed.

Just in terms of overall program mentality these two could not be further apart from each other on the spectrum. Colorado had the headliner skill players in Shedeur Sanders and Travis Hunter (who Coach Prime says are both going in the top 4 of the NFL draft next spring) whereas NDSU's program is built on the lines. It's further exemplified by their head coaches. Deion Sanders was a superstar player at Florida St and then in the NFL who has his own "brand" - he walked into his first college job as a head coach and 3+ years later was leading a P4 program. Tim Polasek played D3 ball in Wisconsin, never played professionally, and took his first job in D1 coaching about 20 years as a grad assistant at NDSU - I've heard he even slept in the Fargodome coach's offices for a short time after doing that since he was so short on cash when he first got to Fargo. Now after 20 years of climbing the ladder he's getting his first shot as a head coach.

My head is still making up it's mind about how this game will go - my heart says the Bison win by 10 and the nation goes bonkers for it as there are a lot of people out there rooting for Coach Prime to fail at Colorado.

[uofmman1122]

I just think it's a matter of time until Colorado is a very, very good P5 team.

If they get there this season, it'll probably be a big CU win. If it's not until next season, then NDSU certainly has a chance.

[Professor Chaos]

I just think it's a matter of time until Colorado is a very, very good P5 team.

If they get there this season, it'll probably be a big CU win. If it's not until next season, then NDSU certainly has a chance.
We'll see - there's no doubt that Coach Prime can recruit talent but I don't think he's shown yet that he can mold that talent into a true team that can handle adversity. His two non-COVID years at Jackson St they ran roughshod over Charmin soft schedules before being upset by middling MEAC teams in the Celebration Bowl then last year his team fell off a cliff after the first month (and they could've easily finished worse than 4-8).

[POD Knows]

CU wins in a shootout. Too many skilled guys on O and NDSU is gonna be suspect on the backend on D.

[uofmman1122]

We'll see - there's no doubt that Coach Prime can recruit talent but I don't think he's shown yet that he can mold that talent into a true team that can handle adversity. His two non-COVID years at Jackson St they ran roughshod over Charmin soft schedules before being upset by middling MEAC teams in the Celebration Bowl then last year his team fell off a cliff after the first month (and they could've easily finished worse than 4-8).
I'm not saying he's going to win the CFP, but I think he'll pretty quickly build the kind of team that will demolish NDSU or any other FCS team.

[Gil Dobie]

With all this transfer shenanigans in today's college football, I have no idea what to expect. Just cheer for the Bison and hope for the best.

[caribbeanhen]

Bison > Buffalos

[dewey]

With all this transfer shenanigans in today's college football, I have no idea what to expect. Just cheer for the Bison and hope for the best.

100% agreed.

Dewey

[caribbeanhen]

CU wins in a shootout. Too many skilled guys on O and NDSU is gonna be suspect on the backend on D.

no #bookit ?

Go Bison

[FUBeAR]

There is some trouble in PrimeParadise that could impact this game…
https://twitter.com/on3sports/status/1794103380983312543

[POD Knows]

There is some trouble in PrimeParadise that could impact this game…
https://twitter.com/on3sports/status/1794103380983312543
I read a couple other articles on this, the plaintiff won a default judgement of 12m, Sanders failed to appear at the hearings. The incident happened when Sanders was 15. I don’t know how this works but wouldn’t his parent also be liable for this as it happened when their son was a minor? Got any arm chair lawyers out there. Also, is it that simple to get a civil financial judgement discharged via a bankruptcy? Is that type of judgement treated just like an ordinary debt?

[bonarae]

Bumping this up. Do you think Deion is a primadonna here? Hope he'll get scalped... xprayx

https://www.si.com/college-football/deion-sanders-sweating-colorado-north-dakota-state

[Professor Chaos]

I don't blame him for saying that and I bet, if he's being honest, Mike Gundy at Oklahoma St would say the same thing about their opener with SDSU. There's a reason why NDSU had had such a hard time getting FBS games and SDSU is pretty much in the same boat now. It's a lose/lose proposition for FBS, especially P5, teams. You win convincingly and that's what is expected so you get little to no credit, you win close and you face the critics wondering why you can't bulldoze a little 'ol FCS team, or you lose and people start burying your season after the first game since most fans and uninformed pundits don't realize you're playing the equivalent of a high level G5 team.

