Rebirth of California football?

[jajfitz]

Any legitimate chance one of the California schools that dropped football (CSU-LB, CSU-Fullerton, CSU-Northridge, Pacific) brings it back in the next 5-7 years? Any chance one of the other schools like UC-Irvine, UC-SD starts football. Or brings it back after a loooooooong hiatus?

[Laker]

California doesn't have the money to restart football. They are spending their money on other things of lesser importance.

[bonarae]

Sadly, the golden era of football in California has passed on long before the current players and NFL stars were even born. xsighx xsmhx

The remaining football holdovers are struggling to keep the talent in the state... :(

[WestCoastAggie]

It's not coming back.

[ElCid]

It's not coming back.

One wonders how long before it's dropped at more public colleges in CA, not to mention at the high school level? It is going to happen.

[NY Crusader 2010]

I don't think a DI CA school has added football during my lifetime. UC Davis moved up from DII in the early 2000's but that's about it.

From what I've heard, California does have a decent "Friday Night Lights" culture so hopefully the HS game is safe there for now. When I think of top-notch HS football, I think of Texas, Florida, Alabama, Tidewater region of VA and California. New Jersey and Ohio get honorable mentions.

[WestCoastAggie]

I don't think a DI CA school has added football during my lifetime. UC Davis moved up from DII in the early 2000's but that's about it.

From what I've heard, California does have a decent "Friday Night Lights" culture so hopefully the HS game is safe there for now. When I think of top-notch HS football, I think of Texas, Florida, Alabama, Tidewater region of VA and California. New Jersey and Ohio get honorable mentions.

It's not what it's been. Talent in the HS ranks have left CA, especially LA. Outside of the top schools in the open division of the Southern Section, the talent levels fall off a cliff. 20 years ago, we we were right there with Florida and Texas. Now, we're behind Georgia, Alabama, and the 757.

But St John Bosco and Mater Dei are still top notch. But the publics, especially within LAUSD? Nope. Days long past.

[JacksFan40]

Football just isn’t as big in California anymore, especially compared to the Southeast. We’ll see more schools drop football before anyone adds it.

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

Any legitimate chance one of the California schools that dropped football (CSU-LB, CSU-Fullerton, CSU-Northridge, Pacific) brings it back in the next 5-7 years? Any chance one of the other schools like UC-Irvine, UC-SD starts football. Or brings it back after a loooooooong hiatus?

xlolx

Not unless you start a campaign saying it is racist not to have football!

Football is dying in California and not deemed as important.

[clenz]

Honest questions - especially since we have the "least subsidized thread" running

1. Where is the interest for these programs going to come from? Sure some of those schools have large enrollments but football has been gone for decades - if ever existing. Football isn't part of the university idenity. The students there aren't going to be engaged in it. The larger majority of the alumni base has no connect and interest in it. Donors will be hard to find.
2. Where is the start up cost going to come from? The start up cost is going to dwarf the yearly budget, which likely makes it a no-go fom the start even if it's wanted. The logistics cost. Finding a facility, a right sized facility, making upgrades to the facility. Getting practice space found, and built. the search costs to build an entire coaching/training/support staff. Equipment costs - mind you this isn't upkeeping equipment and replacing pieces. It's funding an entirely new set up equipment from scratch up front. All of that side of it
3. Where are the fans going to come from? See point 1, but as already covered, California doesn't really show up for football at any level. The 49ers, Chargers, and Rams all struggle massively. Many times the Rams and Chargers are outnumbered by opposing fans in their own stadium. USC, UCLA, Cal-Berkley, Stanford, etc. are all at the highest levels of college football with long histories of success and they don't draw ****. At the G5 level you have San Diego State and Fresno that are also fairly good programs with recent bigger successes, and they don't draw. SDSU just moved into a slightly larger than FCS stadium. If those teams are drawing like that how is UC San Diego, UC Riverside, Long Beach State, etc. going to draw enough fans, endorsements, tickets, etc. to survive without 90% of the funding coming from the school/state. We sure as **** know that isn't happening.

Sure it's easy to go "California woke liberal blm anti-american sissy losers" or whatever else but the reality is football is a gigantic money suck at 90% of schools that have it regardless of location and how long they've had it. Adding it at schools like that - or the vast majority - is, at best, a losing proposition and mostly likely financially irresponsible even at most that do it.

Look at attendance across the FCS. There are like 10 teams that actually draw. Why would a school go "we want to add tens of millions to our budgets to have 3000 people at a football game on a good day"

[POD Knows]

Honest questions - especially since we have the "least subsidized thread" running

1. Where is the interest for these programs going to come from? Sure some of those schools have large enrollments but football has been gone for decades - if ever existing. Football isn't part of the university idenity. The students there aren't going to be engaged in it. The larger majority of the alumni base has no connect and interest in it. Donors will be hard to find.
2. Where is the start up cost going to come from? The start up cost is going to dwarf the yearly budget, which likely makes it a no-go fom the start even if it's wanted. The logistics cost. Finding a facility, a right sized facility, making upgrades to the facility. Getting practice space found, and built. the search costs to build an entire coaching/training/support staff. Equipment costs - mind you this isn't upkeeping equipment and replacing pieces. It's funding an entirely new set up equipment from scratch up front. All of that side of it
3. Where are the fans going to come from? See point 1, but as already covered, California doesn't really show up for football at any level. The 49ers, Chargers, and Rams all struggle massively. Many times the Rams and Chargers are outnumbered by opposing fans in their own stadium. USC, UCLA, Cal-Berkley, Stanford, etc. are all at the highest levels of college football with long histories of success and they don't draw ****. At the G5 level you have San Diego State and Fresno that are also fairly good programs with recent bigger successes, and they don't draw. SDSU just moved into a slightly larger than FCS stadium. If those teams are drawing like that how is UC San Diego, UC Riverside, Long Beach State, etc. going to draw enough fans, endorsements, tickets, etc. to survive without 90% of the funding coming from the school/state. We sure as **** know that isn't happening.

Sure it's easy to go "California woke liberal blm anti-american sissy losers" or whatever else but the reality is football is a gigantic money suck at 90% of schools that have it regardless of location and how long they've had it. Adding it at schools like that - or the vast majority - is, at best, a losing proposition and mostly likely financially irresponsible even at most that do it.

Look at attendance across the FCS. There are like 10 teams that actually draw. Why would a school go "we want to add tens of millions to our budgets to have 3000 people at a football game on a good day"
Racial demographics are key in CA, the largest Hispanic and Asian populations in the country, just not into football. White and AA populations in CA are under 40%, they are the critical fanbase for football. Also, CA is full of pussies and tree huggers and football triggers them badly. :D

[caribbeanhen]

The Portal will ensure college football sees no growth in fanbases going forward.

Roster churn is a already getting old

If you followed recruiting, and you signed a stud, you could look forward to watching that player for four years or so. Not anymore.

the diehards will still follow while we’re still here, but good luck growing your FCS fan base from this point on

[Go Green]

Also, CA is full of [w]ussies and tree huggers and football triggers them badly. :D

Most of the people you describe are in Northern California.

Southern California is different.