[caribbeanhen]

I don't blame him for saying that and I bet, if he's being honest, Mike Gundy at Oklahoma St would say the same thing about their opener with SDSU. There's a reason why NDSU had had such a hard time getting FBS games and SDSU is pretty much in the same boat now. It's a lose/lose proposition for FBS, especially P5, teams. You win convincingly and that's what is expected so you get little to no credit, you win close and you face the critics wondering why you can't bulldoze a little 'ol FCS team, or you lose and people start burying your season after the first game since most fans and uninformed pundits don't realize you're playing the equivalent of a high level G5 team.


All true except the part about The Bison and S Dak State being FCS teams …

[Outsider1]

I would think that NDSU actually has a fair shot in this one. They are at least going to give Colorado a run for their money. My bet is that Colorado will be making a lot of mistakes in this game. Can NDSU capitalize, stay disciplined and strong?

[MSUBobcat]

I read a couple other articles on this, the plaintiff won a default judgement of 12m, Sanders failed to appear at the hearings. The incident happened when Sanders was 15. I don’t know how this works but wouldn’t his parent also be liable for this as it happened when their son was a minor? Got any arm chair lawyers out there. Also, is it that simple to get a civil financial judgement discharged via a bankruptcy? Is that type of judgement treated just like an ordinary debt?

Arm chair lawyer who has done cursory research reporting for duty xsalutex... Houston personal injury lawyer Brian White's website says (https://attorneybrianwhite.com/houston-personal-injury-resources/vicarious-liability/#:~:text=Under%20the%20latter%20circumstance%2C%20 Texas,court%20costs%20and%20attorneys'%20fees.), "Texas hasn't enacted a statute imposing vicarious liability on the parents of a child whose misconduct causes a personal injury. Texas common law could still hold a parent responsible for a personal injury committed by their child if the parents themselves failed to exercise their duty to discipline and control the child. Liability is especially likely if the child already had known propensities towards violence, negligence or other forms of dangerous irresponsibility."

Dallas-area's Leinart Law Firm says (https://www.leinartlaw.com/resources/bankruptcy-on-a-judgement/), "Creditors can ask the bankruptcy court to make a dischargeable debt (i.e. a civil judgement) become nondischargeable by filing an adversary proceeding. The types of dischargeable debts that can trigger an adversary proceeding are: Fraud used to get money on goods and services, an injury caused by malicious acts...."

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[POD Knows]

Arm chair lawyer who has done cursory research reporting for duty xsalutex... Houston personal injury lawyer Brian White's website says (https://attorneybrianwhite.com/houston-personal-injury-resources/vicarious-liability/#:~:text=Under%20the%20latter%20circumstance%2C%20 Texas,court%20costs%20and%20attorneys'%20fees.), "Texas hasn't enacted a statute imposing vicarious liability on the parents of a child whose misconduct causes a personal injury. Texas common law could still hold a parent responsible for a personal injury committed by their child if the parents themselves failed to exercise their duty to discipline and control the child. Liability is especially likely if the child already had known propensities towards violence, negligence or other forms of dangerous irresponsibility."

Dallas-area's Leinart Law Firm says (https://www.leinartlaw.com/resources/bankruptcy-on-a-judgement/), "Creditors can ask the bankruptcy court to make a dischargeable debt (i.e. a civil judgement) become nondischargeable by filing an adversary proceeding. The types of dischargeable debts that can trigger an adversary proceeding are: Fraud used to get money on goods and services, an injury caused by malicious acts...."

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[taper]

All true except the part about The Bison and S Dak State being FCS teams …
We have the same 63 schollies*, same recruiting rules, same etc, as every other FCS team. We're FCS, and there's absolutely nothing unique about us. We just chose to do what it takes to be successful.
*aside from those pretending to be D1.

[caribbeanhen]

We have the same 63 schollies*, same recruiting rules, same etc, as every other FCS team. We're FCS, and there's absolutely nothing unique about us. We just chose to do what it takes to be successful.
*aside from those pretending to be D1.

What makes you unique is sheer dominance. Both teams combined reign of terror over the rest of FCS is deeply ingrained

FBS teams are not without fear as many have stated, none of em want to play you

Steam roll Deion Sanders and Colorado